Wait do people actually think the ending of ii 17 is bad? Guys not only is it not the finale but erm... I like it. I actually really like it. Sure it's tragic and anticlimactic but that doesn't make it bad. To me. If this is the end of ii (which honestly I doubt) I think it's a solid ending. It doesn't feel unfinished or rushed or anything. Just cause something is open ended doesn't mean it's bad. I like that it's tragic. I like that I felt my stomach drop when the credits started rolling. Oh waiter more internal agony please ‼️‼️
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the whole class divide issue is almost nonexistent in wind and truth. i do not remember eye color being brought up once. this is a problem because of how prevalent it was in the first and second books, how important this injustice was made out to be. multiple characters suffered underneath this system, mainly kaladin, one of the main characters.
with the amount of focus brandon sanderson put on this issue within the alethi, i had at least hoped it could be discussed in-universe, mb people could start taking steps toward dismantling it. but idk i guess the giant world-shattering fight against the evil shadow creatures of doom and their ill-intentioned god was more fun to write about
So I just randomly had this thought after I was looking through some old chats and my Tony had called me darling (I don’t mind) and I was like, “what if Tony didn’t actually adopt Jazmine and she kinda just lives at the tower and she somehow gets feelings for Tony and he does too?”
sooooo what do y’all think? Weird or not? Because you know Tony’s like 40 or something (don’t judge) and Jazmines 115-something but physically she looks like 18, and honestly I think it’s fine but idk
Gonna add my two cents to the confusion on the definition to tragedy and leave at that.
This is in reference to the whole "geto is/isnt a tragic character"
I, for one, believe that this anon stating that geto isn't a tragic character because he had made the choice to commit mass genocide is completely wrong and possibly misinformed on the definition of tragedy.
There are two different types of tragedy that we have to keep in mind. Natural disaster which is a tragedy that no one has a choice in and this title can be given to anything out of ones control.
Then you have the type of tragedy that is caused by choice of one or more people.
We're going to use hamlet and shakespere as an example mostly because shakespere, in my opinion and from my theatrical classes, was one of the masters of tragedy. He made it into an art!
Sure Romeo and Juliet could be an example of tragedy by choice but that only involved the forbidden love and the double suicide.
Hamlet on the other hand is a tragedy of personal choices and philosophies made by not only hamlet himself but other characters within the play.
Hamlet quite literally drove himself, and others, to madness by the strings of choices he had conciously made in the story.
The chain reaction is started by the death of his father, a choice made by claudius who murdered him for power.
Hamlet chose to lie, manipulate, and even murder to prove and even kill his uncle Claudius and prove he murdered his father for power. Hamlet drove himself, and others insane to make this point. He murdered polonius, by choice, because he thought it was claudius who hid behind the drapes. He pretty much said "Op, not my uncle. Time to go"
This drives ophelia insane, which mind you she was well on her way there thanks to Hamlet's erratic behaviour and lack of care/affection towards her, and she drowns herself.
Claudius makes the choice to use ophelia's brother's greif for his gain and convinces him that it was Hamlet's fault. (Which technically it was) and to murder his nephew.
Claudius nade the choice to poison Laretes (Ophelias brother) blade. He also made the choice to have a goblet of poison as back up.
Gertrude is poisoned by drinking the goblet, laretes dies from Hamlets poisoned blade, hamlet is dying from laretes blade, claudius died by double poison via hamlet and the goblet, the hamlet dies.
You're welcome for the (shitty/rushed) summary of Hamlet. The play is considered a tragedy because an entire kingdom was murdered, by each other no less, from choices nade by the characters. They were either gonna die by their own downfall or from the invading kingdom that happened upon their bodies shortly after death.
I can get into a whole philosophical debate about hamlet because hes such a complex character, theres even a debate that he wasnt actually insane and was aware of what he was doing but thats for another day.
Hamlet would have to be the closest parallel to geto I can make because their both similar in a way.
Their both emotionally, mentally, and physically traumatized men who were willing to do anything to make their point and get to their goal. That in itself is a tragedy. If you want to add onto this you can.
And like I said, I did give a shitty and rushed summary of the play Hamlet so I did leave out a lot of important details thats in the play so I fully encourage everyone to read or watch the play. Its an amazing piece of artwork thats complicated but easily gets the point of revenge and tragic death across.
As an end note; there are different types of tragedies and its good to understand those first before trying to state that something isn't a tragedy simply because the person who faced it made a choice. Trying to say a complex character like geto isnt a tragic character makes no sense to me. Without giving away any spoilers I really suggest reading the manga to its current issue because then will you see how tragic of a character geto is. That includes volume 0; its why the movie was so important to the anime because it explains the reveal in the manga perfectly.
