entirely unserious that literally less than a minute after this romantic poetry about her best friend she kisses that boy. It reads like the reason he's in this scene in the first place is so she can say this line.
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CW: not much, gay, lesbians scissoring, and need that. pure smut sisters!
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sheās on top, preferring control over the speed, pressure and knows your thighs wear out quick.
slow, tantalizing pussy-kisses, organic hand kneading the thigh draped over hers, mechanical fingers splayed against your chest, moving to your soft side to brace for more pressure. her pretty, dark features curled in a look akin to pain, but you know it isnāt, as she watches the slick and grool stick between your thighs, strings of your shared mess stretching, thinning each time she bumps and pulls.
low hums, blissful; āmmm, thasā good, baby, such a messā mumbles and soft hisses when your labia would brush her clit directly. youāre all incoherent murmurs, mewls, and whines. the slowness kills you. each kiss between your cunts striking a match inside your abdomen. she can feel how your hips twitch, a fire begging to be put out.
she manages to break gaze from the sticky mess of you to see your pretty face. whatever lazy style youād thrown your locks in loosened significantly, stray wisps of it on the pillow: eyes shut, brows stitched together, lips parted, pained with pleasure, features flushed. oh, she want this to last forever.
she slows but hardens, pressing firm rolls of her hips to yours. the squelching is lewd, obscene, pulling a moan from your stomach; pornographic.
her lip quirks; cocky, proud, sly, drunken. āoou you like that, huh? fuck, you sound so prettyā her curses laced with groans of her own.
she handily adjusts the both of you; your thigh a little higher, hers a little lower. she evened to your body, skin to skin; sticky from sweat, peaks of your breasts pressing firmly into one another, propped up by her mechanical appendage, the think finger in your hair, organic hand stuck to your thigh, ensuring you feel her as deep as she needs you to.
metal thumb swipe your jaw, a small āhmphā for you to turn your head. she takes your lips in a plush kiss, sloppy, wet, sexy.
sheād draw soft, perfect, blissful and world-melting orgasms from the two of you until you twitch, so out-fucked your cunts felt a brush of bruising, even numbness.
she leans on the steel and copper, untangling her thighs from yours, of which pulsed, ached from mind-numbing rutting.
she drags two calloused fingers through the core of the sticky mess. you jerk āmm, mm-mmā hardly more than a mindless hum ātoo much?ā nod. she kisses, firmer, more intentional now. less drunk. squeezed her fingers around your thigh; you press them together with the strength of a wet dollar-store paper towel.
she doesnāt clean you up now, sheād let the aches settle to echoes, let you get your brain back.
urged onto your side, she braced behind you, pillow-shielded metal under your head, lest youāre uncomfortable in her arms. organic hand braces your tummy, a few kisses on your blemished shoulders. she lets herself relax.
Why I think you should be able to romance Yosuke in the P4 Remake
Canonically speaking, Yosuke is pretty much Junpei 2.0. The straight bro best friend to the MC who is obsessed with getting a girlfriend. However, there was a romance route for him that was cut from the game, probably late into development. This would have no doubt recontextualized his entire character arc.
"Comphet," short for compulsory heterosexuality, is a term used to describe the societal assumption that everyone is naturally heterosexual. This concept suggests that people may feel pressured to form heterosexual relationships due to cultural norms and societal pressures, rather than genuine attraction. My opinion is that Yosuke's original character arc was supposed to be an exploration of this idea, due to how much support there was for it in the narrative. And hereās why I think they should add this idea back in for the remake, which is on the horizon.
In P4, everyone's shadow was connected to their sexuality or gender role. Chie was a tomboy who was jealous of Yukiko's femininity. Yukiko was a "Yamato Nadeshiko" who was sick of being fetishized as the ideal girl, which in Japanese culture, is often overly meek. Kanji was bullied because of his feminine hobbies and adopted a hypermasculine thuggish persona. Rise felt disillusioned with her oversexualized idol persona and the performative aspects of show business. And Naoto dealt with internalized misogyny which manifested in her adopting a male persona.
Yosuke: And what's this about checking out this world for Saki-senpai's sake? Hah! I know the real reason you came snooping... You just came because you thought it sounded like a good time! What else is there to do in this shithole? A world inside the TVānow that's exciting! You didn't have a single other reason for coming here, did you!?
Yosuke was the odd one out, as his shadow mainly involved his repressed resentment at living out in the countryside and being very lonely. His shadow also had the least humiliating baggage to expose. He had feelings for Saki. But his shadow self's "dark secret" was that he was more excited about exploring the TV world than genuinely investigating her death. Shadow Yosuke accuses Yosuke of not being as sweet on Saki as he appeared to be. However, this idea didn't really go anywhere.
