I’ve been watching the antics of Carl Haavaldsen for months. Carl doesn’t care about anyone except himself, he openly professors to promoting Ponzi schemes, claiming to have made $4500 a day out of HyperVerse. He has been in network marketing for over 42 years and in the Crypto industry for 9 years, proudly sharing his journey with his followers to entrap them in the get rich quick investment opportunities he promotes; Ultron, NovatechFX, MacroGold, WippoFund, Pegasus and Everything Hyper and now HyperCosmos! When I saw this video of him explaining how everyone had lost their money in HyperVerse and boldly stating the only way they could get any money back, was by recruiting people into HyperCosmos, this outraged the HyperCommunity. I believe this destroys what’s left of the people who follow all the hyper Ponzi schemes. This is also a condemning video which I will do my best to give to newspapers in Canada showing help latently this guy is promoting Ponzi schemes. Watch the Original Video on my Odyssey account. In this video he alleges “100% clarity of exactly what’s happening with HyperCosmos” he also has requested the video to be removed from YouTube and has removed the video from his own private Vimeo account. The Video was re-uploaded to @HCommunity YouTube Channel, he formally requested them to remove the video. First off, I'm an affiliate, not a Node, so you misrepresented this video with your title. You did not have permission to use this video. You MUST remove it immediately. I have already reported you to Youtube for using my video without permission - Carl Haavaldsen The chat between Rob Woolley and Carl Haavaldsen is priceless, I've copied it below, incase he's successful at getting his video removed, I can assure you he won't be successful at getting my video removed. Carl Haavaldsen @HCommunity HYPERCOSMOS | PRO NODE MEETING | 2022 DEC, you have until the end of the day or I take further action. This is a copyright violation of my own property Rob Woolley @Rob Woolley I am getting flack from the company on this because they said there were some things that were said incorrectly, so I was ask to get it taken down. I am all for full disclosure but I'm also about telling all the facts. If I said something incorrect, the video must be taken down and redone. Now, whoever posted this, should have asked permission. It's a copyright violation to post other people's video without permission Rob Woolley @Carl Haavaldsen I bet you are but I’m not convinced anything was incorrect. Here’s your chance to correct it. What part is wrong? You have everyone’s attention Carl Haavaldsen @Rob Woolley the product is the Academy in Hyperverse as Hyper Cosmos and Hyperverse are intertwined. you can move back and forth between each platform. I admit is was poorly designed that way but a product exists, therefore legit. They just basically redid the comp plan so it was referral only. People buy Cosmos Packages as they bought Hyper packages and both have the Academy as their product Carl Haavaldsen @Rob Woolley the part I had wrong was the HB part. HB's are only used to fund the Hyper Cosmos accounts to where they are pending Frozen rewards. They will not be used for paying out the accounts as I stated in the call, I received incorrect information. So basically converting HU to HB, then moving it to Hyper Cosmos to a pending rewards in there called Frozen rewards like pending rewards in Hyperverse. New sales are now required to pay out those pending rewards instead of a rebuy feature they had in Hyperverse. And of course I said dollars rather than USDT, that upset them as well. I hope this clears things up. Now do you see why I need to redo this. I don't want everyone thinking I gave them the wrong info. I simply misunderstood the info I received and delivered it incorrectly Carl Haavaldsen Don't you want the real info Rob? I know I do so I can move on in whatever direction I choose to go Carl Haavaldsen Besides the title of that video was never to do with a NODE, thats what really got everyone upset. Now my upline doesn't talk to me so I may never get the real truth now. That's on you now if this is your YouTube channel. Reply Rob Woolley @Carl Haavaldsen why would that upset anyone? Wouldn't you be more upset if you were sold into HyperCosmos by someone gaining a 50% commission and all you get is access to the Hyperverse Academy and the chance to sell others the same thing? I'd think that would be a great way to make myself look stupid and lose friends. There's a real opportunity here coming up to Christmas to pay back the 1x in USDT to everyone in HV, HN and HC and just shut shop and move on. Is HN going anywhere fast? That would be a massive gesture of goodwill and they would still have the database many believe is the real value to them. Carl Haavaldsen @Rob Woolley I was just relaying the info I got. I now regret anything to do with this. I'm focused on Hyper Nation. I was just trying to pass on info. Not sure why you and everyone else is trying to smear my reputation calling me a scammer. I'm just passing on the info that I got from my upline. Geez man. So tired of people twisting things and using other people as a smear campaign because they are upset. I have never in my entire career ever scammed anyone. In fact I give a ton of money away to help people make money and this is how people like you treat us. I hope you are proud of yourself and everyone else that is part of this attack on me. Rob Woolley @Carl Haavaldsen just re-read this - are you insinuating this is my channel? No, I have my own and if you feel I am incorrect on anything, feel free to point it out. Would you be interested in being interviewed to clear the air on this and everything else? Rob Woolley @Carl Haavaldsen to dissect your points: You relayed information and said it was correct and you're now saying it's not. Why are those higher up not clarifying this? Why are they always hidden? You seemed to say HyperNation was floundering in this video. Did I get that correct? I've never said you are