random thought, not even sure if you still like Octavian but i was watching a summary of Augustus Caesar’s reign and something interesting is that Augustus never declared himself a king or an emperor (due to not wanting to be stabby stabbed like Julius) instead he strategically made the senate acknowledge his status without making any actions or saying anything that implied that he was giving himself power
So technically if Octavian looked up to Augustus (this is me assuming Octavian would have looked up to Augustus, given he mentions his namesake) no way would he try to declare himself anything higher quoting Reyna “Octavian was elevating himself almost to the level of emperor.”
Which is giving me the impression that the whole declaring himself pontifex Maximus had nothing to do with him declaring himself like an emperor, since it would make sense for Octavian to pull smth like Augustus and not make any big moves.
Sorry for the unhinged/maybe wrong rant!
Have a great day’
I've analysed Octavian all I can without more content (if he comes out with a Roman prequel or something it will definitely reactivate my fixation lol)
It's hard to know what Riordan was going for in this scene beyond "look he's (still) evil".
Octavian definitely looks up to Augustus. He says so in this very scene. But I think the big context is whether or so New Romans care if they have a sole leader or not. On the face of it, they do, since they have two praetors and a senate. But then again, Reyna was able to reign solo for months without any objections (even Octavian didn't point the blatant power imbalance). She was technically co-ruling with Jason but regular Romans would definitely find it icky. If they do care, Octavian would need to work around that.
It's weird that he'd even do the Pontifex thing, considering he stated in the previous book that he'd be in charge if Reyna left anyway. That just seems like a great way to make them mad! Especially because Octavian would be one of the only people at Camp who could be a Pontifex in the first place. All the children of the gods are inherently bastards. And to be a Pontifex your parents have to be married in a specific way (Romans have three types of marriage).
I think this is just a case of Riordan not reading his own books back. Because Reyna also directly contradicts her previous orders in this scene as well.
In the empire, the emperor was also the Pontifex Maximus. So I think that's where Riordan ripped it from. But that makes no sense in the New Rome context since, canonically, there are no other priests! You could say Octavian was always the Pontifex Maximus based on that. Furthermore, when Jason takes the title literally no one accuses him of claiming the powers of an emperor.
If I were to read into the scene, without Reyna's hate tinted glasses, I'd say he was desperately trying to appease/communicate with the gods – which would match what Jason is told in this same book. I think it's also important to remember that Gaea is the one sending this vision. She wants Reyna to hate Octavian and will show her exactly what she needs to see for that to happen. (This fact is often overlooked by the heroes who have them)
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do you think Octavian is queer coded?and if yes can you explain why?I read a post from another person that wrote that he is because of his description in the books (sorry I can’t remember the user or the details),what do you think about that?
I've wanted to talk about something along these lines for a little while, so thanks for the ask! I think I read that post as well, and I generally agreed with it.
While I’m not sure if I’d call it queer-coded, I’d definitely argue he’s got plenty of feminine traits. And a guy being effeminate is often used in queer-coding.
“Don’t you have… I don’t know,” Percy said, “an oracle or something?” [Son of Neptune]
One of the first things we learn about Octavian is that he has the gift of prophecy.
In the Riordanverse, seeing into the future is feminine. While there are male seers, they are usually coupled with a female character, almost as a counterbalance.
The most famous of the seers, the Oracle of Delphi, is always a woman. Rachel, the oracle in the attic, and May Castellan are the sources of prophecy in the original series. Yes, Percy does have prophetic dreams but these aren’t viewed in the same way as a gift of prophecy. They are just your standard "demigod dreams" and not something he can control.
No, the first male seer we have in the main series is Octavian. It takes until The Dark Prophecy for another male to join the ranks: Trophonius.
Halcyon Green does appear in The Demigod Diaries, but I’m inclined to set that to the side. While canon, Halcyon’s character is not featured in the main series. He's not even mentioned in The Trials of Apollo.
However, Trophonius is a bit different to Octavian. He is paired with another: Georgina. They are both tied to the Dark Oracle.
