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Bartimaeus CANON Worldbuilding (Book1)

Note: This was mainly done for my own reference YMMV, but feel free to use it. Focuses on worldbuilding, magic, Nathaniel, and Bartimaeus. Most notes have a page number attached, your book will likely vary by 1-3 pages but it'll give you an approximate location. In case your book varies wildly I have attached the chapters' pagenumber of my book at the end of this. I apologize for my spelling and inconsistent capitalisation.

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Worldbuilding - Spirits (general information) - Spirits Magic - named spells - Magicians (general information) - Countries / History - Apprenticeship - Magicians Magic Characters - Nathaniel / John Mandrake - Bartimaeus - Faquarl - Jabor - Kitty - Martha Underwood - Arthur Underwood - Ms Jessica Whitwell Chapters' page reference

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What do you think made Nathaniel from Bartimaeus Trilogy such a beloved chara despite being so villanous in certain parts of the story? (besides his ending) Just noticed you had answered some question about these books! They were a fave of mine and introduced me pretty hard to bittersweet endings...

I'm not in touch with the Bartimaeus fandom so I can't really say how people think one way or another. They'd have to tell me. What I do know is that there are a lot who did not like the series in general for a number of reasons: 1) it was mostly about politics in the sense that it's about this fantasy society 2) the characters all have very large character flaws.

They aren't characters who are nice the full time or even most of the time. This turns a lot of people who want purely uncomplicated main characters away from the trilogy.

So, my argument with be, if you have mixed feelings about Nathaniel, you probably don't like the story period and it's not necessarily him that sends you out the door.

Why I like him so much is precisely that: he's complicated. We watch this fascinating character progression for him where he goes from just a kid who has potential, a small glimmer of potential, and then becomes sucked up in the elite society and a crucial part of it only to realize at the very very very end that he doesn't want to be this. And it takes him a long time to get to that realization. Even when he thinks he gets there, he realizes later he's not there yet and even in him musing about the state of society he was thinking of replacing it with himself in charge of... the same type of society.

I think those who like the trilogy really like that about Nathaniel, in that in him we get a realistic take on a character who is a part of this system and that it is this difficult to him to realize the error of his ways and get out. That it takes all this to do it. Even when he's completely miserable in power.

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Who would win, Bartimaeus or an average strength giftless Twilight vampire?

Ooh, interesting question with a two-fold answer.

The Other Place, Spirits, and the World of Twilight as We Know It

The Bartimaeus Trilogy is one of those worlds that actually does make sense in the Twilight context. Not so much in that we'd see the history of the Bartimaeus universe in the Twilight world (I'm not sure the Volturi would allow humanity to get away with summoning alien beings to do their bidding that can cause mass calamity and a simple mispronunciation) but that I see no reason the Other Place and the Twilight universe can't coexist.

Perhaps the Twilight earth simply never tapped into The Other Place in the way the other Earth does, or they did, but knowledge of how to summon spirits died out with some culture ages ago due to some catastrophe/the Volturi going "OH HELL NO".

But the reason I bring this up is there's a fundamental question here: how do vampires in that mashup relate to The Other Place?

Given everything we see of Twilgiht, the answer appears to be that it doesn't. While in the Bartimaeus universe there are people who face side effects due to proximity of The Other Place (physical deformities, uptick in resistance to magic, whatever the hell is going on with the werewolves) without any indication of spirits for at least a thousand years if we're assuming the Volturi put an axe to that and rewrote history, vampires being something spirit related is a little questionable.

Possible, if it's some side effect that spun out of control and is infectious with a single victim, but unlikely.

That Was... Weird, Muffin

I brought it up for a reason and that reason is golems.

Of the enemies we see Bartimaeus face we have a few groups. Humans with resistance who are otherwise immune to what he'd throw at them, other spirits, and golems who are a little complicated.

Humans with resistance are only good in that they can resist him. They still need to use things like molars, artifacts, and other spirits in order to actually attack a spirit. It just means that Bartimaeus can't magically swat Kitty like a fly.

Golems are interesting in that they're also created via ties to The Other Place but that they are specifically a kind of anti-spirit weapon being creatures of earth and water where spirits like Bartimaeus are fire and air. Because of this, a single touch is enough to drain a spirit of all life and you see Bartimaeus terrified of even getting near these things.

So, what are vampires?

If vampires were due to some Other Place nonsense, are they too creatures of earth and darkness? Unclear. Depends on what we decide the origin of vampires really is.

For the sake of this ask I'm going to say no.

Spirit vs. Vampire

Before we get to Bartimaeus, let's look at your average spirit versus your average vampire.

The spirit, given some level of strength, probably wins. They can shift form into a vampire themselves, including the physical form of the vampire teeth, and they are such that if powerful enough our physical reality starts bending to the Other Place.

The laws of physics no longer apply, matter changes form, so instead of a vampire you suddenly have a puddle of goo.

Of course, you have to be very powerful for that, but even something like a djinn or higher can probably shift into a vampire, use the vampire teeth, then light their opponent on fire.

Not to mention that vampire gifts are almost guaranteed not to work on spirits as they're not physical bodies with physical human brains.

Bartimaeus vs. Vampire

Bartimaeus wins and not just because of the above.

Bartimaeus wins because he has a knack for picking and choosing his battles. Specifically, we see time and again in canon, Bartimaeus purposefully avoids fighting when he can help it and almost always knows when he's in over his head.

He's not the strongest (see Jabor), not the smartest (see Faquarl), but he also knows this, and he has absolutely no shame in running away and getting out while the going is good. He does the bare minimum/out of the box method to complete his task and always looks out for his own hide.

