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hi this is Scott Schubert with trading mastermind and forex trading seminar welcome to lesson number two in this video series in this series of videos we're going to clue you in on some of the secrets to forex trading and we're going to start to demonstrate to you some of the key differences between how the ninety-five percent of people who lose in forex trading approach their business and how the five percent of people who win in forex trading approach their business and part of the differences are mental psychological and part of the differences are in regard to the specific methods that are used for trading and we're going to definitely get into some of those methods in this video series so what is the real difference between the 95 percent of people who lose in forex trading and the 5 percent of people who win you know a lot of people hear these kinds of numbers and are very discouraged and they think that oh forex trading must be extremely difficult well did you know that these are the same numbers that are universally well documented across pretty much all businesses did you know that that 95% of people who open a small business of any kind will fail within 5 years and that that information comes from the Small Business Administration and it's well publicized so if you hear someone say that oh 95 percent of people lose in forex trading well when I hear that I never thought a thing about it because I already knew that that was true in all businesses it's not that forex trading is extremely difficult it really isn't it's more a matter of that's a principle of human behavior most people fail and lose in all businesses and in all endeavors in life and it's I'm sorry to say that but the encouraging thing is that it doesn't have to be that way well the difference between a 95 percent who lose and the 5 percent who win is one percent a state of mind it is not necessarily what type of charts they use what training course they take or or even what trading method they use because the truth is there are successful people using all different kinds of trading methods but there is a there are specific trading methods in our training program that will open your eyes to a whole new way of approaching trading that is totally easier way more reliable and highly profitable but the fact is I could teach that trading method to people all day long and unless they have the proper state of mind they won't succeed it even if it's an extremely simple method that's how interesting it is to observe that because of the state of mind of failure consciousness negative thinking most people won't be able to succeed with any trading method now our trading method is extremely simple and you know it's relatively easy to trade this method and yet I can observe that I can teach this method to some people and they will immediately find some reason to not do it and that's their way of allowing their negative thinking to give them a way out of becoming successful so they'll find some kind of way of not doing it some people will look at it and say oh this is too simple and this couldn't possibly work and so there they go they're off on to something else that doesn't work as well and they're often to a life of frustration and failure or they'll say the the common thing that I often talk about that I find so amusing is that some people will say well if this really worked everyone would be doing it and unfortunately that's such a ridiculous assumption when you understand that there are an infinite number of ways that anyone can make as much money as they want it's not like there's necessarily one way or two or three ways there are an infinite number of ways that anyone can make as much money as they want and yet what's happening they're not doing it so the fact is if you think if this really worked everyone else would be doing it well that's obviously totally false because there are a lot of things that work and everyone else is not doing them what's everyone else doing they're sitting on their couches watching reality TV complaining and blaming other people for their lack of success successful people are doing something completely different from that they're thinking in a completely different way and that's the whole key and this is the bottom line anyone can become one of the five percent who will win in trading at any time they can become one of these people so there you are consider those ninety-five percent of people who are losing right now is there anything stopping them from winning is anyone forcing them to not win is it the government's fault is it their parents fault is it the forex trading industry or is it the fault of the training program that they purchased what is it with these ninety five percent of people who are losing is there something stopping them from winning well yes it is entirely themselves and anyone can become one of the five percent of people who win if they choose to and the most important transformation that they will need to experience is in their mind with regard to positive versus negative thinking now a lot of people especially left brain engineering type people I will listen to this and say oh yeah yeah Trading is a purely mechanical scientific process and just show me the method where the what indicators do I use and what's the signal to get into a tree well maybe that will work for you as a mechanical process and once you learn this method you will simply apply it and become extremely successful but if you if you were to meet with a lot of successful people and wealthy people people who are truly successful that is not necessarily measured in the amount of money that they have but they are happy and fulfilled as well as being wealthy and have abundance in all areas of their lives if you were to meet with a lot of these people interview them you will find that they all understand this principle of positive thinking and what's often called the law of attraction or what's