#grandapplewit

oooh boy. Well, in the interests of not making this an essay and repeating many other metas, some of which I’ll link at the end, the bulletpoints:

- the movie made fun of the previous movies, which I actually really liked. this is most evident in the play scene in ragnarok, making fun of Loki’s very moving death scene and making him out to be a self aggrandizing buffoon

-   the movie completely erased any progress Thor’d made into becoming a better man and even regressed him, cause now’s completely convinced he’s a hero and anything he does is the right thing. the movie loves to validate him about this. I went from liking Thor to hating his guts.

- it makes out that Loki was a terrible king just sitting on his ass and eating grapes all day. it completely glosses over any identity issues he would have pretending to be his dad all the time, not to mention resolves all his trauma about being jotun off screen and really lazily. also makes fun of his suicide attempt later on Sakaar

- Hela being their secret sister is just boring and makes no sense, but the real thing that offended me about her was that it seemed like the movie was trying to take everything about Loki and give it to her, only more lazily and worse. for instance, the reason Loki isn’t in his signature green and black for most of the movie is cause “there’d be too much green otherwise”. which completely ignores the fact that if there’s too many characters in green around, the logical step is then to change the colors of the newly introduced character

- the colonialism “commentary” the movie spends 2 mins on is lazy, incomplete and unlike what other people would have you believe, not new in the slightest. I made this gifset commenting on it in 2014 . also, for all that it criticized Odin for building his kingdom on blood and war, it then turned right around and made him the spiritual guide to Thor at the end, with Thor very blatantly comparing himself to Odin and finding himself wanting. mixed messaging much? not to mention that in doing the lackluster commentary, it completely sidestepped the issue of Loki’s allegory of internalized racism and the whole “stealing a baby from that realm you conquered, trying to make it exactly like you and then discarding it when it turns out to be its own person”

- the movie did not meet an emotional scene it did not immediately undercut with a joke. most glaringly, Asgard’s destruction

- completely stripping Loki of any competence and prowess and making fun of him at every turn. the original set up of that meeting with Strange had him locking Loki up in a porta potty where people could pee on him

- making Loki out to be nothing but a backstabbing trickster, whose problems with his family were all in his head and would all be sorted out if he just realized that they loved him. this is the driving force of my hatred of the movie, encapsulated by the elevator and electrocution scene. it completely invalidates Loki’s rather very valid issues. until the events of Thor when he finds out his heritage, Loki has been shown to be a loyal and caring person who was utterly devastated by the revelation. he wasn’t some shithead who kept stabbing his brother for fun. he cried when he stabbed Thor in the Avengers with a 2 inch knife when they were blatantly at odds - this isn’t someone who betrays people for funsies

- about the only character the movie is any good to is Heimdall. I’m not putting this here as a dig at Heimdall, but as a condemnation of the treatment of every other character

- it strips the Thor franchise of every other introduced character, writing off Jane, Darcy and Selvig with one mention and unceremoniously killing off the rest of Thor’s friends

- Hela is also a terrible villain, who just goes around monologuing exposition at Skurge

- Skurge is the only character in the movie with a narrative arc and he barely has a dozen lines

- Bruce and the Hulk are completely OOC

- there’s definitely more, but I’ve lost steam. so here are some links to previous meta myself and others have written. I’m sure you’ll find even more if you go through the ragnarok negativity, ragnarok criticism and anti ragnarok tags on tumblr

this is just my internal monologue 24/7 did u hack into my brain??? every decision i make writing suns is motivated by oh god what is hakoda gonna think of this when he sees his kids again and if it doesnt make me think its gonna make Hakoda go gray, i do not do that thing.