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do the dead draw near?

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i do genuinely want someone to try and convince me that primus tachonis's sudden urgent need to create a celestial monster in service to his house has nothing to do with yanessa halovar having a celestial monster being used in service of her house. like it's funny to joke about but
y'all can't actually believe that it's a coincidence
Okay so I have to break down these key terms and room names now because if you don't care about etymology you might not be piecing together what they mean and Why I say the Apotheon Vindicta was labeled "Hey Occtis, come in here to become Tansul/Tachonis Angel" and why Aabria was immediately like "surely those words could mean other things in celestial" and why it's literally built to seem like Occtis isn't actually making his decisions here past just the scar was existing.
Had a thought about the whole Build a Seraph Workshop plan that House Tachonis has been pawing at in addition to the mysterious âlong way aroundâ theyâre also working on. The thought:
It would be really bad news for all the Sundered Houses if anyone ever got around to properly following the instructions and forged a Deva Vindicta to target Tansulâs enemies. Because here in the present day? All of the houses would be on the godâs posthumous shitlist. Not just the rebels of Royce, Einfasen, and Cormoray. Hell, it was their ancestors who turned on the god, and theyâre long dead. If anyone would be on the vengeance itinerary ahead of them? Itâd be Tachonis and Halovar.
Tachonis, for obviously abandoning their duty as psychopomps and making any kind of effort to restore order in the afterlife, the better to bloat the Underworld and their own well of power. Then, because an infinite power supply wasnât enough, theyâre now pulling some cosmic level bullshit via mass slaughter, soul enslavement, and desecrating the places and powers Tansul left to them.
Halovar, for making the leap to pure capitalist parasitism wrapped in a fake religion, abusing one of Tansulâs last angels to siphon him for magic blood to power false miracles. This being the bait to get mortals in the door, crowing about how Tansul was a false god and all they have to do to be saved by the Light is hand over pure obedience and ignorance and, oh yeah, unknowingly sell their souls to the demonic Pit for all eternity upon death.
The houses closest to Tansul, short of House Obridai itself, have not only turned on his memory, but are actively smearing an already horrid history while simultaneously gutting all the gifts he left their families.
But back to the Deva Vindicta itself. Consider the exact words in Tannesar:
"In its right hand shall it wield my scepter, and in its left will it hold aloft the sun. Crowned in glory, it shall be terror to god and mortal alike, and from the earth and heavens shall no foe be suffered to live or die without its terrible command. No passage given, nor to stay from passage suffered without the grim pronouncement of its edict. Woe to the foes of man in the age of the final angel."
Then consider the exchange we saw between Tansul and his ancient priest:
"To make a servant in your image, what will we make it from?"
"Nothing can be made without sacrifice. Nothing can be made that is of worth without my dearest materials."
"What would be a sacrifice worthy of this weapon?"
"Sacrifice that thing which is most precious. And what could be more precious to me," Tansul extends a finger towards the heart of this priest, "than you?"
The same priest who was weeping, denying the thought of a world without Father Tansul, swearing the tools he left them for avenging him would not be needed. A priest who loved the Shaper of the Sun.
Tansulâs tools and recipe were intended to make the final angel in his own image with the foundation of it required to be one of his priests. We saw with Murrayâs vision through the spent Candle of Slaughter that Occtisâor any other lucky volunteer for the sacrifice--was never meant to be the real thing. He was a celestial soaring against the night, bringing death alone to the Golden Orchard. An incomplete Deva Vindicta only concerned with killing, not prevention of death as punishment.
(Shall no foe be suffered to live or die without its terrible command.)
Because Tansul wanted his final angel to be in his image and of the same stuff that he granted to his priests of Halovar and TachonisâLight and Dark, Life and Death, Healing and Rot. And, regardless of the graffiti and magic shortcuts, I donât think House Tachonis canâor truly wants toâput together the full-scale Deva Vindicta, even if that means only getting half the original design right.
The true Deva Vindicta must not, cannot, come into being.
Must not, because Tachonis and all the other houses are firmly on the Tansul Shitlist for all the rebellion and blasphemy and posthumous backstabbing theyâve been up to. Azgra and his orcs are no longer priority. Itâd be all about the traitors of old Obridimia getting set on the chopping block.
Cannot, because itâs possible that none of the family members of Halovar or Tachonis have the finishing ingredient implied by the flashback to Tansul and his priest. Physically, yes, the bodily sacrifice of a priestly descendant and their heart will get something out of it. But the reality is that not a single member of Tachonis or Halovar are true priests of Tansul anymore. Theyâre all just coasting on heirloom sorcery and angel blood. A âtrueâ priest, cleric, whatever else of Tansulâs, giving themselves for love of the god and vengeance on his betrayers and foes, is not to be found among them or anyplace else. Â
âŠProbably.
