You said they’ve been hinting that something’s coming in a way they haven’t before. I haven’t noticed this - how have they hinted?
not quite babylove, i'm saying the only other time time they had a similar pattern of behavior they came out individually—and this time it appears to be focused on their relationship!
to list out overall increasingly openness about their relationship would take a long time, because i would mark dan using a red heart emoji when posting about phil's birthday in 2023 as the start point, & they've been slowly boiling us for all of the gaming channel return. (frog theory / boiling terminology explainer).
there's been a marked increase of like. incidents? for lack of a better word? since the start of april. i'm sure i'm missing things.
handholding in dapc
even more handholding in PJ's behind the scenes video
the amount of clothes sharing also taking place in that behind the scenes video
handholding being put on merch, instagram grid posts & MULTIPLE stories, and acknowledged in non dapc channel videos (iirc?)
we've never fucked ON YOUTUBE -> implication that they have fucked
both of them go to the isle of man to visit the lesters. IMPORTANT.
we get to see more of their home than they've ever shown us in two separate videos back to back in a way that shows they're intentionally opening up
"rpf is fine"-phil lester
phil's earnest support of WAD being replied to with an ORANGE heart and then dan calling that gay ON YOUTUBE?
immediately followed by a public triple date
dan's solo endeavors era has arrived at a very neat conclusion -> they came out after ii ended so there's a precedent
we also have tweets from dan explicitly mentioning that something is coming soon in a way that fits the same pattern as their coming out in 2019 (link).
basically every elder phannie (not an age thing, a "how long have you been around" thing) i am aware of is losing their mind with anticipation and thinks a hard launch is in the works. i have mutuals i haven't seen in months if not YEARS posting on my dash. and i've been on marriage hill forever but quite honestly the thing that has me the most convinced is nora agreeing that it's realistic.
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phil confirming he and dan weren't high or drunk at all in the final feud LMAO fucking. vindication. people were so obnoxious about that but #vindication for the they had the sleepy sillies and were horny take. me n aries remain never wrong
me and den, gathering all the anxious phannies into our big strong lesbian arms with the newest version of the predictions doc this weekend: shhh you are safe now
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Just what you said in your post! "the first christmas where they publicly spent that much time together" did they usually keep quiet about where they were?
i can't speak to the 2014-16 era because i fell out of touch with the fandom at that time, but i was absolutely around during 2017 & 18. both of those years marked HUGE shifts, and both of those huge shifts came at the tail end of gamingmas/dilmas. you can check out my original frog theory post and my frog theory tag for elaboration on the function of gamingmas irt all of this. as just like. prerequisite framework reading.
ANYWAYS. the thing that was such a big deal was that dan was openly visiting the lesters with phil. yes, you can visit friends' families during the holidays. but it's much more frequently something you do with a significant other. so the ruckus was because dan and phil knew the conclusions people would jump to if we knew dan visited the lesters at christmas, and they still let us know that it happened.
(this got disgustingly long, so i'm putting the rest of this post under the cut.)
part of what made that such a big deal was having that happen after the no homo/closet era, the "we're not together we're not even that close of friends we're just roommates" era. the significance of their trust & openness was MUCH more tangibly felt. a way larger percent of the fandom at that time had been present when the vday video leaked/had joined shortly afterwards when that was one of the biggest things impacting both phandom culture and our relationship with dnp.
so in 2017 when we got a glimpse of dan up north at the lesters' in a couple of cornelia's instagram stories? we lost our fucking minds about it. it was only 2 (i think) background cameos, but it was quite literally unprecedented. it's not something that qualifies as openly spending time together at the holidays because of the method throug which we found out about it, but like. there's no way they didn't know that cornelia was posting those, and no way that they didn't know we'd know about it.
when i say we, i mean dedicated phannies. people who could possibly be reading this post, not casual subscribers to the gaming channel. because when it comes to casual viewers, or even people who aren't a part of dan and phil's usual audience at all? there's a lot of methods of communication that they just plain aren't paying attention to and won't be aware of.
the most direct, permanent methods dan and phil have for communicating are videos on either of their individual channels or on dan and phil games, and after that is instagram grid posts or tweets, as well as videos on their side channels. twitter replies, insta stories, livestreams, and their public likes on any social media platform? those are for a more private audience. their appearances in other people's posts reaches a similarly small audience.
knowing that they were starting to be more and more open through the communication channels only open between them and dedicated fans, and that it was a trend - december 2017 is also when phil, in a liveshow, read out someone's "you and dan are so married" comment and just.. laughingly said "it-it's a useful thing". (link to gifs of that). it wasn't a one-off. it was a trend.
and compared to 2018, it was dust. they spent the whole year becoming increasingly open with us, through increasingly direct methods. it was a whirlwind. even for people who've watched all the videos and liveshows, you don't have the whole picture. the onslaught was coming at us from every angle at all moments. you'd have to also explore the full archives of social media posts, insta stories, meet and greets , social media likes, and like.. the archived recordings of every interactive introverts tour date. it was batshit.
it was genuinely one of the most insane years of my life. i was having physical symptoms. we all knew what was coming, we all could tell they were working up towards coming out, but nobody wanted to trust that we were right about that. my dashboard was regularly at a fever pitch.
and december 2018 was the culmination of everything. and then they were talking directly to us in a liveshow and being. insanely open. they told us that dan was going with phil to visit the lesters. and they told us that pinof was ending. and then dilmas started dropping, aggressively cementing the fact that dab and evan were sim-universe proxies for dnp, while dan and phil posted instagram grid and story updates about visiting the lesters. and then dab and evan came home to the howlter house for the holidays. and got engaged.
and then they went on hiatus, and we pretty much did not hear from dan until he came out.
the point is. we knew there was a fucking insane energy. we KNEW something big was coming. we fucking knew. it was a two year build up to dan and phil being the most publicly gay they'd ever been on the gaming channel and every single other platform - and part of that insanity was them being open about dan visiting the lesters, which coincided with them having their proxy sims get gay engaged while visiting family.
"did they usually keep quiet about where they were?" anon, the last time before all this that they had openly acknowledged dan visiting the lesters during the holidays was 2009.
the way they were acting over christmas of 2018 had me experiencing shrimp emotions to such an intense degree i was having verifiable psychic visions.
was it u (forgive me if not) who had the theory that dnp celebrate their anniversary in april/may and not october bcs of when they tend to go on holiday... bcs this recent vacation fits into that theory... esp since tit actually interfered with their 15 yrs
it was me! you can find deets in my anniversary theory tag. however. phil slipped early during the run of tit and said december would be 15 years of dan and phil (source).
which like. december lines up perfectly with the week of the uma thurman tweet/nature boy dailybooth post. which i went on about at length here before phil even dropped the december comment.
so i don't think i was entirely off the mark with my theory—i think that the blackpool trip was them observing the six month anniversary of when they first met, and i think japhan was a follow up to that and their ongoing tradition of springtime trips follows that loosley too?
but i think they put a label on it that week in december, and i think that's when they count their anniversary from <3
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no but they're literally getting married. like. i already thought they were getting married pre pandemic but i think the pandemic and phil's health issues made it more real for them. i don't think they want to risk not having that kind of legal protection in a hospital situation and i don't think they want to die without being married. the time just hasn't been right. they're making it the right time. that's why they're boiling us.
JUNE WEDDING june wedding jUUUNE WEdding!!! i'm telling youuuuu
i'm putting my money on an october wedding but i am so fucking down to be proven wrong <3 i think we might get a dan gender reveal/relationship hard launch this june though.