called a wealth consciousness success consciousness and there's an abundance of material on this that is available in the world today because it's a very popular subject personal development success training and this kind of thing if you get involved in this kind of thing you'll see this universally across the board that all the mentors who teach how to become successful they all teach this and so if all of these people are saying pretty much the same thing about how to become successful it might be a good idea to consider that maybe there is a reason why they're saying that because it's the same thing in other businesses other businesses also have a purely mechanical process where if you sell this many products you will make this much money if you open a store and you stock this much stuff and you sell this many goods and you take whatever actions you make this many phone calls or you do this much advertising you get this much results you could look at it as a purely mechanical process and that isn't a part of doing business is seeing that the results that we get are directly proportional to the actions that we take so in that respect there there is a responsibility on our part to take certain actions and get certain results but always behind that it's the state of mind that is driving that so just so that you know our Forex training program is not about the introductory material such as how do you open an account with a broker what is a pip welcome to technical analysis and charts you can get that information anywhere it's readily available from many different sources and that's why I believe it's important that if you purchase a Forex training program you won't be spending a lot of money for that material and by the same token our Forex training program is not about success training and positive thinking and that kind of thing it's about a specific method for trading profitably that shows you a method of trading that is relatively easy to do highly reliable has a very high window loss ratio this method is enabling many people to capture the best moves in the market and get the best part of the profit when the market does move and it also enables you to see how to stay out of the market when the market is not going to move in a way that would generate profit and we'll talk more about that in the next video so in the last video I mentioned that the best way for you get started in forex trading is to open a demo account talk to for its brokers read a couple of books and that will enable you to become well prepared to go on to the next step without having to spend a lot of money a lot of time and frustration going through the process of trial and error and purchasing many different courses so hopefully that will save you a lot of time and money just by doing that now also I'm mentioning the idea of success training and positive thinking because it's extremely critical for success in this business but our training program is not about that I'm just going to mention it so it's a subject that you might want to immerse yourself in for the rest of your life the subject of success training positive thinking abundance training Law of Attraction training is called many different things and there's so much material available today this a very old book by our standards today Napoleon Hill Think and Grow Rich is an old classic and he was one of the first people to really write about this concept that the process of becoming rich is strictly a process of how you think and it has been demonstrated by many people many people who are wealthy and successful know these principles to be true so this is a good classic and if you actually read this book and do the things that he says to do in there there's no doubt that you will become successful in whatever business you choose to do another excellent book on the concept of shifting your thinking to attract more success is the book called the law of attraction by Michael oza and this book will help you to shift your thinking in a way that enables you to begin to attract more and more of what you want into your life because for many people we are already well conditioned to focus our thinking on the things that we don't want and by doing that we attract more of the things that we don't want check it out and you'll see what I'm talking about and when you become aware of this in your daily life you will see how critical it is if you think that this is not relevant to the forex trading business you might want to think again because it's extremely relevant in the forex trading business there are many traders who are currently focusing all of their attention on not losing or protecting themselves against losses and by doing that they are attracting more losses as opposed to the traders who are focused on winning focus on getting profit and they will tend to attract more profitable trades so the law of attraction is very critical in the forex trading business or in any business and in life in general Robert Kiyosaki's book Rich Dad Poor Dad is an excellent book that has helped many people to change from thinking like a poor person to thinking like a rich person and just like Napoleon Hill and many others so robert kiyosaki who is a very savvy and practical businessman wrote his first best-selling book and it's totally about how becoming wealthy is strictly a matter of how you think and if you think like a wealthy person you will automatically become one because your thoughts create your actions and they create all the results that you get in life and poor people have a different way of thinking that attracts more poverty rich people have a way of thinking that attracts more wealth very critical that you understand how to think like a wealthy person if that's your intention if you're getting involved in forex trading I would think that your intention is you you intend to become wealthy and if you intend to become wealthy you probably want to immerse yourself in the type of material that enables you to shift your mind to start thinking like a wealthy person and getting the results that a wealthy person would get as a result of their thoughts and actions

