I think Pacat forgot Fence isnāt a Haikyu!! AU tbh
Like as the issues progress, Nick and Seiji have morphed more into the personalities and dynamic of Hinata and Kageyama. Not to mention the inaccurate structure of competitive fencing in American high schools that just so happens to be a match to competitive volley ball in Japanese schoolsā¦
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Me 5 years ago: Pacat has laid out all the groundwork for an amazing storyāevery choice was made with intention which means each detail included in the comics will have great pay off andā
Me now: I honestly think every half decent thing about fence was a total coincidence that Pacat accidentally hit on for like two seconds lmao
Hereās the thing. We can assume that Williams knew about the one-reserve rule from the start, and yet she took on two reserves, knowing one would be cut. It's clear from her interactions with Nick and the way she talks about him that she's betting on him, but she kept Eugene as a safety net just in case Nick couldn't improve fast enough. She's using her students as pawns to win against her old rival rather than seeing them as people she's supporting in achieving great things.
The way she approached cutting Eugene was so insensitive and shitty that it feels fucking malicious. She chose to publically cut him from the team, and to make it worse, she started it off by saying she needed the best on the team, then immediately gave the slot to Nick. That is simply an unnecessary prelude--there is no reason she needed to 'justify' her choice by outright telling Eugene he's not good enough.
Yes, Nick fenced better at camp, and yes, Williams is justified in her decision. What she's not justified in is stringing Eugene along when she knew from the start he was deadweight only to publically kick him off the team right before they actually start the season. Her treatment of him was callous and--hopefully unintentionally--cruel.
my expectations were low because all i would be excited about is another volume but holy fuck like it kinda pissed me off because i adore fence and sad about how it's never going to reach its potential SO WHY EVEN HYPE UP A FAKE ANNOUNCEMENT
DUDE THATS WHAT IM SAYING like??? i clicked on that link thinking maYBE it had released early??? but it was literally just a repeat of an announcement from months ago?? that was hyped up for literally no reason?? either there is a huge lack of communication with Pacat and the person who usually runs his twitter (i know he has someone for that) and one or the other of them didn't realize (somehow???) that it had already been announced or this was queued months ago (can twitter do that?) and ran on autopilot. because literally what would the motivation be to do this intentionally?? It feels fucking malicious but tbh Pacat doesn't even care/think about Fence enough to be intentionally malicious lmfao
Sarah Rees Brennan's additions to the Fenceverse were peppered with classism, ableism, biphobia, and racism (what else can I call the erasure of Eugene's Filipino heritage?), but one aspect of it that's at once more subtle and more obvious is Coach Sally Williams's inappropriate behavior with her students, and I need to talk about it. Fence is marketed toward a young adult audience--kids who have teachers, maybe even teachers like Williams...and, hopefully, who know to report teachers like her to someone.
Let me make clear that my condemnation of Williams as a predator is only relating to the novels. In the comics, she's fantastic and badass and caring. In the novels, she takes it too far. There are several instances of her being what I'd call a shitty teacher throughout the novels, but there is a moment in Fence: Striking Distance where she sexually harasses three of her students. Can you think of when?
If you thought of the punishment she issued to Seiji, Nick, and Eugene for failing in a trust fall exercise, you would be correct! I want to be entirely clear here; there is no question of whether that was sexual harassment against her students. It was. Definitionally, it was. That's not up for debate. Let's get into why and fill in some context that makes the whole scene even more disturbing.
Williams issued a punishment to three of her students which involved them stripping. Asking students to undress is in itself sexual harassment (unless you're a chemistry teacher telling someone to get their ass in the 'i fucked up' shower but that's basically the only exception). It is inappropriate and unacceptable for a teacher to demand their student take off their shirt. Williams does. And then dresses them in raw steaks to send running around the woods. Their punishment isn't running. Their punishment is humiliation. And she's made it a sexual thing by disrobing them and dressing them so specifically and strangely. This isn't having them put on a little dunce cap and do jumping jacks kind of thing, this is a bizarre setup that, while not written as a fetish, can certainly be read that way. For whatever reason, Williams decided to have them wear raw steaks and the only real explanation is for her own pleasure--amusement, the characters and readers are supposed see. And the readers are meant to laugh along at this strange humiliation utilizing the partially naked bodies of minors.
