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Even if they want to say Edelgard joined the slithers five minutes after Duscur. She and Jeritza still helped them hurt Dimitris family and friends. Well the ones who truly hurt Edelgard was the slithers. Lysithea makes that clear. Which is more consistent with the game then Edelgards baseless claim in her c+ support Ferdinands dad did it. Which has zero to do with the nabteans and the church.
I mean IMO it doesn’t really matter when Edelgard started working with TWSITD (though it’s heavily implied that it was before Duscur) because she still knows what happened, knows it was done for her benefit, and then chooses to reap the rewards of the slaughter of Dimitri’s family and the Duscur people instead of calling the alliance off.
Like, she’s still happily benefiting off of it even if she outwardly says she doesn’t approve of it, which at best makes her a massive hypocrite.
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It seems to me the Abyss library was made to try to make CF consistent with the other three routes. But then they “forgot” what Edelgard accused the church of and accidentally said the Slithers did it. Am I crazy? And people say Fates world building was bad. Oh my beautiful popes hips.
They also forgot what they already put in the damn game.
"Um, um say she banned autopsies" - Manuela performs an autopsy in the fucking game, and has human anatomical structures in her office.
"oh and the printing press, she banned that" - books are all over the place, Hilda isn't punished for losing or misplacing what should be valuable items if they aren't able to be mass produced and Seteth and multiple endings becomes a children's book author. Not to mention Edelgard's own manifesto.
Like I don't like insulting creators especially not ones working for a company like Nintendo because they'll be under super ridiculous amounts of stress... But I'm sorry there are no excuses for this.
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Not only does the crest system not actually matter to the empire. It abandoned Mercedes who had a crest. An hasn’t had a church in over 100 years. The empires world building is very awful. Edelgard wasn’t even anywhere near in line for the throne? When most of her siblings didn’t have crests.
I don’t know about the line of succession, but funny to note how the book about imperial lines in the library notes how the Hresvelg line is the ruling one because it can claim descent from wilhelm and seiros (i don’t think it’s biologically accurate, maybe it was a way to explain the crests) meaning that some other peons can only descend from wilhelm but can’t be tied to seiros, so they have no claims on the imperial line? Like they were children Wilhelm had before receiving Rhea’s blood, so they will never be able to manifest a crest? (maybe there are bajillions of lesser Hresvelg branches still around?)
If you come from the main branch and you don’t have a crest, what is going to happen to you? You’ll get to rule over a minor castle/domain in the Hresvelg region? Or even if you had a crest but you’re not the imperial heir, what are you going to become?
I’ve seen a regular bad take recently about the issue (well roundly about)
Crest society didn’t brought the various Agarthan science projects or the process of Lysithea’ing randoms. If it is possible to give crests to randoms, then Hanneman becomes pointless.
As you pointed out, Mercedes was kicked away even if she had a crest, just like her mom, and Constance with her crest of “macuil” was sent to the abyss... Lysithea had an existing crest, the Ordelias are a crested family, but it didn’t protect them at all.
The so-called crest system doesn’t protect you from being shipped to the abyss or prevent you from running away from you country or protect you from being a nobody when your husband kicks the bucket... And it doesn’t protect you at all from being “punished” by a foreign country, or whatever happened with the Ordelia family in the Alliance, receiving flak and mole people from the Empire!
Maybe it used to be a thing, even if Vestra, Bergliez, Ochs’n’co being important nobles suggest it wasn’t, or became a thing but then stopped, idk.
I really want to have some world-building about the Empire, but as you pointed out, canon gives us something awful. Which is a shame.

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In chapter 18 of cf is there any mentions of citizens by anyone in Japanese? Because Ashe and Annette would have been super ooc if there was.
