Sayid ship tierlist! We'll start off with Sayid canon ships!
Shannon/Sayid!
Shannon died too soon and she didnt get enough character development for me to believe these two could ever work as a couple off the island. It woulda been interesting to see the writers make it work... because they come from such wildly different worlds and are such wildly different people it woulda been interesting.
BUT THEY FUCKING KILLED HER TOO SOON.
We didnt really get a chance to see Shannon do things for Sayid the way Sayid would do for Shannon which I think the other top tier het ships managed to do! Jin/Sun, Des/Penny, even fuckin Richard/his dead wife... and they only got the one REALLY GOOD EPISODE HOLY SHIT THAT SCENE WITH HUGO WAS SO HEARTBREAKINGLY TRAGIC AND BEAUTIFUL HOLY SHIT LOST WRITERS WHERE WAS THAT ENERGY WITH ANYTHING KATE DID...
Pros- Pretty cute. The juxtaposition of this kind of spoiled brat LA bitch and ... however you wanna try to describe the sheer hell of Sayids life trying make it work... coulda been interesting.
Cons- That same juxtaposition tbh. I just cant see Shannon staying long after she maybe tries shaking Sayid while hes sleeping and he wakes up in a violent panic and grabs her like he did with Jack or his brother...
I dont see her being able to handle him at his worst, the ptsd, all that trauma and violence he's lived through? and the writers never tried to show that aspect... it was just Sayid doing stuff for her. Which was cute... but....
6/10. The faults of this ship is 100% the writers fault for killing Shannon too soon. I dont actually mind that they ended up together in the end... even if it felt kinda weird.
I think Nadia is a better match for what they put out. She's essentially his Penny throughout the story (even had a 'another life' thing like Des). Nadia also shares a lot of the tragedy and trauma Sayid has been through and knew him, knew his flaws, why he did what he did, and still loved him so much. The flashsideways scene where she asks him why he didnt love her and he said he did but he didnt deserve her was crazy. Even in that weird fantasy world Sayid could never accept himself or accept someone might love him. Whyd the writers do that... Thats so sad...
ANYWAYS.
Nadia was great. Im sad they only got like half a year in real time to be married before THE WRITERS FUCKING KILLED HER OFF TOO WTF....
Pros- They have a shared life history and did work in real time. They had some great scenes together and I love them. I also love that she was one to beg him NOT to do something violent after his brothers attack. So many people ask him to do some violent shit. From Innman with torturing his former CO to fucking SHANNON with asking him to kill Locke. And he listened to all of them (sorta... he almost killed Locke but didnt and she got mad at him for it)... so for Nadia he went back home, picked up the kids, fixed a vase... It was nice. He did kill people, inadvertently cause the death of his friend, and shot himself for her but she never asked him for that shes always asked him to stay with her.
Cons- Because she wasnt on the island she didnt get a lot of screentime and tHE WRITERS FUCKING KILLED HER OFF SO BRUTALLY WTF.
I mean I GUESS you can call this canon. And the SPICE of it... Two assassins working for opposing forces honeypotting each other... but Sayid accidentally cares for her because despite all of the conditioning toward violence from his abusive father to the military to the hitman stuff... hes still a soft boy with a big heart who just loves too hard. Then they shot each other and he won. And he hated it. Whyd the writers do this to him....
Pros- THE JUICE. One of the juiciest. Honestly I coulda watched a couple episodes of them building their relationship before she shoots him. Id have been SHOOK. Despite my instincts to have everyone be in love with my fav... the fact she pretended to love him, clearly pounded him out real well, and then shot him and complained about NOT killing him to her boss (probably Widmore) MADE IT JUICY AND TRAGIC.
Elsa: Oh Sayid, If only there was someone out there that loved you.
Cons- Bitch is a dead. Also she only got the one episode.. Cant help but stan tho.
5/10 just because I cant in good conscious give them a bigger score than Shannon/Sayid. BUT JUICE!!!
I mean... theres not much here. Sayid got a little tipsy and was looking for someone to kiss him and once again got betrayed because IDK the writers just like to make Sayid sad?
Pros- Ilana COULD have been interesting if the writers didnt just BLOW HER THE FUCK UP FOR NO REASON.
2/10. Not much here except theyre both hot and with those boots she had on... you know she woulda been a fun domme but she plays too much (worked for Jacob who did nothing for her and then blew up outta nowhere).
I MEAN... THE TICKET really. Their relationship was one of the best. They clicked up like IMMEDIATELY. The only thing wrong with them is the writers always making Kate run to Sawyer even though he treated Sayid like shit (or Jack which was mostly fine but the lack of chemistry). Like writers you are not making me believe Kate isnt a girls girl. Im sorry. Youre not. Im ignoring it. I honestly wish that Kate was like 'Come on Sayid' and Sayid hopped in her car after Jack and Ben were trying to get them back to the island. WHY NOT? Youre telling me that that wouldnt have happened writers? I DONT BELIEVE IT.