a scammer nor do I try to smear your reputation. Do you not believe this to be true? The people I see and hear criticising HV etc seem to have good reason. Do you think all critics are lying and these "opportunities" are legitimate? Were they not told passive income, 3x, then 4x? Where's the 1x in USDT as opposed 1x in HU which seems to have little or no value? In your video you say you give away something of little value or did I get that wrong? Do you give away cash or USDT? This isn't about your ego or mine. This is about trying to get the truth so people can make legitimate choices in how to use their money. People asking for the truth aren't "dream stealers", they are people who passionately care about other people, their money, and their relationships with the people they recruit in good faith. I hope you do too. THIS IS A TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMPLETE VIDEO Transcribed using Descript Carl Haavaldsen: Hey, good. Welcome everybody. Okay, so today I had a meeting with Pinakee Naik, who is my upline, who is direct to Keith Williams. And everything that I've been telling you has been absolutely bang on, but there's was a little bit missing, which I got clarity on today. So I have 100% clarity of exactly what's happening with HyperCosmos and why it's being done this way. Carl Haavaldsen: Okay? So I need to go back a little bit to HyperVerse. Okay. So the moment HyperVerse was halted and the reason it was halted because again, we had certain individuals in the company that were manipulating. The system, the payout system, by creating massive amount of accounts using bots. So those individuals were reprimanded or terminated, their accounts were frozen, all assets were frozen cuz they violated all of the terms and conditions. Carl Haavaldsen: Okay? Many of them went on to do smear campaigns about HyperVerse, about, you know, Sam Lee and Ryan Xu taking all the money and running off and all that kind of stuff, okay? Again, smear campaigns was something that was not true. Now, the reason that they had to halt HyperVerse because the resource pool was low and it couldn't continue to pay out everybody at one x. Carl Haavaldsen: Okay? So they created HyperCosmos. Now, the other reason why they couldn't pay everybody out, I shouldn't say that. The resource pool was low. The resource pool, the money in the resource pool was one 10th the value. So HBS in the pool were not valued at one to one. They were valued at 10 to one. Okay. Carl Haavaldsen: Because the value of HB dropped significantly. Okay. Because of everything that happened, or of HU I should say dropped significantly. So, so the hus were 10 to 12 to one value. So paying people out would have depleted the pool before everybody was paid. Okay? Does everybody understand that? Okay. So, Their reasoning for HyperCosmos was they're gonna continue to do what they're doing in HyperVerse with the, the payouts of the HUS converting to HB at a one-to-one to bring over. Carl Haavaldsen: But the only way it will HB will be one-to-one on the USDT is gonna be if new USDT comes in. Now, how HB will get its value back is that when new USDT comes into the system. So it doesn't mean you putting new money in, it's you creating new sales into HyperCosmos, starting with just a hundred dollars packages for people. Carl Haavaldsen: You will make an immediate $50. Now HyperCosmos is paying out right now on all US dollar. Deposits. So if you sign up somebody today for a hundred dollars USDT, you'll be paid $50. That $50 will immediately be put into your balance for you to withdraw immediately. It is happening right now. It is not happening with HBS because the value of HB needs to increase. Carl Haavaldsen: How that's done is for every HB that you have in here. I think I gotta share my screen just to just to show everybody. Okay. Just gimme a second. Just wanna make sure it goes to the rate screen. Okay. So I've gotta go to my account. Let me just, I just gotta move some stuff here. Sorry. Carl Haavaldsen: So this is good news. People are getting paid in HyperCosmos right now, but only on USDT deposit. Oops, that's not where I want to go. I need to go hear it and log in. Carl Haavaldsen: So you can see I have 78,000 USDT sitting here. This is actually HBS, but they are immediately converted to A USDT in the system. So the moment somebody makes a deposit, it doesn't matter what the size is of USDT, you make a 50% bonus on it. That is deme directly given to you. It will deduct it from this. Carl Haavaldsen: This is like your pending rewards up here. It'll deduct it from here, put it in here. And this is immediately available to withdraw on USDT deposits only. Now, let's say, Someone comes in with a thousand dollars and immediately you get a 500 USDT match commission off of that deposit. And remember, you make it off of any deposit that comes in. Carl Haavaldsen: Someone could put in a hundred deposits, you will make 50% off of every deposit they do. Okay? That then gets that, it, it takes out 500 HBS. So 500 HBS are then burned out of the, out of the system. Okay? This is how the value of HB will come back. So when every HB is burned, what that does is it starts to increase its value. Carl Haavaldsen: So at some point when you are coming over with your HBS and you're creating a new packages with them at some point, When the value has increased, they haven't said up to what it's gonna get to, but when it starts to make its comeback, they will then start to pay out in HBS. But for right now, it's only gonna be on USDT deposits. Carl Haavaldsen: They gotta remember, you gotta think we're here, you're taking all of your HBS from HyperVerse, it's going here. So now we're in a new company starting fresh. You guys are the very first people to, to register in there. Now what you need to do is go out and sell. Now some of you're gonna say, well, I'm not gonna do this. Carl Haavaldsen: Well, would you have done that in any other company you went to? So don't, don't treat this as anything any different than any other