And this trend is not just seen with Trophonius. There is the Arrow of Dodona as well, which speaks in a masculine voice. The Arrow is a branch from a grove associated with Rhea, a goddess.
Prophecy isn’t exclusive to female characters but it is feminine. And when we do have a masculine seer, there is usually a feminine counterpart (Arrow & Rhea, Trophonius & Georgina).
But Octavian has no feminine counterpart.
Yes, Ella is introduced in the same book, but their powers are not linked. Nor is their story. In fact, I would argue that Octavian’s desire to possess the Sibylline book works to counter this pairing.
No, Octavian holds his power independently. And, as if the bridge that disconnect, Riordan makes him more effeminate (often portraying this in a negative light but I wouldn't be going into that much here).
A pretty impressive trick, considering the kid didn’t look like much. [Son of Neptune]
Octavian is repeatedly said to look harmless or unintimidating. Despite warnings, Percy doesn’t believe Octavian could be a force to be reckoned with. This is done to show that Octavian’s power is not physical.
“You’re a warrior. Octavian is a talker. Put him in front of the senate, and suddenly he becomes the powerful one.”
Now, being a good politician isn’t necessarily feminine - it's gender neutral, especially in the "underhanded" portrayal of Octavian's politics.
However, I want to point out Octavian’s favoured weapon. We know that Octavian would be well versed in all the weapons of Rome, and since he’s part of the most prestigious cohort, he should have access to any weapon he wants. But Octavian is almost always using a knife – whether it be his augur’s knife, the iron knife of a pontifex, or something unspecified (I’m assuming a pugio). No other male main character uses a knife as their favoured weapon, but there are two female characters who fight with knives: Annabeth and Piper. Like Octavian, they fight don’t fight with their physical strength. But in the case of Octavian, who is male, this is viewed in a negative light.
Now these things should be seen in the context of Octavian's character as a whole. These could be easily dismissed when we consider that everything Riordan does with Octavian is done to 'other’ him. Octavian often described as a scarecrow. At once point he’s called ‘ghoulish’. So Octavian’s character isn’t just made to see effeminate. All of this is simply done to make him different, regardless of how that need be achieved. That’s why Octavian is often said to be coded as disabled, or coded as autistic, etc. Riordan hit a lot of check boxes when he was creating this character.
Yes, he has the power of prophecy. Yes, his favoured weapon is a knife. If that was it, I think we could all pack up and go home. No coding happening here. But that’s not where it stops.
Let's get into Octavian's voice.
Octavian screamed in a shrill voice – maybe ordering the First Cohort to stand their ground, maybe trying to sing soprano – but Percy put a stop to it. [SON]
Soprano is the highest vocal range and of course ‘shrill’ itself means high-pitched and piercing. If this was a one off thing, we could probably ignore it, but Octavian often showed to have a high-pitched voice.
Time for the shrieking speed-run! (btw, definition of ‘shriek’ is a high-pitched piercing sound or words)
“I was just there!” Octavian shrieked. “I saw it with my own eyes!”
“Surrender to Rome!” Octavian shrieked.
Over by the docks, a familiar voice shrieked over the wind: “Kill them! Kill them all!”
‘You will be destroyed!’ Octavian shrieked.
Bonus:
Octavian made a squeaking sound. “What as that for?”
“Reyna!” Octavian cried. “You can’t seriously be considering this!
Now, this might just be because Octavian yells constantly. He’s almost always yelling or shouting, or in this case, shrieking. But it’s still a very consistent thing that happens with his character.
I want to point out, as well, that Octavian’s voice only goes higher when he lacks control over a situation. In Son of Neptune, he’s fully capable of shouting without his voice being high-pitched:
“Silence!” Octavian’s voice sounded a lot more commanding than it had the previous night on the battlefield.
This comes back to Octavian's feminine traits being considered negative. I'm not expert, but I wouldn't be surprised is this was all part of the "queer-coded villain" stereotype.
Now, let's talk about Octavian and... men.
