#godoflight

Hfjfjf don’t judge meeeee!!! 🫣🌜✨

I haven’t watched much of the new episodes of Doctor Who lately, but the internet kept flooding me with this incredibly chaotic (and charming) character… so I checked it out and... this quickly popped into my mind! 🤣

Him just chilling, probably before arriving on Earth, wondering what would he find.

I really need to catch up with the series 😱, but ...AAAAAAAA I hope Lux returns someday. I’d love to see more of him 👉👈.

Overview of the Divine Entities in RWBY

In the RWBY universe, the concept of "gods" primarily revolves around two central brother deities—the God of Light and the God of Darkness—who are responsible for creating Remnant and its inhabitants. However, the lore also details the Blacksmith, an avatar of the Great Tree from the Ever After, who plays a god-like role in ascension and balance within that realm. While references to "four gods" exist, the lore explicitly confirms only two true gods (the Brothers), with the Blacksmith and the Great Tree functioning as ancient, powerful entities tied to their origins. This analysis encompasses the two Brothers, the Blacksmith (as a distinct figure), and the Great Tree (as their progenitor), exploring their interconnected roles in creation, destruction, and evolution.

Physical Appearances

The entities vary in form, reflecting their roles in creation and transformation:

God of Light manifests in multiple forms throughout his existence. In his humanoid form, he appears as a tall, muscular, golden figure adorned with branching antlers, evoking a regal, ethereal presence that commands reverence. His draconic transformation reveals a serpentine Eastern-style dragon with a flowing, glowing mane and piercing silver eyes, symbolizing wisdom and the life force itself. During his youth in the Ever After, he appeared as an innocent golden fawn, gradually evolving into his more draconic state as he matured and gained power.

God of Darkness presents a stark contrast to his brother. His humanoid form is slender and purple-hued with curved ram horns, possessing an aura that absorbs light around him to emphasize his destructive nature. When assuming his draconic form, he becomes a skeletal Western-style dragon with frayed, tattered wings and prominent spines, resembling the very essence of death and decay. Like his brother, he began his existence in the Ever After as a purple lamb, innocent and pure before evolving into his current destructive manifestation.

The Blacksmith appears mechanical and robotic, with a skeletal frame that towers imposingly over humans. Her hollow eye sockets peer out from a face that blends industrial precision with organic warmth. Her spine resembles a wooden trunk that branches outward like a tree, creating a unique fusion of mechanical and natural elements. She dresses practically in a leather apron, sturdy gloves, and a distinctive blue bandana, embodying both the forge-worker and the nurturer, representing both creation and renewal.

The Great Tree exists as a massive, living entity within the Ever After, though not directly visualized in detail. It serves as the primordial origin point for the Brothers, with its branches and leaves symbolizing eternal growth, ascension, and the delicate balance of all existence. The Blacksmith functions as its avatar and voice, suggesting the Tree's form is both arboreal and omnipresent, existing throughout the fabric of the Ever After itself. In the RWBY universe, the fairy tales The Shallow Sea and The Judgment of Faunus introduce the God of Animals, a shapeshifting deity central to Faunus creation myths. Described with ram horns in The Shallow Sea and branching horns in The Judgment of Faunus, this figure's true existence remains ambiguous, as these traits mirror the God of Darkness and God of Light, respectively. The tales suggest the God of Animals may be a disguised manifestation of the Brother Gods, who created Remnant and its inhabitants. This duality fuels speculation that the myths obscure the Brothers' direct influence, blending their identities into a singular, enigmatic deity to explain the Faunus' origins, reflecting the broader theme of divine ambiguity in Remnant’s lore.

These physical manifestations underscore a clear progression from youthful, animal-like innocence (the fawn and lamb) to mature, draconic power for the Brothers, while the Blacksmith and Tree embody a harmonious blend of organic and mechanical elements that represents their role in forging balance.

