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Kelsier and Anti-Social Personality Disorder: An Essay
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Kelsier Essay
I hope the dear reader will forgive my use of a proper noun as I write this essay; it removes somewhat of a formal aspect from its words but I must admit, it does come from a personal place of my heart. While this essay is meant to be persuasive, itâs also meant to be constructive and to drive a point home that I have been musing on for quite a while. This essay has major spoilers for the entirety of the Cosmere. If you havenât read up to SP3, please refrain from reading this.
In the endless expanses of the Cosmere, there are hundreds of characters whom many hold dear and just as many whom people hate. You could say this is due to the brilliance of the author, who, despite his busy schedules and near constant time spent behind a keyboard, finds time to sign sheets and answer questions. Why is signing sheets and answering questions relevant to beloved and reviled characters? Read on.
Brandon Sanderson answers hundreds of questions, many of whom are inane, innocuous, or silly. Some are deeper, others delve into the basis behind some of his choices while writing. Still others pertain to characters. We get to the meat of it. This particular character is known, through the writing, as a brutal man, who let nothing stand in the way of his goal, who, while cleaving the noble class of his society in twain, uplifted the peasants and upended the thousand-year reign of his deity and ruler. Yes, weâre talking of Kelsier, the Survivor of Hathsin, hero of the Final Empire, and a character that leaves many people puzzled.
Reddit forums are frequented by questions about him. r/Mistborn and r/Cosmere alike have had their fair share of debates, and there was one thing I noticed in many of these: they take the words of Sanderson very, very seriously. Why shouldnât they? Heâs the author, is he not? Back in 2013, Sanderson had a Q&A session where someone asked him who his most disturbing character was. The WoB is as follows:
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1.Which of your protagonist characters do you dislike the most as a person? Taking in account that you know all of their inner secrets and motivations. 2. On the flip side, which of your antagonists do you connect with the most? The Lord Ruler seems an obvious choice as he was misunderstood by everyone for so long. But still, Iâm curious.
Brandon Sanderson This is a tough one, as while Iâm writing, I HAVE to like everyone. However, the most disturbing of them is probably Kelsier. Heâs a psychopathâmeaning the actual, technical term. Lack of empathy, egotism, lack of fear. If his life had gone differently, he could have been a very, very evil dude.
 This Word of Brandon has had a decided effect on the fandom, namely in the fact that critical thought surrounding Kelsier, his motives, his struggles, and his successes, has all but been erased. He has been branded a psychopath, and there is nothing anyone can say against it.
The word âpsychopathâ is a very negatively charged word. To preface things, I want to be clear that this essay is going to refer to âpsychopathyâ as Antisocial-Personality Disorder. The term psychopath is very old, and largely refers to individuals with this particular disorder. The traditional definition of psychopath is someone who both lacks a conscience and lacks empathy.
Through this essay, I plan to painstakingly showcase that Kelsier fits neither the outdated term nor the criteria for the actual disorder, through canon book citations. I will break down each diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder (Henceforth shortened to ASPD) and Kelsierâs character traits at large. I wish to not only prove Brandon wrong (It is a very old WoB and I doubt very much he still believes this.) but to prove to the fandom at large that Kelsier is a good man. A flawed man, but a good man. I will also note specific character traits that I feel are of note in discussing him, his motives, and his current ideologies.
(Please note that there are plenty of individuals with ASPD that are not bad people. Your actions make you bad, not your mental health. I will be using terms such as âbadâ and âwrongâ, but this is in regards to a fictional character, NOT a real life human being.)
Antisocial Personality Disorder is a disorder characterized by the DSM-V as a Cluster-B personality disorder. It shares its family with Narcissistic, Borderline, and Histrionic disorders, and is characterized by a âcontinuing disregard and violation of the rights of others, occurring since the age of fifteen. To be diagnosed with ASPD, you must show a pattern of three or more of the following characteristics:
¡     Failure to Conform with Laws and Social Norms
¡     Deceitfulness (Repeated lying or conning of others for personal profit or pleasure.
¡     Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead.
¡     Irritability or Aggressiveness (Repeated physical fights or assaults.)
¡     Reckless disregard for the safety of others.
¡     Consistent irresponsibility. (Failure to keep a job or honor financial obligations.
¡     Lack of remorse.