This means unless he has absolutely no choice but to fight a vampire (he doesn't and I can't see that he ever would), he's going to go "NOPE" and bravely run away.

It's why he's still here after five-thousand years.

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I saw you recommended the Bartimaeus Trilogy. Any heretical thoughts? Why is there no good fanfiction out there!

My heretical thoughts is I have always, and still do, find it to be a better series than Harry Potter. This would have gotten me flogged in elementary school and likely still will today.

Beyond that, I don't think I have heretical thoughts. Could be I'm wrong, but I like to think I see the Bartimaeus world the way Stroud generally intended. And I love every inch of it as well as that series in general, still one of my favorite book series today.

(Also, as a note, as posted recently, it's hard for me to answer this sort of question beyond a generic "yes". If you want to know something specific, you'll, well, have to be specific)

As for why there's no good fanfiction: it's old and doesn't have a currently thriving fandom. I love this series dearly, but it was published ages ago and the vast majority of people prefer, say, Harry Potter.

There are very good Bartimaeus fics though, but you're going to have dig for them and most are going to be on fanfiction and probably livejournal (though I haven't looked at the latter).

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So—we might both have the same heretical opinions on Nathanial and Bartimaeus. A surprising number of fans (idk about the fandom online), but people who love the books that I’ve interacted with IRL, seem to think both characters are reliable narrators. Thoughts? (As you can guess I disagree and their unreliability is one of the many things I love about the series).

I don't know if I'd call this heresy so much as squabbling over definitions.

I happen to agree with you, I think the characters are very unreliable narrators. That's the point and why we switch points of view so often. There are things that cannot be learned/gleaned from solely one point of view.

But first, back to definitions. To the vast majority of people, all narrators are reliable unless they are explicitly told otherwise. Unless it's Lolita and Humbert is trying to tell you he's a great guy, then that narrator is reliable.

I disagree.

I think, if you're telling from third person limited, there's that key word in there. Limited. That character not only has access to limited information, could very well be wrong, but they also have a distinct point of view. They may not be Humbert, telling you this story with an agenda of trying to get the audience to sympathize with him, but they still have their way of seeing the world which may not always be correct.

The Bartimaeus trilogy lives for this.

It takes Nathanial three books and many years to even glimpse what Kitty and Bartimaeus see in his country. There are many scenes where Nathanial is genuinely devastated by some seemingly lack-luster action the government has taken, where Bartimaeus is merely shocked and appalled in the Casablanca sense of the term. Kitty is filled with revolutionary zeal and it takes Bartimaeus' overwhelming cynicism to point out that it's not going to work to her. As for Bartimaeus himself, he's filled with double think, playing the fool, and so many coping strategies for the misery of his existence.

I, too, love this aspect of the series.

But, again, to most people unless it's Humbert and the author is well known for going out and saying "Guys, this narrator is not reliable", people will call them reliable narrators.

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Bartimaeus CANON Worldbuilding (Book1)

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They aren't characters who are nice the full time or even most of the time. This turns a lot of people who want purely uncomplicated main characters away from the trilogy.

So, my argument with be, if you have mixed feelings about Nathaniel, you probably don't like the story period and it's not necessarily him that sends you out the door.

#the bartimaeus trilogy #bartimaeus meta #nathaniel #john mandrake #meta #opinion

Who would win, Bartimaeus or an average strength giftless Twilight vampire?

Ooh, interesting question with a two-fold answer.

The Other Place, Spirits, and the World of Twilight as We Know It

But the reason I bring this up is there's a fundamental question here: how do vampires in that mashup relate to The Other Place?

Possible, if it's some side effect that spun out of control and is infectious with a single victim, but unlikely.

That Was... Weird, Muffin

I brought it up for a reason and that reason is golems.

Of the enemies we see Bartimaeus face we have a few groups. Humans with resistance who are otherwise immune to what he'd throw at them, other spirits, and golems who are a little complicated.

So, what are vampires?

If vampires were due to some Other Place nonsense, are they too creatures of earth and darkness? Unclear. Depends on what we decide the origin of vampires really is.

For the sake of this ask I'm going to say no.

Spirit vs. Vampire

Before we get to Bartimaeus, let's look at your average spirit versus your average vampire.

The laws of physics no longer apply, matter changes form, so instead of a vampire you suddenly have a puddle of goo.

Of course, you have to be very powerful for that, but even something like a djinn or higher can probably shift into a vampire, use the vampire teeth, then light their opponent on fire.

Not to mention that vampire gifts are almost guaranteed not to work on spirits as they're not physical bodies with physical human brains.

Bartimaeus vs. Vampire

Bartimaeus wins and not just because of the above.

This means unless he has absolutely no choice but to fight a vampire (he doesn't and I can't see that he ever would), he's going to go "NOPE" and bravely run away.

It's why he's still here after five-thousand years.

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I saw you recommended the Bartimaeus Trilogy. Any heretical thoughts? Why is there no good fanfiction out there!

My heretical thoughts is I have always, and still do, find it to be a better series than Harry Potter. This would have gotten me flogged in elementary school and likely still will today.

(Also, as a note, as posted recently, it's hard for me to answer this sort of question beyond a generic "yes". If you want to know something specific, you'll, well, have to be specific)

There are very good Bartimaeus fics though, but you're going to have dig for them and most are going to be on fanfiction and probably livejournal (though I haven't looked at the latter).

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I don't know if I'd call this heresy so much as squabbling over definitions.

I disagree.

The Bartimaeus trilogy lives for this.

I, too, love this aspect of the series.

But, again, to most people unless it's Humbert and the author is well known for going out and saying "Guys, this narrator is not reliable", people will call them reliable narrators.

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