Personalities and Philosophies

Each entity reflects distinct philosophical views on balance, with the Brothers representing oppositional forces while the others emphasize natural equilibrium:

The God of Light is characterized by his soft-spoken nature, strict adherence to order, and empathetic yet unyielding approach to maintaining cosmic balance. He values life above all else and prefers diplomatic solutions, often showing reluctance when destruction becomes necessary. This was evident when he turned away during Humanity's annihilation, unable to watch the consequences of their judgment. However, when rules are broken or manipulation occurs, he enforces punishment with harsh precision, such as cursing Salem with immortality as "poetic justice" for attempting to manipulate divine power. His tendency toward meaningful body language during interactions indicates a genuine desire to connect with his creations, despite his divine nature.

The God of Darkness presents a more volatile personality, being proud, temperamental, and theatrical in his expressions. He harbors a jealous streak, particularly regarding the worship and reverence his brother receives from their creations. While he genuinely enjoys destruction and finds satisfaction in his role as the force of entropy, he also demonstrates surprising loyalty and the capacity for humility, such as when he apologizes after retaliating against perceived slights. He shows fierce protectiveness toward his own creations, particularly the Grimm, and while quick to respond with aggression, he's also capable of recognizing and correcting his mistakes, as seen when he killed the resurrected Ozma upon realizing he had been manipulated.

The Blacksmith embodies a calm, kind, and motherly presence with a cryptic yet genuinely helpful demeanor. She represents infinite patience and practices non-intervention, viewing balance not as a conflict between opposing forces but as a self-restoring ecosystem that naturally finds its equilibrium. She finds joy in the act of creation and renewal, guiding others without forcing their choices or dictating their paths. Remarkably, she appreciates the Brothers' influence on the Ever After despite their fundamentally different philosophical approaches, showing a wisdom that embraces multiple perspectives.

The Great Tree can be inferred as embodying neutrality and nurturing, representing organic balance without the personality conflicts that define the Brothers. As the original source from which the Brothers emerged, it offers ascension and passage to a "greater beyond," suggesting the presence of a wise, impartial force that allows evolution and growth without judgment or interference.

The fundamental difference in their approaches becomes clear when examining their philosophies: the Brothers' eternal feud stems from differing views on creation and destruction (exemplified by their disagreement over the Jabberwalker's fate), leading to resentment and conflict until they found resolution in Humanity's creation. In contrast, the Blacksmith and Tree promote love, patience, and natural flow, offering a gentle critique of the Brothers' conflict-based approach to balance.

Powers and Divine Abilities

Their supernatural abilities highlight god-like omnipotence, with some overlapping powers but distinct specializations:

The God of Light commands the creation of life, animals, and elemental forces, wielding light-based energy capable of complete obliteration while maintaining precision that can erase targets without collateral damage. He can grant immortality, facilitate soul reincarnation across lifetimes, and create powerful artifacts like the Relics that embody fundamental concepts. His shapeshifting abilities allow transformation between humanoid and draconic forms, while his mastery over realm travel enables movement between dimensions. He also created the Afteran inhabitants and Acres within the Ever After. His specialization lies in life, order, and positive forces, with energy manipulation so precise he can erase beings like Ozma without affecting the surrounding environment. However, he remains bound by self-imposed rules and is not omniscient, often surprised by unexpected events and developments.

The God of Darkness wields destruction through concentrated dark energy blasts and maintains absolute control over the creation and command of Grimm. He possesses resurrection abilities, can manipulate matter and energy on fundamental levels, and shares his brother's shapeshifting and dimensional travel capabilities. His most devastating demonstrations include global-scale erasure such as Humanity's complete annihilation and the shattering of the moon. He specializes in death, chaos, and negative forces, capable of creating protective barriers and shields. However, he remains fallible to manipulation due to his jealous tendencies, which often lead to rash actions and poor judgment calls.

The Blacksmith, functioning as the Tree's avatar, can summon herself through mysterious fog, conjure items and weapons from nothing, and utilize apparition and teleportation abilities. She projects memories and experiences as tangible visions, creates portals to specific times and places, oversees the ascension process for those seeking transformation, and grants new forms and powers to those who undergo renewal. Her specialization focuses on transformation and guidance, possessing in-depth knowledge of events across multiple realms and timelines. Despite her vast abilities, she practices non-intervention and can be surprised by untimely ascensions, such as Ruby's unexpected arrival.

