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Hey, I was wondering: Do you feel YA lit has no substance? Lately, I've been seeing a lot of disparaging comments aimed at adults who still enjoy the occasional YA novel, opinions that go as far as to claim that there is no "good" YA book and it's a little disheartening, I have to admit.
No, I think thatās bullshit. Iāve mentioned this somewhere... And addressed the same issue on romance. Basically, YA is not even a full-fledged genre, which are already arbitrary enough. Itās a marketing denomination designed by publishing houses for its targeted audience. It certainly doesnāt impact aĀ bookās simplicity or complexity, and even less its quality. It's mainly based on the fact that the protagonist themself is, among other things, a young adult, and thatās not something uncommon to find in other, less stigmatised genres.Ā
Genre should just be neutral categorisation, umbrella terms used to group stories by format or similarities or objectives. Theyāre not, of course, because elitism and sexism and ageism, etcābut there areĀ āgoodā andĀ ābadā books in every category, and evenĀ āgoodā andĀ ābadā means nothing in itselfāwhat matters is, did this author manage to pull off what they wanted? Did this given reader find what they wanted (or something more, or different!), were they entertained, did they enjoy it, did they learn something, were they touched, in one way or another, by what the author left behind? I feel like Iām making less and less sense but what I mean isāquality should be a one-on-one thing. A conversation. Something that is yours and that can and will evolve and fluctuate with you and that is steeped in subjectivity; not a game of societal taste.Ā
YA books can be as good or as bad as any other work, and as groundbreaking, and as meaningful (I still think about Adam Silveraās More Happy Than Not and itās been... seven years?), and really, do your thing and read what engages you and if people give you shit for that, ask them why and let them stew in the realisation that they donāt have much to show for their judgement, except a cookie-cutter preconception.
Do you/have you read much YA fiction? Thoughts on it as a genre?
Hmmmā¦ I think I read more children literature than I do YA, really, but itās less a conscious choice and more me gunning for older works, when YA wasnāt as developed as aĀ āgenreā. I donāt have a lot of thoughts about the genre because I think itās more of aā¦ marketing typification? To facilitate branding and targeting a specific audience, while the books themselves could (and do) really appeal to older audiences as well. Itās a way to highlight that the protagonist is usually young and thereās a coming-of-age story in there, but that has been of interest to every generation long before YA was a thing, so I tend to ignore the YA sticker and just shelve them in their actual genre (fantasy, science-fiction, romanceā¦), which is nowadays only theirĀ āsub-genresā in bookstores. Potentially surprising considering my usual content, but I really liked The Hunger Games.Ā
Hi pauline! weird question... but do you think there is a way to avoid writing in a sort of āYA Style,ā if that makes sense. Iām not sure if the YA genre is named as such for its subject matter or the more processable way a book in the genre is written (thus catering to a younger audience) - but i just wanna know if (to you) there are any noticeable things which make a YA book sound a certain way? is it just a general less sophisticated style?
Not weird at all ! I donāt think YA is less sophisticated, just as MG is not less sophisticated than other genres. A simple style or an action-driven plot are not pre-requisite of the genre, on paper : it is only called YA because it is aimed, story-wise, but above all marketing-wise, at a young adult audience. That being said, I agree with you that it has acquired a reputation (like MG, like romance, like crime to a certain extent) for light, inconsequential, speedy reading. These make up the fast-consumed, fast-written, fast-sold market. Does it mean all YA, all MG, all romance is subpar ? Not at all, but as always, youād have to dig a bit through the terrifying amount of published books nowadays to find something special, I guess. Though Iām of the opinion that as long as it brings you pleasure, every book is special and worth reading.
Iām losing my thread here. But yeah. I personally feel like there are truly amazing, modern-classics-in-the-making YA and MG books, the most famous being Harry Potter, Hunger Games, Northern Lights as well as modern classics already (Cisneros, Chomsky, Zusak), and old classics too (Montgomery, Alcott, Hodgson Burnett). I remember being literally slapped in the face by Silveraās More Happy than Not a few years ago. So, in my opinion, there is no YA style or constraints. Just an empty publishing convention to facilitate advertising and selling.
Ways the movies destroyed Ronās original persona, #77588 :
Interesting how the first kiss we witness between Hermione and Ron in the book is prompted by Ron making an argument for social justice (i. e., save the elves instead of asking them to fight).Ā
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hi! just curious of your opinion on ya lit... do u think there is depth to it or any books in the genre in particular?
I do, of course! Iām a sucker for children and YA literature, among other things. I think the pitfall of the genre is that adult writers/readers will sometimes look down on it and consider it simple, lower, because itās aimed at a younger audience: thatās bullshit. Young audiences can take in as much as adults canāthatās why solid YA and childrenās lit is devoured universally rather than remaining in the artificial boundaries of their age-range. More to the point: young audiences are usually more flexible, more willing to learn, to change their ways, making any good children or YA work constructive, educational, inspirational.Ā
Anyway. As any work of literature, YA books can teach us about the world we live in, and because the conventions allow for daring innovations (dystopia, fantasy and fantastic elements, coming-of-age tropes), about ourselves and the issues of our time through inventive angles and metaphors.Ā
your post about the hp films and ron reminded me of my current horror: I'm reading the cursed child play right now, and it. is. TERRIBLE. especially the way they write ron in it, I want to scream every time he's in a scene. have you read it/do you plan to read it?
I do not. Iām a big fan of Ron (Re-reading the books, I really connect and identify with him), and Iāve heard his characterisation in the Cursed Child seems to be solely based on the movies and erase all his careful and subtle and great character development from the booksāyou know, among other awful creative choices. I donāt want to ruin HP for myself, soā¦ the play is off the table.
EDIT: for whatever reason, JKR seems to have grown impatient and tired of Ron, but I really struggle with the way sheās been trash-talking on his character these past few years. Heās a very interesting, well-written, credible character and his development is one of the most interesting in the booksā¦ and coming back on that feels like a betrayal of sorts.