Let's talk a little bit more about the raw steaks. The purpose of them seems to be humiliation, and if that's where Williams derives pleasure, perhaps my next points satisfy her goal intentionally. Either way, being made to strip and wear raw meat against their bare body is bound to be a massive trigger to people with sensory issues, body image issues, and eating disorders. The unique blending of unpleasant sensory, nakedness, and food would feel gross to anyone forced to abide by this punishment, but for people with pre-existing issues, it multiplies tenfold. And it is similarly disturbing in a new way to consider those who do not eat meat being forced to wear raw steaks around their necks. There are so many people for which this punishment would be even worse than you'd think at first glance, and it can absolutely be read as part of Williams's design. If you saw reports of Willimas in real life, wouldn't you assume this was intentional?
Another thing to note here is the needless escalation of the punishment to the crime. Eugene's meant to catch someone in a trust fall but turns to try and catch someone who's actually falling--Nick and Seiji being the reason and the faller in question. It is for this crime that they are punished. And, yeah, good time to talk about how your behavior can cause real harm to others (hell, it's a great metaphor for trying to learn in a rowdy classroom--reacting to the rowdiness/trying to calm it and sacrificing the thing you were doing to manage it), but an appropriate consequence would be an apology from each to Harvard. It was not a malicious or intentional attack and didn't warrant a punishment at all beyond natural consequence. Williams took this opportunity to enforce a major punishment that is entirely unrelated to the behavior nor is it beneficial to fencing the way running suicides is. Why change the terrain to the woods? And if you want to argue for the woods, I'll even give that to you. Why require bare chests and raw meat? Those conditions in no way add anything but humiliation. And, arguably, to Williams's pleasure.
I know it's 'not that deep' -- or rather, I know it wasn't meant to be. I know that this scene was not crafted with the intent to frame Williams in such an unsavory and upsetting light. I know that to assign intention behind the sexual harassment may seem presumptuous. But if this was happening in real life? Those intentions are almost guaranteed, even on a deep 'unknown' level to the teacher issuing such perverse and power-proving punishments. It doesn't matter if it wasn't written to be that deep, it has some seriously gross undertones.
Bottom line is that Williams used her power over children who were under her charge and protection to have them undress and endure the press of raw, bloody meat against them as they ran through the woods. That's not funny. That's sexual harassment.
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About your post about the bad autistic rep in the fence novels, can you tell me why itās bad? No problem if you donāt want to, I know itād take a lot of time and you shouldnāt have to educate other people
Hey friend! Iām always happy to talk about Fence, and honestly the only reason I didnāt expand more on this topic to begin with was because I was too low on energy/time and too high on frustration to actually collect my thoughts into a meaningful analysis. Which is why itās taken me so long to respond to this ask.
A little disclaimer: people donāt need permission to enjoy the content they enjoy, but I do ask that they listen to autistic people on matters of autistic representation. You donāt need to be a part of a minority to spot harmful representation, but it can be less obvious to non-autistic people why Seijiās autistic coding in the Fence novels is an ableist caricature of autistic people. Lastly, representation is a nebulous and many-layered thing, which Iāll speak more on in a moment, but itās true that while every autistic person Iāve spoken to on the matter of Seijiās depiction in the novels has been just as uncomfortable, upset, hurt, and angry as I am, there are sure to be those who feel seen by his characterization. Iām not saying theyāre wrong, but I do think thereās an element of personal projection thereāagain, thatās not bad at allābut itās worth considering, when looking at Sarah Rees Brennanās version of Seiji, if heās still Seiji Katayama or if heās a blank slate you can project onto. Because thereās a distinction there and I do think it matters. But the bottom line is that I cannot speak for all autistic people, nor am I trying to. Iām just trying to explain where Iām coming from with my hurt, both personally and more objectively in terms of how it is harmful to autistic people through perpetuating stereotypes.
Letās start with what is a stereotype? Why is it bad? If people relate to a stereotype, how can it be wrong or hurtful to have stereotypical representation? When discussing stereotypes, I always refer to the amazing words of Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and her description of the single story. I would highly recommend you watch her TEDtalk, as itās brilliantly, thoughtfully, and beautifully said. While the speech itself is geared toward culture, the concept of the single story also applies to various identities and disabilities really well.
Stereotypes come from similarities across a group of peopleāthere are almost always shared experiences among cultures and identities and disabilities. Shared experience is part of building that community, and it can be a really validating thing to see other people going through the same things you are. However, human beings are not homogenous; even with shared aspects of identity or being, there is not anything aside from the label/identity/disability itself that will be true of everyone in that group. Still, there is nothing bad about shared experience.