The Great Tree represents the origin point of the Brothers themselves, facilitating ascension for those ready to transcend their current existence and offering departure to realms described as the "greater beyond." Through its avatars, it shapes entire realms and creates replacements for departed entities, such as the Curious Cat for Light and the Jabberwalker for Darkness. Its specialization lies in equilibrium restoration and the creation of balance through replacement and renewal. However, its influence remains largely indirect, showing no capacity for direct combat or destruction.

The Brothers demonstrate near-omnipotent abilities, capable of world-building on the scale of Remnant and the Ever After Acres, with power extending into afterlife manipulation. Yet they remain fallible, as evidenced by Salem's successful manipulation. The Blacksmith's abilities focus primarily on renewal and transformation, creating an interesting contrast to the Brothers' creation-destruction duality. Collectively, these entities demonstrate that true cosmic power lies not in raw force but in understanding and maintaining balance, with the Tree serving as the ultimate source and foundation.

Roles in Lore and Interconnected Relationships

Origins and Cosmic Evolution: All four entities trace their existence back to the Ever After's Great Tree, where the Brothers emerged simultaneously, debunking the mythical narrative of a single dragon splitting into two. During their time in the Ever After, they shaped the realm by creating its Afteran inhabitants and establishing the Acres, but eventually outgrew their birthplace. Before departing to explore realms beyond, they created replacements: the Curious Cat to represent Light's aspects and the Jabberwalker to embody Darkness's nature. This pattern of abandonment becomes a recurring theme, as they later abandon Remnant after Humanity's rebellion, seemingly ignoring the consequences of their departure, including the Cat's heartbreak and Salem's cursed immortality.

The Remnant Era: When the Brothers moved to create Remnant, they established Humanity as a compromise between their opposing natures, granting magical abilities and embedding four fundamental gifts within Relics that represent Choice, Creation, Destruction, and Knowledge. Their eventual departure following Humanity's rebellion resulted in the moon's shattering, complete eradication of the human population (while sparing the Grimm), and the establishment of Ozma's eternal redemption quest. The true events became obscured over time, transformed into myths such as "The Animal God" and "The Two Brothers," which portray them as shapeshifters or even as living continents.

The Blacksmith and Tree's Continuing Role: Operating as the Tree's avatar, the Blacksmith oversees the ascension process—a form of rebirth that differs fundamentally from the Brothers' rigid approach to balance. She guides individuals like Ruby and the Herbalist through transformation, viewing the Brothers' past interventions as "marvelous changes" that brought positive evolution to the Ever After. Her philosophy presents a direct critique of the Brothers' methodology: she sees balance not as eternal conflict between opposing forces but as a living, breathing ecosystem that naturally restores itself through love, patience, and understanding.

Complex Relationship Dynamics: The Brothers maintain loyalty to each other despite their philosophical rivalry, with Light often serving as the elder mediator while Darkness takes on the role of reactive protector. Their most significant conflict arose over the fate of the Jabberwalker—Light believed destruction was necessary for maintaining balance, while Darkness viewed this as unfairly punishing their collective mistake in its creation. This fundamental disagreement was eventually resolved through their shared creation of Humanity.

The relationship between the Brothers and the Blacksmith/Tree represents a generational philosophical shift. The Tree, having birthed the Brothers, watches their evolution with patience, while the Blacksmith appreciates their legacy without pledging direct allegiance, highlighting a transition from conflict-based balance to harmony-based equilibrium.

Regarding their relationships with creations, the Brothers maintain an unfortunate pattern of detachment. They create worlds and inhabitants, then abandon them when conflicts arise, curse those who attempt manipulation (Salem's immortality), and assign redemption tasks to others (Ozma's mission) without providing adequate ongoing support. This pattern of abandonment breeds resentment and vengeance, as exemplified by the Curious Cat's eventual desire for revenge against his creators.

Thematic Significance and Modern Relevance

These divine entities embody RWBY's core thematic explorations in multiple interconnected ways:

Competing Concepts of Balance: The fundamental difference between the Brothers' approach and that of the Blacksmith/Tree illuminates different philosophical approaches to cosmic harmony. The Brothers perceive balance as an eternal opposition between light and dark, creation and destruction, requiring constant vigilance and intervention. In contrast, the Blacksmith and Tree understand balance as an organic equilibrium that naturally restores itself through love, patience, and the natural flow of existence. This contrast provides a subtle critique of rigid, authoritarian approaches to divinity and cosmic order.

