i keep referencing this video and apparently no one i know in real life has seen it, and thereās really no way to explain it, so every time i bring it up we just have to suffer through the awkwardness of a failed comedic reference together. which i guess is...bonding in its own way, but @ me what the fuck, stop doing this
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[EDIT:Ā The information in this post has been largely superseded by theĀ character pageĀ I have on Mar. If there's any conflicting information or the characterization in this post doesn't match, the character page should be believed over this post.]
Oh wow did this get long. Thanks for sending in all these questions!
1. What name do you give your Boss?
My main is named Guiomarāā[p]ossibly derived from the Germanic name Wigmar meaning āfamous in war.āā I donāt know if that meaning translates over to the nameās use in Portuguese/Spanish, but Iām hoping it does! She usually goes by Mar, though, not in any small part because she was tired of people fucking her name up. Here are some pictures of her from SR4.
(I also have another bossāValeriyaābut sheās not quite as fleshed out as Mar at this point.)
2. What is your favorite headcanon about the Boss?
I hope by āfavorite headcanonā you meant ātop five.ā The lesson here is to never ask me about headcanons unless you want a stream of talking directed at you.
Mar loves cars and motorcycles. Loves them. Her father was a mechanic for the Saints on the side and a lot of her earliest memories as a kid have to do with sitting on her dadās workshop bench while he worked on the Saintsā cars. Working on her cars and bikes is one of the main ways she relaxes and driving has always been her main source of entertainment, and she takes an incredible amount of pride in her collection, which is arguably better protected than any of the living spaces in her cribs.
If she isnāt driving sheās the pissiest, most sarcastic backseat driver youāll ever come across, but god help you if you say so much as one āholy shitā when sheās driving. Everyone in the gang is continually surprised that she has a 100% legal license that she doesnāt bribe anyone to keep. (Though, granted, sheās actually a very good driverāitās mostly that sheās a very good driver who enjoys going fast and gets a real kick out of the Near Miss diversion, which makes her generally terrifying to ride along with.)
If sheās upset or trying to work something out, sheāll go out on a long bike ride by herself around the city. No radio, no homie, just her and her helmet and her Kaneda. They all end at the same scenic vista areas in both Stilwater and Steelport, regardless of where she starts from. Sheās spent a lot of hours looking out over both cities and just thinking. Provided she gets there, that is; she tends to be much more reckless on them than when sheās out driving around normally, so most of her driving-related injuries come from them.
Mar owns exactly two suitsāthe one she bought years ago for Aishaās funeral, and the purple one she has in SR4. She wears the purple one on a semi-regular basis for when Kinzie forces her to dress up for an event she has to make an appearance at; the one she bought for Aishaās funeral sheās only worn at Aishaās funeral and the re-do of Gatās funeral that was held after STAG and the Syndicate were taken care of. (Iām well aware that this is probably directly in opposition to what the Boss is canonically shown wearing, but I donāt care.)
Sheās tall. Really fucking tall. Like, 6ā2ā or 6ā3ā, depending on who youāre asking. She also eats like a pro swimmer to go with her swimmerās buildālong, lean, muscular in a lithe way. Sheāll mess you up, donāt get me wrong, but sheās not what most people would consider a bodybuilder. (Also, despite the fact that sheās built like a swimmer, she actually hates being in the water and avoids any sort of water-based anything whenever she has a choice in the matter. Sheās in the ācompletely loses all muscle coordination when put in a body of water where she canāt touch the groundā boat, which makes for some interesting home videos of the two times the crewās been able to convince her to get into a pool.)
Queer as fucking get out. That might be my favorite headcanon.
Iām going to stop, but I want you to know I could go on and on. Iāll save it for the big post I do on her, I suppose.
6. We all have a favorite method of killingāwhat weapon canāt you live without?
An RPG with infinite ammo is a girlās best friend.
In terms of melee, Iāve got a lot of attachment to the baseball bat with barbed wire wrapped around it, though the hand-to-hand in SR3/4 really makes just going and wailing on some jackass that whistles at you when youāre walking down the street very rewarding. Among the conventional guns I donāt have a favorite, though I tend to default to dual wielded pistols if I donāt know what sort of combat situation Iām going into. With the special gunsā¦man, the Abduction Gun makes me laugh every time, and the Singularity Gun is really handy when you get up into higher notoriety situations just because of how much it can take out.