basically I'd like to stress the difference between us and so-called social trading in the sense that social like we don't consider trading three social you don't have to learn to trade alone welcome to the trading lifestyle podcast where we interview professional currency traders and industry experts who can help you improve your trading and your life and now your host yukimura hello traders and welcome to another episode of the trading lifestyle podcast brought to you by trading heroes com in this episode I had the opportunity to sit down with 1 colon one of the founders of Darwin X I was introduced to 1 through 50 pips you probably know him from Twitter and I interviewed him a few episodes back but 50 is implementing a his 50 Scouts program on Darwin X and what he's doing is that the triggers that are in his program the best traders are put on the platform he put some money in invest money with them and then he reinvest the profits back into those traders so he's growing the small stable of really good traders that he's trained and you know he's helping them progress their training career which is awesome so I think it's a great way for trading educators to invest in their best students and for people who know good traders but don't know how to exactly invest money with them Darwin X could be the solution now once on a traitor but I think you agree that what he's doing is going to help a lot of traders so he and his team have built a platform that allows good traders to get paid for their skills and you're probably thinking okay this is like my effects book or eToro those copy training sites but no the Darwin X is so much more and I was really surprised at what they're doing behind the scenes so I think Darwin X will open up a lot of opportunities for the average trader for the independent trader who's at home you know maybe has like a five-thousand-dollar account but still wants to trade for a living so I think this is a great opportunity I hope you enjoyed this podcast if if you want to get all the show notes links to all the resources go to trading heroes com 4 / podcast and you can get all that good stuff and I hope you enjoyed the interview before we get started remember that trading is risky and you could lose all of your investment this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not trading tax or investment advice of any kind past performance does not guarantee future results hey one thanks for coming on the show thank you so much units by my pleasure to be with you guys today and I really want to have you on because I think your technology is really exciting and I think it's gonna open up a lot of doors for not only traders but people who want to invest money in traders so I hope you get a lot out of this and I think one has a really cool product here so let's let's dive into this can you give us your quick rundown of Darwin X and how it works yeah sure well first of all again thank you for having me and it's me who should thank you and I hope you have a lot of out of this too and yeah there's a dar UNIX stands for the Darwin exchange and we are a marketplace that pairs traders with investors and it works as follows on the one hand where broker where anyone is free to trade their strategy and if they wish to they can list that sorority for investors to purchase and whenever investors so-called purchase it they replicated and pay the trader a success fee so that the fact that the trader has become a hedge fund manager from home under our realtor umbrella and the investor gets exposure to the talent of independent traders who are there who are not really listed anywhere and thus are exchanged awesome um yeah I think it's important to emphasize that a lot of really talent traders that aren't necessarily fund managers or didn't go to the best business schools or whatever they're out there sitting at home and they really do they really can trade and it's um it's great that you're opening that up to them ya know we see it as a profit exchange and I totally agree with you i mean the the internet has democratized the markets and you know well I guess society lags a bit behind and a lot of people still think that it's a you know going to some school that makes you a good trader but we'd like to disagree obviously we're not saying that there aren't good traders coming out of good cool but we're also saying that there are you know people who are very talented who perhaps that didn't have the chance for whatever reasons whatsoever to visit the schools and that still makes him a very valuable investment that that's why we offer it yeah totally I think people are interested in how traders make money on the platform but before we get into that um I think the first thing that pops into people's minds is going to be you know is this another social trading platform is it like etoro or whatever you know yeah okay well thanks for asking that because that's that's a question that that really matters to us we don't believe in social trading in the sense that we consider social trading a bit like communism kind of implies say hey Hugh you're a good trader and I'm a bad trader but because both traders you're going to allow me to copy your trades and that way I kind of free right off the back of your hard work with no way for you to know how much I'm making out of that and this is the issue so you could be telling me your trades I could be copying those with a billion worth of money and you would have none none of my profits and for that because once I know your trades I can replicate them without paying you the success for it and that's what makes it different we do not disclose the trading strategies the investors are replicating them but we don't they don't know real time but the trades are and because that's the only way to make sure that they pay the traders their success fee