company you would go to. If you want your money from HyperVerse, this is the only way it's gonna get done. Now you're either gonna run away in a huff and puffy situation, and that's fine. Carl Haavaldsen: It's all okay. But those that want their money out, We'll go out and make hundred dollars sales and get a $50 commission to it, and they'll sell hundreds and hundreds of hundred dollars and they'll just be cashing out $50 at a time. Now, if they did a trickle fee like they did at a half percent a day, someone will put in a thousand dollars and you only get $10 a day. Carl Haavaldsen: Would you rather not get a $500 commission or $10 a day? What would you rather get? Because at the end of the month, you're still making more on a 50% commission. You understand? And you're getting your money out faster. So treat this like it's a brand new company, which it is, but the company has already given you funds ahead of time. Carl Haavaldsen: You didn't have to Audience: deposit anything. Carl Haavaldsen: So all you have to do is go out there and promote HyperCosmos as a get a 50% commission off of every sale you. That's all you have to do because that is what's gonna attract people coming in here. They'll come in here with a hundred. They'll also come in here with a thousand, even 10,000 if they know that they can make a 50% commission on every package. Carl Haavaldsen: And believe me, there are people out there that have money, but they're not, they don't have our previous situation of HyperVerse stuck in their head about, oh, this company, you can't have that. You have to erase that. You have to leave the past in the past and start present right here. I'm telling you now, this is how you will get your money out. Carl Haavaldsen: It is not that hard if you're passive, passive. Excuse. Hang on. I didn't say there was questions yet. I will tell. I will ask questions. I I'm almost done. One sec. Okay. So the company has given you a seed to start with to start getting your money out. A normal business says you would have to put money in in order to get your money out here. Carl Haavaldsen: You don't. Here they're giving you what you've already earned in HyperVerse and putting it here. For those of you that are brand new here and haven't been to my calls before, it is illegal for a company to take pool money from one company and throw it into another company without consent. That's why everybody has to transition over at some point in time, after a certain amount of HB are burned and the value has increased, then they can start paying out with HBS and USDT. Carl Haavaldsen: So it will start to churn at some point. But the, the, the, the actual liquidity pool for HyperCosmos has to start getting filled. There's no other way to do it at this point, because if they started using HBS, we will liquidate the pool in a week because of the value that HB is right now. Okay. So, Let me take some questions. Carl Haavaldsen: Put up your hand. Just click the reactions button and raise your hand and I will take questions. Okay. Dio, go ahead. Carl Haavaldsen: Okay. Hi, Carl. Hi. How you Audience: doing? Carl Haavaldsen: Okay, I'm good. How about you? Audience: Okay. Carl Haavaldsen: I do understand that Audience: To, Carl Haavaldsen: to be able to withdraw in upper customers, we have to, to bring people who we, who will buy Audience: minimum 100 package. Yep. And, Carl Haavaldsen: We will benefit Audience: 50 percentage Carl Haavaldsen: of their of Audience: their, their package, right? Correct. Yep. Audience: So, I would like Carl Haavaldsen: to know the promotion. You want Audience: to start? Carl Haavaldsen: Oh, I'm gonna talk about that a little bit later. I'm gonna, I just wanna talk about this part here. I will talk about the promotion later. Okay. Okay. Just, just not on, just not right now. Because I, I've got a time slot. I wanna put that in. So I'll talk about that, about 20 minutes. Carl Haavaldsen: So I have a question. Should just, you gotta put up your hand please. We do everybody in order. Thank you. Okay. So I'll answer that question in about 15 minutes. Dio, Donny. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Peter, go ahead. Hi, Cal. Hi. Audience: Quick question I can't get my is we invite new people into the business and they're pouring, let's say, a thousand dollars in, oh. Audience: Do they get paid? Do they get paid on a daily Carl Haavaldsen: basis or they get paid per package sale? See, everything is paid instantly. So when you make a. So someone decides from outside, I've never been in here, into HyperVerse or, or anything. They come in and they buy a hundred dollars package. You immediately will get $50, which will be deducted from your total in there and immediately cashable. Carl Haavaldsen: Yeah. Okay. So it it's all immediate cashable. Okay. This is how the company is trying to win everybody back. But the compromise is, is they need the pool filled so it requires new money. They're not asking you to put your own money in. No, no, no, no, no. They're asking you to just refer people. You could buy a package in there with USDT and start that if you wanted to. Carl Haavaldsen: But they're not saying for you to do that. Audience: No, no. If I, I was talking to a guy yesterday and basically he was telling. You know, you know my story and things like that. And I asked, he says, well, how would Carl Haavaldsen: I do that? Then I, I couldn't explain Audience: to him if he puts a th like saying in IBU, if you put a thousand, then you've got like $5 a day, didn't you? Audience: Yeah. How, how does he make Carl Haavaldsen: his money? Well, those people, again, you are going to convert your H Hus to HBS. You're gonna move 'em over to HyperCosmos. Read the full article

