#fusion powers

Question; in Miraculous apprentice, the Lb+Bc power can work but.only on non-organic stuff.

Can it redo the whole universe? Is Gimmi still a factor, or only the user can use the power to their desire?

Since you vety firmly established that there the Peacock -while in itself can't- merged with other Miraculous can effect organic life fully, even creatong Adrien as a living; fusing it in with the previous too, could it grant recrestion of organic matter?

Does Apprentice Miraculous have some set rules for the outfit (some creator set more firm rules) or just as cannon, it can be any ways?

Hm…. The minimal spoiler answer is that you should take the fusion powers I listed at face value. They do exactly what I said they do—no more and no less. Also, yes, you can combine multiple miraculous powers for stronger fusions, but it’s pretty risky to the person/people doing it, and the results can be, let’s say… unpredictable.

Ladybug/Butterfly fusion power: Power Charm (Creates a superpowered object.)

Black Cat/Butterfly fusion power: Exorcism (Allows user to destroy a superpowered object.)

Peacock/Butterfly fusion power: Amok (Allows user to create an Amok, which is a super powered proxy of sorts that the user can control from a distance.)

Fox/Butterfly fusion power: Fantasy (Gives someone illusory superpowers/fake superpowers.)

Turtle/Butterfly fusion power: Barrier (Shields user from magical manipulation.)

Bee/Butterfly fusion power: Invigorate (Allows users to siphon strength from another individual.)

Mouse/Butterfly fusion power: Infantry (Allows user to create multiple akumas at once, though they become less powerful the more are released.)

Ox/Butterfly fusion power: NA

Tiger/Butterfly: Anthem (Grants the user a song that enhances the powers of all superpowered individuals that hear it. The effects wear off when the user stops singing.) 

Rabbit/Butterfly fusion power: Override (Replaces a individual’s power/stamina with that of their future self)

Dragon/Moth fusion: Amplify (Perfects the abilities of other Miraculous holders, making them stronger.)

Snake/Butterfly fusion power: Limit (Allows user to reset another individual’s powers, allowing them to use those powers again)

Horse/Butterfly fusion power: Flight (Allows user to transfer an individual’s powers to someone else.)

Goat/Butterfly: Simulate (Allows user to swap the powers of an individual with those from an alternate reality)

Monkey/Butterfly: Wager (Allows user to grant an individual a random superpower)

Rooster/Butterfly fusion power: Sublimation (allows the user to give themselves new powers)

Dog/Butterfly fusion power: Siphon (Allows user to send out butterflies that can transfer the powers of another individual to them.)

Pig/Butterfly fusion power: Wish (Allows user to gift someone the powers they want most)

Was reading apprentice powers, and have a few questions;

1. Whatdo you mean by a shadow " can’t grant that being supernatural abilities that are not directly connected to the creature’s biology"? Like... If you were create a Shadow Cat noir, could it use Cataclysm? Or not, since that's not biological? But a Shadow Plagg could? I mean... In a word where magic is in place, it's a bit hard to define what's biological... Like ... Feast's anatomy can be explained with magic anatomy, but physicly impossible, so...?

2. Tbh, it's a bit... Strange that the Fox can't place Mirage on themselfe... Why is that? I'm just ... Please don't take it wrong, but just weirded out, because (1. I'm tired today, sorry, everything is weird😅) 2. It's not a limit in the show, and why themself would be an exception? 3. Going by the name, wouldn't it make more sence that they can put an illusion ON anything, but they need a base to make SOMETHING look like something else? And maybe with the Peacock, it wouldn't need a base, but could act on their own (well, while still being basicly non-existant)...

3. How the goat works? Does it need to be a media, or what kind of realities, could you please give an example? ... Personally, I would simply make it that the Goat can put someone to sleep and than limitlessly manipulate dream, but can't do anyting in the real word (at least not with this power....)

Really hope I wasn't a fuchebag with my wording, as I said, I'm a bit tired currently, if I was, sincerer appology of mine, I did not intended to! Have a lovely day anyway and don't mind my tone, you have noting to do with it, you are a lovely person 😘💜

No worries. I’m a bit tired myself right now.

First things first—none of the powers are 100% finalized at this point, and there are a few details that carried over from old planning of the powers. For the Fox, the reason that particular detail exists was because I initially planned on a fusion that would act as personal camouflage… not sure if that fusion power is still a thing or not. (There’s a lot to keep track of.) So that’s why that one is there.

For the peacock, I know the wording is confusing, but basically it has to be technically possible within the laws of physics—like a chameleon changing color to blend in with a wall or the ability to fly, or something being super strong or super fast. Nothing metaphysical though, like teleporting or flying without wings or turning completely invisible. I wanted to reserve that for a fusion between the Peacock and Butterfly. The reason I added the condition of powers being a part of the biology was because shadows don’t necessarily have to be real. Just plausible I guess. (I’ll probably revisit that later to make it less confusing.)

How does the Miraculous Ladybug works in Apprantice story?

I'm asking, because I frequently hear that it really throws off the ballance in cannon, and I have to agree. Personally, my version would be; LB throwing the Lucky charm charm can creat, so bringing back stuff that went away or fix dammage. And Cat noir by dipping his ring in the ashes of Cataclys could make thing dissapear or clear memories from unwanted stuff.

