the whole "the clones have their own culture so why would they speak mando'a?" argument is very. hm. "people from [insert colonized country] have their own culture so why would they speak [insert colonizer language]?" to me. like. why are the clones speaking galactic standard? they were not created in a bubble. if you hc the clones were taught by mandalorian bounty hunters, then they picked up a least some mando’a curse words. that’s just how that works. if you hc they were taught by bounty hunters from all over the galaxy, they picked up a whole galaxy worth of curse words. they absolutely know how to call someone’s mother a sea slug in kaminoan.
it makes the most sense to me personally for the clones to have been taught whatever the galactic standard language is and also binary, and also whichever other languages are most commonly spoken in the republic. and i think they are smart enough and curious enough to pick up whatever languages are being used around them, on kamino and out in the galaxy. and i personally think using and/or incorporating the language(s) of the people who oppress you for your own language doesn’t mean you have the same culture as the people who oppress you.
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i see fandom fights about whether clone culture is more Jedi or Mando and my solution is that there are over 3 million clones spread out across countless battalions, not all of them doing the same jobs: pilots and navymen and tank operators and deck crew and medics etc. not all of them trained the same way: CCs vs Commandos vs the rank and file. some of them not genetically the same: defective clones. some Mando and some Jedi: some men and some not. and each place of deployment has its own culture with its own Jedi and customs and armor painting and stuff like that. some of them are more Mando and some are more Jedi and some are more their own thing and trying to nail down a single thing it all stems from is kinda impossible. Rex never used Mando'a but Darman never called anyone a shiny. You get me?
so you know how the jedi are supposed to be longer-lived even as compared to other members of their own species because of their relationship with the force?
i think that prolonged exposure to the jedi should have that effect, too. i think in a better galaxy, the clones that the jedi have invited into their lives and their home should just completely blow right past any and all life expectancies projected for them, because the light loves its children, even the ones that can't feel it in the same way, and they've all suffered enough.
Random thought: I feel like the subject of 'clones having different fingerprints' isn't talked about very much. It's been proven in the case of identical twins so the same would apply for clones. (Maybe I'm reading much into this. I apologise.)
Oh clones DEFINITELY have different fingerprints! There’s actually a lot of little tiny stuff that probably your average natborn wouldnt notice about clones, but they DEFINITELY notice about each other.
I’d bet my favorite jacket that between clones there are the slightest differences in their facial symmetry. A nose bends slightly one way, an eyebrow is a little higher than the other, an ear hangs a tiny bit different... extremely subtle differences. These asymmetries are found in basically every face, for example one of my eyes cant open as wide as the other!
These are differences that a natborn takes time to notice (but it can be done, especially if they spend a lot of time around non-helmeted clones. You bet your ass Anakin and Ahsoka could tell Rex apart from the other clones even if his hair was black) but a clone will pick up on IMMEDIATELY. Theyve grown up almost exclusively around other brothers, so of course they’d be incredibly good at telling each other apart. I’m sure they know that natborns can’t tell, but the differences are often pretty stark to them.
ALSO... MOLES. Y’ALL. CLONES DEFINITELY HAVE DIFFERENT MOLES AND SKIN FLAWS. I guarantee you some clones have a shitload of acne scars, or some hyperpigmentation in places, or birthmarks, or itty bitty differences in their ears. Maybe some growths.
The last thing is... belly buttons! Bellybuttons have nothing to do with genetics or how the umbilical cord is cut so far as i can tell, its just kind of random! So whether or not a clone has an innie or an outie is something y’all can definitely decide for yourself 👀
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Look What I Did™️ (thanks for the idea @leias-left-hair-bun ❤️)
This is a place for any and all to submit lyrical revisions, original workings, or just general ideas of what y’all would think our dear boys would sing about!!!
I’ll compile what’s already been written in a Masterlist when I have at minimum 3 submissions.