When the Magician card is reversed in a Tarot reading, it can suggest manipulation. In a relationship context, it means that someone may be presenting a false image or facade in order to manipulate the perceptions of others. And that idea certainly fit Yosuke. He pretended to be carefree. But what if he was also pretending to be heterosexual? What if the "horny straight bro" was just a mask? Is there any evidence of this? Actually, I think there was.
Shadow Yukiko: Tonight, Princess Yukiko has a big surpriseāI'm gonna go score myself a hot stud! Welcome to "Not a Dream, Not a Hoax"āPrincess Yukiko's hunt for her Prince Charming! And I came prepared: I've got my lacy unmentionables on, stacked from top to bottom! I'm out to catch a whole harem, and the best of the lot is gonna be all mine!
The Shadows in P4 are partly comprised of the suppressed thoughts and emotions of the actual person. There was a part of Yukiko's subconscious that felt like she needed a "Prince Charming" to save her. But the shadows who showed up on the Midnight Channel were also formed from the desires of what the general public wanted to see. Yukiko herself didn't really want to score with a harem of hot studs. It was the male students at Yasogami High who truly wanted to see that happen.
Yosuke was very nonchalant about failing the "Amagi Challenge". He took it in stride, almost as a badge of honor. And I found it very interesting how he showed absolutely NO reaction whatsoever to what Shadow Yukiko said. Nothing. If it were any other boy at school, I'm sure he would have had something to say about the most popular girl talking about how badly she wanted to lose her virginity to a bunch of hot studs. But Yosuke acted like he couldn't have cared less. He just said that the stuff she was saying sounded weird and that was it.
Yosuke: I haven't changed addresses since before we moved to Inaba. I mean, I might get a text from someoneā¦It's hard to call, y'know? If I called people just to tell them my number changed, they'd get annoyed. And some of them never planned to text me anywayā¦ Oh but hey, don't look at me like I don't have any friends!
According to Saki, "Hana-chan" didn't hang out with the other guys much. But in Rank 3 of his Social Link, it seemed like he desperately wanted to have closer relationships with male friends. And that may have been the true reason he happily took on the Amagi Challenge when he was a new transfer student. He probably just wanted to fit in with the other boys.
Yosuke: Hahaā¦I never thought I'd be talking about serious stuff like this. Before I moved here, it was all small talkā¦Stupid, trivial things. I thought that was fine. It's only with you guys that I talk seriously like this. I dunno why, but I feel like I don't have to lieā¦ Especially with you. You've already seen the worst of me and all. But wellā¦thinking about it now, if someone had to see that, I'm glad it was you. It's a bit late now, butā¦ Thanks for going in with me that time.
Yosuke is smiling sheepishlyā¦
By Rank 4, Yosuke acts very different around Yu than he does around the rest of the Investigation Team. He never acts this serious or sincere around anyone else. The other members of the group also open up emotionally to Yu. But Yosuke especially acts like a totally different character. He takes off his mask around Yu and only Yu. He's probably the first friendāespecially a male friendāthat he ever had where he could just be himself instead of adopting a false persona to fit in.
Yosuke: I can't get my mind off certain things whenever I have a spare momentā¦
(option 1) Yu: Certain things?
Yosuke: Uh, you knowā¦stuff. I mean, wellā¦ Argh! Let's not get into it! Why do I get the feeling this is going to turn into a depressing conversation!?
During an evening conversation that occurs around Golden Week, Yosuke hints at some unresolved baggage related to his Shadow.
(option 2) Yu: Like Saki-senpai?
Yosuke: Oh, come on... Of all the things you could bring up, you pick that one? I mean, that's part of it, but... I dunno, how do I put it? Argh! Let's not get into it! I don't wanna have this conversation!
Saki was part of it, but not the only thing. And he was blushing, too. The implication was probably that he was developing feelings for someone other than her and he might have been feeling a bit guilty for that. Or at least, that was my own personal interpretation.
Yosuke: Y'know, Chie and Yukiko seem different lately. They're a lot closer. Oh yeah, I was just curious, but are you...Ehh, never mind. If we keep chatting, we're gonna be late.
But there is evidence for that interpretation. After Golden Week is over and the group is headed back to school, Yosuke attempts to ask Yu if he is interested in Chie or Yukiko. The fact that he was so hesitant about asking made it stand out a bit to me. He probably had feelings for someone within their friend group.
Yosuke: Oh, I almost forgot. It's kinda off-subject, but as long as you're on the line, mind if I ask something? It's something I've been meaning to ask for a while. Soā¦what do you think about Yukiko and Chie? I mean, let's not mince words: Which one's your type?