I’m procrastinating studying for my uni exams by trying to finish the fic i’ve been writing about my warden for like 3 years. But thing is the ending i planned is not the ending i need right now and certainly not the one i feel like these characters deserve so i’m really torn about it all.
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i'm sorry but i simply think that if the alethi are uncomfortable with men reading adn women eating spicy foods they would not just. be that chill w trans people
I FUCKING HATE BEING AN ONEYPLAYS FAN. EVERYTIME I LIKE SOMEONE'S ART I THINK "y'know what lemme see their other works" AND NEXT THING I KNOW THEY'RE DRAWING THEM KISSING AND BUTTFUCKING PASSIONATELY. I just want to see silly fanart of the funny men that talk about tiny creatures and jelqing and funny haha diarrhea feces while playing video games. Not have to see them giving each other rimjobs. Like can you go and talk to a real human being in person. Ik telling Oneyplays fans to go outside is futile but boy do the rpf motherfuckers need it. BADLY. Their stench can wake the dead.
i finished wind and truth (the fifth stormlight archive book), and to be honest, i feel disappointed with it. this wasn’t a satisfying conclusion to the series for me, especially since it was such a pain to get through in the first place.
(rant incoming) (spoilers ahead!)
in the past, i’ve fine with these longer books. i really enjoyed the first few in the series, and i didnt have much trouble getting through them, despite each book being over a thousand pages.
but that’s probably because these actually had things going on in them.
with wind and truth, for about 75% the time the plot was just slowly, painfully, inching its way forward, that i honestly couldn’t read more than a few chapters at a time before i had to put it down. the book is 1,329 pages— it feels like this page count could easily be halved if brandon sanderson would just be a tad more efficient with the time he gives himself in this book.
take, for example, shallan’s plotline, which was probably the most useless thing the entire book.
another issue that caused such a bloated page count is brandon sanderson trying to do too much. there are so many plot lines happening—azir, the shattered plains, szeth’s pilgrimage, dalinar’s search for the power of honor through the spiritual realm (which is entirely separate from rlain and renarin’s search for ba-ado-mishram in the spiritual realm, which is entirely separate from shallan’s hunt for the ghostbloods in the spiritual realm)—not to even mention all the random things going on in the interludes. like, for instance the irali just randomly all following cusicesh through a portal, never to be seen again. there’s just so much going on.
and the thing is, half of these things don’t even end up mattering at the end.
like, when odium talks to battah, the herald, in one of the visions. it seems like it’s going to be super important, and greatly affect something later down the line. but she’s mentioned, like, twice by name after this, and only in visions. this scene does nothing.
and to bring up the irali again: one would think that, you know, the disappearance of an entire people group would raise some eyebrows. but again, this is a thing solely for the interludes.
when renarin and rlain release ba-ado-mishram, she literally just goes off somewhere. nothing happens. todium doesn’t even care.
szeth’s journey has no impact on literally anything. shinovar has been, at best, unimportant, this entire series. maybe if them being under ishar actually affected anything within the war, it would be noteworthy. however, they’re not doing much in books 1-4, so their status doesn’t do anything in book 5
also, szeth’s backstory was kind of boring ngl. i didn’t find any of the people in his backstory, or shinovar in general, particularly compelling.
the thing that bothers me the most, however, is moash. he has been such a major antagonist for kaladin in the previous books. i don’t really want to go into an in-depth analysis of the two right now, but i just want to say: it’s criminal that these two never interact this book. it makes me want to shake brandon sanderson.
kaladin literally is in his therapist arc right now, who is now called the Herald of Second Chances (dumb name, could’ve been the Herald of Redemption) and you’re telling me he doesn’t get to have an gripping internal conflict about his broken relationship with this man?
he wasn’t able to grapple with if moash, who has sided with the enemy murdered some of his best friends, is also deserving of redemption and healing??
and moash wasn’t able to reject this offer of a second chance, thus ultimately proving himself as a tragic character??
i’m sorry but anything would’ve been so much more interesting than Kaladin Fixes Everyone and Moash Just Kinda Likes Murdering People
and i have considered the fact that "oh! he's setting up things for the next five books of the series! you just have to watch it play out!" the thing is, though, is that he's advertising this final book as the end of an arc. you would expect that this would at least feel a bit final. it's fine to set up things for the next arc, but it has to be more like "oh, there's more to come, more to suffer, but this stage is done, and i have grown as a person."
i think the ending of kaladin's arc does that concept well, as his basically says, "well, we will still have to return to roshar and fight once more, but we have fought so much, and now we must rest and recover." the war isn't over, but at least this part of his journey is. this ending feels, in some sense, final.
but it really does not feel that way across the entire thing, what with all the hanging plot threads just left there. it's just. i feel as though wind and truth isn't a satisfying end to this series. you shouldn't be trying to start plot lines in the same book that you're also supposed to be ending everything.