Psychopathy is a term that was coined before this disorder was identified and refers specifically to a person lacking in both empathy and a conscience. The term is still widely used today, along with the term Sociopath, often interchangeably. For this essay, Iâll be largely relying on the psychiatric standards set in the DSM-V.
With this in mind, letâs jump into the criteria necessary for one (In this case, Kelsier) to be diagnosed with ASPD. While Kelsier waits in the waiting room, rather annoyed, letâs overview his case file. I will be pulling The Final Empire (TFE), Secret History (SH), and Eleventh Metal (EM). To make things clearer, I am using the Arcanum Unbounded version of SH and EM.
Failing to Conform with Laws and Social Norms
âYes, he pocketed the gemstones in the vault, but that was more out of pragmatism than anything else.â (SH)
âIndividual must show a pattern of Failing to conform with laws and social norms.â This one is tricky, as we are speaking of a fictional character in a brutal society hell bent on slaughtering those like Kelsier. Him becoming a thief was his way of surviving. While a thief, he was known as trusting, fair, just, and great to work with. When speaking to Vin after saving her from Camonâs beating, he explains just what sort of thief and crew leader he is, which puzzles her for quite a few pages as she notices the level of trust he places in other people.
ââŚWell Dox and I, weâre scavengers too, weâre just a higher quality scavenger. Weâre more well bred, you might say-or perhaps just more ambitious.â (Chapter 3, page 56, TFE). After Clubs leaves in a huff, Yeden exclaims that he has to be dealt with, and Kelsier shuts him down.
âYouâre just going to let him go?â ââŚI donât work that way, Yeden. I invited Clubs where I outlined a dangerous plan-one some people might even call stupid. Iâm not going to have him assassinated because he decided it was too dangerous. If you do things like that, pretty soon nobody will come listen to your plans in the first place.â (chapter 4, page 80, TFE).
Clubs, upon his return, remarks heâs heard that Kelsier would never use emotional allomancy to sway someone to his side. âYouâre a smoker Clubs. He couldnât do much to you, not if you didnât want him too.â âI donât like SoothersâŚMen like thatâŚwell you canât trust you arenât being manipulated when they are around. Copper or no copper.â âI wouldnât rely on something like that to get your loyalty.â âSo Iâve heard.â (Chapter 5, page 87, TFE).
If we mark his thieving and conning as a pattern in this trope, we also have to mark it against Doxson, Hammond, Breeze, Vin, and Clubs, not to mention hundreds of other Skaa and half-skaa that are just trying to live. Thus, this particular criterion is being ignored due to the outstanding circumstances of the Final Empire and how it was run.
Deceitfulness for Profit or Pleasure
âAnd the thirdâŚwell, that was Kelsierâs favorite. It involved a tongue coated with zinc. Instead of a knife it used confusion, and instead of prowling it worked in the open.â (SH)
As a con-artist and thief, Kelsier throughly enjoys his trade. He made it a mission in life to con his way to the top of the thieving world, becoming the most âInfamous crewleader in Luthadelâ (Chapter 5, page 89, TFE). He loved terrifying the Ire out of their possessions and the orb of Investiture. The man enjoys his profession in life; he didnât fall into it out of necessity or trick. He even states, in narration of his own in the Eleventh Metal, that when he Snapped as a Mistborn, he immediately gravitated towards Zinc and Brass, as they could âmanipulate other peopleâs emotions.â (Eleventh Metal, page 159). âWeâre thieves, gentlemen- and weâre extraordinarily good ones. We can rob the unrobbable and fool the unfoolableâŚâ (Chapter 4, page 75, TFE). That being said, he doesnât lie to his crewmembers. (Ghostbloodâs are a bit different, and Iâll get to that later.) He is upfront and honest with his crew members, never expecting them to go into something without all the information. He has never used emotional allomancy to manipulate his friends. âDespite what Breeze says, itâs bad manners to use emotional Allomancy on your friends.â (Chapter 11, page 212, TFE).
His dealings with the Ghostbloods get a little trickier. I do not think lying to them about having powers has anything to do with profit or pleasure, more, it has to do with his position and what he is. A little mystery aids his position, and Iâm sure those closest to him know quite well he lacks powers.Â
To sum it up, Kelsier does meet this criterion. He enjoys the con, lives for it.