Before the stakeout for Kanji, he finally asks Yu which girl is his type.
Yosuke: Huh? Seriously? So that's the kinda girl you go for, huh...? She is a great girl, though. Plenty of fun to be around, too.
If Yu answers that he's interested in Chie, Yosuke acts a bit surprised. Not in an insulting way. He just assumed it would be Yukiko because all the guys in school were crazy about her.
Yosuke: Ohhh, I had a feeling you'd say that. She's actually pretty interesting. I never knew she was like that. My image of her has changed completely, but I like her way better now. Hey, but don't worry. This is just between you and me. Okay, see you tomorrow.
If Yu says that he is interested in Yukiko, Yosuke says he suspected as much. He doesn't say anything about her looks or anything. Interestingly, he just says that his image of her has changed, but he likes Yukiko more now after seeing her true self. Almost as if he didnāt have a very great impression of her before.
Yosuke: That being saidā¦Yukiko, can I have your cell number?
Chie: Heyā¦Was this your plan all along?
Yosuke: Uh, no? I got everybody's phone number except for hers. And the Y section of my address book needs some filling out.
During the stakeout, he asked Yukiko for her phone number. So, the player would probably assume that Yosuke wanted to go out with Yukiko. That is what Chie assumed, after all. But I think that was a red herring.
Chie: Hey, how do you think the others are doing?
Yosuke: Beats me. For all we know, he's hitting on Yukiko as we speak.
Chie: Yeaaaah, no. He's not like you. Yukiko doesn't seem to be interested in that stuff anyway. Waitāare you saying he's interested in her?
Yosuke: Huh!? Uhā¦Iā¦wouldn't knowā¦We don't really talk about that kinda stuffā¦Hahahaha.
Chie: Now I'm even more suspicious! You know something, don't you?
Yosuke: I-I seriously don't know! It's not like we've been hanging out that long, hahaā¦
But Yosuke actually seemed less interested in Yukiko herself and more interested in the possibility that Yu might be interested in her. Even if Yu tells him that he's not interested, Yosuke probably didn't believe him. So, itās possible that he wanted to become closer friends with Yukiko so that he could know right away if she and Yu started dating.
Shadow Kanji: I think that you threeā¦would make wonderful boyfriends.
Yosuke: S-Stop it! Y-You got it all wrong!
Kanji's arc introduces the idea of homosexuality into the story. And Yosuke got worked up over Kanji's shadow FAR more than he did with Yukiko's. When he called Yu after Kanji's Midnight Channel program aired, he was "too flustered to get his point across". And Yosuke felt the need to deny Kanji's Shadow almost as much as Kanji himself did.
Shadow Kanji: Accept me for who I am!
Yosuke: Wh-Whoa! I really don't swing that way!
It gave me the impression that themes of Kanji's dungeon were just as relevant to Yosuke's character arc as they were to Kanji's. Perhaps even more so in some ways.
Kanji: I, uhā¦I don't really get it myself. Girls are so loud and obnoxious, so, y'knowā¦I really don't like dealing with 'em. Guys are a lot more laid-back. S-So, uh, I started thinkingā¦What if I'm the type who never gets interested in girlsā¦? And I couldn't accept that, so I kept spinning around and around in my headā¦
Yosuke: Well, I can understand the part about feeling more relaxed around dudes.
Homosexuality is a societal taboo. It is often something that people suppress and do not accept within themselves. It is actually the perfect subject to explore for a game about the shadow self. I don't think Kanji was gay. But I do think that Yosuke was originally supposed to be. And a lot of what Shadow Kanji said hit a little too close to home for him.
Chie: Well, the night's kinda fun. We cook our own meals with mess kits and sleep in tents.
Yukiko: The four of us are in the same group.
Yosuke: The same group, huhā¦? Does that mean we sleep together at night, too!?
Chie: You wish! Guys and girls sleep in different tents! I'm warning yaā¦If you leave your tent at night, you'll be expelled on the spot.
When Yosuke found out that they were all in the same group, he actually stood up out of his chair. You're meant to think he reacted this way because he was thinking about sharing a tent with girls. Typical straight teenage boy. But I'm sure he knew they weren't sleeping with the girls on a school trip. His reaction probably had nothing to do with the girls. He probably got worked up about sleeping in the same tent as someone he had been developing feelings for.
Yosuke: This is as good a time as any, soā¦I-I want you to be honest with us.
Kanji: Uhā¦okay?
Yosuke: A-Are you reallyā¦you knowā¦?
Kanji: Am I really whatā¦?
Yosuke: What I mean is, uhā¦Are we gonna be safe with you?
