I donât think Child (4580) has to be indicative of literal children of your own, when applied to the Solar Return chart. It can also indicate a child-like passion reigniting or nostalgia for certain topics, depending on the house itâs in.
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I donât think Child (4580) has to be indicative of literal children of your own, when applied to the Solar Return chart. It can also indicate a child-like passion reigniting or nostalgia for certain topics, depending on the house itâs in.

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olivia rodrigo, travis barker, max verstappen, and lewis hamiltonâs child asteroid
Olivia Rodrigo has her asteroid child in her 2nd house at 4 degrees aquarius. It squares her 5th house lilith in taurus, and is ruled by saturn in her 6th house which conjuncts her groom asteroid and sits directly opposing her sagittarius mars.
We know already that sheâs made a lot of money and a great career through writing music about her childhood, and if she does end up having kids I think itâs safe to say that she will wind up doing the same thing with motherhood.
With itâs square to her 5th house lilith, we saw her breaking into the industry in a big way with a song she wrote about having her boyfriend leave her for another woman. The 5th house represents creativity and sex among other things. Her 5th house in taurus is ruled by libra which indicates âsweet singingâ according to Valens.
With her child asteroid being ruled by saturn in her 6th house of gemini, and directly opposing her mars, I think that some of her next iconic songs will be about motherhood, and/or her children (if she has any). It seems most likely that she will write about struggles with motherhood, the harsh demands of motherhood, or even the intense juxtaposition of wanting kids in theory but not being sure if sheâd be up to the task in practice. There is an energy of feeling trapped by certain obligations here, of harsh pressures, and imprisonment. Like⌠she wants the best of both worlds, but she wonât sacrifice her career or her freedom for something so close to conformity.
One of the reasonâs Iâm not super confident in the idea that she will have children at all, is because her child asteroid is in a sign ruled by a malefic. Kim kardashian, kourtney kardashian, and max verstappen all have children, and their child asteroids are in venus ruled signs.
Max is like Kim where he has his in Libra and his 11th house conjunct his sun. The biggest difference between Max and Kim is that Kim has her child asteroid conjunct lilith as well as her sun and MCâMax just has his conjunct his sun and MC.
Travis Barker has kids and his child asteroid is in virgo and the 3rd houseâthe 3rd house represents childhood, his 3rd house ruler is conjunct his north node and sun in his 5th house, which represents childrenâand while his 3rd house ruler is technically in scorpio which is ruled by a malefic, his mars is at the helm of things in his first house of self, AND it is placed in cancer which is such a gentle and motherly sign.
Lewis Hamilton has his child asteroid in scorpio and his 1st house. Heâs 41 and has no children. While his mars in his 5th house of children conjunct his venus does give a little bit of hope that he might have a child in this last phase of his life, I donât think itâs super likely.
Every womanâs chart Iâve seen where she has kids, she also has her child asteroid in libra, taurus, cancer, leo, sagittarius, or virgo.
Women who have their child asteroid in scorpio, aries, pisces, aquarius, and capricorn tend not to have children⌠or they have them really late in life/with abusive partners.
I havenât seen enough examples of this asteroid in gemini to speak on it yet.
Kim Kardashian child asteroid
Kim has asteroid child directly conjunct her sun in her 11th house, and libra. It also sits in a 6 degree conjunction to her lilith.
She is literally known for letting her kidâs shine in the spotlight with her. She posts them frequently on her social media, and does tik-tokâs with North on Northâs page.
Sheâs also been heavily criticized for letting North wear âoverly sexualâ outfits for a 12-year old.
This is different from the way Kourtney is known for her kids/being a mother, as Kourtney has a reputation for keeping her kids more private (her child asteroid is in her 4th house) and Kimâs child asteroid is above the horizon, in the house of technology, social groups, and social mediaâand sheâs known for her kids/being a mother in a much brighter light.
Having kids also transformed/cemented the way she was seen on social media. It coincided with the elevation of her aesthetic and public persona in a major way.
kourtney kardashian child asteroid
kourtney kardashian has her child asteroid (4580) in taurus and her 4th house. she seems to have a beautiful, peaceful, and mainly private relationship with her children, which she prioritizes above all else.
apollo and her part of fortune are also in the 4th house with child. she gained major fame with motherhood, she was fairly young when she had her first child, and it would appear that motherhood is the most major part of her life.
her 4th house ruler is venus in aquarius/her first house. again, her kids are something sheâs really well known for in the public eye.
she also has fama and groom in her first house⌠these asteroids are much closer to her AC than child. when it comes to her fame, she first (and most intensely) gained it through her relationship with her ex, scott disick, then through the children they had together. itâs a similar thing with her new relationship. she is most known publicly for her relationship with her husband, and her childrenâbecause these are the things she chooses to share publicly.
dejanira and child both residing in my 8th house (8th house ruled by pisces); child in 22 degrees pisces & dejanira 15 degrees aries,âŚ..child squares my sun & dejanira is in semi square w my ACâŚwhatâs going on in there đ¤¨

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ASTROLOGY OBSERVATIONS 11
THESE OBSERVATIONS ARE BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH THESE PLACEMENTS.