The conversation with Edelgard and Hubert at the start of the battle goes as follows:
エーデルガルト: レア! そしてセイロス教団よ! これ以上の争いは無意味でしょう!▼ 王なき国の都に籠もり、 貴方たちは何をしようと言うの!?▼ ……一度だけ、機会をあげるわ。▼ 武器を捨て、降伏しなさい! 貴方たちと違って、私は虐殺などしない!▼
Edelgard: Rhea! And you Members of the Church! You should see that further fighting is meaningless! ▼ What would you say is accomplished by shutting yourself inside the capital of a kingdom without a king!? ▼ ... I will give you just one chance. ▼ Cast aside your weapons and surrender! Unlike you, I have no desire to perform any sort of massacre! ▼
ヒューベルト:……反応はありませんな。 攻撃を始めますか?▼
Hubert: ... There appears to be no response. Shall we proceed with the attack?
エーデルガルト: 少しだけ、待つわ。 市街には多くの住民がいるのよ。▼ 5年前にガルグ=マクを攻めた時と違って、 教団は住民を避難させようともしない。▼ いったい何を企んでいるの……▼ Edelgard: I will wait for a bit. There are numerous citizens in the capital. Unlike when I attacked Garreg Mach 5 years ago, the church is not evacuating the residents. Just what are they planning... ?
Which is followed by this conversation between Rhea and Catherine:
カトリーヌ: レア様。いや、セイロス様。 帝国軍は降伏を呼びかけてます。▼ 本当に無視していいんですか?▼ 例えば、アタシたちがフォドラを 出ていくとかで、解決を図れませんか?▼
Catherine: Lady Rhea. No, Lady Seiros. The Imperial Army is calling for us to surrender. ▼ Is it really wise to ignore them? ▼ For instance, couldn’t we attempt to negotiate our departure from Fodlán? ▼
レア: 降伏はなりません。 私たちは負けてはいない。▼ あのような邪悪な者たちに、 天が裂けようとも屈してはならないのです。▼
Rhea: We must not surrender. There will be no defeat for us. ▼ To bring down the wicked ones, we must split apart even the heavens ▼ .
カトリーヌ:……わかりました。 アタシは、あなたの言葉に従いますよ。▼ 何があろうと、この命が尽きるまでね。▼
Catherine: .... Understood. I will obey your commands. ▼ No matter what happens, even if I have to give my life. ▼
ツィリル: ボクも、お供します。 最後まで……どこまでも……。
Cyril: I will stand with you as well. Until the end... no matter how long.
レア:……それでは、カトリーヌ。 市街に火を放ちなさい。▼ 攻め入る帝国軍を、 煉獄の炎で焼き尽くすのです。▼
Rhea: ... Well then, Catherine. Set fire to the capital. ▼ We shall burn the invading soldiers in the fires of purgatory. ▼
カトリーヌ:……っ!? それはっ……!▼ Catherine: ... huh!? But that’s-....! ▼
レア: カトリーヌ。▼
Rhea: Catherine. ▼
カトリーヌ: 承知……しました……。 勝つため、ですよね?▼
Catherine: I... understand... For the sake of victory, correct? ▼
レア: 愚かな問いは不要です。 いかな犠牲も払わねばなりません。▼ 私からすべてを奪っていくあの背教者を…… この手で踏み潰してくれましょう。▼ Rhea: No need for such foolish questions. The coming sacrifices have to be made. ▼ The apostate who stole everything from me... I will crush them myself. ▼
So it does sound like there are. The wording is pretty close to English here.
Would it shock you if I told you I seen attacking Rhea and the other countries was self defense excuse used like 20 times? Because crest and church bad. But no one stops to think Rhea helping Wilhelm form a army to fight the people actually trying to destroy her whole race is self defense. Or the fact the Nabateans where always in a high religious positions as the church already existed. Also Edelgard never actually tried talking to anyone before secretly trying to destroy the Kingdom ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No, it wouldn’t surprise me. It goes back to what I said before about people downplaying objective forms of violence while calling certain things violence (different cultures, speech, etc) when they objectively aren’t.
So it’s supposedly “self-defense” to conquer Fodlan because Edelgard doesn’t like the culture.
How is AM the more tradition FE route? There is no “mad king” or shadow dragon that is CF. Heck the gharef isn’t in a mage class in AM?
I’m probably not the best person to ask, but I think it’s more the whole “King loses his homeland to evil Empire and has to fight to win it back” setup than anything else.