Kanji: Whaā!? Wh-Wh-What the hell's that supposed to mean? I-I already told you guys I'm not like that!
According to Jung, psychological projection is a major aspect of the shadow. When individuals project, they unconsciously attribute qualities that belong to their own shadow onto others. This allows them to avoid confronting these aspects within themselves. If they had stuck with that original idea, I donāt this scene would have been so controversial and offensive to people. By taking Yosuke's same-sex attraction out of the narrative, the game felt a lot more juvenile as a result. Yosuke's homophobia could have been used to explore his shadow self. But instead, it was just used to take cheap shots at Kanji for no reason other than comedy.
Yosuke: W-Well then why are you all hot and bothered about it!? That's just more suspicious!
The irony of this line certainly wasn't lost on me. And I don't think the writers were so lacking in self-awareness that they didn't realize how Yosuke was the one getting all hot and bothered by anything related to homosexuality after Kanji's dungeon. I think it was supposed to raise some suspicions in the player about Yosuke's sexual orientation.
Yosuke: And c'mon, you guys gotta admit I chose some good suits. Those girls might be childish on the inside, but I bet they're gonna turn into some fine-looking women before too long! Don't you think so, Yu?
If Yosuke was always intended to be written as a straight guy or even a bisexual guy, this part would come across as misogynistic and kinda creepy. Even Stupei wouldn't buy swimsuits for his female friends. But if Yosuke was actually meant to be a gay boy, this is more of a sad attempt at imitating a straight boy to appear "normal". And if that were the case, his behavior with girls is a lot more forgivable.
Yosuke: Soā¦? You keep the goods under the futon?
(option 1) Yu: Huh?
Yosuke: C'monā¦No need to play dumb. Don't worry. I'll still be your friend even if you're into the freaky stuff.
Yosuke looks like he's having fun.
Yosuke wasn't truly interested in Yu's dirty magazines. He was only interested to learn more about what kind of girls he was into. I know they added a scene in Golden where Teddie finds Yosuke's porn stash and he shows it to his parents. It's played straight as pure comic relief. "Haha, Yosuke never stops thinking about girls". But in his Rank 5 SL, this felt like it was meant to be a more serious topic.
(option 2) Yu: Of course.
Yosuke: Hahaha! Why are you acting so dignified about it? Alright, I'll check 'em out when you go take a piss or something. I'll expose your embarrassing tastes!!
Yosuke looks like he's having fun.
The "embarrassing tastes" comment was interesting.
(option 3) Yu: What, don't you?
Yosuke: Haha! Like I'd hide mine in such an obvious spot! One time, my mom found it and read the title out loud to the whole familyā¦
Yosuke is reflecting on his pastā¦
It actually sounds like Yosuke was the one with "embarrassing tastes". If his mom felt the need to shame him in front of the family like that, it leads you to wonder what he was looking at exactly. Sure, it could have been some typical straight boy stuff. But what if it was a menās magazine or something? Depending on how traditional his family was, he could have received disapproval for that.
Yosuke: So, you ever invited a girl in here?
(option 1) Yu: I haven't.
Yosuke: Haha, maybe you're more of a man's man than I thought.
Yosuke seems happyā¦
Yosuke seems happy if Yu is not planning to bring a girl over.
(option 2) Yu: I will soon.
Yosuke: Seriously!? That mean you're working on someone!?
Yosuke is keyed upā¦
And he gets keyed up if he is.
(option 3) Yu: I have.
Yosuke: Seriously!? Who'd youā¦ I'll stop there. I think it's better I don't know.
Yosuke is smiling wrylyā¦
He probably assumed it was Yukiko and he didn't wanna know any more details than that. Again, due to comphet, most people would probably assume that he was just jealous because he wanted to date her himself.
Yosuke: Because she likes himā¦? M-Man, kids sure are mature these daysā¦Well, my first love was in first grade, too! I've always been ahead of my time. But, wellā¦I don't really need that in my life right now. It's just not the timeā¦I have something I need to do before that can happenā¦
But he actually didn't. His true feelings are quite different than his public persona where he's obsessed with getting a girlfriend. Especially in Golden, like with the motorcycle scene. Yosuke said he was ahead of his time. And I think he was. His character arc seemed to be about being closeted and coming to terms with it. But that was a trickier subject during the time period which the game first came out.
Rise: And the bustlineā¦
Yosuke: Huh?
Rise: Mine aren't that big.
Yosuke: Oh yeah, I see what you mean nowā¦ I-I meanā¦What am I saying!? U-Um, I'm sorryā¦!