Reyna had always liked Mike Kahale. Unfortunately, Mike was very loyal to his sponsor. And his sponsor was Octavian. [BOO]
Please note the italics here – why are there italics, Rick? He already added the word "very", but then he put that modifier in italics. Is something more significant is being hinted at?
“That’s one of Octavian’s right-hand men, but he’s a good legionnaire. I may be able to reason with him.” [BOO]
From this line, we learn that Mike is not the only ‘right hand man’ Octavian has. Which is unusual because, by definition, you should really only have one. And it's not "right-hands" but "right-hand men". So we've gendered it. But we do know, from previous scenes, that Octavian is often followed around by more than one burly guy.
By himself, the skinny augur wouldn’t have bothered her, but the two other guys looked like seasoned warriors – a lot bigger and stronger than Annabeth wanted to deal with, especially since Piper and she were armed only with daggers. [MoA]
Two centurions leaned casually on their javelins, chatting with a tall skinny blond guy in a purple toga. Leo stumbled. It was that freak Octavian, the augur from Camp Jupiter, who was always screaming for war. [HoH]
For the second quote, we don’t know the gender of the centurions but, well, most of the centurions are male – so it wouldn’t be so shocking to learn these are men too.
We don't know Octavian's relationship with these people. However, it does feel like the cherry on top of a cake, you know?
Since I'm no expert on queer-coding in media, far from it, I wouldn't want to say "yes he's definitely queer-coded" but he does feel that way from where I'm standing.
One thing I realized about Juno is that she sees herself and in some ways acts like she is Jason's mother. For example, she trying to pair him with Piper, just a mom thinking she is helping her son with his dating life. She found a great partner.
I just think it would have been interisting to see her relationship with Jason, and well in my views Juno seems to be a controling mother. She cares for Jason deeply, and she thinks she knows what is best for him and won't consider his opinions on making decisions that will affect his life. I also think that she is not afraid to use him in her plans as a pawn although I believe she says to herself she is doing it for his own good.
I've been thinking and well Zeus and Poseidon weren't punished by Styx for breaking the promises. I mean Zeus made two promises sworn by the River Styx that he broke and as far as we know there was no consequence.
My theory is that three different group of people trying to dethrone him in such short amount of time is his punishment.
She looked like someone who enjoyed sticking her fingers in electrical sockets... when she smiled, her face looked unnaturally stretched, and the high-voltage light in her eyes made me wonder if she was blind...She was thin as a scarecrow, but that didn't stop her from almost crushing me. [The Last Olympian, 83]
Reading this, in comparison to these descriptions...
He looked like a scarecrow wearing a bedsheet...he had a crooked smile and a slightly crazy look in his eyes, like he'd just been playing an intense video game.
Not to mention the lightning / electricity parallel. Because Octavian was surrounded by lightning when Percy first saw him.
I know most people assume when Percy says,
"You reminded me of someone," Percy said. "I can't remember who."
They think it's Luke. Honestly, that's why I assumed. But Luke really doesn't look like Octavian at all. (From the Wiki) He's got a michevious smile / sneaky look, athletic / muscular build, and sharp nose. The only similarity is his blonde hair + blue eyes combo. But I feel like vibes are just as important.
Then someone (I can't remember who) mentioned it might actually be May Castellan. And then it clicked. Because just read that description of May versus the introduction of Octavian!
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I was thinking about Octavian and some things that don't make much sense about him.
And well, we know that it is Roman to want power and to be ambitious. We also know that Octavian is the most Roman demigod in the series. So one of Octavian's main traits should be ambition. However Reyna says that Octavian only started being ambitous after Jason disappeared, that's when he decided to become praetor.
I was wondering why he wasn't ambitious before, and I got two theories.
1. He was always ambitious/wanted to be praetor:
Octavian is smart, so he knew he had no chance to be praetor when Reyna and Jason were the options so he decided to focus his energy on other stuff.
Maybe he focused on becoming Centurion of the First Cohort or he was already the Centurion and wanted to use this position to get more influence in the camp.