Impulsivity with a Failure to Plan Ahead
âOh hell,â Kelsier said. âThereâs actually a God?ââYes.âKelsier decked him. (SH) Impulsiveness, in regards to ASPD, is described as someone who is not only impulsive, but also fails to plan ahead. To quote the exact text. âImpulsivity with a failure to plan ahead.â They lack any way of preparing for large tasks or what they are going to do in the future. In regards to Kelsier, he can certainly be impulsive. Heat of the moment decisions is one of his major strengths, along with one of his major flaws. Heâs fond of brash decisions against those he deems slighted him or others (Punching Leras/Ruin in Secret History.) He will jump headlong into danger in order to save those in helpless situations. (Running to save the army, only to be stopped by Vin.) His foray into Kredik Shaw could be called impulsive, though I read it as him believing that since he didnât plan at all, there was no way he could be betrayed, as had happened last time. Him taking Vin was certainly a foolish choice, though I wouldnât call it impulsive.
Speaking of his impulsiveness, other characters are aware of it as well. Vin, inspecting the crates that will be shipped to the caves, says that âEven the new, more responsible Kelsier was an impulsive man.â upon learning he planned to go to the caves with Yeden to inspect the army. (Chapter 20, page 331, TFE).
His slaughter of the noblemen and women in the town of Longsfellow after they murdered a young girl could be seen as impulsive. He did it without regard for their plan, which angered Mare.
That being said, Kelsier does not fit this criteria, despite being an impulsive man, as he does not fail to plan ahead. All of Kelsierâs life as a thief was nothing but planning; job after job, all planned out and discussed with his friends/crewmates.
âIt was an unfamiliar experience for him. [faltering/indecision] Heâd always had a plan, before. Plans upon plansâŚâ (Eleventh Metal, page 152).
ââŚall those plans, all of those heists, all of his grand visions.â (Eleventh Metal, page 164).
Beginning in Eleventh Metal, Kelsier forms his plan that we see enacted in The Final Empire. Specifically, this line. âNobody fights, he thought, Nobody thinks they can fight. But theyâre wrong. We can fightâŚI can fight.â (Eleventh Metal, page 165). âA plan began to bud, a plan he barely dared consider for its audacity. Vengeance. And more.â (Eleventh Metal, Page 169).
This plan carries us into the main narrative of The Final Empire. Every major event, barring a few hiccups, is fully orchestrated by Kelsier. He planned for the House War, long before he sat down with his friends and discussed it in Clubâs Shop. The beginnings of it were at Trestings Plantation, where he âstirred up a little trouble.â (Prologue, page 12, TFE).
His death, at the end of the novel, was part of a plan; hidden deep under other sets of plans, a hidden leaf of paper among many: A plan to get the Skaa to rise up.
I doubt I need to fully list all of Kelsierâs planning and plotting throughout the books; itâs extensive and would fill several sheets of paper. While we can all agree that Kelsier is an impulsive man, I believe a suitable picture has been drawn up that proves that he doesnât fit this particular criteria.
Irritability or Aggressiveness
âHeâd been in street brawls before, but not many. Heâd tried to avoid them-brawling had been an old habit of Docksonâs. For once, he wished heâd been less refined in that particular area.â
Kelsierâs anger throughout the first novel, and indeed Eleventh Metal, is mostly internal. In Eleventh Metal, he doesnât lash out at Gemmel, despite the man deserving it. He instead focuses that anger on other, more deserving targets. Through most of the novel, heâs rather numb, incapable of any emotion, until he finds the Skaa, hanging up and nearly flayed from the experiments at Shezlerâs hands. He murders Shezler brutally with a shard of glass punched to the throat. (Eleventh Metal, page 167). His actions with Hoid in the Well of Ascension could certainly be touted as aggressive, however I disagree with this line of thinking, for reasons Iâll outline in greater detail later in the essay. (Part 2, Chapter 1, page 231, SH)
âKelsier kept smiling. Heâd do so until it felt natural. Until that numbness, tied in a knot within him, started to unravel and he began to feel again. If that was possible.â (Eleventh Metal, page 149).
