#almagafton

First of all. I didn’t discover this, someone on twitter pointed it out weeks ago. While most people think the hand at the end of the SB trailer shows a Nightmare animatronic, someone noticed it’s somewhat similar to ScrapBaby:

Also keep in mind that The Cliffs was originally supposed to release AFTER Security Breach, but due the virus and expanding the game, the game was delayed while the book released on schedule.

I didn’t put too much thought into this, after all... why would Baby still be around? Why the glowing purple light signaling “Hey, this is obviously William Afton”?

But then The Cliffs came out. The Baby stand-in, Eleanor, is featured in the epilogue. She’s described as a long-necked, female endoskeleton. (Don’t ask me why she isn’t masquerading in Sara’s body still).

I think the hand at the end of the SB trailer IS some form of Baby. The purple light isn’t so much a red herring as it is showing, in my interpretation, Baby’s desire to make her father proud (see her FNAF 6 true ending line: “I’ll make you proud, Daddy!”) I won’t say it necessarily shows William’s influence over her; I mean, all fathers have some presence in their daughter’s lives.

I said off the bat the voice at the end of the trailer is Elizabeth. I still think it sounds like her, not the nightguard.

I think Elizabeth will reappear as the endo in SB and not only is SHE the one truly trying to revive Glitchtrap (possibly as the AlmagAfton, OR, whatever comes after Trash Rabbit in the FF books-- we don’t know yet). I know it’s canon that William chose Vanny, but hear me out.

Remember Elizabeth and Charlie’s relationship in the novels? I think this will parallel that! Elizabeth and Vanny could both have a sibling rivalry for William’s attention... I think there will be a rivalry here. I think this could be even more amazing if combined with my Vanny/Vanessa twins theory. Maybe William is using Vanny just to coerce Elizabeth. There’s many ways it could go.

But why feature Baby so prominently? I am unaware of Scott having any daughters. I think characters like Charlie/Charlotte, Baby/Elizabeth, Susie, ect are kind of living a fantasy-- HOWEVER, this is just a thought. A presumptuous one. I just think it’s worth noting when examining the creator’s mindset. I could be wrong and I don’t want to make assumptions.

I think the last thing I wanna say about this all is... where would William even go, presuming he’s dead at the end of The Cliff’s epilogue? Would he go to Hell for real? Is his spirit lost on earth and therefore able to be brought back? Has he taken refuge in EndoBaby? (Unlikely, considering the implications...) 

I think EndoBaby will bring back William a... er, fourth time? (This is something after Glitchtrap/AlmagAfton, IMO, something we haven’t seen yet)

Concluding, I don’t have answers for Scrapbaby, or elements of Baby being present EXCEPT the chip that Michael took--which, you’d presume was burned/melted or ScrapBaby already held it in FNAF 6. In the FF epilogues we got The Puppet, who presumably burned too. So it’s not impossible that someone or something saved her from the fire. There’s even the theory that all the scrap/burned parts were retrieved for PizzaPlex’s museum elements to consider. (Although I’m still salty if this is true, considering Michael and Henry basically got yeeted into the fire and forgotten and their journey was meaningless.)

Thoughts?

So, to preface, this only really focuses on William (since this is a Willry blog).

100% it’s William talking in the introduction. I’m skeptic about the voice later on in the trailer. I say it’s either AlmagAfton or that Beefcake animatronic / human role that we saw in the VA auditions.

Transcript: "When I first found you, you were nothing, you were small... pathetic.. but now.... you are more... are you ready?"

People are discussing that William lost his British accent. I think it's his voice is too distorted to come through. Or maybe I'm in denial.

Having said that, my wife pointed out we don’t have a Glamrock Bonnie. Yeah, it’s probably because we have two rabbits running around already... but I have a small suspicion, also based on the second voice / hand at the end of the trailer, that we will be getting AlmagAfton as our “Bonnie” for this game. I feel Fazbear Frights sort of alludes / lines up to this (as well as Princess Quest). We’ve had the FF books basically comparing the games; I think this is going to get reversed.

Image credit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/lsijyz/i_always_come_back_springtrap_returns/

Someone did point out this is a Nightmare Animatronic hand. I think it’s a callback, but... who knows? Someone also pointed out that this could relate to some things William said/did in TFC, like moving his body piece by piece to something new. Not sure if this confirms the Nightmares are real things [personally never was fond of this idea] but it’s noteworthy.

Twitter user shared the fact that ScrapBaby’s hand is also a resemblance: https://twitter.com/CircusLizard/status/1365067673076453376

THAT is intriguing!

I mean, I wanted to say I thought the voice at the very end of the trailer sounded like Baby. I could very easily be mistaken, but now I’m wondering...

Maybe AlmagAfton is made of scraps from the Scrapped? We can safely assume parts were salvaged if they got Springtraps circuit boards in VR. The souls are all gone (except William because of TOYSNHK) so...