Anyway, Octavian was just waiting a power vacumm so he could try to become praetor. He spent all the time he was expecting this vacumm trying to expand his influence and power.
2. He became ambitious/wanted to be praetor after the Titan War:
I like this idea more, because I think it makes Octavian character more interisting.
But basically Octavian decided to be more Roman, to have a leading position after the Titan War because, as Apollo said, he wanted to make Rome great again. So that's why he only showed interest in being praetor after Jason disappeared.
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Ps. If you have another theory to why Octavian only became interested in being praetor after Jason disappeared feel free to comment.
Looking for more? Here's my master list of Octavian analysis.
I've discussed the character of Octavian a lot and one thing I noticed about his character is that there's a lot of parallels between him and Jason Grace.
What do they have in common?
The "Roman" facades
The desire for change (both to become more Greek and to uplift the monsters/fauns).
Healing the gods / becoming Pontifex Maximus
They both had duties forced upon them, likely from a young age
The general chafing against the rules, even against Fate itself
Yet they are at odds with each other.
I think it's because Octavian was forced to take on the sinister part of Rome. Skilled at the infighting, political jockeying.
It's easy to say for Jason to say he doesn’t like all that, from where he stands upon high. But Octavian was never the "golden boy".
Jason was loved and respected because of his father. Octavian, despite being the augur, is rarely offered respect. I think that's why Jason can be the strong and steady "leader". While Octavian can only be desperate.
Jason never needed to shout to be heard.
Octavian mustshout.
And blackmail. And make under the table deals. And generally reduce himself to being a slimy bastard.
And because I’m me, I’m going to explore that.
First Up:
Jason’s Memories and Past
There’s a running theme thought out Heroes of Olympus, even after Jason supposedly recovered from his amnesia at the Wolf House, of Jason either not remembering his past or feeling disassociated from it.
At the end of the Lost Hero, we get this passage,
His memory was still foggy, but bits and pieces were coming back. The night Lupa had tested him at the Wolf House, to decide if he would be a pup or food. Then the long trip south to… he couldn’t remember, but he had flashes of his old life. The day he’s gotten his tattoo. The day he’d been raised on a shield and proclaimed a praetor.
The first two events happened when Jason was very young – a toddler. And the final one, happened when Jason was fifteen. That’s a massive gap to have in his memories.
Which is why it makes sense that Jason defines it as “foggy” and “bit and pieces”. His memories didn’t return to him with the same clarity as Percy’s. And that was purposeful (which I'll be digging into later).
Throughout Mark of Athena, Jason is incredibly close to his chest when it comes to his feelings regarding the Romans.
And we see why in House of Hades, months after Jason supposedly recovered his memories,
It was hard to talk about his life before Juno wiped his memory. His years at Camp Jupiter seemed made up, like a movie he’d acted in decades before. [House of Hades]
And this is observable as well,
“And Jason… well, he has changed. He seems distant, no longer quite Roman.” [Mark of Athena]
So Jason hasn’t been able to reconnect with his Roman past. Some of his old memories he can accept, like those with Reyna; but everything else haunts him.
He’s no longer Roman, true.
However, with his memories back, he can no longer be the boy who adventured in The Lost Hero.
Which Piper notices,
But sometimes he acted so distant, like last night, when he’s been reluctant to talk about that old Roman legend. [Mark of Athena]
Jason surely has more memories of life than being a toddler (a few months at most) and his friendship with Reyna (which was approximately 2-3 years long). But he doesn’t dwell on them. He refuses to dwell on them.
So let's discuss why - and to answer that, we have to answer the question: Who was Praetor Jason?
Tradition, Romaness, and their Facades
Both Jason and Octavian are often presented as traditional Romans, upholding that structure, but they both desired change – a new start for Rome.
Because I've gone into already in other posts, I'll cover Octavian's facade first. Octavian wears his Romanness as a defence mechanism; it's a lie, an act. It's not who he is. Underneath the picture of a "good Roman" Octavian is a revolutionary. There are certain traditions and rules he simply doesn't believe in, and so he ignores them as much as possible. This can be a good or bad thing, depending on what he does and who it affects.