Similar to Yukiko's Shadow, Yosuke had no real interest in the sexual aspects of Rise's Shadow. The Midnight Channel zoomed in to emphasize her chest and waist area, which was due to the general public's interest in her sex appeal. Yosuke told Yu he could tell it was Rise by the hairstyle. However, in front of the others, he said he knew it was her because of her figure. It's a minor detail, but it suggests that his reaction was completely performative. He didn't even recognize her figure in person that well anyways.
Chie: Let's hurry and rescue her! Yosuke! You better not slack off, hoping she'll "bare it all" if we take our sweet time!
Yosuke: I-I wouldn't pull a stunt like that!
Yukiko: ā¦ā¦
Yosuke: Wh-What's with the silent treatment!? I won't do that, I swear! Believe me, I know! We'll rescue Rise before the fog sets in!
The female members of the team assume that Yosuke would want to take as long as possible to save Rise so he could see her strip.
Shadow Rise: Eee, how embarrassing! Is this too hot for TV!? Well, if a thing is worth doing, it's worth doing all the way! I'm gonna bare it all for you! Heehee! Stay tuned!
Yosuke: I-Is she serious about baring it all!? Is it me, or are these shows getting crazier and crazier!?
Yosuke sounds excited.
Yu: We're in no rush.
Yosuke: Huh? But if we don't recue her, isn't Risette gonna...s-strip...? *gulp* Dude, we can't let her go through with that!
However, if Yu actually suggests that they take their time, Yosuke doesn't even get why. He doesn't want to see her strip and never even jokes about it, like Junpei no doubt would have.
Snooty student: So it's Kazumi now that Saki's dead!? Don't even bother, she has a boyfriend. Didn't you get it!? Saki didn't like you! We heard so from her! She may have acted that way, butā¦
They started to badmouth Saki-senpaiā¦
Yu: Shut up!
Yosuke: Yuā¦
Snooty student: WhaāWho are you!? You shut up!
Yosuke: You're the ones who should shut up!! What do you know about Saki-senpai!? She didn't do things half-assed like you! She looked lazy, but she worked hard! She talked bad, but she was good inside! So she hated me? I knew that! She's not here anymore! I'm left behind! ā¦Just leave me alone.
In Rank 6, Yosuke didn't become angry when he listened to the girls gossiping about Saki. He only lost his temper when they insulted Yu.
Yu: You were just upset.
Yosuke: N-No, I was justā¦
Yosuke is smiling patheticallyā¦
Yosuke: Damnā¦Another pathetic display from Yosuke, huh? Thanks, though. Hearing you say that stuff to themā¦It made me happy.
Saying "You were just upset" in Rank 7 is a flag that unlocks the option to hug Yosuke in Rank 8. And the Rank 8 hug was probably a potential romance flag, just like when Rise was crying, and the game warns you that this is an important moment and there's no going back. The fact that these flags were still left in the game suggests the romance route was taken out relatively late in development.
Yukiko: The people at the inn keep asking me questions every day, like "What kind of guy is he?" and "Is he handsome?" *chuckle* I'm sorry I got you involved.
Yosuke: ā¦ā¦ Oh, uh, I'm going to go take a little walk.
Yukiko: Huh? No, itās not what you think!
When Yukiko is at Rank 6, this is the dungeon dialogue between them. There was definitely a love triangle going on between Yu, Yukiko, and Yosuke. Yosuke was clearly jealous.
Kanji and Teddie were conveniently removed from the equation. But Yosuke was a King's Game option. Kanji wanted Naoto to enter the beauty pageant to prove to himself that he was into girls. And Yosuke signed up all the girls. Was he also trying to prove himself straight?
Yu: What kind of girl do you like?
Yosuke: W-well, for me, um... I guess a girl that's kind and sorta fragile, you know? Someone I'd want to protect...
Yosuke actually had a hard time with this question. He gets one on those blank scribbly symbols over his head. He was actually describing a Yamato Nadeshiko, which is the idealized woman in Japanese culture. A very safe and generic answer for someone who is "totes into girls" but has no specific type. Kanji's answer to this question was more detailed because he had a specific girl he liked in mind.
Male class rep: Okayā¦your turn. Who would you want to date?
Yu: Yosuke.
Yosuke: Okay, we get it! You're good at role-playing! Now quit it! You're creeping me outā¦
Kanji: There are many forms of loveā¦Didn't you tell me something like that?
Yosuke: No! Not at all! Well, I admit, I'm pretty dependableā¦and decent lookin', right?
If Yu sits on girl side, Kanji is also an option. However, Yosuke is the one who gets hot and bothered by homosexuality. At least in public. Privately, he apparently told Kanji off-screen that he had nothing against other forms of love.
Yosuke: Your turn. What type of girls do you like?