Transcribed using Descript Danny de Hek: I'm recording now. We're live. Rob. Rob Woolley: Hi, my name's Rob. And your name is Ronnie. Oh, not the Hi Ronnie. AKA Danny de Hek: Danny. Yeah. No, I'm Danny de Hek. Yes. Rob Woolley: Yep. Sorry, we're starting this video a little bit late because Danny's head was so big. We had to widen the door to get him in tonight, where I shave my eyebrows. Rob Woolley: He, he was in the New York Times yesterday. Was I? Yes. Danny de Hek: What didn't you tell me? You told me. Oh yeah. Sorry. I woke up. Thought it was a dream. Rob Woolley: So we are gonna be talking about everything, HyperNation, HyperVerse, HyperFund, Hyper HyperBole, even Hyper HyperBolic, whatever that is. Rhetorical devices, we're gonna use them all. Rob Woolley: But actually what we are gonna do is I'm gonna ask Danny cuz I haven't been, I haven't been surfing the Hyper highway of news on what is all up to date on HyperNation in particular. So, Danny, Danny, Danny, Danny, Danny, what have I missed out on in the last four weeks? Well, Danny de Hek: brace yourself. People are now living in the, in the EcoSystem. Danny de Hek: No way. Nah, it's a joke. . No, that's such thing is it? I know. Rob Woolley: Efi, do you know? Did I heard the other day I shot you? Not I heard the other day. Right? There's actually many HyperVerses. Even roadblocks, which my daughter plays is actually a not, No, not a, not a HyperVerse. A MetaVerse. Oh. Danny de Hek: Well, I think I, I don't play games at all. Danny de Hek: I hate games. And I think the gaming people have been doing the MetaVerse stuff for a long time. Mm. And I think the whole thing is bringing the, the 50 year old plus people into the gaming world, because I actually, when I listen to all the stuff that's going on with HyperNation at the moment, I actually, it sounds like a game. Danny de Hek: And they've just bought themselves a ticket for an arcade Rob Woolley: game. It certainly does sound like a game. I'm not too sure anybody's winning from that game so far, but HyperGame. It, it is. Yeah. It's a hope a it was like a squid game, but without squid. No, it's like a gambling. Yes. So any, Anyway, anyway, the last, the last I got involved, they, they were trying to get everybody their one X back. Rob Woolley: Those people that had invested in HyperVerse, they were trying to get their one X back. And there was something about if you Danny de Hek: they've, they've actually already started paying people back their one X. Did you know that that's what they've come out with? Seriously. Just in the last couple of weeks, they have now said that process has begun and everyone's going, Well, why haven't I got any money back? Rob Woolley: So my, my understanding was, That you were gonna get paid back your initial investment, which personally I think is totally impossible. I can't see how they could possibly do that, but has, has that started about Danny de Hek: six, seven weeks ago, they said that they will probably do something like produce some sort of coin. Danny de Hek: And that probably is actually now the fact, and it's called Hyper bond. Rob Woolley: So you paid cash Yeah. To get your initial membership, but people aren't actually gonna get paid Danny de Hek: back cash. No. They, they've decided that they would pay out the rewards in another token that no one knows. And they get this, no one knows the value of this token Danny de Hek: Yeah. Right. However you can do things with this token. Like what? Get into the next Ponzi scheme, Rob Woolley: which is, Yeah. So let's let Wellnation or another thing, Danny de Hek: So originally well, I spoke to a guy who invested 25,000, Yeah. $25,000 of his U S D T. He now has 200,000 plus HU dollars in his HyperVerse account. Danny de Hek: Now they at one point were worth like $7 each on the exchange. I could be wrong, but around about $7 each. Today they are worth 0, 0, 0 0 1 Rob Woolley: cent. Is this the H V T? Danny de Hek: No, this is h u I think. And then there was also H V T. Now I'm not genius on this and I could be saying things wrong, but originally when you went and put $25,000 into HyperVerse, that would give you $50,000 h u and then once, and that would be the, the reward money that grew each day. Danny de Hek: And you would get your rewards and then you would transfer your HU into H V T HyperVerse token, right? Then all of a sudden HU started to be worth nothing. HyperVerse Token was also parallel. Nothing. Rob Woolley: So HyperVerse token is H V T? Yeah. Yeah, because I know there's one you can go on, you can have a look online and it's worth like 0 cent or whatever. Rob Woolley: Yeah. Danny de Hek: Yeah. So is m o f molecular structure or something, or rather, So basically any coin that's been associated with Hyper capital, HyperFund HyperVerse has been pumped and dumped, and now they have Hian D. So what's that? Oh Rob Woolley: H Danny de Hek: and d. Yeah. And there's also an h and t now at the moment, people are accumulating, and I could be wrong, but I think I've got this right cause it is complicated that people are accumulating HyperNation d in the back end of HyperNation and that hasn't even got onto the market yet. Danny de Hek: So there's no such coin on any exchange that people are getting accumulating their wealth. Rob Woolley: So basically this token or dollar, cuz I know Yeah, right. There was an H and Dation dollar and Aian token, H and t and I think one went on an exchange or was launched when they did the launch or something like that. Rob Woolley: But the thing that really interested me when I was watching that HyperNation launch is talking about white papers and yellow papers and basically nothing was gonna be starting until next year. Late, late next year, late 2023. Danny de Hek: Can you imagine that You're an architect and you're gonna build a house, and then halfway through building the house, all right, nice house, the, the the bank says, Oh, by the way, we haven't got the plans of the house ready yet. Danny de Hek: So that's the white paper. Mm-hmm. . And then once you've got these plans ready, you get an idea of the concept of your house. But then those white papers need to go off and they make yellow. So HyperNation hasn't even got a white paper yet, so it hasn't even got a plan of build or structure. And then even if it is like, you know