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I am extremely interested in practicing Kemeticism and came across the KO and Dr. Sidua? And the official site claimed she has the kingly ka?

The thing is I am staunchly anti monarchy (especially the modern day version) and well it made me think if my stance on monarchy would well...not sit well with the gods?

I apologise if i come off as ignorant or silly but it is something i wished to know.

regarding Siuda, my understanding is that she did the rituals that you'd undergo to become a king in antiquity, and that's where the "has the kingly ka" comes into play.

as for the gods, ime, it depends on the deity. in my personal experience, there are certain ntrw who are more down with anti-monarchy/hierarchy stuff and there are those who are less down with it. there are certainly a few ntrw i've had friction with because of my stances on it, but it may not be an issue for everyone.

i think it depends on how often and how hard you brow beat them about it :')

Lmao, fair point

We don’t know if Darquesse is a villain in phase 2 tho. Currently Val is more on track to become a villain.

‘Psychotic breaks with legs’ is the most accurate description of Vile and Darquesse I’ve ever heard lmao.

This is horrible. Sending love and strength to anyone affected.

Next the fox in the pinstripe suit offers a dark stone which sucks in the life and light and refracts it into dazzling colors. He chuckles and says, “For you, love. See how vivid the toxins are? I find them delicious to break into your maw and fill your eyes.” Within his quaternary set of arms are more such stones and he moans in soft tones when he presses them to his eyes.

You accept both gifts and allow their lust to fill your core. They have many stories to tell of the dead stars, more stories than you could ever hear before your physical form crumbles into dust and leaves you alone in this lonely realm. At this future they giggle madly and reach out to stroke your form. The sentience of their energy is startling in its intelligence and otherness and hunger.

“Who is the progenitor of these gifts?”

“Our Mother, of course,” replies the fox. His easy chuckles fill you with ease not unlike a hare in a glass box. “It is she who provides you with a future under her night. She who devours the stars, devours the light and thoughts and being of your fellows, and disturbs the charts of your ancients. You love the blessed dark of her corruption. You want to fuck it.”

The goat gives a weary smile. “Forgive his adoration for mother. Ammutseba, child. She offers you a destination if you surrender unto her spitting, devouring gaze.”

Your thoughts turn to the stars blinking out like a plague upon the fireflies of your world, little hopeful insects that guide your children home and crawl into the mouths of the diseased in acts of kindness, and you see them flickering and dimming and falling down to the earth as the stars vanish beneath your charted skies. There is no mourning.

You ask with hope: “Will she hold me?”

The fox grasps you by the shoulders and his eyes spin wildly in delight. “I assure you love, she will take you into her spreading infection and embrace you as she would of any. You will no longer be bothered by the lights. Surrender unto her and you will be alone no more.”

“Then please.”

“Drink,” the goat commands. His forms flickers and splits into refractions of colors you cannot comprehend, lightless colors made of absence, and she tips the cup of stardust to your lips with a single layer of her being. She is hypnotizing. “These are are the memories of your beloved dead. Consume them. Devour them as would our mother, and absorb their being and essence within yourself until you are here and they are not.” There is a shroud in her eyes and it tickles your flesh.

You drink of your dead and take the stone within your eyes. You cannot see, there is nothing. And yet you see the goat and the pinstripe fox around you and they dance as would a drowning man. The fox takes you within his jaws and presses his eyes against you as the goat blinds you in her empty, ever changing colors. 

Just a follow up, which gods do you think are more willing to look over my anti monarchy stance?

P.S. I have felt extremely called by Ma'at and Set so i would like to know, from your experience if they are willing to accept this side of me.

Once again thanku for ur time!

upg time, but anyone outside of Re and HSA is probably fine. they are the two ntrw i've had the most conflict with regarding this topic.

It is my unpopular opinion that Wicca doesn’t overlap with Kemeticism much at all. That’s not to say you couldn’t find a way to make Wicca work with Kemetic elements, but I don’t feel like straight-out-of-the-box Wicca is going to line up with Kemeticism in a lot of ways. Most of the Wicca I’ve come across is very Europen-centered, and relies on a lot of the imagery and seasonality that is present in Europe. So in the same way that I didn’t find that Wicca worked well for someone in AZ who doesn’t have holly in the winter or harvest in September, I feel like Wicca is going to have some challenges being formatted to AE seasons and rituals.

In terms of ritual structure, we don’t necessarily call quarters or set up barriers or wards around us. We don’t have any idea what laypersons did for rituals in antiquity, so we’re often left utilizing what we have from the priesthood in antiquity. On the most formal level, you’d cleanse the space, cleanse the deity’s icon, play music and offer specific amulets and items to the deity, you’d feed, dress, water, and flatter the deity all before reverting offerings to be eaten. This is an example of a somewhat traditional ritual. Luckily for you, its to Sekhmet, so that should be helpful to at least give you an idea of what you could use if you wanted.