ââŚthe only thing he could feel these days was rage, and that rage couldnât guide him.â
Irritability generally means lashing out at those around you. Kelsier doesnât do that. He gets his angriest towards âfriendsâ in the caves, when manipulating Bilg to speak of his doubts. Diction is very important here. Kelsier wanted Bilg to die for speaking against him. (Something that was, unfortunately, very common in military groups in prior eras (of Earth). It was labeled as treason, and execution was the usual punishment.) âKelsier paused. This man should die, he thought angrily. On the ground, Bilg groaned quiestly. Kelsier could just barely see his twisted arm, its bone shattered by the powerful strike. It was bleeding. Â No, Kelsier thought. This is enough.â (Chapter 21, Page 351, TFE).
Note that, despite his anger and irritation, he changes his mind quickly. The heat of the moment, the trauma of being back in caverns similar to the ones he was tortured in, the looming threat of their deaths drawing ever closer, got the better of him, and he stoppered it.
Despite Vin disobeying him many, many times, following him, and contradicting him, Kelsier never snaps at her. When he catches her following him to Kredik Shaw, he sits down and speaks to her. Yet more evidence is seen in his speaking with his brother. Marsh gets angry; Marsh snaps; We canât deny him this. Yet Kelsier, despite his inner monologue saying that Marsh is the only one that can get under his skin, keeps his relative cool.
ââOh?â Marsh asked, tapping the word atium on the board. âWhy the games, Kelsier? Why lead Yeden along, pretending to accept him as your âemployerâ? Why act like you care about the skaa? We both know what youâre really after.â Â Â Â Â Â Â Kelsier clenched his jaw, a bit of his humor melting away. He always could do that to me.ââ(Chapter 7, Page 130, TFE).
During Secret History, though technically before the events of Eleventh Metal and The Final Empire, Kelsier kills seven people in retribution for murdering a girl for spilling tea. He remembers this as he wanders into the town of Longsfollow. You could definitely argue aggression in this case. (Part 4, Chapter 2, page 282, SH).
Kelsier does not fit this criteria. Random acts of aggression spaced throughout a lifetime of traumatic events and death at every corner are to be expected, and throughout it all, heâs a wonderful man to those around him; supportive, charitable, and loyal.
Reckless Disregard for the Safety of Others
âThe best practice is doing.â Vin said. âMy brother trained me to steal by taking me on burglaries.â Kelsier shook his head. âItâs too dangerous.â
Kelsier is shown to care, deeply, for the safety of those surrounding him. We donât see much of it in Eleventh Metal, but we can assume, based on him helping the Skaa get out of the city at the end of the novella, that he cared for their safety.
In TFE, he is constantly aware of not only his crewâs safety, but his armyâs as well. They walk a very fine line; one that, if broken, would result in their immediate deaths. Multiple lines of safeguards and protections, of smoke and mirrors, goes into making sure there is no chance of betrayal or accidental mis-step.Â
â...Renoux nodded. Ostensibly weâre sending this all via canal barges to my plantation in the west. However, the barges will stop to drop off suppliesâand many of the canalmenâat the rebellion caverns. The barges and a few men will continue on to keep upon appearances.â âOur soldiers donât even know that Renoux is in on the plan,â Kelsier said, smiling. âThey think heâs a nobleman that Iâm scamming.â (Chapter 20, page 329, TFE)
The security of his troops, and indeed, all of their heads as well, was paramount. The three guards at the entrances at all times, were stationed to keep everyone in that cavern safe from potential betrayal. After they find Marsh âdeadâ, Kelsier sends the entire crew to the bolt lair before leaving for the Pits of Hathsin. He also tells them to send for Renoux, to tell him to pull out. This happened after a night of thought; it wasnât an impulsive act.
Upon the attack on Vinâs former crewâŚ
âShould we move our base?â Ham asked. Kelsier slowly shook his head. âWhen Clubs came to this lair, he would have worn a disguise to and from the meeting, hiding his limpâŚWe should still be safe. (Abridged, Page 208, 11)
Upon finding Vin tailing him as he observed Camonâs hangingâŚ
âWhat are you doing here?â âI wanted to see what you were doing!â âThis could have been dangerous! What were you thinking?â (Abridged, 211, chapter 11)
Upon Kelsier catching Vin tailing him, beginning a back and forth about Kredick Shaw, and Vin deciding sheâll tail him regardless of what he says, Kelsier reads her thoughts. âIâm serious, Vin! You canât go with me.â âWhy not?â she asked, abandoning pretense. âIf what youâre doing is so dangerous, wouldnât it be safer if you had another Mistborn watching your back?â âYou still donât know all of the metals,â Kelsier said. âOnly because you havenât taught me.â âYou need more practice.â âThe best practice is doing.â Vin said. âMy brother trained me to steal by taking me on burglaries.â Kelsier shook his head. âItâs too dangerous.â (page 241, 13)
Upon Vin awakening from her coma the second timeâŚ
âVin,â Kelsier said hesitantly. âI owe you an apology. I nearly got you killed.â Vin snorted quietly. âItâs not your fault. I made you take me.â âYou shouldnât have been able to make me,â Kelsier said. âMy original decision to send you away was the right one. Please accept the apology.â (Page 268, Chapter 16, TFE).
