#av4

Time Travel involved?

A- Of course!

How long after IW does it start?

A-  it starts 22 days later. They try and fail to reverse it all. THEN it jumps to FIVE YEARS LATER

Where is Thanos?

He’s off on a farm somewhere (other planet? Not sure.) He’s in a bad state. Using the gauntlet has drained him.

What big characters die?

A- Black Widow (dies to save Hawkeye), Iron Man (and they have his funeral), and Thanos. As far as I can make out,Thor kills him during the first 22 days. He cuts his head off. The others ask him why and he says, “I went for the head.”

Is it true that Cap goes back and dances with Peggy?

A- yes and he stays in the past.

Does Jane appear?

A- yes. Thor goes back to Asgard with Rocket. Rocket removes the ether from Jane via a needle. Thor decides he can’t bear to meet her, so goes to visit Frigga instead.

Do they actually manage to reverse the snap?

A- Yes. Everyone that was killed by the snap comes back. They do it by going back in time and ‘borrowing’ the stones and Tony has his own gauntlet and snaps it and ta-dah!

HAWKEYE?

A- yes. In fact the movie opens with him and his daughter on his farm(?) just before the snap, when all his family die. In other words the snap didn’t get him.

Valkyrie??

A- Yes. She’s alive

Pepper Potts?

A- Yes. She has a 5 yr old daughter with Tony, who is just as brainy as he is.

The Asgardians?

A- Half are alive and as far as I could make out from the synopsis video, they are in something like a fishing village????????? No idea!!!

Hulk?

A- This is a really weird bit- the hulk and Banner have combined and now there is Professor Hulk. Yeah.

Bucky?

A- Yes he’s there, he’s fine. He has the opportunity to go back and stay in the past but decided not to.

LOKI???

A-  You see him in the past. It’s never confirmed if he’s dead, if he gets back to change things, nothing. He is in it VERY briefly and gets 2 lines.

Tony returns to Avengers Tower in 2012. They need to get the Tesseract. Loki is caught and bound- handcuffs, muzzle etc. The tesseract is in a suitcase which gets dropped and opens- the tesseract rolls to Loki’s feet. He uses it to escape right there. One review says he escapes ‘in a puff of smoke’ but I don’t know if that’s how they did it or if the reviewer was using those words in sarcasm ;)  He is not seen again. I can only assume they left it open so that the series can go ahead.

Is the opening scene from IW revisited?

A- No. And I think that sucks, because that scene never made sense to me. It had tons of holes, was very disjointed.

The sun will shine on us again?

A- no, this doesn’t mean Loki and Thor reunite in the future. BUT when the Avengers reverse the snap, the trees all go green again, and the SUN SHINES BRIGHTLY. So you have to think well, how did Loki know to say that? It’s going to lead to sooo many fanfics and fan theories. (I had a theory quite a while back that this phrase might not mean Thor and Loki, and instead meant the Asgardians, and hate to say it but sheesh it seems I at last got something right.)

Overall?

It’s getting a big 10/10 in the reviews and summaries I’ve seen, but also I’ve heard that, although satisfying in that it resolves a lot, it is a pretty depressing movie, albeit with lots of action, and a big fight at the end where everyone like Black Panther, Dr Strange heck EVERYONE from snappy time arrives. (But no Loki, who IMHO could have come through and fought alongside everyone. WOW imagine if he’d helped save Midgardians? Wouldn’t that be a great resolution to his invasion in 2012? Wouldn’t that close something off really nicely? Wahhh)

ALSO I’ve read that it’s confusing (like, you don’t say??)

So- although I like that they didn’t exactly spell out that Loki was dead, neither did they explain the huge holes in that first scene of IW. It also means that when Thanos hurled Loki’s body at Thor (or towards the audience), saying ‘no resurrections this time’ he really was breaking the fourth wall. That, plus that whole disjointed scene, is going to leave me angry for all time.

Leaving it this way lets his fans able to say he got away and the non-fans say nah, he dead. But it also means that the last time we see Loki in an MCU film, he’s seen as a villain.

Lastly, a link to one of the spoiler vid’s I’ve watched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3CGaEImozM