that's agreed and that's how the traders get compensated I see ya so just to clarify that more maybe I could go to one of these sites I could I could copy their trades the trades would come into my Metatrader and then I could actually have people follow my Metatrader and I'm not really trading it's the person who I'm following right that's what we've already had cases of that where there's people who sell kind of EA's and signal services and then their customers basically come to our site and then list the strategy for investors in our site and and that way they get paid success fee from investors on intellectual property which is not really there so that that problem is out there and we've had it like several times now so yes okay yeah so maybe you could get into how people how traders get paid on your platform yeah no it's actually very simple so that I guess the problem of the traders have is that if you're a fantastic trader who makes twenty percent per year and you manage say your own five peanuts of personal capital then you're making one peanut a year even though you know having the talent to grow money by twenty percent per year is it's possibly arguably one of the best skills to have to make money in this world right so what we do is we allow traders to make money on more than their own money by basically getting a cut in the profits they generate for the investors who replicate it and it basically works as follows so let's say you you're trading your own account with Darwin X and I'm a subscriber i buy your Darwin that's how your dick so called ETF think of it based on your strategy is called when I buy it what I'm doing is I'm basically taking whatever trades you take at the same time then you take them even but I will not know what those trades are and say if I start the quarter with 100,000 or say 1 million bucks to make round numbers and I finished the quarter with say a hundred million two hundred thousand bucks then those two hundred thousand bucks of profit our thanks to your hard work so I think it's only fair that you get a cut in that so basically the way it works I would keep eighty percent of the 200,000 so 160 thousand forty percent as early twenty percent or 40,000 I would pay to Darwin eggs and then seventy-five percent of that or 30,000 would be with the trader so the split is the investor keeps eighty percent of profits the trailer keeps 15 and our own ex keeps five okay that makes sense and yeah and actually this is important to also the spreads and the Commission charges are both fully transparent and very competitive so we despite the fact that this is all processed through our DM a program we are not overcharging either the trader or the investor so the success fees are calculated and pre low Commission charges because otherwise we could be eating into the the actual profit by competing so to say by overcharging the investors and traders yeah yeah okay that makes sense I guess the other question people would have is ok I have some money I want to invest in some traders um how do I know these traders are good I mean personally when I go on a site like etoro or you know whatever you see these robots that have these you know straight up graphs and you know that they're just taking small profits and eventually they're gonna hit hit a big roadblock but yeah how do you tell like well how do you tell a good trader yeah well what we do is yeah that's a that's a classic one Randy you see all these these curves I mean before for starters in eat or as I said I just don't think that a very good trader would agree to people free riding on the back of that so kind of that kind of rules it out and then we know that I love what's going on there's people are just generating like you know 50,000 very small strategies and just posting whichever one turns out to be lucky enough to be on that path to stardom for low for her for long enough so what we do is we look for the attributes that basically a skilled trader meets and a lucky monkey doesn't so we have a set of algorithms that we offer for diagnostic to the traders themselves that they are the six of them one tests the strategy for experience whether there's enough statistically but was that this thing is significant information in the track record to be able to just judge if that that's enough information to judge it then another one on risk management then on consistency checking how consistent the trailer is in in his strategy is he always trading the same horizons were the same take profits and stop losses or easy just all over the place then there's a timing where we check if it's possible to beat the traitor by either entering or exiting history it's slightly earlier or later than he does the the rationale being that if you're a good trader of course you always come in at the exact best moment and you always exit at the exact best moment and it should not be possible to beat you by going in same systematically earlier later that's the timing one then performance we really compare against the 10,000 random monkeys that take the same risks as the trader and see how many monkeys that strongly beats rationale being that if you beat all the random monkeys for a sustained period of time then you know your everything but random and last and this is a very important one but not least is a scalability and this is an important one because a lot of people optimize the strategies to make very high percentage profits on their own personal capital with say scalping strategies and tone but then they find that those strategies when they start trading sighs don't really scale so you're you have our idea that makes a couple of odd pips and you have to leverage that a lot to make that money then you realize that as you add money to the table then the slippage in the market is going to eat away your a couple of odds bit of pips whereas if you make kind of you know 200 pips per average trade then a pip on the way in or on the way out is now that you know they're so and the