Now, for something that is even more speculative than that, I just want to discuss how certain things from VR make me wonder about the timeline. I don’t think there’s a way this could work (specifically because of VR showing FNAF 4, SL gameplay, FNAF 3, ect. AKA anything that takes place after 1983, but... It always bothered me that Vanny’s mask is located during Fall Fest ‘83 and that Glitchtrap’s design looks like a prototype for Spring Bonnie. The mall is 80s themed, too. However, little things like the aforementioned games being used in VR (which, SB is obviously a sequel to.. and I guess you can include some AR emails also... and the technology) really debunk the idea that I just kinda had, that SB is set in the 80s. I don’t believe this theory, but it would be interesting. Another interesting point to note is the Foxy Pirate Ride being shown in the newest SB trailer, too, which was part of the Fall ‘83 “Halloween” DLC. I dunno. I don’t know how to make sense of all of it. My rationale would be Vanny (or Glitchtrap) put the Vanny mask into VR just because / maybe to foreshadow [as it is included from a IRL standpoint]. The mall is just retro. Glitchtrap’s design is just a revival of what was probably an early design William never widely used.

I’ll have more thoughts after watching Fuzion’s second-by-second run through and I have yet to see William’s text in FF: The Cliffs’ epilogue], maybe, but for now... I’m one of the happy [few?] that is really excited to see William with voiced lines and the possibility of AlmagAfton.

That does make me wonder where we would go from defeating AlmagAfton... I feel like William doesn’t have anywhere to go from here before going into full corny slasher stereotype. I really would rather his plot thread was settled here than see that.

He will either be defeated or possess someone new. I will say if this ends up being the end of him, then we better get Into Madness [and it better be about Fredbear’s Family Diner]. Otherwise William’s story just feels incomplete to me.

Thoughts after Fuzion’s video:

- The Vanny mask in the intro is the one seen in the Fall ‘83 DLC.

- The hand at the end is bathed in purple light. It’s William 1000% [and I’m convinced it’s the start of AlmagAfton]

- There is a rocky area that is very reminiscent of William’s “lair” in The Twisted Ones (I described it, after reading the book, as “Springtrap’s Rainforest Cafe”) There’s also a jungle themed area in the trailer.

- The ballpit. Maybe we can get a reference from Into the Pit? =:3

- There’s a main hub leading to each animatronic area. Seems we will probably need tickets or something to progress.

- There’s a wristwatch / camera. We finally get an inventory, so that’s cool! Also, it’s very reminiscent to me of Alien: Isolation. I think we will have to be careful using the wristwatch as the animatronics are seen wandering outside the hubs.

- 2021 release date. My money is on October or December.

Thanks to this Reddit thread:

We have a reference to Fredbear’s: https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/lsju7r/that_color_scheme_seems_oddly_familiar/

I really wanna toss this into my “thoughts about how SB relates to 1983″ but I don’t know what to think of it.

More thoughts:

Why is William after Gregory? 1: he knows something important and must be killed. 2: William wants to possess his body (too Childs Play like, hate this idea) 3: William needs remnant to restore his body (imo, most likely)

There's a lot of old references in the trailer. The Pirate Ride ('83), the Cupcake ('83 on), ect. I think the mall could be a mini museum too, as some people have discussed.

The Cliffs - My favorite story of the bunch, but mostly because I really liked the main character. Not TOO much to write home about, but I will pick apart a few lines from this one. In my first set of similarities, the wife dies in childbirth. Not only is this a huge fear of mine (for my wife, in the future), but I wrote this happening in William’s backstory in RS. I generally loved the protagonist here, except when he didn’t realize the obvious: the Freddy was telling him not to kill himself, but where is son was. That doll got burned (yes, burned!), run over, and tossed off a cliff for nothing. I wouldn’t be surprised if that thing came back to kill them :V

Only thing that annoyed me was a few paragraphs wasted on a female co worker, because for some reason that was relevant. (No really, it wasn’t.) Why does this series insist on writing PAGES about useless love interests that do nothing for the plot, nothing for the MC, AGH. I know it’s a kids book series but Christ it’s annoying and I’ve been skipping this sort of stuff and the long action sequences.

The Breaking Wheel - This was the story I liked the least, but honestly, the one I’ll be writing the most about. I think it parallels William and Henry a little and I was a little irked how similar a specific part was to my Springtrap-springlock chapter in Resurrection Seeker.

So first, the story focuses mostly around two kids and they are rivals in a robotics class. One kid a huge douche (Julius) but competent and the other is struggling to put his ideas on paper (Reed). Then there’s Reed’s friend, Pickle, who is a genius.

I’m just gonna bullet point stuff I thought was relevant:

- Reed describes his relationship towards Pickle as: “He was so used to Pickle out performing everyone around him that praising him for doing something well was like praising him for breathing.” (This really reminded me of William’s admiration for Henry, although there isn’t any jealousy here.)