The issue comes into play when those similarities are taken as the definition of that people. When you are only seeing one aspect of a group or a people, you begin to see them as nothing outside of that trait or collection of traits, and thatās the trouble. It dehumanizes people and shoves them into boxes they donāt fit. It erases their experience and claims that there is only a single story of this people, and by perpetuating it, you are erasing the actual people, replacing them with a single caricature. As Adichie says, āThe single story creates stereotypes. And the problem with stereotypes is not that they are untrue, but that they are incomplete. They make one story become the only storyā (00:12:54 ā 00:13:16). Stereotypes begin as something true, but when that is the only thing you know of a group of people, you begin to see real-life people as nothing but the character from the single story youāve been told of them. Youāre not seeing people anymore, youāre seeing your own idea of who they must be according to you and your single story of them. So, while stereotypes might not be untrue, they are often unrecognizable.
Seiji Katayama in Fence: Striking Distance and Fence: Disarmed is unrecognizable. If Seiji in the comics had been depicted from the start as the obviously (and clumsily) autistic-coded character he was in the novels, I would still be upset about it. My skin would have begun to crawl, and I promise you I would have put down the very first volume with a sour taste in my mouth and never picked it up again. But, fine. If that was who Seiji was, depicting him as such in the novels makes sense. That would have been a one-to-one translation. Thatās not the case. Seijiās character was completely changed in translation from the comics to the novels, and the reason behind that incredible shift was this: Sarah Rees Brennan decided Seiji was autistic. That is what I find most hurtful and frustrating and clearly ableist about Seiji in the novels.
Here is a character who is sharp and mean and volatile. A genius in fencing and contentedly inept in people. Someone who clearly doesnāt always understand how other people are feeling but also doesnāt always care to understand. Thatās whatās fun and interesting about him, and I believe it will also be satisfying to watch his character grow and start to care about how his words affect other peopleāthough I doubt his sharp edges can ever be sanded away completely, nor would I want them to be. His blunt, harsh interactions with people are part of who he is and thatās one of the things about him that can easily be read as autistic. There are so many aspects of Seiji in the comics that can be read as autistic. Though I doubt it was intentional coding, there are definitely parts of his experiences that resonate with the autistic experience. The most obvious, of course, being his complete obsession with fencing and his disinterest in socializing. There are subtler ways, too, that his autism could be argued to present in the comics: his rigid routines, his specific and precise diet (though part of the fencing regime, it could also be seen as a sensory thing/safe food or a routines thing), his headphones that are used to block out noise (another sensory thing), wearing socks to bed (yet another sensory thing), his break downs triggered by ālittleā things (thatās such an emotional dysregulation thing, which isnāt a diagnostic requirement of autism, but is a common symptom of autism spectrum disorder), even the way he interacts with both Jesse and Nick can be indicators (the obsession with Jesse to the point of seeing him in other people, and the complete disregard for personal space and boundaries when he's upset at Nickājust getting in his face or dragging him around and not getting why that's inappropriate/what other implications dragging someone into a closet might have).
But hereās the thing. Seijiās autism in the books wasnāt based on Seijiās character in the comics. It was based on the single story of autism. Seijiās fixation with fencing is great to read as a special interest, carrying that over makes senseāspecial interests are all-consumingā¦but theyāre not the only part of an autistic personās personality. Since the comic hasnāt had time to actually give the characters too much context outside of fencing, I can let this one slideāthough it would have been nice to see his personality expanded beyond fencing when there was actually the time and space to do it. That, however, is the only thing I can let slide. The way Seijiās social issues were carried over was so crudely and demeaningly done that I wince constantly whenever I think of him in the novels. As thatās just about the only other thing taken from the comic, letās go into more detail on all the ways it was done to infantilize him, and, by extension, autistic people.
I know Iāve talked on this a lot, but Seiji isnāt exactly the sweetest pea in the pod, and I genuinely donāt know how some of the things he says could be read as anything but intentionally barbed and hurtful. Autism is really fun because thereās lots of different ways social interactions and cues can get lost in translation! Seijiās a bitch, and, yeah, some of the shit he says is him genuinely not understanding why he doesnāt get to say that, and part of it is that he doesnāt care to understand because it doesnāt matter to him. We could have examined that side of his social issues rather than turning him into an infantilized autistic poster child who is clueless beyond any realism and who is too childlike and dumbly sweet to ever say anything mean, much less mean or be accountable for any of the shit he says that hurts people.