âI donât want to be responsible for something happening to you, Vin. Not again.â (page 287, Chapter 17, TFE).
 Are there instances where he disregards the safety of others? He doesnât care for noblemen. He certainly doesnât care much for the Ire, though they were trying to forcibly take his God. Many people may argue he doesnât care for those on Roshar, but this has never been explicitly mentioned in the novels; we hear from players that are literal lightyears away from Kelsier, operating under his orders but without his oversight: they can bend rules and hurt people without being chastised.
 Kelsier does not fit this criteria, as the above examples clearly illustrate he cares deeply for the safety of those under his wing.
Consistent Irresponsibility (Inability to hold a job, etc)
âA successful crewleader needs to know how to divide labor, especially on a job as big as this one.â
Throughout the novels, Kelsier has shown consistent responsibility. Before the novels take place, we know he led a successful crew of thieves to the point of massive wealth and infamy. After the Pits, he takes the downfall of the Final Empire under his wing, organizing and spearheading the entire operation on largely his own dime and merit. (It was a multi-headed approach, yes; without Dockson, many things would not have gotten done as well as they had with him, but this just showcases Kelsierâs ability to organize work well.) If weâre getting into the more psychological definition of responsibility (the feeling of being responsible for a person, place, or thing(s) wellbeing) he takes responsibility for the entire planet in Secret History, going so far as to cheating final death, taking up a shard for safe keeping, and giving it up, all to keep his planet, and those he loves, from Ruin.
Leading the Ghostbloods is similar to him leading his crew, only on a far wider and grander scale.
As for him being consistently irresponsible, itâs safe to say he doesnât fit this. There are a few times when he makes brash decisions that could be labeled as irresponsible, but they fit being impulsive better, which is a trait we know he has.
Lack of Remorse
âKelsier stood up, turning his back toward the sight. For all his cleverness, heâd gone and broken the poor girlâs heart. I must be the smartest idiot around, Kelsier thought.â
Probably one of the most contentious topics in the fandom is Kelsierâs feelings towards the nobles he kills. Chapter 5 into the beginning of Chapter 7, we are confronted with how he feels towards the men he kills in pursuit of his goal.
It is very safe to say, he doesnât feel remorse for these men. Itâs explained as he descends from the roof, pushing two guards off the balcony to their deaths. Heâs angry, heâs determined, and has no pity for those who hold up the Final Empire, especially if their skaa. He does, however, feel remorse for hurting those he cares about; those he wants to protect. The best example of this is Vin: he feels terrible when sheâs nearly killed because of his stunt at Kredick Shaw, he feels bad for how he spoke to her before he died, and heâs stricken by his actions in âkillingâ Elend in an effort for her to keep the power.
âVin,â Kelsier said hesitantly. âI owe you an apology. I nearly got you killed.â Vin snorted quietly. âItâs not your fault. I made you take me.â âYou shouldnât have been able to make me.â (Chapter 16, page 267, TFE).
Note the actions at the beginning of this scene: âKelsier was there when she awoke. He sat on the stool by her bed, hands clasped with his elbows on his knees, watching her by the faint light of a lantern.â (Chapter 16, page 267, TFE) Based on Sandersonâs word choice, it is safe to say heâs been watching her for hours, agonized. This is further cemented by a later observation by Vin. âWhat did one make of a world where a crewleader agonized over his people?â (Chapter 16, page 269, TFE).
Heâs also broken up by how he spoke to the army, leading Yeden to âtestâ the army by striking against a nearby garrison. The entirety of page 419 showcases Kelsierâs thoughts and emotions about this, but Iâll break it up.