one that's making the 200 pips is more valuable to investors in that sense than the the scalping one because it's more scalable it can manage more investor assets yeah make sense so we have those great and the funny thing is we can prove that if you put your money on to the guys who have the high grade then you you are more likely to make money going forward then you would be by just picking one of those skyrocketing lucky monkeys in decides he mentioned and because it's easy to say this but it's more expensive to actually do it we've just gone ahead and do this ourselves so we're placing two million of our own capital in in the guys who have the highest grades every month to prove to people that a we believe what we say and be that you know this over time is borne out by facts that the guys who got the money are the ones who are more likely to make money long-term we see that as our best advertising with credible traders yeah you break that's an interesting point um I'm looking at your website right now and the headline says the broker that invests in traders and people are always talking about all my broker's you know turning against me blah blah blah but you're one of the one of the only ones right who actually puts your money with your traders yeah we do the complete opposite so all the other straight against customers and we trade with customers and that's we never liked by regulation we have deliberately chosen to be regulated as a pure broker that the ones that do trade against customers they shouldn't be called brokers there are broker-dealers so yeah that's a that's an important one to mention because I we only win if customers win yeah that's an important point so what else would traders need to know to get onto your platform well they don't really need to know anything which is that in a way where a bog-standard broker where they can sign up and open up an account with very low starting capital and start trading just the way they would with any other broker and in addition to low spreads and and knowing that someone that on the other side is someone that's trading with them we have as I said these algorithms that we offer to guide the traders progression so this way they can always benchmark themselves against other members of the community and also against themselves you know on an ongoing basis and it kind of provides a roadmap to focus on what matters to become a long-term investor on Twitter which is as I mentioned the experience risk management consistency then focusing on performance by optimizing the timing and doing all along this on on on scalable assets because to be the champion of the non-farm payroll isn't this is the only going to get you so far yeah that's true yeah yeah is there a certain time period when somebody has to have their track record open in order to be open to investors or how's that work and yep so there's a the experience grade which is the one that kind of assess is that the track their significant to the track record will tell you that so you have to reach a two out of 10 inexperienced to start being open to investors of course investors will see that you're a crook is very short and you have a pretty low grade but potentially you would already be in vegetable on that basis and we don't really filter out strategies we just think the community would be much smarter than us in doing so we just offered the tools so that people can form their own opinion okay and just to clarify I was kind of going through it and it seems like the metrics then itself better to putting one strategy in one account and then if you have another strategy using another account instead of putting them all into one charge Sakura yeah so up to now we have had this issue that is exactly right so without rhythmic traders we know a lot of them for good reasons operate several strategies within one account and that makes it more confusing because you know the information is not available to our algorithms to which trade at which strategy its rate kind of corresponds we're now fixing this for algorithmic traders so we'll have in the comment field in mt for the possibility of indicating the the so-called magic number data trade corresponds to and that way the algorithms will be able to assess the sub strategies within one account independently but it still gonna take is a couple of months to to get to that point so from time being it is as you say yeah okay makes sense yeah yeah totally um so if I was an investor coming in could I do kind of like a fund of funds thing where I create a portfolio of different traders absolutely yep so that that's how that's how it actually works the best and that's why we called our Winx on that basis he would kind of invest in on a Darwinian basis by basically setting up your criteria of what makes a fit strategy and you could make sure that your portfolio basic it is back the strategies that you considered fit for as long as they worth it and that basis we have seen some fantastic returns by essentially going into into the guys who who are doing well at any point in time not not well by performance but well according to our algorithms well on that basis you can build your own fund of funds which is rebalancing on an automated basis between the strategies that are more suited to the current market environment yeah yeah that's awesome I that part's really exciting to me I think it's actually kind of changing the pattern right instead of you having go pick the investors you just basically put your money there and let the traders fight it out on a you know like survival of the fittest basis and they rise or fall and you rise or fall with them as it should be great I think as it should be but like no one in the industry does it this way like right now you just kind of go to some sort of self-appointed expert and then he tells you a lot of blah blah blah and when he when he wins its he's a genius and when he loses its there the markets fault yeah yeah or it's totally quiet very much yeah yes