#*shae

Hi!

Well yeah, sorry. Shae was great, I liked the changes around the character, and how that allowed to expand her storyline. It was a good change.

I actually wouldn’t mind if Ellaria gets to stick around, it would be a good solution, and you know they are going to have someone taking the place of Taena (if they don’t cast someone as Taena), there’s too much they can profit from the scenes between her and Cersei. So, yeah, that would actually be a good solution, and a good way to avoid introducing another secondary character.

I think it does… A minimal "change" there, but I guess it gives a different meaning to the moment.

There was a post about it some time ago, but it was so spoilery I couldn’t even acknowledge its existence.

ser-arthurdayne said: I think they might have Tywin kill her, just so when Tyrion does pull the trigger it looks like he did it for love and not out of slightly petty anger (petty not being the right word)

MTE. I think the only death blamed on him will be Tywin's.

  placoderm said: that would make me so mad! why else would they be focusing so hard on making him the good guy this season if they weren’t leading up to him doing something horrible like killing shae? i wannnnt it to happpennnnnnn

I think they are cleaning his image for sure, and they are building him like a "good guy". But I've turned into a pessimist about certain things in this show, and one of the things that keeps coming back to my head, is Tyrion's white-washing. I will rage, no doubt about it. IMO he's not going to be completely blamed for it. Whether accidental or by Tywin's hands, her death might not be accounted to him. SRSLY hoping to be totally wrong about this.

  biderbeck said: Tyrion has flaws, and the most obvious is his jealousy i mean come on he has rules for whores ….whores! but he has very redeemable qualities so i don’t think he’ll stray much from the book arc (D&D will follow that plan…i hope)

Oh, no doubt about it. But I think the non readers viewers have him on a pedestal in which he was placed by the show runners. So, sometimes I feel like they can't really make him be who he really is, or they might feel they lose their leading character. Idk, again I hope I'm wrong.

  wicgeeks said: you really think they’ll forgo such a dramaticaly rich, pivotal moment? Without that, how to begin Tyrion’s descent of affc/adwd? i can’t fathom the thought. I’d hate it so much.

jellybi said: My fear is that Shae’s arc is going to play out exactly like Talisa’s, and that all the expansion to her character are there to make it more tragic for Tyrion when she is killed by one of his enemies (instead of by his own hand)

I never viewed Shae and Tywin's relationship as an "affair". She found a better life with Tyrion, and he gave her protection when he was around. After he gets accused, then she's obligated to do what Cersei and Tyrwin want. She had no one else to protect her. I know it's really hard to see this, but whether she truly loved Tyrion or not, is irrelevant if she's in a position in which no one cares about a commoner, especially a prostitute. She speaking against him, was not much of a choice. She didn't have the option to say no in both cases, so I'm inclined to say she was forced to be in both situations, cause otherwise she would have been killed. The changes done to the character, sort of make explicit, what the books showed in more subtle way, since she didn't get a POV, or some way to express what was happening during this time. Tywin is a man with power, Shae is a commoner with no power. She had to do things in order to surive, and that's the sad truth. The show can easily continue with this line of development for Shae, and still make the relationsip between her and Tywin happen. They can show him putting her under his control, after Tyrion falls in disgrace. And her doing what he wants, especially with the confession part, cause I doubt they'll make Cersei responsible for that. They have been removing Cersei's agenda in her causes, so I doubt they'll make her plot against her brother that much.

Hi!

I think she’s been improving. She certainly put effort in her performance, and some of her face expressions have made the scenes she was involved in. 

I like the changes done to the character, and I think she was able to take advantage of the extra screen time. They gave her a voice, and she was allowed to explore with her character. 

I’m pleasantly surprised with her improvement. Probably the only thing that bothers me about it, has to be her accent. Sometimes is quite distracting, and most of the people point out that as the only issue they see in her work on the show. I think it’s appropriate for her to have a different accent, and I’m kinda getting used to it, so I don’t mind it anymore.