THAT SAID... I also kinda wish Kate was a lesbian and hooked up with Claire or Cassidy.
Pros- I mean... lookit the material. (disregard all the awful writers choices with Kate thats not her fault.)
Cons- The one she was pulling with the fake necklaces (how she met Cassidy and then they got gay married probably(?)
9/10! QPP!? ANYONE?? Or they get married. Either way. GOD TIER.
I mean... MY FAVORITE HET SHIP WITH SAYID... even if that just had that one episode where she tortured and pet his face a lot... I woulda been cool but the fact she ended up helping them out more because she trusted Sayid was so nice. I also love the episode where she kidnapped Aaron and when she returned him saying she just wanted her daughter back and handed the baby to him while Sayid looked like he was gonna cry for her. WEH.
Their last interaction being Danielle holding Sayid at gunpoint was dumb. I know Sayid would never hold that against her just like he would never hold anything Hugo did against him is pretty great tho.
Pros- Again... lookit the material! Thats a couple of damaged stray/feral cats cuddling for warmth energy.
Cons- They just stopped interacting after that one scene and then the writers fucking killed Danielle off in the dumbest way ever. THIS IS THE WRITERS FAULT.
Honestly kinda another wasted dynamic that just stops interacting after awhile and then one of them dies. For the time they did interact... it was pretty great. They have a kind of Usopp/Zoro feel to them that I appreciate. Charlie seemed to put a lot of trust in Sayid even after his weird face/heel turn that sucked.
Pros- Theyre kinda goofy together... I enjoy it.
Cons- Charlie got kinda weird then got redemption=death'd. So...
5/10. I cant rate it higher than Shannon/Sayid but they were fun in a similar juxtaposition kinda way!
Its hard to ship these two because of SAWYERS FUCKIN VIOLENT RACISM. I will give it Sawyer tho in the Dharma camp he changed, he tried desperately to save Sayid, he had a HARD HARD time watching Sayid go through what he went through and there were times where Sawyer and Sayid clicked up which honestly was such bad vibes... like if Sawyer is going to Sayid for back up you know theres some crazy shit happening. And it did happen a few times.
I think its a missed opportunity that they never really worked through their animosity and reached a real understanding with each other. Theyve been through some similar shit and think if they talked it out they coulda been a solid unit.
But also the flashsideways having Sawyer be a cop that arrests Sayid for essentially protecting his family is crazy... Of course Sawyer was a fuckin cop.
Pros- ... There is a lot of drama & trauma to work with??
Cons- Racism, torture, just RANCID VIBES. I think one of the worst things is Sawyer saying 'Oh I bet you wanna torture me, show how CIVILIZED you really are' or something like that after he stole the guns...
Like hey cunt he tortured you because you were hoarding resources, beat the shit out of Boone for looking through those resources to find his sisters inhalers, implied you knew where the inhalers were while she was having an asthma attack and refused to tell anyone but Kate and then said youd only tell Kate about them if she kissed you which SHE DID NOT WANT TO DO BUT WAS FORCED TO and then said 'I dont know where they are' effectively WASTING EVERYONES TIME WHILE SHANNON WAS GASPING FOR BREATH.
YOU CANT TALK ABOUT CIVILITY YOU FUCKING ANIMAL.
SAYID SHOULD STICK MORE BAMBOO UNDER YOUR FINGERNAILS ACTUALLY...
or I would say that but Sayid felt so guilty about torturing him and accidentally stabbing him in the arm he banished himself and then later when Anna Lucia tied him too a tree and was contemplating killing him he said he deserved it because what he did to Sawyer...
SAWYER DOES GET BETTER KINDA... π¬LMAO I think fanfiction writers could do a better job writing these guys than the canon writers BUT AS IT IS...
2(?)/10... GIRL. SO RANCID. But man when they worked together it sure was interesting.
TIME TO CLEANSE!!! The fact they first bond over Sawyer being shitty to them is phenomenal. The biggest self-hating pessimist vs the most loving, most extreme optimist is beautiful stuff. Nothing reaches the heights of Sayids aggressive dedication to protecting Hurley physically and Hurleys dedication to healing Sayid emotionally. THE PURITY OF THEM.
Pros- Everything I just said. There was so much love there it was crazy.
Cons- Hurley is probably one of the straightest characters in the show LMFAO a man who says dude and gets a little uncomfortable with sincere emotional moments like when Charlie said he loved him and he was like... yeah w/e dude I love you too. GOOFY STRAIGHT BOY NONSENSE.
10/10! THE VIBES ARE IMMACULATE. I HOPE THEY GET GAY MARRIED. SUE ME.
I already went off on them... so just to recap. Sayid is Jacks special lil guy who can do no wrong.
