In the background of Final Fantasy 8, they tell the origin of the Sorceresses and it's rooted in the story of a being known as the Great Hyne. Here's what we first hear in Balamb:

That's the basic story in the beginning. We more details later in the game in the White SeeD ship. Let me summarize:

Th Legend of Vascaroon says Hyne was the ruler of the world that created Humans. Like before, Hyne surrendered half his body, then there was a war for control of that half. Vascaroon was the one that pointed out - what was left behind was Hyne's skin. (Maybe not his entire half-body.)

The ultimania books have one final version of the story called -

Aru Hi no Garden no Jugyō Fūkei

The story says Hyne created the world, created Humans to work for him because he were tired. While Hyne was asleep, Humans ran the world on their own. When he awoke, Hyne was startled by their numbers, so he tried exterminating their young, and the humans started to turn against him.

Hyne bargains for the end of the war by willingly giving up half his body, and telling the early humans they would have half his powers. There was another war, and then Vascaroon, who was a sage, says the "half" of Hyne's body is just his cast off skin. This is how the persecution of Magic Users / Sorceresses began.

When you read all three stories, it becomes clear that these are ancient tales that have become distorted over time. The real details have been lost. Maybe it was all bullshit made up to persecute women.

However, I ask you now to look at Ultimecia's Final Form:

That looks like half a magical parasite growing out of Ultimecia's normal body. And it looks like it's missing part of it's skin, don't you think?

So, Hyne was probably real. And, that begs the question, who or what is Hyne, really?

Final Fantasy takes place in a Multiverse, and across the various games, we have seen strange entities similar to how Hyne was described.

The fact that it was so old and wants to kill humans for overpopulating and altering the world, did make me think that Hyne could be a Weapon. But, Weapons seldom show true sentience and the ability to scheme, so it is highly unlikely Hyne was a Weapon.

In between the alternate dimensions of the Final Fantasy Multiverse there is The Void where strange and powerful entities live. And they love to consume everything and leave everything in darkness. But, they're not known to scheme or bargain like Hyne did. So, it's a possibility, but a tad unlikely.

Not unless the whole beginning part of the myth is false. Like Hyne wasn't the creator of humans. Maybe it was an entity like Cloud of Darkness, it awoke, humans fought and won, then fought over its body, thinking it would give them powers.

But, then, why would Hyne exist as a parasite in sorceresses? Like we see in Ultimecia?

Let's talk about Jenova. "The Crisis from the Sky" is an alien lifeform that arrived in the ancient times of FF7. It is fairly powerful, but not all powerful. It was known to shapeshift, but Jenova also has the ability to survive being cut to pieces. Exposure to Jenova's cell's (or a virus) causes people to transform into monsters.

And we see a few other sorceresses in FF8, that are steadily becoming more monstrous:

Yes. I'd have to speculate that Jenova is the closest thing to Hyne. The might have been the same species, or something similar. Hyne probably arrived from outer space in the ancient times. It might have been injured or just asleep when it first arrived.

When it awoke, it started killing people. This drove the humans to corner it and kill it. Then they fought over the remains of the body, thinking it would give them magical powers. the carcass had no powers, but later women started to manifest magic and turning into monsters and that's what started the persecution of the Sorceresses.

Sorceresses in FF8 have to pass on their powers to another sorceress before they pass on. This is what passes the Hyne parasite on to the next person, and is somewhat similar to Jenova's Reunion ability.

What we see manifesting in Ultimecia is Hyne's true final form. It's been gestating inside of Ultimecia for a long time, finally growing powerful enough to absorb all of existence, and yet it still bears the scars from the original war.

At least that's my interpretation.

Kashiwa and Hishi mochi remind me of the Tanabata story

Well if you want to know why in a nutshell. But first what is the Tanabata story? In the Tanabata story, basically at first Orihime weaved and Hikoboshi does farm work or whatever he does. But then they both fell in love one day, and hanged out way too much the people's clothes got really ugly because Orihime wasn't working and the farms were unhappy because Hikoboshi was also not working.

This made Orihime's pops (he's the god of the sky) angry and sepreated the 2, only making Hikoboshi and Orihime see eachother on a specific date so his daughter can return to weaving clothes and such for the gods. And so they did, crossing the milky way to see eachother on that specific date based off a Chinese story and based off the meeting of the 2 stars Altair and Vega.

Now let's talk about Kashiwa and Hishi's backstory...