how some designers go far out design and then it goes to the structural engineer. Danny de Hek: The structural engineer goes, No mate, that's gonna cost far too much to build. So that's what the yellow paper is all about. So, Rob Woolley: HIN nation's clean. If I, if I can interrupt you right there, the one thing that I find re really fascinating is that if you read up about HyperFund and what it was supposed to have done is you read up about HyperVerse and what it was supposed to have done and you're reading up now about Iation and what it's planning to do is that it doesn't really matter what iteration it is, they haven't done anything. Rob Woolley: And yet there was a video where Ryan Zoo was saying that they were, I don't quote me on this, I could be wrong. A thousand developers working. What have they, what have they done? Danny de Hek: Yeah, that was I think Hyper H Cash. And, and was he Well he didn't insinuate he said he had a thousand people. Mm. That was just December, 2021 cuz he was in Okay. Danny de Hek: He was in Dubai with Brenda Ch Cal Patel and Keith Williams. That's right. And also Bitcoin Rodney. Right. And my opinion, they are HyperVerse and Hibernian and they were the people that I reckon they went to Dubai and they were planning this whole. Rob Woolley: Yeah, I, I, well, I struggle with a lot of these concepts. Rob Woolley: Yeah. And like, first of all, I struggle with the, the only real thing about crypto involved in any of these schemes is that if you want to get involved, you have to pay crypto, which is basically untraceable. Danny de Hek: Yeah. A lot of people come to me and go, Well, why don't the police do something about it? Why don't we do a, a high court injunction? Danny de Hek: And I just say, They've got the money. There's no proof. It's, I don't even know, I mean, you know, you can't go to court and say, I think they'd have to have proof. Rob Woolley: I, I think you'd have to, like, a lot of people are quite critical, and I find it interesting about the regulation and about normal currency, but the advantage with regulation is that people who are investing in anything I protected and with normal currency there's a paper trail, you know, like, you know, where the money went from one account into another account. Rob Woolley: Yeah. The moment that you're paying anything with crypto, you are paying into a crypto wallet and you have no idea who owns the wallet that you just, deposited money into, like, for example, , anybody who has become a member of any of the, any crypto scheme. Mm-hmm. you don't like, you didn't pay into j blog's account number, blah, blah, blah. Rob Woolley: At certain bank you paid into a massive number. Yeah. And you have no idea who owned that number or who had access, you know, to Danny de Hek: that number. Yeah. I'd like to go back actually to talk about the people that got stuck in HyperVerse, cuz I know there's lots of people who have lost a lot of money. So they've been playing around with them, basically saying they're gonna get their one times back. Danny de Hek: And if you're not familiar with the one times theory, it's basically if you put a thousand dollars in, they're alleging that you're gonna get your a thousand dollars back. But they've created this coin called Hyper Bond. And the Hyper bond can only be used to gain entry into HyperNation. Now, to get into HyperNation, imagine going to a nightclub and there's a, what do you call those guys? Danny de Hek: A bouncer outside. Yep. And he's decided to put a cover charge in just getting into the nightclub. So originally they told everyone that they could pay a hundred H U t U S D T to get a passport, which is labeled A N F T, just to get into the new platform. And if they did that, they could bring over? Danny de Hek: No, no, they couldn't bring over. Cuz they had different levels and you could buy a purple NFT for $10,000 or a platinum NFT for a hundred thousand dollars, which mean you'd be a node and be in charge of making some of the big decisions. But the 10,000 NFD holders basically could bring their, their 20 levels over. Danny de Hek: And I learned a lot about 20 levels just a wee while ago, which I'd like to share later on. I'm glad you did because it's amazing and I realize why they don't care that they're paying $10,000 for an NFT, but the hundred dollars NFT was like the nightclub the bouncers cover charge. Rob Woolley: So my understanding is that there's a green box and a yellow box. Rob Woolley: A purple and a platinum. So just for any viewers to keep up there. Not an expert on this. I Danny de Hek: feel silly explaining it cause it sounds like a stupid thing. I know, I know. We don't, we don't believe this by the way. We don't believe this. We're just repeating what they're teaching people who are believing it in it. Rob Woolley: A hundred dollars U S D T or U S D U S D T I think it is, is the green box, Danny de Hek: which no green box I think is 125 or $130. Rob Woolley: No, you could be right. You could be right. Is it 300 U S D T? Which is the yellow? No, you're Danny de Hek: getting confused. I'll explain it. You, you listen. So if you were an existing member of HyperVerse Yeah. Danny de Hek: You got a discount and you could get in Basical. For a hundred dollars with a yellow box. And then you could get ready and you'd sit there ready to be on the vessel, as they said, off to the Hyper HyperNation. Yeah. Yeah. And people that had got your ticket, no association with any of the Ponzi schemes beforehand who were fresh, they could buy, They let this green box drop and people could then pay, I think it was 125 for a green box and have the same privilege as a yellow box holder hat. Danny de Hek: Except it was a little bit more. So basically, if you wanted to get into HyperNation and you believe that HyperVerse wasn't a company and you believe that I'm gonna go to HyperNation, you were getting a discount of 20% roughly the cause you had already been in HyperVerse. Okay. I Rob Woolley: knew, I knew there was a 20% discount there