13. Whatās your jam? Favorite song featured in the games?
If I had to pick just one song, Iād say that Face Down from SR2 (tw: abuse) and Renegades from SR3 are tied for my favorite. Thatās a hard choice, thoughāthereās a lot of good music spread across the series.
14. Describe in detail the Bossās relationship with your favorite NPC.
I got this question two other times, so Iām doing it for a few different NPCs! Check the other answers for moreā¦uh, answers. Iām also excluding Homies from this, since thereās a question specifically for them. That being said,Ā Iām going to do Carlos for this first oneāhe should probably count as a Homie, but you can never actually call and roll with him, I donāt think, so.
Mar has a very interesting, unique relationship to Carlos, in that heās the only one of any of her lieutenants in any of the gamesāoutside of perhaps Gatāthat she really treats like a sibling. All the other lieutenants are her family, definitely, but Carlosā¦she thinks of Carlos (at least subconsciously) as her little brother. She grew up an only child but thereās something about him that brings out a protective and mentoring side in her that the other lieutenants donāt.
She tells Carlos that sheās āgonna make a banger out of [him] if it kills [her]ā on a subway train in one of the Brotherhood missions. Ignoring the really skewed everything in that statement, itās fundamentally different from anything she says at any other point to anyoneāshe doesnāt have to āmakeā anyone else. She doesnāt feel any sort of responsibility in shaping their growth or personal development, for whatever reason. With Carlos? She does. She wants to be there for him and help him really come into his own as a lieutenant and as a Saint member, and she can see the potential he has to grow into a thoroughly impressive example of both. In a lot of ways, her relationship to Carlos is similar to Gatās relationship to herārole model, mentor, and leader. Carlos isā¦very young, very naĆÆve, and very determined to āmake itā in and with the Saints, and that sort of combination resonates deeply with her as the Saintsā new leader, because not so long ago she was in his position.
She grieves for Carlos for a long, long time, and, like Gatās death, I donāt think itās a heaviness that ever fully leaves her. It colors her interactions with both her core crew and other gangs in a subtle way; sheās much more protective of her crew after it, though it may not always be outwardly visible, and when people fuck with them she goes after them with enough vitrol and fury to take down entire mountains. Carlosās death makes fucking with any of the Saints, but fucking with her lieutenants in particular, the worst thing you could ever do to Marāand the worst thing you could ever do to you, too, because she will hunt you down to the ends of the Earth and make you regret ever existing. Itās a weakness as much as it is a strength, and Mar wonāt hear a word about it either way.
19. Is your Boss a sociopath or simply a misunderstood puckish rogue?
ā¦I think Mar has a very seriously skewed sense of morals when it comes to things that goes way, way beyond misunderstood puckish rogue. Even looking purely at canon events, the things that go on in the series generally go beyond āgray moralityā and straight into the Boss being either a ruthless jackass or a wholly reprehensible person.
Like at the end of Act II in SR3, when you get all the prostitutes off the Morningstarās boat and have a choice about either handing them over to the Morningstar for a big cash payout or keeping them for yourselves? Is a really thoroughly shitty choice all around. These women were being kept in fucking shipping containers for god knows how long, seemingly without any food or water, and were going to be incorporated into a prostitution network that is known for being incredibly brutalā¦and you take them and just turn them into prostitutes for you instead. Really? Really?
Add in a bunch of other really shitty stuff you do in the name of the Saints or just because you donāt give enough of a shit about anyone but the Saints, including and certainly not limited to the casual and disregarded deaths that happen in the course of missions, diversions, and just travelling around Stilwater or Steelport, andā¦well. Marās not a nice person to know if youāre not in the Saintsāor, rather, if youāre not in her core people. Sheās got a lot to answer for.
Sociopathyās a whole other ballpark, and I really donāt have the knowledge about it to say anything without sounding like Iām talking out of my ass, so Iām going to let it alone. (Though I know itās a reference to that joke inā¦god, either SR3 or 4, I donāt remember which. Butā¦I donāt know. Sociopathy is just a really muddied topic in general because of how casually itās thrown around. I donāt feel comfortable rolling with the joke.)