One of the reasons I find clones so interesting to write is because they’re a mass of contradictions. They occupy a very liminal space in the Star Wars Universe; they’re nearly a lot of things, but also aren’t quite any of them. Which part you decide to emphasise depends on the story you want to tell.
Their age is the most obvious; they’re twice and half their age, at the same time. Neither child, nor adult, but also somehow both. Running a close second is that they’re clones - millions of them, minor variations on a single man - and yet in spite of their identical faces, every single one of them is distinct.
Another’s their legal status; they’re classified as ordnance, not people. They’re stateless, not citizens, decanted to defend a regime they’re not allowed to be a part of. Created to defend against a great evil, and yet used to further the ends of that same evil.
They’re slaves, but they’re also willing (conditioned or loyal, depending on how you want to write it, both and neither). They’re innocent in some ways, and all too knowing in others; think Hardcase bellowing at the clankers out on Umbara, versus Hardcase trying chocolate and the utter delight that must’ve crossed his face. Masculine archetypes who’ve never even met a girl, and might not care about it if they do.
Hyper-competent but still ignorant; they’re assigned serial numbers and they give themselves names; they were decanted and raised to be efficient killers, nothing but wet droids, but they’re often the most humane (for the lack of a better word) characters: how fast Jesse holds his hands up in front of an armed civilian, and calls her ma’am. Waxer and Boil adopting Numa, and taking care of her and keeping her safe in a way that they probably never knew themselves.
Ponds and his men feeding the Twi’leks with their own rations; people who have never had much, and giving away what little they have. He and his men don’t really have homes of their own, but they’re defending everyone else’s.
Okay but @clonehub pointed something out on this post that was really interesting, and it got me thinking. Does Dogma actually have slicked-back hair, instead of the buzzed hair like we’ve thought for so long? I went through and took a bunch of screenshots, and it turns out, there is actually ample evidence to support this hypothesis.
Lots of screenshots and explanations under the cut.
So. Dogma.
His hair lies so flat to his skull that I––and many other people––assumed it was buzzed short. But let’s take a closer look. Let’s start by looking at someone who actually has buzzed hair, in its natural color: Commander Bly.
In this picture we can see that Bly’s hair has a slight bumpy texture, indicative of close-cropped curls. We can also see that it fades out around the ear there, where it’s been buzzed shorter still. Bly’s hair also has the faded cut around the back too:
Also, notice the consistent smooth rendering of his hair. Or rather, notice the lack of streaks that might indicate strands of hair.
Now let’s take a closer look at Dogma:
There is a very obvious streak pattern in Dogma’s hair in this image, going from front to back. Here are some more examples:
If we look at some pictures of the back of Dogma’s head, we can see the streak pattern continues.
The streak pattern has been used consistently in the animation to show longer hair, as is also evidenced by Fives’ hair in the corner of the above image. Here are some more examples of that:
Now these are much more obvious. And you can argue the fact that Dogma’s hair streaks are possibly just the result of the season 4 updated animation style. And clone trooper Crys, who also has longish hair––
––doesn’t look at all like what we see on Dogma. But, the streaks are still there. And Crys’ hair looks more tousled than brushed back, and I have no doubt that if he wanted to he could make his hair just as flat as Dogma’s. They even have a similar shadow at the front from slightly raised hair, that Bly with his buzzcut doesn’t have. Or even Commander Colt, for that matter:
It is entirely possible that Dogma’s hair is as short as we all thought it was, and this is just a result of updated animation. But then the question remains, if his hair is buzzed, why go through the trouble at all of giving Dogma the hair streaks, when they were never on Bly or Colt? Based on the evidence I’ve seen, I now believe Dogma actually does have longer hair, that he’s slicked back severely. And @thebisexualmandalorian made a good observation, in that from a character-building standpoint, it makes sense, because slicked-back hair is often seen as a sign of the need to exercise control.
Here are some real-life examples of what Dogma’s hair might look like:
So there you have it. Clone trooper Dogma has longer hair than we thought he did.
