#deep dive?

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Another heads up, I don't know how to use Tumblr. This is my second post.

There will be more chima ones later :3. at some point.

Help I keep overly thinking about this

To start off Cragger and Laval are very similar in age, for simplicity they are in the same year. (Example: between January 1st to December 31st, of year 2010) 

It stated in Ep, Laval in exile, that Laval was just a cub when the last lion got exiled (Lavertus), mentioned by his dad.

So...

Uhhhh...

Either,

Crunket had already laid eggs or eggs growing inside by now, of Crominus children.

Note: in the show

It doesn't exactly show Crunket and Crominus relationship was like in the past.

 But in season 2&3 (I'm basing it off of arc's to clarify again) they showed a pretty decent amount of concern for each other, within the show.

Some Things I found Out is that everywhere IS started the lions have Control Since over thousand years while the great Illumination was thousands of years ago. That suggests a time gab and I don't know If there are more information. And I think Eris mentiones that, the Last Time the amount of Chi between the Tribes was uneven over thousand years ago there were earth quakes and everywhere Lava, before Level throws the crocodile Chi down into the gorge of eternal depth I think.

Basacly I Just wanna know If there is some Kind of darkage between the great Illumination and today or If it all actually is pretty Well known

Fair warning this is my theory's mixed with in show statements and one of the writers of Ninjago through a YouTube video. Anything in ( ) is my thoughts or what season and episode.

some of my notes / thoughts are not in order so this might be chaotic. This is also a very long reply.

1)  for when the lions took control of the chi, I would need to quote the great story and information about chi because I would need it later.

“We weren't always the advanced, sophisticated creatures we are now. Once many, many centuries ago there were no buildings, or vehicles, or tribes in Chima just jungles and planes. There were only creatures that walked on all floors. 

One day the sky opened up and blessed the land, pulling Mount Cavora from the heart of Chima the water that flowed from this mountain was different, powerful, transformative, full of a life force that we now call chi. Those who drink from it became smarter more complex evolved 

However some in Chima chose not to embrace the chi, they stayed simple and pure vanishing into the outlands never to be seen again these creatures are now known as the legend beats it is said that they will return one day when Chima need the most”

(Sometime later in the same episode)

“Remember as the first to drink that chi we lions are its secret guardians ensuring that  it's shared fairly by all once a month we disputed all the orbs to every tribe in China… even those tribes we don't agree with… There's always one extra powerful golden chi every month” 

Lagravis (S1 Ep 2)

(Whenever the mountain rises up and they drink the water, that's when the Lions took over, maybe? That's what I got through that)

2)    Since when is Chima Like WE See IT in season 1 with all its 8 united tribes?

For this question I need to find the great story before the great story.

(My answer to this is (before I go hunting for the quote, this is based off what I remember.) that when the mountain rose up and a chi fell the Phoenix saw the tribes and put the faces of those tribes with the bigger population. Is this for when they were created, not necessarily when they were United.)

In the show:

“Many centuries ago, Mount Carova was just like any other mountain, the tallest peak of all of Chima. This is where we build our city and this is where we hoped to bless our primitive brethren below.”

(Sometime later within the same episode)

“The great illumination, Its power can restore existence to its most pure and natural state, the world renewed, its creatures thrived, Paradise was embraced by all. 

Except for the hunters, they fought the great illumination with unrelenting fury and the great illumination fought back. 

The same power that pulled down the mighty gorge pushed up Mount Carova

The illumination pulled so much heat from the fangs nothing has grown there since and the hunters were left frozen in ice deep inside the gorge. 

The great illumination left a powerful energy field, keeping us skyward and safe from intrusion. 

The mountain breathed in the moist breath of the sky, Water now blessed by Carova’s illuminations energy brought forth the chi and the Phoenix shared it with all.

Everything changed once again, we carved the rocks above our falls in honor of these new tribes.”

Fluminox (S3 Ep10) - (edit: its Ep 4 not 10 oops)

(There's a recurring theme of stating thousand years or over a thousand years. But then it gets counteracted by the same character (any old guy or smart character) saying it was many centuries, so within 999 years give and take.

In real life a lot of people misremember how long the world wars took

 For example I thought it took roughly 10 - 20 years for both I was very wrong

WW1 4ish years

WW2 6 years

What I'm saying is hard to remember the order of events of the past

At some point in season 3 (I'm not going to hunt for this one at the moment) the Phoenix pilot did state that they hadn't flew the Phoenix jet in a thousand years or over a thousand years)

3) Was there ever a betrayal after the lions took control?

 in the show; 

(S1 ep1) 

With Crominus and Lagravis, in this scene it stated: they had the rule of plugging chi before the age of becoming is strictly forbidden for over a thousands of years (I feel like this is an exaggeration, gut feeling wise)

And that there was a lot of bad blood between the two clans in the past (so crocodiles maybe)

The wolves only recently became less chaotic? by Crominus because of the Wolf pledge, The pledge of the pack thingy. (The wolves definitely did something because of Ninjago lore or different clan of wolves)

I have founded the quote 

“Years ago during our alpha troubles. Wolves were scavengers back then, always fighting amongst themselves to be the tribe’s alpha male. The crocodile King, King Crominus, your father, saved us. He taught us to live, to fight as one. For this, we gave him the pledge of the pack, promising to always assist the king of the Croc’s”

Worriz (S1 Ep10)

(I feel like in the show it was more of like heated debates then betrayal, like a general set of rules for the alliance)

In Ninjago lore, the forbidden five betrayed the tribes of Chima/the Wyldness at some point.

4)  a rough quote of what Eirs said (S1 Ep3) 

(pretty much my Note form of what she said)

You can't put chi back into the chi pool

You can't hide it from other lions (other people)

Chi must be used 

Unless you make an unbalance of nature

Last time a lion kept too much chi for himself 

Chima had all these earthquakes and lava, that's why the lions share it.

(I don't know if this is the early version of Lavertus before he was an actual character or this was a completely different lion that was truly greedy)

(Later on in the same episode) 

Eris stated that

She hasn't felt an earthquake in years.

(This kind of applies that it was Lavertus or someone else stole chi when Eris is existing with a decent memory. Age 3-4 and up roughly for when humans start having memories. 

I did search up when eagle start memories but didn't really find anything just that they remember well)

References/notes: 

- Tanner Fishes YouTube channel 

- Doc Wyatt Blue sky account 

(I use Tanner fishes to get information, I don't have blue sky at the moment of writing this)

- How I did the quote: I went to episode 2, played it, paused it, wrote down what I heard then added on filler words to make it flow better sentence wise, no important information was changed.

- Century = 100 years (this is more for me I didn't what it was)

- Centuries = more 100 years