somewhere. Danny de Hek: I'll tell you that in a minute. Cause you haven't quite got it yet. Rob Woolley: Yeah, yeah. No, I probably haven't. I, I totally agree. I probably haven't. I knew there was a 20% discount if you were moving from HyperVerse somehow to HyperNation. But the other thing that really blew my mind is talking about the gamers and the green box. Rob Woolley: Mm-hmm. Is that I heard it suggested by one of the leaders that a gamer would have heard about the Hypo Nation community yet so excited. Mm-hmm. And they'd be going and paying 125 U S D T, which is around about 200 plus New Zealand dollars at the moment to have a. Yeah. And I, no one, no one would've a lot if you're a gamer, you could go out and buy the best game in the world and own it for less money than that. Danny de Hek: Well, funny story, a lady I know accidentally bought two yellow boxes and then accidentally. Yeah. And you can only own one per person. And she said, I've Rob Woolley: made a mistake. And they're not transferable Danny de Hek: too. Yes. Well they wouldn't even refund her for making the mistake. Classic. Yeah. And I did sort of give her a hard time about why she did it, but anyway, she told me. Danny de Hek: So I thought, don't let the truth get in way with a good story. Rob Woolley: No. Right. Excuse me for drinking on online. It is sweltering hot here in the Danny de Heat. MetaVerse. It's the lighting, isn't it? Yeah. No's. Read the full article

Transcribed using Descript DANNY : DE HEK: Are you a Ponzi scheme victim? Are you contemplating suicide? That question has proven to be a lifesaver. If you have a friend or a family member who may be isolated, who you know that is involved in crypto opportunities, the best question you could ask them right now with all the doom and gloom that's going on in the crypto. DANNY : DE HEK: Is, are you contemplating suicide? What do you do if somebody comes back and says, Yes, I am today's Tube Cast and podcast. I have a guest speaker by the name of Michael Hemps Seed, and he talks about his experience in helping people who have mental illness. He's an author of a book called Being a True Hero, Understanding and Preventing Suicide in our Community. DANNY : DE HEK: He's also a 10 x speaker and he's willing to help people over Zoom who reach out to him, and he will give you some practical advice that you may be able to give to a friend or reach out to him if you do have those thoughts. He's willing to help. There's so many pyramid schemes, multi-level marketing opportunities, Ponzi schemes, and online scam. DANNY : DE HEK: Going around at the moment and people around the globe are getting scammed out of billions of dollars. Have you ever thought about where that money is actually coming from? The demographics of people that are being scammed is actually 50 and above going by my research. They get involved in these Zoom meetings. DANNY : DE HEK: They listen to people's stories who are investing hundreds of thousands of dollars. And telling people how wonderful it is and how they're getting their return on their investment. They're preaching a message of doom and gloom, telling people that pensions are not safe. I have personally interviewed two people that have taken all of their pension funds out and put it into HyperVerse being told that within 600 days they're going to get three times their. DANNY : DE HEK: When I first started doing these videos exposing Ponzi schemes, I thought people were greedy. I thought, Did you really think that people were gonna get three or four times their return on their investment in such a short period of time? But when I interviewed these people that were about to retire and they tell me their stories, I realized that. DANNY : DE HEK: Had been fooled. If so, if you are a victim, don't feel that you were silly. A lot of people will not talk to me about their losing their them losing their investment. In fact, they clamber, they keep it to themselves. They isolate themselves. Often they're widowed or widowers, and they've literally lost their life savings. DANNY : DE HEK: They are home alone. And that's why we need to, as a community, reach out to these people and maybe ask them that very question, Are you contemplating suicide? I have asked multiple people that question, and it has always turned out for the better. No one has ever told me off for asking such a personal question. DANNY : DE HEK: I've had two people in my immediate family commit. I was part of a religious cult. I was Asia Hoover's witness. My stepfather when I was nine years of age, took his own life and my sister, who was two years older than me, took her own life on the same day that my stepfather took his own life at the same age many years later, they couldn't live up to the expectations that the Jehovah's Witness Organization put on. DANNY : DE HEK: I have had suicidal thoughts. These crypto opportunities often wrap around you, a community. The community are there. They're often the ones taking your money and they're trying to wrap you around a community saying that it's caring and they really care about you. But when you start questioning the. DANNY : DE HEK: Where's my money? How do I get my money out? They throw you out of the communities just like they did when I was involved in the religious cult. So don't think that you were stupid. Don't think that you didn't know what you were thinking, and you can't understand how you made such a decision to take out your money and invest it in a get rich. DANNY : DE HEK: Opportunity. The guys and the girls that are in these Zoom meetings are trained professionals. Many of them have NLP training, and a lot of them have been multi-level marketers for many years. They know how to overcome those obstacles and those people that are negative, like they say I am, so there is help out there. DANNY : DE HEK: There. A future out there, even if you've lost all your money to a Ponzi scheme. Money is not the key to happiness. In fact, it's just about the love of money is the root of all evilness. Michael