Hishi's attendant is the younger princess of the kingdom, similar to how Orihime is the daughter of the sky god

Both of their attendants were "star-crossed lovers" similar to the couple

Hishi and Kashiwa were playmates and hanged out a lot with eachother which is what happend to led the couple being sepreated

On Kashiwa's side, his attendant died and went off to get stronger to defeat fallen angels, which is vaguely similar to how Hikoboshi would work hard with the cows after they got seperated so they can reunite

On Hishi's side of the story, she is very sad over Kashiwa gone missing, and I assume she's working hard by making dolls because Unadon told her and traveling with Mastutake Dobinmushi.. Like how Orihime is weaving clothes so they can reunite

Maybe Kashiwa and Hishi will reunite like the couple.. But is this a coincidence or not? Though it is very similar to the Tanabata legend. And it'll be cool seeing 2 legends in 1 set of characters

Oh and in a lot of the art of Orihime and Hikoboshi, apperently Orihime has those 2 loops on her head like Hishi which is in her bow while Kashiwa has a tiny ponytail similar to Hikoboshi's bun.. Hmm..

..Interesting indeed... Wow I want a skin of Kashiwa and Hishi being Orihime and Hikoboshi now

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i want serious stuff! no crack stuff. memes and such are not allowed. I want something older people in the fandom can appreciate, and have logical talks about theories. Which, if you have a theory, try to back it up with in game lore! But, it can also just be ideas as well.

- the theory is based on soul power

- all beings have some soul power

- food souls have a ton more

- M souls, having the least, are the least skilled in combat (generally)

- URs, on the other hand, have a lot more and thus are generally stronger

- Food souls can sense other food souls by sensing their soul power (ex: a ton of stories)

- humans don’t have enough soul power to sense if a being is a food soul (ex: brownie’s story)

- a food soul goes fallen if a certain amount of their total soul power is “corrupted”

- soul power can be corrupted naturally, via traumatizing events, or artificially, via the syringe thingo in the main story (and perhaps other means, depends on how the story unfolds!)

- (the “human” fallen angels gave themselves too much soul power, which became corrupted, rendering them fallen.)

And about Pizza’s story:

- whiskey was somehow able to mask his soul power reading, so pizza and the gang weren’t able to identify him

- whiskey gave pizza a ton of soul power (he says dream energy??? I imagine that they’re the same thing but I could be wrong) in order to like harvest it or something

- he planned on corrupting pizza’s soul energy to make him fallen

- (I imagine he also gave the magician a ton of soul power, and then corrupted it. This explains the magician’s magical abilities.)

Ruminations on Griever. What is Griever?

For starters, let's consider its name. While in English, its name means someone who is grieving, someone who is sad, usually sad about the loss. Seems fitting for someone like Squall to attach himself to something like that. But, (if you want to believe the FF Wiki) in Russian the name Griva means mane, like the mane of a lion, which would be more organic to the world.

Let's talk about it origin in the world of Final Fantasy 8. While in the English version, Griever is only called the Strongest Guardian Force that Ultimecia summons from the aether (or maybe from the Void between dimensions). In the Japanese version (If you trust what the FF Wiki says), instead Ultimecia seems to be summoning Griever from the mind of Squall.

(It's like Ghostbusters, where Zool asks "choose the form of your destroyer.)

Now, we already know that Griever is the monster that is on Squall's ring, it's also on his necklace, and on his gunblade. But, did Squall make him up?

(Squall's origical character, do not steal, lol. Squall's fursona lol)

No, he did not.

It can be very easy to miss, but if you watch FF8's very long ending sequence, the game ends looking up at the moon, and you can see Griever's silhouette on the moon.

We can extrapolate from this detail, what is Griever actually in the world of FF8.

Remember that in FF8, the monsters come from the Moon. So, it's easy to assume that people looking up at the moon, saw the figure of a lion and started to build a legend around it. That this giant lion on the moon was the Guardian Force that was fighting those most dangerous monsters on the moon, protecting the world.

It's easy to imagine a young Squall hearing these stories when he was at the Orphanage, or at the start of his SeeD training, and he latched on to this legendary Guardian Force as a personal symbol.

Here is a crack theory that has no real evidence, just wild speculation on my part. Stop me if you've heard this one, Ultimecia is Rinoa.... 's mom.

Ultimecia is Julia Heartly.

Here's my angle. Julia Heartly was a Sorceress all along, and she tried to keep it hidden, but the Galbadian government found out and tried to kill her. So, she faked her down death and went into hiding to keep her family safe. Caraway would tell everyone she died in a Car accident.

Using her powers, she accidentally teleport herself across time into the far flung future, where hardship and loneliness drives her mad. She masters her sorceress powers, growing ever stronger, until she decides to remake the universe as she sees fit, and begins her plan to cause Time Compression.

It kinda fits... I mean Edea was like "mom" to 5 of the main cast, the one that wasn't, her mom is the main antagonist.