Yu: A kind girl.
Yosuke: Ooh, me too! You get this urge to care for and protect them...
If Yu sits on the boy side, Yosuke is the one who will be forced to sit on the girl side. And he will single out Yu with his question, to learn what type of girl he likes. He can respond that he likes a girl like Chie, a girl like Yukiko, or a kind girl. Yosuke is very happy if Yu says he likes someone he has the urge to care for and protect.
Yu: Any of us you like, Yosuke?
Yosuke: Well, you guys are all wonderful... But I think you'd be the most reliable. I-I meanāYou idiot! Don't make me play along!
Yosuke would choose Yu to date because he's "reliable". It begs the question. Did he want a kind girl to care for and protect? Or did he truly want to be the kind fragile girl being cared for and protected by a reliable guy?
Yosuke: ā¦I found this. It's a Print Club sticker I took with Saki-senpaiā¦ When I first got here, she insisted on taking itā¦ Back thenā¦somewhere inside me, I thought I was above this placeā¦ A lot of people saw me as the enemy because Junes was going to ruin the shopping district. Butā¦when I met her, she told me, "Parents are parents. You're youā¦" Even if she didn't really mean itā¦it made me happy. Because of herā¦I started to think maybe this town wasn't all that bad. But thenā¦
Yu: She dumped you?
Yosuke: Noā¦ that didn't matter. As long as she was still aliveā¦
Yosuke was still mourning Saki's loss in Rank 8. But his relationship with her was not particularly close. They were coworkers for less than a year and he knew she didn't even like him. However, she accepted him. That's why he latched onto her. He probably thought he liked her romantically. Maybe he even wanted to like her, since he was so lonely. But I think as he spent time with Yu, he slowly realized that he never really did. But he did have those feelings for Yu.
Yosuke: Yuā¦I get it now. I wanted to forget about Saki-senpai. How she's not here anymore. I wanted to forget thatā¦I was living a boring life in the middle of nowhere. When the murders started, I got excitedā¦I thought there was finally a point to me being in Inabaā¦I thought I could forget Senpai was goneā¦and the fact that I was such a loserā¦I jumped at the murders and never once thought about what I was doingā¦ Iā¦ didn't even take the first stepā¦
I believe Yosuke liked Saki as a person, but he wasn't in love with her or anything. She was a crutch to help him forget his loneliness. And when she died, he latched onto the excitement and mystery of TV world as a distraction. And he felt very guilty over that.
Yosuke: But I think I'm awake nowā¦ I need to get over the fact that Saki-senpai isn't coming backā¦ That when this case endsā¦ I'll have nowhere to runā¦ And I won't have changedā¦ ā¦ā¦ ā¦You made me realize that.
It seems you were able to act as Yosuke's crutchā¦ You feel a bond between you and Yosuke.
The reason Yosuke was crying was probably not because of his deep grief over losing Saki. It was likely because he had found a new emotional crutch. And he was a lot closer to Yu than he was to Saki and even more afraid of losing him. He was afraid of what would happen when the case was over, Yu went back home, and he was all alone again.
(option 1) Yu hugs him
Yosuke: You dumbassā¦That's for girlsā¦
Yukiko's character arc was about moving away from stereotypical femininity and the whole ideal of Yamato Nadeshiko. She became more independent and assertive. But I think Yosuke's character arc was probably meant to mirror hers in many ways. He wanted to be the "girl" in a relationship, but he learned to view that desire as something shameful and he was unable to acknowledge it within himself.
(option 2) Yu pats his head
Yosuke: Haha... Quit treating me like a kid...
Amusingly, the kanji for nadeshiko (ę«å) also literally means "child being petted".
Yu: Be a man. Stand up straight.
Yosuke: Hahaā¦ You're right. I wonder what'd be going through my mind if I was man's man like you.
Yosuke is smiling weaklyā¦
Yosuke was not a man's man like Yu. He had an obnoxious dudebro persona he adopted in a social setting, but it was not his true self.
Yosuke: This town I hated so much? Now, I love it. There's still nothing here, but I have family and friends...and you. The important things are never far off...They're all around you.
Yosuke seems a bit embarrassed...
Yosuke: I always wanted to be "special." I thought my life'd finally have meaning if I was "special" to someone. That's why I was really excited when I got my Persona. But I really didn't need itā¦It's not what you have or what you can doā¦Just being born, living your lifeā¦Before you know it, you're already special to someone.
Yu: You're right.
Yosuke: Yeahā¦Like youā¦You're special to me, you know?