Autistic people are absolutely capable of being intentionally hurtful; we have the mental capacity to realize when something we are saying is mean, and we have the responsibility to learn how to interact with other people in a way that doesnāt hurt them, even when being anything less than bluntly truthful doesnāt come naturally. What Iām saying is the spin on Seijiās social issues seen in the novels is much more about showing him to be autistic than about building him as a character, and it shows. I have said it before and I will say it again: fitting Seiji to autism instead of fitting that disability to who he is as a character is actually just prejudice. The things that make Seiji autistic should just be the things that make Seiji Seiji. It shouldnāt change him from who he is in the comics at all to write him as autisticāto do so is to say that he was not autistic enough, or not autistic in the right way, in the comics. Because the Seiji Katayama in the comics does not conform to the single story of autism, he was made to conform to it in the books, robbing him of authenticity and making him into another ableist caricature of autistic people.
It is unpleasant to see a character robbed of the autonomy to so much as be mean because he is autistic, and in general a really harmful mindset to hold toward neurodivergent peopleāremember that while our disabilities can explain behavior, they donāt excuse us of all wrongdoings and hurts we cause. The mentality that we should get away with everything just because weāre autistic is dangerous to both partiesāit enables abusive behavior among abusive (in this case) autistic people, and it also dehumanizes and infantilizes autistic people by stripping so much as the ability and freedom to be unkind away from us.
But whatās worse by far is the fixation on sexual ignorance presented in the books. We really never dropped the gag of a missed reference to sex in the comics, dragging it out across both novels to such an extent that even the original joke is no longer funny. Because the novels took that joke and made it a core personality trait that was weirdly prominent. To emphasize the lack of understanding about sex and sexual relationships is just as weird as fixating on hyper-sexuality would be. But in conjunction with Seijiās autism, itās an even more unsettling fixation. Autistic peopleāand many other neurodivergent and/or disabled peopleāare so often seen as unable to consent to sex because we donāt count as fully cognitively aware and mature in the eyes of neurotypical and/or non-disabled people. And focusing so much on an autistic characterās complete inability to comprehend sex on any level is just really gross for the way it infantilizes him and makes Seiji seem even more sexlessāwhich is an especially fun intersection with his identity as an Asian male, but thatās a whole other discussion. All the jokes about Seiji not understanding sex get old fast. At best, theyāre tiresome slap-stick that make an autistic Asian-American boy the butt of sex jokes. At worst, theyāre perpetuating harmful stereotypes that have a real-world impact on how society view and interact with people who theyāve been conditioned to see as incapable of having, comprehending, or consenting to sexual activity.
Now, it is worth noting that Nick is portrayed with similar ignorance to sex with the same cringey and frustrating imbecility played for laughs, and that their behavior is rooted in a canon throw-away joke. Iāve said before that Sarah Rees Brennan took that joke and ran in the completely wrong direction, but it can still be argued that it is canonical. In that case, then, more critical thought and empathy should have gone into how that joke was fit in with Seijiās autism. Since both the autistic coding and the child-like understanding of sex (which is to say a complete non-understanding) are so heavy-handed, the pieces fit together in an entirely uncomfortable and harmful way.
Moving on to Seijiās relationship with his parents. Autistic people do not always get wonderful, loving, and understanding parents or families who love them as if it were second nature, as easy as breathing. I know that. Turbulent relationships with families are a reality that a lot of people faceāqueer and disabled people especially. But here, again, is that single story. It is a given to non-autistic people that an autistic child will have parents who struggle to love them. It is only natural to see any parent who is (eventually) capable of trying to love their autistic child as a hero, as if loving your own child is special or brave just because theyāre different. I dislike the relationship between Seiji and his father being held up as evidence for Seijiās autism because itās a point-blank admission that you think autistic children are hard to love and that the very attempt to love them is a profound act of bravery on any neurotypical personās part. The following passage encapsulates Seijiās relationship with his father and why it is such an unsettling one to set up between neurotypical parent and autistic child:
āYou were such a distant kid,ā said his father. āYou always seemed so hard to reach.ā
Seiji responded, startled, āI didnāt think you were trying.ā
His father hesitated, then continued with an odd note in his voice: āWe should have tried harder. We thought it would be easier to talk to you when you were older, andāit never was. It got more difficult instead. Love was always easy for me and your mother, and I suppose we believed that it would be easy with our child, too.ā
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Seiji had always known he was difficult to love. His father didnāt need to tell him that. (Brennan 318).
āLoving you wasnāt easyā is not something you should be saying to your kid. Seiji clearly internalizes it and believes he is at fault for being unlovableāfor being differentāfor being, in essence, autistic. And hereās the thing, that is an idea autistic children are taught from society itself, through the media we consume to the reactions of people when they discover our autism or our strangeness, it is a message we already internalize, and itās not a message I really care to see here in Fence. Itās not okay to not address that in this relationship. Itās not okay for Koichiro to put all the fault on Seiji for being hard to love and for them to both move on as if thatās a perfectly acceptable thing to say. Itās not okay for the only autistic character in the books to have such an emphasis on a relationship that boils down to this: Koichiro is an amazing father and a brave, kind man for being willing to try forging a relationship with his autistic son after 16 years of emotional neglect on account of his son being hard to love. Autistic people deserve better than this single story.