those requires this way you cut out the BS and just let people fight it out uh yeah um so what I guess the big question now is do you accept us traders and clients yeah and I knew this one was coming so I'm afraid we we we take regulation very very seriously and we are regulated to by the financial conduct authority in the in the UK so we do not at present except us customers for trading having said that we have we're now integrating with interactive brokers and we're studying the possibility of basically offering the US customers are diagnostic service like the way we do now just like a software that appraises the strategy and we could conceivably given that we would then have access to their live trades we could conceivably kind of transform this into some sort of our signal service whereby investors outside of the US replicate the strategy and the the trader even though he's not really trading anything other than just kind of reporting us his trades with a u.s. broker which would be interactive brokers and we could then still share the proceeds of selling his intellectual property so that that we think is a promising Avenue and one we will explore once the integration with interactive book is finished but for the time being it is as you say unfortunately we cannot accept us customers and it pains me to say that because I know there's a lot of talented guys out there who who are possibly listening to this and I just now kind of really disappointed yeah it's tough I mean the regulations are so strict that nobody really does it nobody can do it so that's unfortunate and it's actually I think it's not just unfortunate thing is actually unfair to see if you're trying to basically risk in your own money you think as best as you can like you know who's to say that others who trust you were the incentives are fully aligned cannot do it I mean I just think it's yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly but then it's always the law you can't break in so yeah yeah for sure um are there any other countries that have this these kind of restrictions to be honest I think the US is getting worse and worse in this sense I think they're the have been issues in the in the UK for coffee trading which i think is right in the sense that if you're allowing people to copy you could be construed as being providing investment advice and I pretty that would require some regulation the way we do it is we are the regulated asset manager so that we take the responsibility for the guys who are under our umbrella so it's fully legal on that basis and and we have a lot of like there are regulations like China well there's no specific regulation for this where we have a lot of customers who trust the FCA seal of approval that we are we carry yeah okay it sends but even if somebody is in the US they can still use your analytics is that correct they can still use our analytics so you can hook up any mt4 account and get access to the full suite of analytics and yeah so well I mean we're sometimes we think what would happen if us customer traded our demo account and you know provided we told the investors this was just off the back of a demo account and we just did it for us customers may be that this would be a way out of this issue so we'll give it some thought I'm going forward because that that is I mean I can't see why that would be wrong yeah yeah just giving them access to the records and stuff yeah okay go yeah i actually just signed up well not just i signed up back when we first talked and then i'm going to be putting trays in there just to use the analytics so i think it's really cool i think you guys should check it out they have a lot of a lot of those metrics and proprietary is that correct they aren't but they're also quite explained in our youtube channel so we have a couple of hours worth of explanations for each of them and moreover we offer a free diagnostic service whereby if you upload your analytics completely for free even if you're not a trading customer with us we have a guy who will explain them to you so you can make the most use of it because we we generally want people to succeed eventually we'll iron out the regulatory things and it'll be great to have tons of very good us traders waiting to be listed for further for the investors we acquire so yeah we welcome everybody with open arms and we're very happy to explain anything which is not so obvious about the platform and I have to admit it takes a bit of a learning curve but it's very very rewarding when we have a customer we kind of puts in the effort and then comes back to us hey thank you guys I thanks to this I finally saw the light so for me that's kind of coming full circle and since we started this one cool of worry what do customers like the most about your platform what they like the most or um well I think they like the fact that we actually believe in them and so you you would only do what we've done if you believe that independent guys can beat Wall Street and I think that's a heck of a difference because most brokers did you say why you just a retail trader that that's how you call it and that's like it's a bit like saying like some sort of imbecile who is like a subhuman and they only want your money and in our case it's actually I think we're proving that we're after the the brains and the talent and the commitment of these people who despite not kind of working for one of these Wall Street houses that actually beat in the market and they deserve to be in the limelight it's it's it's a very it's a big achievement right to be a consistent trader oh yeah definitely regulation aside what what are some new features that you want to add to the platform yeah okay so like we are now working on a REST API that will allow any algorithmic traders regardless of whether or on Mt for or outside of mt for to trade through our through the platform and we're working now it gets the clock to basically Adam or asset classes so we're now as I mentioned launching indices