âHe sat with hands clasped before himâŚâ Remember when he was watching Vin? Similar behavior. âKelsier shook his head. So many dead. Theyâd gathered nearly seven thousand troops before this fiasco, but now most of them lay dead. Yeden had apparently decided to âtestâ the army by striking at night against the Holstep Garrison. What had led him to such a foolish decision?â âMe, Kelsier thought. This is my fault. Heâd promised them supernatural aid. Heâd set himself up, had made Yeden a part of the crew, and had talked too casually about doing the impossible. Was it any wonder that Yeden had thought he could attack the Final Empire head on, considering the confidence Kelsier had given him? Was it any wonder the soldiers would go with the man, considering the promises Kelsier had made?â âNow the men were dead, and Kelsier was responsibleâŚBut, he couldnât get over the twisting in his gutâŚthe fact that theyâd likely died expecting some sort of divine protection from KelsierâŚthat was disturbing.â
Kelsier fully feels the weight of hubris here, of the secret plan heâs been working on by himself the past few months, that we get a window into during his time in the caves. He feels terrible for what he caused, he fully understands that this was because of him. Safe to say, he feels remorse. You could say this is the comeuppance for his actions with Bilg.
 When witnessing the executions, Kelsier opens up about his remorse, as well.
 âI wish to the forgotten gods that those boys hadnât died. Unfortunately, we canât change that nowâwe can only use the opening they gave us.â (Chapter 26, page 439, TFE).
Kelsier does not want remorse; heâs full of it. He knows when to put it aside, however, and not let it flood him. Kelsier does not fit this criteria.Â
Deep Dives Specific scenes in Mistborn are contentious, especially with Kelsier. I have gotten into many arguments with people whom I feel miss the point of the books, and because they have a grudge on a character, fail to see things from their perspective. Therefore, Iâm going to go into these specific scenes, break them down, and lay them flat. Imagine itâs a UV Map of a 3D model; all little edges exposed so we can get a good look!
Kelsier and Bilg: Chapter 20 of TFE
Kelsierâs manipulation of Bilg is a key point in the evidence FOR him to be a psychopath, and I want to point out that while Kelsier had very good reasons for doing what he did, I am by no means saying he was moral in doing it. With that out of the way, letâs discuss WHY Kelsier manipulated Bilg into doing what he did, and the emotions that brought him to this point.
Itâs not explained outwardly in the text, but Kelsier has some pretty major PTSD surrounding his time in the pits. He pauses before entering the crack, and uses this moment to impress the men; but inwardly heâs not enjoying having to enter this thin crack in the earth and delve into darkness. We get to hear his inner thoughts, but to all others, heâs putting on an act of confidence and bravado. (Pages 346, 347, 352, 353 of Chapter 21, TFE).
During the first tour of the caves, Kelsier is thinking of Mare, her betrayal, and it gets to be so much he asks Hammond to tell him âwhat heâs thinking about.â Hammond proceeds to ask him a question that seriously disturbs him.
The question, which was if Skaa are meant to be ruled over by the nobility, stayed with him the rest of the week, along with his darkened mood. He realizes, as heâs eating the feast at the end of his visit, that the skaa donât really believe they can succeed. They need a symbol, a sign, and Kelsier decides to use himself as that symbol.
The reason he chose Bilg and his friends at the table was to scapegoat them into taking the proverbial L for the army. It was all to use his allomancy to empower Demoux and show them they can and will overpower the Final Empire. The reason BIlg had to die was the keep up appearances; those who question their commanding officers were executed. You can argue we donât know enough about how a militia is ran in the Final Empire, or that itâs nothing like Earthâs military, but as itâs written by an Earth bound man with Earth bound references, I believe itâs a safe thing to assume. Kelsier, whom weâve already discussed is an impulsive man, got caught up in the moment: his anger from the week spent cooped up in a cave that reminded of hell overcame him. He truly wanted Bilg to die in that moment. He superseded this thought process, reigned himself in, and let him live.
The morality of his actions here can be discussed, and no, it wasnât ok to manipulate Bilg and Coâs emotions like that. It wasnât ok to use them as a scapegoat. But I can sure see how it was necessary for a single man to be sacrificed in order to bolster several thousand.