We can see his shifting mentality in how he dresses throughout the series. Whether he's in a toga, whether he takes it off, or if he removes all modern clothes (hiding his true self, his personality behind tradition).
So what about Jason?
Once he’d become praetor, he’d campaigned to rename the legion the First Legion rather than the Twelfth Legion, to symbolize a new start for Rome. The idea had almost caused a mutiny. New Rome was all about tradition and legacies; the rules didn’t change easily. Jason had learned to live with that and even rose to the top. [House of Hades]
Jason was praetor for only a 4-6 weeks before he disappeared. In that time, he almost caused a mutiny with his desire to change the legion. Despite what Jason says a little later, that he learned to live with the traditions – it’s clear from that action that he didn’t.
Jason isn’t the only on who wanted to change the legion. To give it a new start. The same can be said for Octavian, who wanted to make Apollo the patron god of the legion, replacing Jupiter. In the same way that, outwardly, Jason learned to accept the Roman way, Octavian goes “full Roman” in Blood of Olympus. He dons the full regalia of a Roman. Yet he retains his desire to reform the legion; to control it’s future.
Despite the facades, neither Jason nor Octavian fully abandon their desire for change, for a new start. And even more in parallel, both of them die before those visions could come close to fruition.
Jason could not help but die a Roman, as he feared. For that was his fate.
Octavian could not help but die in the fight against Gaia, as he (seemingly) feared. For that was his fate.
So what did Jason become, when he accepted the traditions of Rome – when he took on that façade?
Who was Praetor Jason?
Stripped of his memories, Jason still retained a personality. That personality isn’t a very likable one at first, especially in how he views Leo. Jason looks down on the people around him, not in a cruel way, but he still looks down on them. He is the type to “help”, but not as an equal. Instead, he believes – knows – that he is moral, physical, and social superior of all those around him.
He’s also fully prepares to save and protect those around him. He is selfless, almost a martyr in his actions. And that is where he becomes a likeable character. As much as he is arrogant, he is also kind and compassionate.
By the time Jason was elected praetor, he had gained himself quiet a legend – a legend, I suspect – that was built upon the character he had constructed for himself.
“You… the great Jason Grace… the praetor I looked up to. You were supposed to be so fair, such a good leader. And now you…” [Mark of Athena]
But it is a façade, it’s not real. Hazel admired him, she “looked up to” him. Jason was put on a pedestal from the moment he arrived at Camp Jupiter. So the arrogance makes sense, but I don't think it's Jason's most natural form. It’s something that was taught him, expected of him.
Jason lists Hazel as one of his friends at the end of the Lost Hero, but we can see that they weren’t really friends. They weren’t equals.
His friend’s faces: Dakota, Gwendolyn, Hazel, Bobby. And Reyna. Definitely there’d been a girl named Reyna. [The Lost Hero]
Even with Reyna, the relationship was built on expectations. Not on true connection. There was a fundamental disconnect between how Reyna saw things and how Jason did. One I’ve spoken about when I analysed her character.
Later in the Lost Hero, I think we get a really interesting quote, in context of what we know from the rest of the series,
The statue said nothing. Its painted eyes seemed to stare at him. “I wish I could talk with you in person,” Jason continued, “but I understand you can’t do that. The Roman gods don’t like to interact with mortals so much, and – well, you’re the king. You’ve got to set an example.”
We know that gods do come and visit New Rome a lot. There are multiple examples/quotes about this – too many to list here. So, it seems to me that Jason has been lied to, or perhaps simply lies to himself, so that the abandonment of his father doesn’t feel so wrong.
Furthermore, Jason phrases this message to his father regarding leadership and setting an example. His father is a king. And, in many way, Jason is as well. A “king” of the legion (or as he puts it "a prince in waiting"). To be king means to be above – to be isolated. And I believe the old Jason played into that. Always setting the example, never opening up, showing his true self. Never reaching out; in many ways, following the example of his father.