Hessey, as I said, is a good friend of mine. He's wrote a book. I'm not trying to push his book. We will have links to his website. DANNY : DE HEK: You can go there and read some chapters of his books, but more importantly, he gets the juices flowing. He's talking about yes, the elephant in the room, and we all should be talking about the elephant in the room. Let's not ignore. That these bands have come out here and coerced people into a doom and gloo message and convince people to put their life savings into a get rich quick crypto opportunity. DANNY : DE HEK: And then just push those people to the side. And then often you'll see the same people when one Ponzi scheme falls. There was a Ponzi scheme called stable fund.app, and that has just frozen everyone's withdrawals, and now they say that they are going to give one times return for everyone that's invested, and they're also starting up a new platform version to where people can use their. DANNY : DE HEK: Dead money to go into the new Ponzi scheme. Same has happened with HyperVerse. Right now, HyperVerse, they tell us their own statistics that 1.6 million people had signed up for HyperVerse. That means that the minimum investment was $300 or 300 U S D T, which makes. On the minimum, a $4 billion scam. People at the top made a whole lot of money, and these are the ones that you may have seen in the Zoom meetings coaching you to put your life savings in there, preaching a message that it's doom and gloom in the world and that your only savior is to take out. DANNY : DE HEK: Safe Ponzi money in your retirement fund and put it into a Ponzi scheme. It's terrible. These guys are now starting off promoting other Ponzi schemes. It's rampant out there. There's a real scam demo. I really need your support. I need to hit the thumbs up, share these videos, comment on these videos, and subscribe to my YouTube channel. DANNY : DE HEK: Hit the bell and you'll be notified when new videos come out. Hopefully next week, I'll have an article in the New York. I've been interviewed four times by the New York Times, and the article should be coming out next week, which I'm really excited about. It talks about the parallels of religion and Ponzi schemes and also my journey as a dyslexic person. DANNY : DE HEK: Now why? What is the parallel? I've noticed that a lot of people believe in the blockchain. They believe in the technology, they, they trust in crypto that is practically the same. As saying to people they believe in the Bible and the truths that the elders from the church preach, very similar parallels. DANNY : DE HEK: Then what underneath that is the communities, the brotherhood, and often they merged in the two together. In your head, if you're a religious person, which is the ones they target you can see there's being part of a community. I personally know what it was like to be kicked out of the Jehovah's Witness. DANNY : DE HEK: Faith at the time. I'm glad now, but it took me years to actually form my own community of friends and family, and I value that so much today. Very similar. The demographics of people that they're targeting in these Ponzi schemes are people who are about to retire, people that are being widows or I've forgotten the you know, lost their loved ones, living home alone, lonely people, and they've enjoyed being part of the community. DANNY : DE HEK: Now, these same people, Have found out they've lost their money and they've been kicked out of the community. I can appreciate what that does to us. And that's why I've asked Michael Hessey to come on to my Tube cast or my podcast and talk about some practical things that we can do to help mental illness. DANNY : DE HEK: It's nothing to be ashamed of what's happened to you, but the future is bright. So let's listen to what Michael has to offer. And let's see what we can gleam from his words of wisdom. All Michael's contact details will be in the description below. And remember, Michael is willing to talk to you over Zoom if you want to reach out to him. DANNY : DE HEK: Good morning. Welcome along. This is the Danny De Heck YouTube. What's Ucast Tube cast? I forget. It's a podcast. It's everything. It's my YouTube channel. Do what you like. So they tell me, Hey, today I've got a valued guest with me, Michael Hessey. I've known Michael for quite a few years now, and I think you're actually responsible for actually getting me into podcasting. DANNY : DE HEK: Did you know that? MICHAEL HEMPSEED: I didn't know that. That's something interesting. Yep. So that all the family out there, I'm sorry, it's my fault. DANNY : DE HEK: Yes, it is. The radio the, the Lighthouse MICHAEL HEMPSEED: was that Lighthouse Hope? Yes. It was a radio show I had for a while. DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah. That was awesome. And you asked me to come along as a, a speaker and I've got to know you quite, Oh, we must have known each other at least for about 10 years maybe. DANNY : DE HEK: Are we getting there? That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. So why I asked Michael to come on to my YouTube channel and discuss things what do you specialize in, Michael? MICHAEL HEMPSEED: So I'm the director of a specialist mental health service called Frontiers of Hope, and one of my key things that I'm particularly interested and passionate about is suicide prevention. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: I wrote a book on prevention called Being a true Hero, Understanding and Preventing Suicide in your Community. And it's been quite widely used throughout New Zealand, say New Zealand police have used it, New Zealand aed. So I'm very passionate about suicide. DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah, and you've given me some tips that I've actually employed quite a few times, and to my surprise the response that I've had is just exactly in line with the research that you said. DANNY : DE HEK: The one I will share is if you are talking to somebody and you think that this guy's not, well, this lady's not the right frame of mind, you ask them point blank, Are you contemplating suicide? Which seems like a really personal questions, but to my surprise, quite a few times people have. Said, Yes I am. DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah. And then what would you recommend you do when somebody actually acknowledges they are contemplating suicide? Yeah, MICHAEL HEMPSEED: the first thing is, you know, not being afraid of asking that question. Sometimes people think, Oh, that's a bit personal, or I shouldn't ask that. You could save someone's life by asking that. