"Just A Man" from Epic the Musical by Jorge Rivera-Herrans

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"Just A Man" from Epic the Musical by Jorge Rivera-Herrans

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Just writing random stuff about my day to practice. I can remember most of the letters without having to check now! Tengwar in Norwegian
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When does a man become a monster?
âNauvarimme illume as elye. Alaquen na oi naitie vanwa. HĂșme nosse cuitea imi elye sĂ.â
âWeâll always be with you. No oneâs ever really gone. A thousand generations live in you now.â
Luke Skywalker, Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
âĂ cara cea mehtari nem me tuxa.â
âMake ten men feel like a hundred.â
- Cassian Andor, Rogue One

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âYours ye may break, but I my bond
must keep, and kingdom here forsake.
If hearts here were that did not quake,
or that to Finrodâs son were true,
then I at least should find a few
to go with me, not like a poor
rejected beggar scorn endure,
turned from my gates to leave my town,
my people, and my realm and crown!â
Finrod Felagund, King of Nargothrond
Lay of Leithian 224-232
Beren and LĂșthien p.119
Hiya, I'm a classical / film score / OC score composer and I'm writing an SATB choral piece for the Ainulindale and I'm having trouble understanding the stressed syllables on the words. I know in general the rule is if there's 3 or more syllables you accent the third to last syllable, unless there's an acute accent (which I think doesn't include the fun dots). But I'm not 100% sure and I don't want to write a whole piece with the wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable. Lmk if you have a recording of you reading the Quenya version of the Ainulindale or how to do that! I'm using the one written on https://www.elvish.org/gwaith/ainulindale.htm by Ryszard Derdzinski. Lmk if this is the wrong one XD
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Sorry it took me so long to respond! đ„Č
So, according to my books when you have a word with two syllables, then the focus is on the first syllable. E.g. Anor ['a.nor], parma ['par.ma]
With three syllable words there are two options.
A. The second to last syllable is long
In this case the second to last syllable is the main focus. A long syllable contains either a long vowel (ĂĄ, Ă©, Ă, oÂŽ, Ăș), a diphtong (ai, oi, ui, au, eu, iu) or multiple consonants after a vowel.
Examples:
OlĂłrin (long vowel: Ăł)
Ălairi (Diphtong: ai)
Isildur (two consonants after the vowel: ld)
Menelya (the y counts as a consonant: ly)
B. The second to last syllable is short
If the second to last syllable is short, the third to last syllable is emphasized. A short syllable contains a short vowel or one or no consonants.
Examples:
Orome (second to last syllable is -ro: short vowel followed by a consonant)
AnĂĄrion (second to last syllable is -ri: short vowel, not followed by a consonant)
By adding endings such as -ndil, -rdur, -rdil, ldur the emphasis can be shifted. Such as the word "isil" (moon, a noun) and "Isildur" (servant of the moon, a name). In "isil" the emphasis is on the first vowel. In "Isildur" the emphasis is on "sil".
Concerning the fun dots, in tengwar the dots and dashes indicate vowels. It's very similar to Arabic in that regard. The larger letters are generally consonants while the dots and dashes are vowels.
I don't have a recording of myself reading the Ainulindale, but I've been speaking it from what I've heard from the movies and listened from songs. There's a German singer/songwriter called Oonagh and a lot of her songs have Quenya in them! Since German pronunciation is very similar to Quenya, that helps quite a bit with pronunciation. Here are three songs of hers that feature quite a bit of Quenya. Song 1. Song 2. Song 3. (Youâll usually have to wait for the chorus, sorry. đ )
Another thing I would point out is that the elves are very lyrical. They will forgive emphasis if it works better for the song. (At least that's what I remember reading somewhere) I don't think you need to worry to much about emphasis. My personal pet peeve would be pronunciation more than emphasis of the correct syllable.
I really hope this helps and good luck with your project! I'd love to hear it when it's finished! đ„°
Generations
I was translating a sentence that contained the word generations and couldnât find an Elvish word for it. It really made me start thinking about how the Elves though.
Quenya is the language of the Elves that went to Valinor. The first ones to emerge in the world and they had no parent besides IllĂșvatar. They settle the lands of the Valar, basking in the lights of the Two Trees and give birth to their children. Their children age and give birth to their own children and so on. The Vanyar, Teleri and Noldor have words for their parents and grandparents and for kindred and family, but none for generations.
Why would they?
Humans have the concept of generations because we have the idea of the beginning of a generation and the end of a generation. Where the era of one generation ends, another begins. Humans are mortal and have a finite time on Middle-Earth.
The eldar are timeless. They are born and unless killed they spend eternity in their prime. There is no end or beginning of a generation. A man could have a son and a grandson and after enough time they could be mistaken for brothers because they donât age like humans. The very eldest could grow beards (thank you CĂrdan, love you bro) and one could sense greater wisdom or power among the elder eldars, but from a distance a family gathering would probably look very odd by our human standards.
The concept of generations probably didnât need to be considered until the eldar encountered mortal men. By then Quenya had been forbidden in Thingolâs realms. Sindarin was the common tongue. I think it would be far more likely to find a word for generations in Sindarin.