Vaelus and her fellow Sisters of Sylandri are still mourning. Back in a little dwarven village, ragged and bunched up close to a view of the Stormwrack, the faithful of Trozhna, Shaper of the Forge, still pray to her and plead for her return. There was at least one war priest of Azgra, the most violent and bloodstained deity in the lot, who refused to give up his loyalty to the god as he demanded a blessing for him with a dying breath; one priest of many to a mad horror of a divinity within the period of his being alive to torment and wage war.
Itâs not an impossible thing to imagine a real candidate for Tansulâs wishes exists out there. Someone of faith and vengeance and the right sorcerous roots. Â
If I were of the Sundered Houses, Iâd pray that such a soul never manages to find their way into Tannesar and put the altar back in its proper pre-Tachonis shape.
(Though I donât see Tansul rushing to answer.)
Actually, wondering if a Tachonis was a viable sacrifice to create the Deva Vindicta.
Brennan narrated that the sacrificial altar for its creation was inscribed with "Flesh of the world, heart of light." And Occtis saw through the rocks that a Halovar priest was given the instruction to sacrifice their heart to do so.
Now, Heart of Light could just be the celestial piece/calcidion needed for the ritual, and this is all a bunch of nothing.
But, Tachonis were the psychopomps of humans. The sacrificed person's soul needed to make their journey in death to the Golden Gates for the ritual. A psychopomp could help greatly with seeing this journey happen. Occtis said he wasn't worried about death before because his family would know what to do to give him safe passage, not he knew what to do for safe passage (which could be about his training, or could be about everyone needing guidance and not walking a path on their own).
And Halovar was the House of Light. So a Heart of Light could be reasonably believed to be one of theirs.
So it's entirely possible that the original ritual for the Deva Vindicta was meant to sacrifice a Halovar priest with the assistance of a Tachonis priest(s) to see it through.

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Currently making the connection that the reason the Halovars were resistant to the deva vindicta ritual is because the Halovars are all aasimars
Was Godard the first attempt? And thatâs why heâs got such corporeal wings compared to Wick??
One question I have about Tachonis' monologue is: Why was there a time crunch on the Deva Vindicta ritual? He said under a Zone of Truth that it was "probably" the last day it could be performed.... What is with that statement?
In its right hand shall it wield my scepter, and in its left will it hold aloft the sun. Crowned in glory, it shall be terror to god and mortal alike. And from the earth and heavens shall no foe be suffered to live or die without its terrible command. No passage given nor to stay from passage suffered without the grim pronouncement of its edict. Woe to the foes of man in the Age of the Final Angel.
It's an interesting descriptor for the Deva Vindicta. Because by the sounds of it, this thing should be of equal power to a Shaper, if not potentially greater.
Terror to mortals, sure. Any celestial is, given the feral ones were considered doom for the lands they were in if left to roam unchecked. It probably took armies and/or legendary heroes and/or weapons to fell the feral celestials.
But terror to gods? To people who can also make celestials? A big claim for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised that handing a celestial the weapon/tool of a Shaper would make it stronger than the average celestial. Good equipment makes for a more powerful individual, and the Deva Vindictia is supposed to wield Tansul's scepter. But unless Tansul put a large sum, or all, of his power in the scepter, it shouldn't boost a celestial to godhood on a level equal to the real deal originals, much less greater.
So unless Azgra was also considered a terror to god and mortal alike as a god among equals, Tansul was lying out his ass about just how powerful the Deva Vindicta would be.
Or there's a further trick to it. Some sort of amplification of power that Tansul couldn't perform upon himself to ensure Azgra couldn't kill him, or create the Deva Vindicta with before passing himself.
Given the Deva Vindicta is meant to be a fusion of mortal, something that grows and changes over time, and celestial, a construct basically set in its ways, that's not impossible that the fusion was meant to make something greater than anything that came before.
But the potential power of that fusion doesn't explain why Tansul wouldn't eat the loss of a priest he cared about to save himself from Azgra by making such a Deva before Azgra would kill him. It could be about maintained control over such a celestial. The changing nature of mortals given to entity of such power means it could choose to go on the offensive when Tansul just wanted something to protect him, so making it an avenger works better. (or more canon happenings of the mortals ditch/overthrow Tansul's ass)
Or maybe the trick is that Tansul is sort of part of the sacrifice to create the Deva Vindicta.
That without his death to funnel his essence/powers/whatever into this new creation, it cannot become that greater something to terrorize other gods, particularly Azgra.
And that's why the mortal soul must make the journey into death to go to the Golden Gates, so they can pick up the remains/soul/power of Tansul to put into the Deva Vindicta when they are reincarnated into it.
I dunno. Lots of thoughts about the Build a Doomsday Angel instructions and their implications.