In terms of the calendar, AE worked off of a three-season system that was composed of a dry season, a flood season, and a growing season. I’ve seen people format the Egyptian calendar to line up more with what we use up here, converting Mysteries to be related to Samhain, etc. but most of the time I feel that the adjustments feel forced. As someone who also lives in a location with three seasons, I really don’t feel like most four-season models work seamlessly, and I think that bias shows up in this instance. Technically if you wanted to convert the Egyptian calendar to the Wiccan one, you can, its just really not my personal preference. 

We have enough holidays to sink a boat, many of which are tied to the moon phases and the cycle of seasons in AE, so those things line up conceptually, at least. We also have “magic”, though we call it heka. I feel like heka can line up with what you find in a spell book, but its also much more complex and all-encompassing than what most folks think of when they think of spell work and magic (because heka involves every aspect of communication, at all times.)

The FAQ has a section on our calendar and on heka, so that may be worth investigating for more ideas.

All in all, I personally feel like “do what feels right” is a good place to start, and is a place that is worth visiting regularly. There isn’t necessarily anything wrong with not being historically informed* so I’m not saying that you absolutely need to modify what you’re doing to align up with what’s been laid out above. But in terms of discrepancies I often see btwn Wicca and Kemeticism, this is what comes to mind first.

idkifthatshelpful?

First, when I say “finding a place to sleep” I mean that in any figurative and literal way possible. It means something along the lines of “not be conscious of where you are, who you are, or what is going on.” That can mean sleep as we do here on earth, or it can mean something else. It’s more metaphorical than literal.

That being said, regarding sleep on the astral, my experience has been “it depends.” Certain entities seem to need sleep, others don’t. I have a menz that didn’t sleep for the first few years I knew him, but after a particularly grueling situation that dragged out over the better part of a year, he legit laid down and slept for the better part of 3 months. I assume that means that under normal circumstances he doesn’t need sleep, but perhaps for certain situations he might. I think it highlights that sleep can have different applications to different beings. 

Humans are beings with bodies that require sleep. There are other beings out there whose forms may not require sleep. So it really depends on the specifics.

I also don’t consider there to be a line btwn us and astral, not really. Usually when I’m saying “astral” with other people, I’m using it to mean “things that we humans can not collectively experience or touch”, which is to say the less-physical parts of our existence. However, in my own worldview, the word “astral” is a false separation btwn “us” and everything else when really its more about what we can and can’t perceive. To me, the entire universe is “the astral.” And as such, I don’t really consider anything truly off limits for “the astral.”

For all I know, the places I’ve visited astrally exist somewhere and are just as physical as here and now. I just can’t experience them by physically traveling to them, I have to connect in a non-physical way. Yes, I do realize this could be completely false and I just have a good imagination. That’s part of the catch 22 of doing anything astral related, tho.

I also don’t consider every dream to be “astral” in nature, which is to say that some dreams appear to be nothing but my own mind working through things, where other dreams feel like they have a “I am in a different place” quality to them. So again, there is some grey area there.

But what I’m really trying to say (I think) is that I really don’t see there being any sort of “rule” that just because the “dream plane” is “on the astral” means that nothing else should be able to sleep or dream or what have you. Every other place I’ve been is so similar to here, and yet very different. In the same way that there are many species of beings here on earth, each of which has their own specific needs -- so too with beings on the astral. So many of them are so very similar to us humans, and yet each species is a little bit different.

And I view the whole matter of sleeping to be similar in nature. Some need it, some don’t. Some may only need it under certain circumstances. Some may travel to another place while asleep, some may stay in their own bodies. Some may dream, others may not -- who knows.

When you cast a wide enough net, I personally think there are no rules, and everything is within the realm of possibility.

tbh my love of KO has worn thin over the years. The organization is great for some people, but there are far too many issues with it for my tastes.

It’s been a couple of years since I actively looked at KO or participated in its forums, so it’s possible things have changed, but when I was still mingling around, it seemed very cliquish. I found that if you are a remetj or undivined, people treat you with less respect, and your work is often discounted or outright ignored.

I’ve found that if you draw question to how the organization is run, or have issue with anything Tamara does, you’ll likely be ostracized as well (that’s not to say that some people srsly have stupid ass issues with Tamara, I’m not talking about those.)

And overall, if you ever get into any sort of drama or crossfires of another member, if you’re not high ranking, you can expect no assistance or administrative backup on the forums. I mean, when one of your higher ranking people starts yelling at you and editing their posts after shit talking, and all Tamara can do is flounce???? Yeah, I’ll pass. People talk about how tumblr is the “wild wild west” (gag me), and yet I’ve found that there is no admin over on KO, and so any kerfuffle that occurs is poorly handled, if its handled at all.

My final nail in the coffin, honestly, was when Tamara decided that protecting white feelings was more important than protecting her non-white members, so I mean, is it healthy? Is it safe? Depends on your demographics and priorities. For me, it is neither, but other people feel differently.

There aren’t really any other groups out there, afaict. There is Temple of Ra, but that is really only for in-person folks over in California (and Reidy was not without his own issues. I honestly don’t know what’s become of the temple since he died.) 

Our community has a lot of issues, and not a lot of resources. So hopefully in time we’lll have more orgs to pick from, but certainly not at the moment.

Stuff. Things. Welcome to our dumpster fire