Pros- Sayid was Jacks right hand man and anyone who knows me knows my position on boss/right hand man ships. TOP TIER. MY FAVORITE FLAVOR.
Cons- That one time Jack was with the Dharma people and then took Juliet back with them and didnt tell anyone what was going on and just generally acting sus which made everyone not trust him even Sayid...
Literally what was the point of that? At LEAST tell Sayid. Sayid is so damn paranoid if you could get him on board with one of the 'Others' everyone else would have probably just been like 'Ok. I mean if SAYID is cool with it...' Except maybe Sawyer... but maybe even Sawyer cuz he know EXACTLY how Sayid can be.
Imma put that on the writers. It was so dumb.
10/10. Why they always lookin in each others eyes like that. Just kiss each other gaybos.
Their relationship on the freighter was crazy. Desmond forgetting Sayid but then being like 'I dont know you but you seem to know me so if were friends can you help me?' or w/e and like... They werent really friends? But Sayid helped him so hard anyways and then Desmond looked at him like he hung the moon from then on out.
Even though Sayids reaction to Desmond lookin at him like that was always sheer confusion. Sayid doesnt know what love is and Desmond would like to show him.
Pros- Sayids dedication to saving Desmond despite not really knowing him, Desmond happily returning that energy in the end. Beautiful.
Cons- Des/Penny is sorta hard for me to shift in my mind... kinda like Jin/Sun...
9Β½/10. Stop lookin at Sayid like that youre freakin him out.
TIME TO DO THE OPPOSITE OF CLEANSE! If you mixed the toxicity of Sawyer/Sayid(minus the racism) with the JUICINESS of Elsa/Sayid... THE MOST TOXIC JUICE.
Man... Sayid deserved so much better. What I like about them is that they kinda have a more even playing field than when Ben is interacting with Jack or Locke. They keep each other on their toes and its endlessly funny the amount of times Sayid freaks Ben the fuck out... cuz Ben spent so much time being the little freak of the island. The best one was when Ben went to actually go save Sayid and he was like 'Sayid... come with me... theres still time' and Sayid (who had been infected) turns to him with a demented smile and said 'Not for me.' and Ben just backed away slowly then SKEDADDLED. It was so fucking funny.
They matched each others freak in the most twisted way. LMFAO
Cons- The fact their stories were so intertwined to the point they LITERALLY TURNED EACH OTHER INTO THE MONSTERS THEY BECAME but didnt interact in the flashsideways is crazy. What a missed opportunity. I woulda loved to see whole, kindhearted Mr. Linus interact with sad, tragic Sayid....
Im sorry but their dynamic was way better than Locke and Ben.
Locke/Sayid (& Fake!Locke/Sayid too)!
Locke fucked up so hard making an enemy outta Sayid so early. I think Sayid woulda eventually forgiven being hit (he pretty easily forgave Danielle & even Ana Lucia but maybe thats just apart of Sayid believing in women's rights and also their wrongs so Locke need not apply.) but the fact Locke lied to him and made him think Sawyer was the one who did it further fueling their animosity... I just dont think that was EVER forgiven. Even when they were working together Sayid just did not trust Locke at all. FOR GOOD REASON. Locke lied to him almost as much as fuckin Ben lies!
They woulda been a fuckin killer duo if Locke earned his trust instead tho.
Then to have MiB!Locke take control of Sayid and made him his dragon was just a fuckin cool idea... but it needed more time to work. (Same with Claire, that whole infection thing with them needed more in general.) But YEAH. Coulda been better but the lip-smacking FLAVOR is there.
Pros- Sayids lack of trust in Locke throughout the series due to Locke (technically well-intentioned) deceptions and zombie Sayid ending up as MiB!Lockes right hand man... theres some good shit to work with...
Cons- Didnt have enough time to cook tho IMO.
7/10 tho! BUT THE FLAVOR THO! Yeah I rated it higher than Shannon/Sayid! If youre gonna be canon ya have to be held to higher standard! THOSE ARE THE RULES. TECHNICALLY SHANNON/SAYID IS BETTER BUT EXECUTION... NOT SO MUCH. SUE ME.
----WILDCARD BITCHES!----
The fact they did not interact is crazy. Sayid wiped out so many of his people first under Ben and then under MiB!Locke and they didnt ever get to interact? Thats crazy.
TBF I dont think they coulda interacted without one of them dying and Sayid 'needed' to have his redemption=death moment and Ben 'needed' to kill Widmore. BUT LIKE... come on. NOT ONCE?
One of Widmores men accidentally (?) killed Sayids wife and Sayid went full JOHN WICKE and started ripping through his people like tissue paper and we didnt get ONE interaction. Thats crazy. Widmore gave Ben his most valuable chess piece!
Also Widmore was a dick to Desmond, Sayid dont take that lightly either.
Cons- IT COULDA BEEN JUICY.