Again, I will admit that Seijiās relationship with his parents is referenced in canon as being distant. But again, if you are going to code a character as autistic, itās your responsibility to consider how you frame things. It is the glorification of Koichiro, the narrative patting itself on the back for what a good dad he is to the poor little autistic boy, that is especially grotesque. We focus more on Seijiās relationship with his father than on any other parent involvementāwhich, from the comics, doesnāt make much sense. The reason we spend so much time with Koichiro is to emphasize how the default with an autistic child is not to love them. And while this may be something that resonates with many people, it is also upheld as the ultimate truth instead of just one truth among many, and āā¦that is how to create a single story. Show a people as one thing, as only one thing over and over again, and that is what they becomeā (Adichie, 00:09:17 - 00:09:29). Show autistic people and non-autistic people alike that autistic people are harder to love, and that is what they become. Itās always the autistic kids who have troubled relationships with parents, who are lucky for their parents just to love them. Either give Seiji good parents from the start or keep them as the neglectful parents they were implied to be, donāt give me half-assed redemptions that perpetuate the idea that autistic people are hard to love and should be grateful when thrown a bone.
Seiji as written in the novels is nothing but another version of the same story. Another Sheldon Cooper and Sherlock Holmes. Genius in one area, the butt of jokes for ignorance in others, robotic and awkward, excused of all inappropriate behavior. He is the same story of autism that we have seen a million times before, and he was completely altered in order to fit it. You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics and recontextualizing to make the novels fit into the comics, and for something that was meant to be built from the comics, it shouldnāt be so hard to see the one in the other. Seiji is an entirely different character in the novels, and if you read the comics again and change his every move and motive to add up to the boy he was in the books, you have to do a lot of leg work and a lot of squinting. To see Seiji as autistic, you shouldnāt have to do any of that. You shouldnāt have to rewrite his story to make him autistic. You should be telling and seeing his own story, and have autism be a part of it. Yes, stereotypes can stem from truth. Yes, there are autistic people much like the boy in Sarah Rees Brennanās novels. No, theyāre not wrong or harmful to the autistic community for fitting comfortably into the narrative the rest of the world expects to see in all of us. But thatās not Seiji. And if thatās the character you want to write or read, I donāt think Seiji Katayama should be the one you go to for it, because he is his own story of autism. Or he could have been.
There are so many ways to read and write Seiji as autistic. There are so many ways to have coded him as autistic without making him more āautisticā than āSeijiāāmore āautisticā than human. He is nothing but his autism in the books, and it does a disservice to his character and to autistic peopleāour autism is a part of us, it is not the only thing we are. I do think the coding came from good intentions, but it was very poorly done and revealed a lot of implicit bias. The idea of Seiji being autistic turned into the reality on-page of an autistic caricature with the name Seiji Katayama scrawled across his forehead. If so much effort hadnāt gone into making Seiji so evidently and āclassicallyā autistic, he naturally would have read as more autistic by simple merit of being him. To intentionally code him as autistic, more care should have gone into looking beyond the typical qualities of autism you see everywhere in media (childish, robotic, stupid, incapable of understanding sex, mean but itās okay because the baby doesnāt know better). Autistic people deserve to be picky about autistic representation. Just because the Fence novels gave us yet another single story of autism doesnāt mean we have to sing its praises because āThereās an autistic person in this book! What more could you want?ā
I want more than what we got. I want better. I want a Seiji that doesnāt make my skin crawl to read. I want to be able to see the headcanon of autistic Seiji without cringing away. Iāve been in the fandom since 2018, and I never saw any headcanons about Seiji being autistic until this last year. Autistic!Seiji is very much a thing of the novels. And, on the one hand, itās cool that people are on board with him being autisticā¦itās just a little unfortunate, in my opinion, that heās only been seen that way since being turned into a stereotype. So, if you only started reading Seiji as autistic after reading the novels, ask yourself why. And then ask yourself if the boy in the novels is still Seiji, or if he just matches the story of autism that you recognize.
Works Cited
Adichie, Chimamanda Ngozi. " Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie TEDGlobal 2009 The danger of a single story." ted.com, uploaded by TEDGlobal 2009, July 2009, https://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_ngozi_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story?language=en
Brennan, Sarah Rees. Fence: Striking Distance. Little, Brown and Company, 2020.