Having Lived on a Pedestal
So we have some insights into who Praetor Jason was.
I want to go in deeper by what I mean by Jason’s selfless arrogance with a few quotes from the opening of the Lost Hero. Because while his memories might be gone, that haven’t been replaced by anything – in the way Piper’s and Leo’s had been. And for that reason, Jason retains some of his old self.
None of them looked like hardened criminals, he wondered what they’d all done to get sentenced to a school of delinquents, and he wondered why he belonged with them. - Page 8
He’s confused as to why he could be considered a “bad kid”. He knows himself well enough to believe he wouldn’t belong among these kids. He immediately others himself from the crowd.
He’s also shown to be judgemental of others.
Sometimes, Jason turns out to be justified in his opinions, in the case of Dylan,
He smiled like he was God’s gift to juvenile delinquent girls everywhere. Jason hated him instantly. – Page 9
But sometimes not really,
Leo got up and brushed himself off. “I hate that guy.” He offered Jason his arm, like they should go skipping inside together. “‘I’m Dylan. I’m so cool, I want to date myself, but I can’t figured out how! You want to date me instead? You’re so lucky!’”
“Leo,” Jason said, “You’re weird.”
“Yeah, you tell me that a lot.” Leo grinned. “But if you don’t remember me, that means I can reuse all my old jokes. Come on!”
Jason figured that if this was his best friend, his life must be pretty messed up. – Page 9
Straight off the bat, Jason dismisses Leo. He met Leo ten minutes ago, and has already decided Leo is, more or less, beneath him.
This is the arrogance I’m talking about. The Jason we meet at the beginning is uptight, quick to assume people aren’t up to the same standards as he is. Whether that’s Dylan (who’s a misogynist) or Leo (who’s ‘weird’).
Even if he decides he’s going to be friendly with Leo, it’s from that place of being socially “higher”.
In addition to this, Jason has a bit of saviour mentality (which is a good trait for a hero, ‘with great power, comes great responsibility – Jason certainly knows that!). But we need to discuss it regardless, because sometimes Jason does try to step in, even when his help isn’t asked for.
Piper ignored them, but Jason was ready to punch them himself. He might not remember Piper, or even who he was, but he knew he hated mean kids.
Leo caught his arm. “Be cool. Piper doesn’t like us fighting her battles.”
What makes Jason a good guy here is that he accepts that. He doesn’t ignore Leo’s advice and charge into save Piper. This shows his willingness to listen to others. So yeah, he’s not a bad guy, he’s just used to being put on a pedestal.
Jason's arc is about taking down the facade, the persona.
The True Jason
One thing that I find interesting about the false memories Hera created of Jason, is that I believe they lined up with the person Jason wanted to be, the person he could be without his persona interfering.
All semester she’d worked on a relationship, trying to get Jason to notice her as more than a friend. Finally she’d gotten the big dope to kiss her. [Lost Hero 33]
This version of Jason is reminiscent of how he was unaware of Reyna’s affection for him. How she hoped they would one day date.
Jason stood right next to her: those sky blue eyes, close-cropped blond hair, that cute little scar on his upper lip. His face was kind and gentle, but always a little sad. [Lost Hero 33]
“My memories aren’t fake. They’re so real. The time we set Coach Hedge’s pants on fire. The time Jason and I watched a meteor shower on the dorm roof and I finally got the stupid guy to kiss me…” [Lost Hero 49]
She had liked Jason from the first week they’d met. He was so nice to her, and so patient, he could even put up with hyperactive Leo and his stupid jokes. He’d accepted her for herself and didn’t judge her because of the stupid things she’d done. [Lost Hero 49]
In many way, I find the “Jason” Piper describes to be the person we come to know. He’s a little reckless, he's ready to break the rules. But he’s also patient and caring. He is far less judgemental than the Jason at the start of the Lost Hero.
And why the Romans shouldn't have been so surprised to hear the Wolf House was in trouble.
