andrewmoocow replied to your text post:
I just want to give her a hug.
demonbirdsforever said:
Thank you!
Spoilers for Wonder Woman #12 beyond this point!
timethehobo replied to your text post:
I’m of the same mind as you on this issue. Thanks for reviewing it as well.
Glad to hear it, and no problem! People needed a heads up on this.
demonbirdsforever replied to your text post:
I heard from Wes (Critical Thinking) that Wonder Woman was going to get the… “Batman Treatment”. I guess this is the start of that.🧐
I hadn't heard that, but it's not surprising given that Tom King wrote Batman for several years. It's clear that to some extent he's differentiating between Diana and Batman/Batfam, but here she's not as different from them as she'd probably like to believe. That could be interesting if she realizes it in an issue or two and it leads to some soul-searching, but I'm not feeling a ton of faith in that.
demonbirdsforever replied to your text post:
Side thought. The Interrogation was poor. I’ve seen tv investigators do it better without laying a finger on the perp. How embarrassing.
It was. In fairness, Damian's a kid, but Diana really should have had better control of the situation and of herself.
orion-nottson replied to your text post:
DC writers try not to write a frankly bizarre amount of unnecessary violence challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
And it's in that weird awkward zone in which Digger gets the shit kicked out of him but is somehow not bloody and bruised. Not that I'm jonesing to see him hurt, but realistic consequences for the violence might better drive home how brutal this was.
lfthinker replied to your text post:
What I don’t understand is why Digger’s so reluctant to betray Waller. I thought a big part of his character was that he wouldn’t think twice about selling out the Suicide Squad. Why wouldn’t he jump at the chance to screw over Waller if he knows he could get away with it?
It is weird, yeah. I guess it's possible he's allowed to be free in exchange for his silence (and maybe assistance), but I can't imagine that even Digger enjoys seeing his friends (or colleagues, if we're being pessimistic about his feelings for other people) depowered, imprisoned, and enslaved. I guess it's also possible he agrees with Waller's goals, but that seems less likely because she also wants to take down low-powered everyday villains like him.
eusouomar replied to your text post:
Wow I really hate all of this. The issue, I mean, not your review. Your review is spot on.
Thank you, I'm glad :) But yeah, I feel the same about the issue.
longitudinalwaveme replied to your text post:
Our heroes, whom we are presumably supposed to like and root for, engaging in acts of at least borderline torture for an entire issue: definitely not why I read comics. This is like when they had Zatanna and Barry be involved with brainwashing people in Identity Crisis and its aftermath. Or how they had Ray Palmer torturing Killer Moth in that terrible Justice League: Cry for Justice miniseries. Ugh. Who wants to read about superheroes behaving like supervillains?
Both Marvel and DC (but especially DC) go through their edgy phases, and it's honestly tiresome. But it's interesting, I did a quick google of some fan reviews of the issue at other sites and none of them expressed dismay over the torture or even had a problem with the way Digger was treated. It obviously wasn't an exhaustive search and maybe there are others who are upset, but maybe it's just us Digger/villain fans who are bothered :\
longitudinalwaveme replied to your text post:
And while I'm glad DC hasn't totally forgotten about Owen, but I dislike the snobby jerk entrepreneur version so much that I almost wish they had.
It's honestly surprising that they didn't, as it was just one story more than five years ago. I would have figured that someone at DC would google Owen and get the more famous version.
ammomancer replied to your text post:
wait wym douchey entrepreneur, i didnt realize owen had even showed up post new 52 before this
He appeared in one previous story, which you can see here. He was very different from his pre-Flashpoint self, basically a new character with the same name.
pixie-mask replied to your text post:
Our…heroes? Not just as a Boomerang fan but this isn’t enjoyable to see. Last I remember they weren’t anti-heroes. But this is my opinion on a quick look. Will …enjoy reading later.
It's especially disappointing from Wonder Woman, and even a bit surprising that it's in her own book (and not, say, some event comic like a Crisis title).