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: So never be afraid to ask even if you feel a bit uncomfortable. And then the big thing is if someone says they're suicidal or they have an active plan, stay with them and get them some help. If you're not sure where to take someone, a GP is a really good place to take someone. Hopefully you can see a GP much faster than you can see a counselor. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: So taking them to a GP or if it's a significant issue the emergency department at a hospital would basically stay with the person. And get them some help. And then once they've got more help, then you can leave them alone after DANNY : DE HEK: that. So you don't just tell them a few jokes and tell them to cheer up and change their diet. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: No. If someone's got the point of suicide, there's a good reason why they've got there. So always take it seriously and also remember what they've told you may not be the full story. So it may sound to you like they're getting upset over something really small, but there could be a big part of the story that you don't know. DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah, no, it's good stuff. And I've literally probably said that to well over 10 people anyway. And I've never had someone tell me off for asking that very question. In fact, they're actually quite pleased that I've actually showed an interest in them taking the time out to actually be insured of enough to actually notice that something's not right. DANNY : DE HEK: Yeah, MICHAEL HEMPSEED: yeah. And even if you do offend them, it doesn't. You know, someone's life is more important than whether they're offended or not. So even if you do offend the person, doesn't matter. Saving their life is more important, DANNY : DE HEK: right? And is it true that no one's ever died of embarrassment? Why is that wrong? MICHAEL HEMPSEED: Don't think so. DANNY : DE HEK: No. But yeah, so that's cool. All right, so the reason why I wanted you to come on is because I've been getting involved. You know, busting these Ponzi schemes. And I've started interviewing quite a few people that have lost a lot of money. And two of the people that I have actually asked, I've employed that question, Do they feel suicidal? DANNY : DE HEK: And I've actually said, yes, I have had suicidal thoughts and I, because I'm doing it over Zoom and there are in other countries, I feel like I'm a little bit help. And also, you know, staying in touch with everyone is quite hard work. So I thought I'd bring you on because a lot of people, what I've noticed, have been hot. DANNY : DE HEK: They don't want to come on Zoom and they don't wanna broadcast for the world. They're embarrassed, they've lost their money and all different other reasons. So I thought if people are watching this video and they have lost their money and they are feeling really low, then I'd like to be able to give them some advice, or I want you to give them some advice of things they could practically do and maybe the mentality behind people that get involved in these get rich quick opportunities. DANNY : DE HEK: Because money is a, is a thing that we all strive after. And when we have it taken away from us in a hurry it can obviously get those thoughts working negative. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: Yeah, should we start with that perhaps that I think a lot of people don't realize that, say, losing a large sum of money that could make someone suicidal. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: I think a lot of people think that someone will only contemplate suicide after a long history of depression. Maybe they've had depression for five or 10 years and a lot of people are really surprised to learn that. Suddenly losing a lot of money can be a trigger for suicidal thoughts. But many people have seen the film. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: It's a wonderful. It's about a man that owns a loan company and then one day he loses in today's money what's the equivalent of a hundred thousand dollars, and he thinks about suicide. And in the morning he was perfectly fine. He was perfectly happy. He had a lot to live for. And then suddenly when he was faced with such an overwhelming loss, he thought about suicide. MICHAEL HEMPSEED: And that doesn't just happen in movies as you've said, and I've experienced too with many people, suddenly losing a lot of money, unfortunately, can trigger suicidal thoughts in people. So we need to be aware that this is a risk factor. DANNY : DE HEK: Hmm. One, the patent there I've noticed of, these people who they have Zoom meetings, and I've literally been in these Zoom meetings where they have nearly just under 2000 people in these Zoom meetings, and they're getting preached due by the people who are running the Zoom meetings. DANNY : DE HEK: And there's a community that's all staged. And they come on. And it's kind of like these people that are new in here, they think, Oh, I'm part of a community, you know? And they're sort of pushed or coached. Getting involved with these things. So not only do they just, they realize they've been scammed. They also, the community that they're a part of, doesn't want anything to do with them. DANNY : DE HEK: When they realize that they've lost their money and they ditched them, so they lose not just money, they lose the community unity. . MICHAEL Read the full article