Comphet can cause people to pursue romantic relationships even when they are not sexually attracted to the person. They often don't feel like someone of the same sex is even an option. I don't think Saki was truly "special" to Yosuke. But he wanted to be special to someone else so badly, and he thought that a girl was his only option. So, he latched onto the first girl to show him a tiny bit of acceptance.
Yosuke: There's something I wanted to tell you. Somewhere deep downā¦ I didn't trust you. No, it's more likeā¦I was jealous of you.
I thought you were like me. Coming from the city to the countryside, I thought you'd be bored out of your mind here. But as soon as you got here, you called your Personaā¦Became our leader, gathered peopleā¦You're a hero. I like you for that, and I'm proud of youā¦But I guess I was jealous at the same time.
Yu: I didn't know.
Yosuke: I didn't know it eitherā¦When I called you "special," I thought some more about it. I think out of everyone, I wanted to be acknowledged by you the mostā¦
Yosuke had an unused confession where he would tell Yu that he liked him. And based on the Japanese wording, there's almost no chance it was meant in a platonic way. It's how people express romantic liking. He was jealous of how Yu was special. But I don't think it's because Yosuke wanted to be the hero, the way Junpei did. Yosuke wanted to be special to Yu. But he didn't feel like he was good enough because Yu was more objectively cool and special. He wanted to be an equal partner.
Yosuke: Soā¦ I want you to hit me! Give me a good one. Knock out all this crap inside me. I want to be equal to you. I want us to stand shoulder-to-shoulder. So c'monā¦
Will hitting Yosuke make you and him equalā¦?
In Rank 10, the game asks whether fighting will make them equal. I couldn't help but laugh. No, I didnāt think it would. It made no sense to me whatsoever.
Yosuke: Phewā¦The sky's so high up. Is Saki-senpai watching usā¦? Is she smiling at us? Senpaiā¦I'm going to live. Without lying to myself, without deceiving myselfā¦ Days like today, days like before when I did nothingā¦ They're all important daysā¦ They're all days you didn't live to seeā¦ I'm going to live them here.
As the culmination of his character arc, Yosuke said he would not deceive himself anymore. I was left wondering... When did that happen exactly? I could understand if this dialogue happened after Yosuke confessed his feelings for Yu and finally came out of the closet. Whether Yu reciprocated or not, it would have been an amazing conclusion to his arc and made him a much more interesting character. But sadly, it never happened.
I have no idea why they needed to have a fistfight for Yosuke's Persona to evolve. I think that when the romance confession part of the SL was taken out, the "dude brawl" scene was probably added in its place. They needed some emotionally cathartic moment, but didnāt really know what. I know this wasnāt the intention, but it almost felt like the game was telling me I had to beat the gay out of Yosuke. I didnāt like that.
The question now is: will Atlus change this Social Link in the remake? I think thereās a good chance they will. The P3 remake removed the transphobic scene. In Catherine, they added a route where Vincent embraced his bisexuality. And Yosukeās over-the-top homophobia just wouldnāt fly nowadays without some kind of character development.
things that donāt affect your ability to identify as a femme:
being bisexual
being attracted to fem(me)s
not being attracted to butches and mascs
being trans, nonbinary or genderqueer
not identifying as a woman
being multigender/genderfluid and/or identifying as a man/achillean
not presenting your gender in a certain way (there is no one way to be femme!)
being a domme, top, switch or vers
things that do undermine your femme identity:
butchphobia
not supporting fat, BIPOC and disabled butches
being misoginystic towards fem peers (unhealthily projecting internalised femmephobia)
believing all lesbians* must identify as women
believing all lesbians* must be cis women
believing all lesbians* must be fem
believing all lesbians must be exclusively attracted to the above archetypes (fem, cis, woman-identifying)
declaring butches are universally unattractive (this is abbhorent mean girl behaviour)
believing queer men and achilleans canāt perform butchfemme (this is racist as butchfemme was coined by mixed-gender BIPOC ballroom culture)
phobia towards he/him lesbians*, transmasc lesbians*, lesbian* boyfriends/husbands
phobia towards nonbinary and genderqueer lesbians* or seeing them as āwomen liteā
claiming butches or masc lesbians* canāt be trans men or multigender/genderfluid
by extension, claiming lesbians canāt be bisexual (ie spreading ahistorical disinformation about bi/mspec lesbian identities and how instrumental they are to butchfemme)
forcing the butch label onto trans men who donāt wish to identify that way anymore
believing trans men who are attracted to women are just confused/brainwashed cis lesbians (this is wildly transphobic)
phobia against transfemme peers
phobia against transfem butches/mascs
unsolicitedly lamenting how you feel āoppressedā (youāre not) due to your genital preference or the mere existence of transfem lesbians* (ie thinly veiled transphobia)
phobia against bi butches and femmes
believing that anyone with some capacity for attraction to men is automatically āmen centeredā and canāt perform queer femininity like a true femme (this is femmephobia based in slut shaming)
believing that butchness is invalidated by any capacity of attraction to men (again, bimisoginystic purity cultureāyou donāt get to āownā a butchās sexuality just because youāre a femme)
gatekeeping the term ādykeā from other sapphics that you donāt think are lesbian enough
believing other sapphics are less queer than exclusive lesbians, or having stricter standards (*cough* gatekeeping) for mythical āexclusive lesbian spacesā, who gets to identify as a lesbian, and whom lesbians are attracted to
believing real lesbians are only the people who look like you and people youāre attracted to
having strict standards for how all butches and femmes should present (this is easily racist)
not accepting that many ethnic cultures may have different queer gender dynamics that donāt equate to butchfemme even if they look similar (donāt be racist and xenophobic!)