And I would make the iconic "Pound it!" kinda a power too, basicly just combining the two and fixing everything perfectly, creating and destroying everything!

What doyou think of this?

Also, bonus fun fact for reading it trough;

Miraculous Ladybug has 8 way spread, while Miraculous Cat noir has 13. Both are numbers considered respectivly lucky and unlucky, and I think it's no coincidence😃!

Mild Miraculous Apprentice spoilers ahead—if you don’t want any of that, don’t read this.

So this is a great question, and the answer is that Miraculous Ladybug and Miraculous Cat Noir don’t exist!—at least, not separately. See, in canon the original miraculous Ladybug power was able to re-create and fix everything that was broken, right? Sort of like an Undo button.

Well, in Miraculous Apprentice, that’s exactly what the combined fusion power of the Ladybug and Black Cat does—Hence the name of the power “Miraculous!” See, fusion powers work in this universe even when both miraculous aren’t held by the same person. It can be difficult, as both users need to have the intention of using said power, and takes some concentration, so it’s rarely doable in the heat of battle; however fusion powers between separate holders can work regardless of whether the users have already expended their own miraculous’s power. (Example: Ladybug can use her Lucky charm, and Chat can use his Cataclysm, and they’ll both still be able to use their combined “miraculous” power at the end of the fight to fix everything.) Doing fusion powers this way also lessens the load placed on each individual, as they’re only supplying half the energy to make the power work.

So with that being said—how DOES Miraculous work? In order to fix things, something must be given up in exchange. This is where Ladybug’s Lucky Charm comes into play. Basically Chat and Lady take hold of her charm, focus together on fixing the damage caused by the city, say the word “Miraculous!” In unison and the Lucky charm disintegrates in exchange for the city being fixed.

Kagami too, she would be literally just the face of the company, as Tomoe is loud about she will be the air of her company (meanwhile she only looking for someone who csn take over controlling Kagami, as the real head of the operation.)

No, they would not be living beings here, for example, Kagami -to keep the "real kid" image- would be told to "ackt normal", but the main thing she would do is mirror the behavior of her surounding!

*side tension; I love this idea, becsuse "kagami" translstes to mirror, and mirroring the surounding's behaviour is a basik instincts, so would work perfectly well. Would even make sence she is a perfect student, as she literally copies the right anwser, because the teacher already told it previously!😅 And she would still "ackt" distant, but would be popular how agreeable this is... Again, mirror, as mirroring her companion's behavior, and that is often a complimenting thing... "Copying is the highest form of admirarion, after all! (I translated this saying by my head, so might be incorrect😅)

I know this might not be true and they would be actual peaple in the story, but I really like the idea of these hadows and their "personalities" be literally just mirrors and projections of others... I love human psyche😅

Few questions about Apprentice Au. shadows;

Can they exist as long as the object isn't dammaged or the peacock doesn't remove the feather, right ? They don't disapear by default at detransformation?

And only function under direct order, right? They became dorment, when not puppeted?

Would they be still active if nobody posessed their object and control their actions, but still have a previous, unfinished task? Or they can operate toward an objective as long as it's either unfinished, they get an other command or told to stop?

Okay, major spoilers for Miraculous Apprentice ahead, so if y’all don’t want those, DON’T READ THIS! Anyways, with that being said, let’s get into this:

So to answer the question about Adrien—He was not made with an object to house his amok. Since it is a fusion with the Ladybug miraculous, he himself is the “object” housing the amok, which acts as his emotional core and holds his body together.

As for Felix and Kagami, You’re half right on both counts: Kagami is a normal human, (though I do think your idea sounds pretty neat, it’s not the direction I ended up going,) but Felix is a Shadow. However, he was the first Shadow created using the broken Peacock miraculous, and so some of the power of the Ladybug had transferred during the creation of Adrien—as a result, Felix is partially autonomous. For most of the time he is the perfect Persona/Shadow for his mother, and acts as he was made to. Every once in a while, however, his mind becomes human and sentient, enough for him to understand what he is and know there is something deeply wrong with him. Unlike most shadows, he can still act and think without someone else controlling his amok. In essence, he is more or less what Sentimonsters are in the cannon show, rather than how they usually work in the Apprentice universe. His goal in the beginning of the show is to claim the peacock miraculous and use it to fix himself. When that doesn’t work, he turns villain and teams up with Chrysalis to capture the other miraculous, in hopes of finding a way to do with them what the Peacock could not. (And yes, Chrysalis would ABSOLUTELY abuse his Amok and use it to make Felix do what she wants.) Eventually he decides to embrace his human half rather than the half that is a shadow, and decides that fixing himself means being freed from his amok.

Felix has been a really fun character to write for me. I’m leaning towards having a mixture of the dragon, Peacock and Black Cat being the power combination that finally frees him from his connection to the ring, since that would pay a nice homage to the senti-kid trio from cannon. (I think it would be cute if Chat, Ryuko and Argos together broke the connection together.) :) In this case, Adrien understands what it feels like to see yourself as less than human, and Kagami understands how it feels to have others in control of your life and have all your decisions made for you.

I get this question a lot--I'm really hoping when I eventually get around to posting the Ox powers it will help make what I'm doing a bit more obvious. But for now, the simple answer the Ox miraculous' powers cancel out other miraculous' powers when combined with them in a fusion.