Hoid in the Well: Secret History
When it comes to this scene, I wonât argue that Kelsier was being extra here. The man has been cooped up in a 5x5 spot for a long time, with no answers and seriously questioning his logic at becoming what heâs become. His only companion is an insane, unraveling god who barely speaks most times he âvisits.â So when an actual man comes by, floating on what looks to be a corpse, Kelsier is immediately on edge.
All quotes are taken from pages 228 â 233, of Part 2, Chapter 1, of Secret History.
â âWho are you?â Kelsier asked, stepping to the edge of his prison, eyes narrowed. âA spirit?â âAlas,â the man said, âdeath has never really suited me. Bad for the complexion, you see.â He studied Kelsier, lips raised in a knowing smile. Kelsier hated him immediately.â â
Seen from Kelsierâs perspective, this is a man that knows things and is holding back. This is a schemeing, conniving man, that is similar to the nobles heâs dealt with all his life. It doesnât help that Hoid and Kelsier have similar personalities. Note Hoidâs words, âbad for the complexion.â A similar line is used by Kelsier at the very beginning of TFE.Â
âFieldwork hasnât ever really suited me.â Kelsier said. âItâs far too hard on my delicate skin.â (Prologue, page 6, TFE).
âGot stuck there, did you?â the man said. âIn Atiâs prisonâŚâ He clicked his tongue. âFitting recompense, for what you did. Poetic, even.â âWhat I did?â âDestroying the Pits, O Scarred one. That was the only perpendicularity on this planet with any reasonable ease of access.â Kelsier has no idea what a perpendicularity is. Yes, he destroyed it. Did he know what he was doing on a grand scale? No. He was, to his knowledge, destroying the Empireâs main economic driver. Hoid treats him like a criminal when Kelsier was fighting against an unjust Empire, one that Hoid is very familiar with, having been to Scadrial before. Calling him names doesnât help.
âWho are you?â Kelsier said. âI?â The man said. âI am a driver. A miscreant. The flameâs last breath, made of smoke at itâs passing.â âThatâsâŚneedlessly obtuse.â Well said, Kelsier. Hoid plays games, this we know from dealing with him in Stormlight. However, with Kaladin and Shallan he gives half answers, or none at all, in a playful, non-demeaning way. Here heâs laden with vitriol and spite, for no good reason. It gets worse.
âAnd you claim to not be dead?â âIf I were, would I need this?â the Driver said, knocking his oar against the front of his small loglike vessel. [Kelsier notices Spanky for the first time, not knowing what a cognitive shadow just is yet.] âA corpse,â he whispered. âOh Spanky here is just a spirit. Itâs damnably difficult to get about in this subastralâanyone physical risks slipping through these mists and falling, perhaps forever. So many thoughts pool together here, becoming what you see around, and you need something finer to travel over it all.â âThatâs horrible.â âSays the man who built a revolution on the backs of the dead. At least I only need one corpse.â Hoid is being ridiculous here. Yes, Spanky is a cognitive shadow, but as Iâve stated, Kelsier has no idea what that is. To his knowledge, this man is riding a corpse around. Hoid is also forgetting that the people Kelsier murdered were far less than innocent; Kelsier can make distinctions here. A rapist and murderer who regularly abuses his peasants is different from a corpse used to wade down a lake of thoughts.
Kelsier folded his arms. This man was waryâthought he spoke lightheartedly, he watched Kelsier with care, and held back as if contemplating a method of attack.
Note the diction here; Kelsier is reading Hoidâs body language as he should; Hoid is planning to use the well to gain purchase in the spiritual realm and take that bead of Lerasium. He isnât planning anything wrong per se, but Kelsier has no way of knowing that. All Kelsier sees is a man preparing to attack.
âHe wants something, Kelsier guessed. Something that I have, maybe? No, he seemed legitimately surprised that Kelsier was there. He had come here, intending to visit the Well. Perhaps he wanted to enter it, access the power? Or did he, perhaps, just want to have a look at the thing Beyond?â
Wrong guesses, but good ones all the same for an ignorant man. Hoid does want something. So far, Kelsierâs waryness is completely justified. He tries to be polite, asking a simple question. âWell, youâre obviously resourceful,â Kelsier said. âPerhaps you can help me with my predicament.â âAlas,â The Driver said. âYour case is hopeless.â Kelsier felt his heart sink. âYes, nothing to be done,â the Driver continued. âYou are, indeed, stuck with that face. By manifesting those same features on this side, you show that even your soul is resigned to you always looking like one ugly sonofaâ" âBastard!â Kelsier cut in. âYou had me for a second.â
Instead of even offering Kelsier a crumb of help, he instead insults him, forâŚvery little reason. Hoid rarely kicks people when theyâre down; he instead punches up. We notice this with the Rosharan nobility. He doesnât insult the peasant waitstaff. Why is he insulting Kelsier? There is no reason to do so; heâs just being an ass to be an ass. Kelsier hasnât even mouthed off yet.
