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Iâm convinced now that too many people maintain a naĂŻve view of originality. That is, thinking of originality as stark ex nihilo construction, like a flash of inspiration; eureka! You devise something brand new, never before seen. You can only believe in that if youâre not looking closely, youâve not studied, or youâre not expert in the field.
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I Think Youâre Totally Wrong
I Think Youâre Totally Wrong: A Quarrel by David Shields and Caleb Powell
publication date: 2015 pages: 261 ISBN: 978-0-385-35194-2
I Think Youâre Totally Wrong was just two dudes arguing. Literally. The book was an edited transcript of Shields and Powellâs discussions on a three-day weekend they took for the explicit purpose of arguing with each other. As Shields said about midway through the book: âItâs an ancient form: two white guys bullshitting.â You might be wondering, as I was, did we really need to rehash this old song and dance again? Well Iâll tell you: I loved it.
I had not read these two authors before, but they obviously followed literary and political news and trends. They also did not shy from being brutally honest with each other and with themselves. This meant that I Think Youâre Totally Wrong was a voyeuristic Keeping Up With the Kardashians, but for those of us in the âOh, I donât have a TVâ faction.
Hereâs an example of them not holding anything back from each other, in a typically literary way:
CALEB: Thereâs something appealing in an artist who turns toward contradictions, a troubled and tormented artist who seeks pain. Thereâs mystique, validity, even credibility. You may disagree, but one thing Iâve observed in your writing is that you seem like you almost wish you had suffered more than you actually have. DAVID: Then youâre a really bad reader and know nothing about my life.
ZING.
And then sometimes Caleb would just get drunk and talk nonsense:
CALEB: Iâve gotta good sense of direction because of my Oriental background. DAVID: Youâre âOrientalâ? CALEB: I was born in Taiwan. I can orient. The shadows speak to the sun, the sun speaks to the shadows, and the sun and the shadows speak to you.
This all added up to a book that talked about a lot of important things: suffering, Art v. Life, morality â but was really about the main foundation of life: two people talking to each other. These were two people willing to be vulnerable and say their truth, even if it was contradictory or unpopular. For example:
CALEB: There are inferior and superior cultures. DAVID: Wow. Youâre saying that as a fact? CALEB: It is a fact. DAVID: I basically agree, but I donât think youâre supposed to say that. . . . CALEB: Asians and Africans are equal, but their cultures canât be. No cultures are. Cultures evolve; politics changes. In India and China, men outnumber women by large margins in some regions because of gender-selective abortion . . . In some cultures, youâre not a woman until your aunt slices your clit off.
As I mentioned above, some might find this book annoying because of itâs myopic premise, but I thought it was funny, endearing, tense, and real.
5/6: seek this book out
other reviews:
Boston Globe Huffington Post The Stranger
During our 2015 Summer in Paris Writing Retreat, the Cambridge Writersâ Workshop organized a reading at the famous Shakespeare and Company bookstore. The reading featured acclaimed essayist, writer, and Cambridge Writersâ Workshop instructor David Shields, who read from his new book I Think Youâre Totally Wrong with Charles RecoursĂ©, who is an editor for Au Diable Vauvert and Shieldsâs French translator. Following an introduction by CWW Creative Director Rita Banerjee, the two read select passages from I Think Youâre Totally Wrong with Recourseâ reenacting the dialogue of Caleb Powell, Shieldsâs co-author. The reading was followed by a Q&A and a book signing outside the store.
A full podcast of the reading is now available on the Shakespeare & Co. SoundCloud. And additional photos from the event can also be found on the Shakespeare and Co. Website.
Podcast Live for Shakespeare & Co. Reading feat. David Shields and Charles RecoursĂ© During our 2015 Summer in Paris Writing Retreat, the Cambridge Writers' Workshop organized a reading at the famousâŠ
âIf we canât criticize, we stay in the muck, and the literary world shrinks proportionately to the culture. Who trusts or even reads positive reviews? Would you rather have a positive review read by a hundred people, or a negative review read by a thousand?â
- Caleb Powell to David Shields in I Think Youâre Totally Wrong: A Quarrel

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Weâre omnivores. Animals suffer. Thatâs what they do. They eat each other, battle the elements, starve. Theyâre not cognizant the way we are. In a rich, liberal, educated society itâs easy to be a âmoral vegetarian,â but in Africa and Southeast Asia they donât eat animals because they canât afford to. Kids suffer mineral and iron and vitamin deficiency. And the brain canât develop without nutrients that meats provide. Pregnant mothers need meat, eggs, milk to help nourish their fetus, so poor people die or grow up malnourished as relatively prosperous vegetarians eat tofu and watercress and hijiki and organic tempeh and then tsk-tsk about meat being âmurder.â
Caleb Powell, I Think Youâre Totally Wrong (A Quarrel), with David Shields
Also think about the people who live in places where it is difficult to grow plants for food.
David Shields and Caleb Powell have just released a book, I Think Youâre Totally Wrong, which is just a transcript of them arguing in a cabin for three days. James Franco then did a movie about them. Hereâs a video of them on their book tour. Arguing. Itâs great.
James Franco's Adaptation of David Shield's I Think You're Totally Wrong: A Quarrel Premieres May 3, 2015 at Vancouver's DOXA Festival
James Francoâs Adaptation of David Shieldâs I Think Youâre Totally Wrong: A Quarrel Premieres May 3, 2015 at Vancouverâs DOXAÂ Festival
I Think Youâre Totally Wrong: A Quarrel featuring David Shields, Caleb Powell, and James Franco Director:Â James Franco | USA | 2015Â | 87Â minutes | DOXA â May 3, 2015 Genre: Documentary, Literary, Satire & Subversion | World Premiere
Author David Shields (guest curator from DOXA 2012 and Cambridge Writersâ Workshopâs Summer in Paris Writing Retreat Instructor) returns with a cinematic adaptationâŠ
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