#chris-chan

Seriously, this person gives autistic people(as well as transgender, brony, sonic fans, pokemon fans, furries, etc) a bad name. Learning about her legit makes me worried about my online presence and made me aware of how mean people can be online.

Also, not defending what she did. It's like Hamas vs Israel or US vs Iran, everyone is bad! No heroes! only villains.

Guy who just makes mindless buff guys with exaggerated surface level appeal and can't even draw feet, one of the worst consequences of 90s era comics.

I've been thinking about that maybe we've been too mean towards such artists?

In 2000s/2010s, mediocrity and anything less than that, especially when it tried to be sincere, was relentlessly mocked, creating the cringe culture we lived through, while other figures were heralded and role models.

But now, one by one, a lot of the most beloved artists of that era are exposed to be not so good people, or just another brand of mediocre, the consequences of that era turned out to be very bad (2010 culture of commentary youtube, cyber bullying and lolcows) and people are starting to sincerely enjoy the works of the artists who were mocked once, or find something to appreciate about them.

So the question is, do you think audiences were too mean? We engaged in the culture of ridicule too much? And have we passed that era of ridicule and mockery?

I mean you're kind of touching on a different idea too, which is: in this culture where everybody is valid, where everybody deserves love and understanding and acceptance, how do we give and take criticism?

And the obvious answer there is that we are constructive. We do our best to suggest improvements. And when we can't be constructive, we don't "punch down." You level the playing field. Lift up people that are unfairly below you, drag down people that are unfairly above you.

Are we punching up at Rob Liefeld, or down? Well, have you ever walked the red carpet at the Hollywood premiere of a big budget summer blockbuster?

Rob Liefeld has. Multiple times. He may not be executive rich, but a quick google estimates he has an eight figure net worth -- about $20 million. He probably owns a big house and lives very comfortably. It's almost guaranteed he doesn't have to work anymore, unless he wants to. Certainly, if I had $20 million dollars, I could absolutely stretch that to last the rest of my life. Easily!

So does he deserve it? Yeah, a little. Not a lot, but a little. There are worse artists than Rob Liefeld, but are they more successful than him? Not usually. So he's earned a "kick me" sign, I think. I don't think that's unfair to say.

But then you need to ask yourself a new question: did Rob Liefeld earn that "kick me" sign himself, or did the internet elevate him to that level of celebrity by making such an example of how bad his work is? This is where we get into "lolcows" and folks like Chris-chan, right?

(Serious answer about Rob Liefeld: No. Deadpool was popular and would have gotten these movies even without Liefeld being roasted over stumpy feet, tiny eyes or too much cross hatching)

Because there are damaged people who aren't going to walk away. People who kind of get trapped in a loop of just making things worse, and worse, and worse -- and the worse it gets, the more famous they get for "being worse." And it can start to look like punching up at a celebrity, but it's a celebrity that you created by being parasocial.

Exactly! I still stand by that if Lily was capable of shutting up and keeping her head down, she would have gotten away with a LOT.

It's that perfect storm where oversharing rubs up on ego and incompetence where the supercell that is a Lolcow is born. Any amount of bad actors can whip up the storm ad nauseum until it either stops being funny to them or the cow in question just walls them out, both of which are sadly unlikely.

1 February - Chris complains about Peter Griffin of Family Guy.[1]

3 February

Chris blocks multiple voice actors for MLP G5 out of protest for the ending of G4.[2]

Chris requests that Geno Samuel refrain from selling a WANT WOMAN! shirt.[3]

4 February - Chris livestreams Very First Media Share Suggestion Live Stream.

9 February - Chris livestreams yet another 'Media Share Suggestion Live Stream'.

11 February - Chris uploads Christ Chan Return Live Stream Highlights.

13 February - Chris uploads CWC Art Contest Part 1.

15 February - Chris uploads a second stream highlights video.

17 February - Chris livestreams Christ Chan Live Stream: Legos, Games and Media.

20 February - Chris uploads a third stream highlights video and CWC ART CONTEST Round 1.

Like I truly don’t care about the argument of “BUT CHRIS-CHAN’S A RAPIST HE DOESN’T DESERVE DECENCY”. My response to this is; do you call Ted Bundy a girl? If the answer is either yes; you’re lying. If the answer is no; you’re being transphobic.

And then the other idiotic argument of “BUT CHRIS-CHAN SAID HE’S A GIRL SO HE COULD ATTRACT LESBIANS”. I don’t care if this statement is true (and frankly I don’t care about seeing the clip), because you should always use someone’s pronouns regardless of—suspected—intentions, because that’s the whole idea of respecting people’s pronouns.

Chris-Chan, aka Christine/Christian/Christopher Weston Chandler, is one of the internet’s most complex (and tragic) figures. Known for creating Sonichu, a comic series that’s half-Sonic, half-Pikachu, Chris’s story is the stuff of internet legend. What started as a quirky web presence transformed into a decades-long tale of public trolling, constant harassment, and, eventually, shocking scandal.

Let’s back up: back in the early 2000s, Chris was posting about Sonichu online, a comic world that was basically her world. Sonichu wasn’t just a story; it was Chris’s way of expressing everything from personal frustrations to dreams. But the internet wasn’t interested in understanding. Trolls on places like 4chan saw Chris and her comic as the perfect target, an endless source of “lulz” that soon turned into obsession.

In the world of trolling, Chris-Chan became what’s known as a “lolcow” — someone the internet pokes fun at for a cheap laugh, over and over. People set up fake personas, pretended to be Chris’s friend (or even lover), all to manipulate her and get reactions. Every single part of her life was pulled into the open, examined, mocked, and weaponized against her. This was no longer just trolling; it was a bizarre social experiment, and Chris was always the subject.

By the 2010s, things had gone beyond “harmless” pranks. Chris was constantly monitored, her every move documented on forums like Kiwi Farms, where trolls would egg her on in ways that only deepened the damage. The trolling escalated to a point where it crossed every line. The darkest part of the story came in 2021, when Chris was involved in an incident that led to serious legal trouble and sent shockwaves across the internet. The reaction was a mix of horror and realization: this wasn’t a story anymore. The world saw what years of harassment and exploitation had led to, and for many, the fun was over.