believing butchfemme is only a western phenomenon that is only āmimickedā in other (especially non English speaking) countries (western queer people arenāt uniquely enlightened, they do not own queer gender dynamics and butchfemme was created by BIPOC in the first placeāgatekeeping from the rest of the world is colonial)
believing only femme4butch is valid, or that all butches and femmes must have at least some attraction for the other group (this is ahistorical as well as plain intrusive)
believing in universal strict butchfemme gender and/or intimacy roles
dismissing pillow princesses, high femmes and stone bottoms as ālazyā or not really sapphic
believing a bi pillow princess, high femme or stone bottom is actually just straight, and only wants to use other sapphics to get off (straight women arenāt necessarily naturally bottoms anyway! this is so misogynistic and bioessentialist)
dismissing stone tops and butches as ābrokenā
believing sapphics on the asexual/aromantic spectrums donāt feel actual queer attraction and that queerplatonic couples actually just want to be friends
Judging and policing sexual, romantic and partnership preferences, period
believing all bi sapphics want to treat butches like theyāre cis men (this sort of bad behaviour is far from exclusive to bisexuals; those of us with healthy relationship habits are actually affectionate and validating towards our cis men partners as well and itās no different when we date non cis men but thatās another conversation)
believing all butches must want to be treated like āprincessesā or ābabygirlsā (rather than emphasizing personal preference)
alternatively, treating butches and mascs like āmen liteā when they donāt welcome that
treating butches badly (in relationships or socially) based on their butchness
believing butchfemme is heteronormative and not true lesbianism*
conversely, romanticising butchfemme to the point of not bothering to engage with critique about how the culture may mirror and enforce heteropatriarchal gender dynamics if weāre not careful to remember it should be about embracing authentic identities and desires rather than fitting into boxes
not caring about or being completely uninvolved in diverse queer culture, intersectional coalition, or sociopolitical activism
Femmes are meant to be protectors for the rest of the communityāespecially towards peers who donāt share our privileges. Hope this helps and have fun living your best femme life! šø š
*I specifically use ālesbian/lesbianismā here though āsapphic/sapphismā applies too, because the gatekeeping discourse is often most heated when the term ālesbianā is involved, for obvious reasonsāseparatism.
Itās kinda crazy how when you think about it narratively, every time Cassandra has been in a straight relationship it was less about her love or yearning for the other person and more just about how she wanted to feel wanted.
AND EVEN THEN SHE USUALLY FUCKING HATES IT!!!
All of Cassandraās het relationships OOZE comphet out of a need to feel like thereās someone who wants her.
And then you look at her connections with other female characters, and itās the complete opposite. She adores them. She CONNECTS with them, and grows close as a result. Itās been said to death, but she HALLUCINATES Stephanie for Godās sake. Thereās always so much more to her queer pairings, and I can never hear someone say that Cassandra would fall for a man and keep a straight face.
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leo's attraction for women reads so incredibly comphet, its not even funny.
he compulsively flirts with women bc thats what hes probably been taught he needs to do by his CANONICALLY abusive aunt who adopted him (who we entirely gloss over, btw??)
contrast the way he talks about women with the way he talks about jason. in his povs, he shows little to no actual attraction to women besides the general acknowledgement that they are conventionally attractive.
he only knew calypso for so long, and yet hes suddenly in love with her?? idk about you, but it reads to me that he feels like he needs to save her, like he should in the ideal straight romance.
meanwhile, he describes jason like he formed the heaven and earth. there is no heterosexual way to describe leo knowing what jason is feeling based on the way his lip scar moves. but, he feels like he shouldnt feel this way, so he just dismisses it as "just bros being bros"
i can totally see the bi interpretation of leo, but i personally love this one, idk about you