Creation Versus Responsibility: The Brothers demonstrate immense creative power but struggle with the responsibilities that come with creation. They build worlds, establish life, and grant abilities, but when conflicts arise or their creations disappoint them, they choose abandonment over continued guidance. This creates cascading consequences: the Grimm continue to plague Remnant, Salem's immortal curse drives ongoing conflict, and the Curious Cat's heartbreak leads to vengeful corruption. The Tree's approach, nurturing evolution and growth without demanding specific outcomes, suggests that true divinity involves guidance without control.

The Fallibility of Divine Beings: None of these entities claim omniscience or infallibility. The Brothers can be manipulated through their emotional vulnerabilities, the Blacksmith expresses surprise at unexpected events like Ruby's untimely ascension, and even the Great Tree works through avatars rather than direct intervention. This humanization of divine figures emphasizes the importance of free will and suggests that even cosmic powers must respect individual choice and growth.

Legacy and the Consequences of Abandonment: The recurring theme of departure and abandonment creates power vacuums that lead to mythologization, rebellions, and endless quests for redemption. In the context of RWBY's ongoing narrative (particularly post-Volume 9), this connects to the series' exploration of personal growth, responsibility, and the courage to face challenges without relying on external divine intervention, as demonstrated through Ruby's ascension experience.

Conclusion

These four divine entities drive RWBY's complex mythology, successfully blending traditional creation myths with profound philosophical depth. The Brothers represent classical godly power—awe-inspiring and transformative yet fundamentally flawed by their emotional limitations and tendency toward abandonment. Meanwhile, the Blacksmith and Tree offer a more empathetic, evolutionary alternative that emphasizes natural growth, patient guidance, and the restoration of balance through love rather than conflict.

Once my brain has alighted upon a subject, it often does not let it go until ever stone is unturned.  After writing about the impossible task the God of Light had placed upon Ozma, I went to bed, and immediately a new thought popped into my head.

Ozma will never die.

He can not ask or promise Salem to die with him, because she was not part of the conditions from the God of Light.  The conditions were to bring humanity together so that they could live in harmony with one another.

Ozpin/Ozma could *lie* to Salem, sending her to the Afterlife alone to wait for his return (if that is even possible).  But I think it is beyond that.  He told her everything in his first incarnation, so she KNOWS he can not die until harmony is united.

Oh...my...god...  everything makes sense.

She can never die as long as she never accepts death.  He can never die unless humanity is basically united in harmony.  She will NEVER accept death now.  She will keep the world divided and continue to be the antagonist to his efforts so that they can stay living in this world, even if it means they will forever be separated by war.

Jinn said in the Lost Fable that Salem became a being of infinite life with a desire for pure destruction, but was she really

Remember, Salem was able to live a quiet, normal life away from humanity.  She was able to love Ozma even in his new form.  She was motherly and doting upon her children.  All of this naturally.  Even now, she would send her servants away so as not to destroy them when in a fit of rage.

Ozma is her heart.  His very existence destroys her and yet keeps her from becoming truly Grimm.  She is a walking contradiction of the forces of destruction that house her and her own humanity.  A being with nothing but a desire for destruction can not, by its very nature, be motherly or loving.

However, this means she is constantly fighting herself.  She loses control a lot, she succumbs to the darkness within her a lot.  She killed her own children and Ozma in a fit of rage, for example.  She is obviously coming to wreak havoc upon the kingdom of Atlas as well.  She absolutely HATES Ozma/Ozpin to the core.

And loves him just as much.

That book Blake was reading way back in V1 wasn't about Ozma/Ozpin--it was about Salem.  Ozma never really tried to dominate his hosts, they kind of merged together over time, but Salem is the one fighting another soul within herself.

She knows that Ozma will never die unless humanity is living in harmony.  If she dies, she will be alone in the afterlife--forever, probably.  Jinn said a few times, Salem understood that the hearts of men were easily swayed.  And this was from the very beginning when the Gods were in charge.