So far Hoid has treated him like an inferior, insulted him and been âneedlesslyâ obtuse, all while showing suspicious body language. Is it any wonder Kelsier is on edge and ready to defend the Well? He knows itâs for Vin; he means to protect it until she can have it.
The two go back and forth for some time, speaking of Kelsierâs bastard nature, skaa versus nobility, and Hoid applying some (I believe it to be dor, but Iâm not sure) glowing stuff to his oar. (in an effort to prevent it from de-manifesting). As they speak, Hoid edges closer to the well. Kelsier has been watching him this entire time.
He begins to ask a question again, despite Hoidâs rudeness. âIs there a way to escape this prison?â Kelsier asked. âHow about this?â the Drifter said. âWeâll have an insult battle. Winner gets to ask one question, and the other has to answer truthfull. Iâll start. Whatâs wet, ugly, and has scars on itâs arms?â Another insult to an innocent question, and now Kelsier is very on edge. Heâs obviously deflecting. So Kelsier decides to be as extra as possible in an effort to scare him away. Now, a cognitive shadow would, realistically, be as scary as an earthworm to Hoid if itâs not on Threnody, but Kelsier doesnât know this. Which is why he brings out his âIâm-going-to-murder-youâ routine that goes into lurid detail and leaves Hoid speechless. Kelsier even throws in a shrug.
Hoid then dives for the well, and Kelsier grabs him, determined to disable him, kill him, or just prevent him from doing whatever he wants to do in the well. Which leads to their fight, where Kelsier does zero damage to Hoid and Hoid proceeds to torture him incessantly as a âlesson.â He did not need to go as far as he did. If Hoid had been truthful with who he was, what he was after, and perhaps offered explanations, Kelsier would have been less inclined to act rashly. Instead, Hoid is needlessly obtuse, rude, mocking, condescending and tortures him.
It makes his words at the end of RoW amusing to me, as Hoid cheats in this fight and was the aggressor in every definition of the word. Hoid strikes first by the very fact he jumped for the Well. Kelsier was merely defending it.
âDeal with your own stupid planet, you idiot. Donât make me come there and slap you around again.â (Chapter 115, page 1238, RoW).
To tie this long, rambling, and somewhat insane essay up, Kelsier is not a psychopath. He fits only one of the criteria, and only somewhat fits another. Since one needs to fit three of the traits in order to be diagnosed, the man is free from ASPD. Through the essay, I have showcased his empathy, his understanding, his patience, his trust, and his love of those around him. Hell, he says as much in Secret History when wandering, his soul cracking from loneliness. Heâs a flawed man; he can be arrogant, egotistical, and impulsive, but he wants what is best for his people. No one can deny that.
me when. the 11th song on a 12 song album repeats the lyrics of the 1st song of the same album with slight alterations that make it feel like the grand finale tying everything together. sighs i am So normal
HEALTH - DSM-V

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DSM-V â HEALTH // RAT WARS
"Even before DSM-V was released, the American Journal of Psychiatry published the results of validity tests of various new diagnoses, which indicated that the DSM largely lacks what in the world of science is known as "reliability"-- the ability to produce consistent, replicable results. In other words, it lacks scientific validity. Oddly, the lack of reliability and validity did not keep the DSM-V from meeting its deadline for publication, despite the near-universal consensus that it represented no improvement over the previous diagnostic system. Could the fact that the APA had earned $100 million on the DSM-IV and is slated to take in a similar amount with the DSM-V (because all mental health practitioners, many lawyers, and other professionals will be obliged to purchase the latest edition) be the reason we have this new diagnostic system?"
(The Body Keeps The Score, 2014. Van Der Kolk, page 166, 167)
Narcs of Tumblr, if you could rewrite the DSM-V criteria for Npd, what would you write?