I fear that a lot of conversations and debates that happen in the trans community can be incredibly exclusive to perisex, binary trans and white folks. It's unintentional, but it's definitely there on both sides and it leaves a lot of people with way more nuance to their identities (AGAB-less, "contradicting" AGAB's, simply don't want to disclose their AGAB's, those with cultural identities and gender or whose gender heavily intersects with their race and ethnicity, or those on the nonbinary/abinary spectrum) out, doesn't leave much space for wiggle room and it's smt I really hope the community supporting transandrophobia/transmisandry language can shapen up a bit better on it.

Have these people never considered that maybe transfem people who were raised feminine/as women feel that their femininity is trans because it's different from their pre-transition selves? I'm sorry but as someone who was raised as a woman, my femininity and womanhood is LEAGUES different from the gender I was raised to emulate, therefore, in that way, I am transfeminine. The masculinity I emulated as a child is different from the masculinity I emulate now, and in that way I am transmasculine. Gender, presentation, sex, all are so nuanced and subjective. It really is up to the singular person.