Never has there been a love story so tragic as Ozma and Salem.  The gods royally screwed them both over, but I think Ozma got the worst of it.

The final battle won't be against Salem.  It will be against the gods.  And Salem wants them to come because it may well be the only way to break the curse upon both of them.  If the gods come and wipe out all of humanity because they continue to fight amongst themselves, Ozma will die.  He will have no way to reincarnate and will go to the afterlife.  Either Salem will also die among them, or she will be able to accept death and finally kill herself.

The only way for Salem and Ozma to finally be together is to destroy all of humanity.  Not just that, but the Gods have to be the ones to do it.  If she destroys humanity on her own, it would be useless.  Humans are like cockroaches and will return.  She does not have the power to destroy the whole world in one blow, making it impossible for any human to return.  But the Gods do.  The God of Light said it himself: the WORLD would be destroyed.  Not just humanity.  He would make sure they could never come back again.

Salem has been waiting all this time, trying to first figure out how to collect the maidens powers and manipulate events to her advantage so that she can gather the relics, get the gods to destroy the world, and finally be with Ozma in the afterlife.

That also explains why, when asked how he could destroy Salem, Jinn said he couldn't.  The conditions the gods set were ever against Ozma's ability to succeed.  As long as Ozma lives, Salem will never accept death.  It's twistedly beautiful.

While it seems like a hopeless situation, it isn't.  There are many ways around all of this.  If the only people in the world who can use magic team up together and defeat the Gods, their curses could well be lifted on both of them.  But that still means endangering all of the world to do it as well as convincing Salem to join with them.  Ozma can still lie to Salem and convince her to accept death (after the Grimm is cleansed) and send her to the afterlife.  There is no telling what a being with powers like hers can do from the afterlife and might lead to a whole new arc, but it is a possibility.

They could summon the gods and try to convince them to renegotiate the situation, but I really doubt that would work in any setting.  The gods are jerks, especially the God of Light.

A lot of people suggest sealing Salem away in one of the Vaults, or up in space.  They fail to understand that sealing any great evil away is merely putting a bandaid on the problem.  It guarantees the escape of said evil being, who will be hell-bent on revenge, and possibly more crazy than before since they lost all human contact.   Cinder is a walking example of people willing to break her out or seek her again.  Plus, while we know that the vaults can keep stuff out, we do not know how much they keep IN.  .

Sealing Salem away could work as a temporary fix, but only if it is possible to get humans to live together in harmony.  Since even the gods of Light and Dark could not accomplish this (see my previous post), the odds are looking like that is not an option.  But it would pan out the series well, using new generations in a new arc to try and get the countries to set aside their difference and such.  It would become more political and societal at that point, like Game of Thrones or something... which....well, that was not a good comparison.  Game of Thrones merely emphasizes how hopeless it is to get humans to live in harmony.

I think it would help to know what the cut-off level is for harmony and fighting amongst themselves.  If the God of Light was referring to a perfect, utopian world: Ozma is screwed.  If he meant the majority, with the minority being ignore, Ozma has a chance.

Of course, you could always kill off the majority of people, reduce them to manageable levels where there is a higher likelihood of harmony and call in the gods to take over at that point.  Ozma would never do that, not in a million years.  For him, it is an unnacceptable option, and I completely understand.  But I mention it as an option because it has been proven that large numbers of people tend to generate more conflict because of space, resources, and individuality.

He could go the State route and just military law everything into an Orwellian future with thought-police at every corner.  Yeah...that didn't turn out well for 1984, either (back of the book strongly indicates that in the future, that society no longer existed).

Melisandre, the red priestess

Inuit mythology tells of Ignirtoq, the God of Light, whose radiance broke through the endless Arctic darkness to provide warmth, hope, and life itself. To the Inuit people, his presence was not just divine but essential, a guiding beacon that maintained harmony in the natural world. Today, Ignirtoq’s myth remains a symbol of resilience, reminding us that light always emerges from darkness, no matter how endless it may seem. His legend is both spiritual and deeply human, bridging the past with lessons still relevant to modern life.