and commodities and down the line once we integrate the interactive brokers platform we will be in a position to offer stocks and futures in addition to to the the current forex and commodities and indices offering so it's kind of broadening the the the asset classes and last but not least we are working on a trading terminal that will provide you with real-time interactive feedback on saying how much you know how to choose the optimal lot size for your positions real time how to fraction the execution of your trades so that you minimize the slippage for your traders for your investors yeah basically it's kind of providing what a trading platform that allows you to become a hedge fund manager from home really that's that's our our vision so five years down the line we would just like to think that a clever guy regardless of whether he were he is no longer has to go to work in New York or London or whatever to land the job as a fund manager cuz I really Dominic's would be home to committed independent traders worldwide and yeah that's that's our that's why we got this one going and we won't stop until we get there cool so before we end this i think it's interesting to get this the backstory grind this how did it start you're one of the cofounders correct i am one of the co-founders together with my mind my brother i guess the more interesting character in this story is my my brother and he's essentially an independent trader like like most of the listeners here he has gone through the tough learning curve of initially thinking you're just gonna get rich overnight and figuring out it's not quite a lot easy kind of licking your wounds and nevertheless persevering and keep keeping going until you get to a point where you realize you're winning consistently but you've got the peanut problem i mentioned earlier right if you just managing your own peanut there's just no way you'll you'll ever get anywhere and that's when you realize how many hurdles are there for that actually stopped a small guy from making a living out of independent trading and when we saw that which is realized hey there must be like thousands of people out there and there's gotta be a lot of talented people out there who do not deserve to be stopped out just on yeah on on the wrong reasons so that's how how does one get going I mean he it's a long story basically my brother he was a trade leader with currency and there he saw the the intellectual theft issue like people were copying history to put 0.01 lots and you can figure out what they were doing after after they got the signals from the mt4 and so on so we just didn't see that the lines of internal trader and what have you were a real option for people who were disrupted and which is caught there was an opportunity here for both for us and for the investors and for the traders and that's how we did it as for my part I've worked all my life in in in finance I know I know Wall Street pretty much from the inside out and I just don't I think it should be a fairer system let me put it this way so that this I totally agree with you yeah were you guys based we're based out of London and Madrid so we're regulated by the FCA management is in London I'm in London right now but our developers are also in Madrid where we have very good engineers and and can develop the technology much much more quickly and we could be than we could be doing elsewhere cool how big is your team we're currently a team of 25 so we have a sales team in Hong Kong as well so yeah now we're growing quite a bit it sounds like we're not alone with this one so I'm confident that we'll create a movement that yeah gets independent traders to beat Wall Street so awesome well on that on that note I don't want to take any more your time because I know you're busy you gotta get back to work but thank you very much for coming on if people want to find out more where can they go well they can go to they can either following is a twitter at the ad darwin exchange or just simply the visit the site with WWE necks that's a Darwinist and Charles Darwin and Delta alpha Romeo whiskey India November echo x-ray calm the Darwin exchange and they can also visit our darvany darwinia trading challenge and there they'll see the monthly capital allocation where we walk around talk by allocating currently three hundred twenty thousand dollars per month to the top 16 customers of our of our brokerage and yeah nothing pleases me more than seeing the top guy currently right now having made one hundred and forty percent in the last two years without taking out a dress codes wow that's awesome 01 located i mentioned was uh yeah we got connected through 50 pips who are interviewed earlier can you tell us a little bit about what he's doing to help traders out yeah actually 5050 is a great guy and he's been someone who really believed in us right from the start i can only encourage people to check him out what 50 is doing he's got this 50 Scouts movement whereby people who are trading with this group uh who join darwin x basically he's an intro to us and whatever proceeds he gets from our from from from the traders plus the investor profits on traders that he's brought here invests in the Razon traders he's basically building a prop community of the backs of the Darwin Darwin exchange movement and yeah we can only talk highly of 50 because the best few guys out there who are as honest as he is yeah that's true that's true okay well thank you very much one and I hope to talk to you soon you know thank you you and and thank you everybody who's listening I I really do hope that they can basically prove to the world how good they are and that they can do that food to Darwin XO thank you thank you for having me all right seal it take care bye bye thank you for listening to the trading lifestyle podcast to listen to all of the other episodes and get free access to forex trading tools tutorials and resources visit trading heroes 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