PLEASE DO NOT REWORD OR COPY MY OBSERVATIONS. YOU CAN POST IT BUT GIVE ME CREDITS.
ALSO, IâD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY TEST SUBJECTS FOR HELPING ME MAKE THESE OBSERVATIONS <3
đˇ LILITH IN 3RD HOUSE individuals usually get their words sexualised or taken too seriously by other people. they say anything and people find ways to twist their words and make it sexual or they just unintentionally say sexual things.
âď¸ GEMINI AND VIRGO PLACEMENTS love stationery. theyâre usually the bitches that get excited over a 0.5mm black marker. Itâs me Iâm bitches.
my Gemini moon friend literally buys stationery every week and loses them. she was so excited to tell me about her erasable pastel highlighters.
âł CAPRICORN / 10TH HOUSE PLACEMENTS no matter how 'patient' or 'chill' their rising or mars sign is, if you make them do something while they're focused on something else or when they're working, they'll literally get so annoyed with you. well done, you ruined their day đ /s
đś whatever CHILD (4580) is in / touches, it can tell you where you are most child-like or most innocent and sweet. It doesnât necessarily mean that you are, it can just be how you appear to people.
ex: child aspecting ascendant can mean having a baby face or soft skin
I have child in 1st house and aspecting my MC and I feel like I can't do anything right in life by myself and also people always treat me like I'm younger than them even if we're the same age / they're younger.
đŹ CANDY (3015) can tell you where and how you naturally attract people and where people notice you (in a good way), basically where you're an 'eye candy'.
someone I know has Candy in 6th house and literally all their co-workers know them and have a crush on them LAHDKFJF this can manifest differently too. people usually notice their health and their body.
đ´ WILD (1941) shows where you are âfreedâ from / where youâre most free and where you have to do things yourself with no instructions. Idk how to word it but you know what I mean. basically where youâre most âwildâ. because of how âwildâ you are, you may appear reckless to people in that area.
I have mine in 3rd house and my school life has been really crazy. I barely did any homework and I didnât study and my classmates always thought I was too careless and that I wasnât going to make it anywhere. also I dropped out of school. I feel like I have freedom now because I can learn things at my own pace.
đź TONE (1266) can tell you how you come across as to people by how you speak. I think this is also important if you want to know what first impressions people have of you.
ex: tone in sagittarius can mean you come off as someone humorous and people may not take you seriously
someone I know has tone in 7th house and people always think theyâre flirting and give off player vibes
đ people with LAMB (16089) IN 1ST HOUSE / ASPECTING ASCENDANT have some sort of innocence to them and people just want to protect them. the downside of this placement or aspect is that these individuals often feel âpreyedâ on.
đš BLESS (92891) can tell you *wait for it* where youâre blessed and what youâre blessed with. totally wasnât expecting that.
Megan Fox has it in her 1st house and sheâs obviously blessed with good looks since birth. It also sextiles her saturn.
đ LICK (1951) can tell you what youâre obsessed with or very interested in.
ex: lick in 10th house can mean youâre obsessed with your career, reputation and public image. It can also mean being attracted to workaholics and individuals that seem âput togetherâ.
đĽ people with BEAN (13606) IN 1ST HOUSE / ASPECTING AC OR MC are literally so cute. you just want to head pat them. they also get babied by their peers.
đ° BONUS (10028) can tell you what you feel like you always have more of but if itâs negatively aspected, it can mean the opposite. It can also tell you your âextraâ talents and where you feel quite lucky.
ex: bonus in 11th house can mean you feel like you always have friends and you make friends easily.
Hello đ for asteroids, Iâm curious about the child asteroid? Mine is in Aries so my mind is just like âI am a child of Ariesâ which may not be quite technically true but itâs fun to imagine đ thank you đĽşđđđ
child asteroid represents your inner child ! its basically who you are underneath all your layers and when you find comfort in someone, this shines. This is one of a many used asteroids in synastry as if someone easily connects with your inner child you may rely on them heavily ! so maybe not exactly child of aries but in a way, you are aries !