Jason explained how he'd arrived at Camp Half-Blood without his memory, and how he'd gone on a quest with Piper and Leo to rescue the goddess Hera (or Juno, take your pick [...]) from imprisonment at the Wolf House in northern California.
"Impossible!" Octavian broke in. "That's our most sacred place. If the giants had imprisoned a goddess there - "
The reaction should be completely different, as I'll explain. It should be, "what? there's no way - Lupa would have told us if she was in trouble!"
How Many New Legionaries?
So begin with, the legion has 5 cohort of about 40 legionaries. Assuming they had some losses in the final battle of the Titan War, let's round that to 240 (easier for math that way).
Every legionary serves 10 years (unless you're a main character, in which case you might serve four years, you might serve thirteen). That's 24 new legionaries a year.
12 months in a year, gives us 1 new legionary joining the legion every fortnight. We know the legion is picky, brutal, and experiences desertion, so this is a low estimate.
That means, on average, the Lupa should be passing a new Roman demigod every 1-3 weeks. These doesn't include the demigods she fails. Because Camp Jupiter would be unaware of their existence.
First Period of Inactivity
General Timeline
October 2009 –
Jason disappears from Camp Jupiter
Hera may or may not have been imprisoned at this point. The choice to take Jason might have simply been prompted by the revelation of the prophecy (which occured on the 18th of August). This may have to set her previous plans into motion. As we know, she’s been preparing for the union of the camps for a while.
Mid-November 2009* –
By this point, Hera has been imprisoned. She is held at the Wolf House.
My prison grows stronger by the hour. It took me a full month to gather enough energy to work even the smallest magic through its bonds. – said in mid-December by Hera/Juno
Hera is not freed until the 21st of December.
For more than a month (potentially two months), the Wolf House is inactive. Lupa and her wolves have been driven out.
Such a time period of no demigods arriving might not have seemed that unusual, but this was before the Romans were dealing with the monsters not dying.
It ought to have raised questions, at the very least. They are said to be able to contact Lupa.
However, they might have assumed the demigods Lupa was dealing with were simply not up to muster.
* November 2009 is also one potentialy period in which Frank Zhang joined Camp Jupiter. As we can see, that would have been difficult, if the Wolf House was in the hands of others.
Wolf House Remains Destroyed
Despite being great builders and in contact with Lupa (she's been delaying the giant army marching towards New Rome). The Romans have not reconstructed the Wolf House between December and April. Nor, it seems, do they ever do so.
He’s found himself in the courtyard of a burnt-out mansion in the middle of the woods, wearing shorts, an orange T-shirt and a leather necklace with a bunch of strange clay beads. [Son of Neptune 6]
So Lupa has chosen, it seems, not to inform the Romans that her home has been destroyed. Nor has any new demigod who arrived between those times mentioned it.
Second Period of Inactivity
April 2010 – Percy wakes up, begins training with Lupa at the Wolf House
Early May 2010 – * the second date for Frank's arrival at Camp Jupiter (six weeks prior to Percy’s arrival), meaning that Frank and Percy should have met at the Wolf House.
19 June 2010 – Percy arrives at Camp Jupiter
Because Frank does not recognise Percy, we can decide that Frank joined the legion at an earier date. Potentially in Early November, before Hera was captured. He'd have been the last demigod for some time, if that is the case.
Percy was with Lupa for two-three months. And seems implies that he's been training alone. So once again, there are no demigods arriving for severals weeks.
At that point, I would think the Romans would be very concerned. There are approx. 8(+) legionaries short, and while that might not sound like a lot. They would only get 24(+) legionaries in a year. And considering they are low in numbers from the Titan War, they need those new recruits.
And since Lupa (or one of her wolves) seems to come to the demigod when it's time for them to learn, her lack of visits ought to be concerning.
So why aren't the Romans questioning Percy about Lupa, about the Wolf House itself. Sure, he's a Greek, but Lupa has approved him.
I don't know. It just makes the Romans seem pretty negligent.