- Reed is described as having a “monkey face”. This reminded me of William, mostly because of the criticism from the fandom towards The Silver Eyes GN’s design. It could be a jab or coincidence.

- Julius’ robot is an exoskeleton (like the power loader from Aliens). When showing off, he becomes trapped in it:

- Reed leaves Julius to be trapped in the exo all night, including locking him in place so he can’t move. This is initially to get back at Julius for being a dick, but then the guilt starts eating away at Reed. Also, Julius getting locked in: “Julius jerked his arms, yanking to free them from the restrains of his skeletal suit....” Julius says: “Unlock me!” and “Do what I tell you! Unlock me!”

Reed tells him, “I’m going to leave you here in your suit overnight... so you can get an idea of what it feels like to... [be treated the way you treat others]. Maybe your robot can teach you a thing or two.”

Julius says, “Get back here you stupid ape! Do you know what you’ve done? I’m going to kill you! ... I’m going to tear you apart, limb from limb. Get back in here and unlock this! ... You can’t leave me in here like this!”

So, yeah. It reminds me a lot of Springtrap. As for the actual story... I was disappointed. The story starts off good (albiet with that poor kid trope this series LOVES) and reminded me early on of The Tell-Tale Heart. Then it defies stated logic to make a real, edgy ending that I didn’t care for. If the entire thing had been in Reed’s head it would’ve been better (more akin to Blackbird, which did the “in your head” trope poorly. If these stories were switched around, I think they’d work better.) So this story was meh. Such a promising start.

Another thing that annoyed me was a few paragraphs wasted describing Orey (fml I don’t care if I spell it wrong. Who the hell comes up with these names). He barely shows up in the story and is just a background character... story could’ve worked without him.

He Told Me Everything - If you love Goosebumps style stories, this ones for you. I really enjoyed it, but it had almost nothing to do with FNAF. The Chris name is obviously a giant troll (and to make matters worse his father’s name is Dave). The sister and wife don’t have any name parallels, although the wife reminded me a lot of my design for Mrs. Afton. The backstory of Chris’ family reminds me a lot of Afton’s backstory for Resurrection Seeker. Like. A lot. It’s spooky how close it is.

“The houses were small, identical little boxes, which had originally been built for workers at the steel mill...” “His dad... ...had gone on to vocational school to learn how to work on cars.”

Another thing to note about the Dad is his weight is specifically touched on several times. Seemed like a callback to the novels’ mention of an earlier version of William.

All in all, a solid entry into the books and some weird coincidences I can’t overlook.

The story did drag a little, but honestly, not nearly as bad as the others. It was good.

Now, for the epilogue.

I don’t know if I wanna fume or not. I’m DISAPPOINTED. Afton essentially dies in the end of it, only to have a piece of his soul in a female endoskeleton escape into the factory. Also, the fucking... the fucking PUPPET shows up (and is actually why Afton dies). [Note: I didn’t realize that Left-E isn’t shown burning in the FNAF 6 ending, which many people are using to justify this. Read below for how I feel about that.] I just. I don’t know. I mean, William always comes back, but... I don’t know how I feel about this. I have a HUGE suspicion that the female endoskeleton is what becomes Vanny. I definetly still see this sort of leading into Security Breach EXCEPT for the fact: The Puppet is still alive.

Okay, so those were my initial thoughts. Upon looking around / rereading people say the female endo is Eleanor (Baby). My wife pointed out I missed the long necked detail. Woops. I wonder if Eleanor/Baby MIGHT be our Vanny stand in in this universe, though. And yeah, still not happy.

Afton is pretty much dead outside of a small part of his soul existing in the endo that escaped (this is an assumption on my part, I don’t think it’s stated, so essentially he’s dead, dead). There are parts of this I liked (and William only had ONE line: “I am Agony.”) Like, no shit? I couldn’t tell! SMH

However, despite some of the parts I thought were interesting (we get a thorough description of AlmagAfton and when he dies its pretty pathetic and I had all the FEELS), I think overall I’m disappointed because we may be at the end of Afton’s story. I have a suspicion that Vanny will be replacing him and possibly even betraying him in Security Breach, if this is anything to go by. Another odd duck is that Jake, in the remnants of the Stichwraith (that everyone insists is the GF parallel) is still wandering around too. I’m assuming Puppet went down with the ship, quite literally, since he [William] falls apart into a lake. Thanks, Charlie. You continue to ruin my day.

My wife pointed out the lake reminded her of OMC’s lake and I’m like... Why are we backpeddling?! This entire epilogue is a fucking mess. Another thing that irritates me (and apparently quite a few people) is if this IS the way the story is heading, then it makes FFPS pretty much USELESS to the story, nullifies Henry’s sacrifice / wishes... and that sucks! ESPECIALLY the fact that the Puppet SURVIVED the FNAF 6 fire! I get she just wants William to pay for what he’s done to her and her father, but... Henry wanted her to rest. To move on. She didn’t do that. That’s shitty to me.