Lady Clover

The show has trained it's fandom to see things in black and white. Marinette is a hero therefor she can't be/do anything bad. It also primes them for the other oversimplification that happens more broadly in society.

That is the idea that evil is as evil does. Bad people do bad things only, and there is only one way to do a bad thing. I will caveat here that *it does not help that people ALSO use this line of thinking to disingenuously attack other people too*

If you are handling a gun you know is loaded and it goes off, killing someone. You are a killer. It doesn't matter you didn't want to kill them. It doesn't matter you didn't try to kill them. You killed them. You ARE a killer. Now, are you exactly the same as someone who breaks into a house and shoots someone? No. There are indeed miles between the two situations. ML and more broadly some in society want to erase all the middle ground. By their logic, either you're not a killer you're just a victim of circumstance or you're a bloodthirsty psycho who needs to be driven from society.

Hence, yes Marinette *is* an abuser. She's not an alcoholic parent who beats their kid for playing Xbox too loud, but she is behaving abusively towards Adrien even though that is not her intent. She is utilizing isolation and engulfment. She is taking actions and using words in an effort to make him doubt his own memories and senses. These are things an abuser does. She *can* stop doing these things. That's the other thing people don't comprehend too. They want things to be a perpetual state. Marinette can stop. There is the possibility of transition from one state to another.

ML doesn't believe people can change. It's an extremely messed up message to teach kids.

So, you can see how the fandom is trained to defend Marinette in this case. She is a good person. She is a hero. She can't be a bad person. Only bad people can be abusers. People use the same logic to say Zoé isn't being a bully in S6.

It's faulty logic but it's how they've been raised in the show specifically and more broadly in morality Olympics these days.

The 'Lie Plot' of Season 6 and beyond centers itself on Marinette's inner turmoil to its own detriment.

We are supposed to understand Marinette is in the wrong for lying to Adrien about his father, but the way this is evidenced to us is through her own guilt or getting hurt by those who confront her. Furthermore, the framing of these confrontations and outside Word of God implies that we are meant to think of Marinette's actions as her making a difficult sacrifice, not actively doing something wrong. She is put through emotional turmoil as consequence for a necessary evil, and the necessity of this evil is meant to compound on the existing tragedy of the situation.

Of course, this rings hollow for many people given the lengths she's gone to preserve the status quo she's set up for herself (ex: Lady Chaos, Nemesis); Especially when the inner turmoil of characters such as Adrien are so quickly brushed over, as the relevance of their emotional is only in terms of how it impacts Marinette and said status quo (ex: Lady Chaos). He's not an active player in this, but merely a potential obstacle to be navigated around, even if the plot pretends to be working for his sake.

(The above explains Marinette's "switch-up" in Nemesis when Adrien discusses turning the Agreste manor into a Gabriel museum. He cannot meaningfully influence the status quo in either direction, pro- or anti-Gabriel, because the lie Marinette has constructed is for the sake of reining Adrien in.)

This isn't to say that some other characters aren't active players in this. Alya is by far the character whose reactions and emotions regarding the lie have been shown the most besides Marinette, now that she has both Revelator and Nemesis under her belt. Still, her reactions are incredibly mature and subdued for 14-15. Marinette is given considerable grace under the reasoning that she's a child making poor decisions when this poor decision making could just as easily apply to characters like Alya. It would be incredibly plausible for Alya to permanently break up her friendship with Marinette! It would be plausible for her to lash out! Despite this, she lets Marinette off easy and both episodes end with their friendship being strained at best. Why? Alya cannot meaningfully impact the status quo or plot progression either. Her utility in figuring out the lie is to serve as someone who repeatedly confronts Marinette with the gravity of her decisions, and thus generate angst.

(edit: The repetition seen in previous episodes regarding the lie and its effects on Marinette would be a lot less egregious if we got to see the way other characters implicated in the lie handle it, such as Felix/Kagami/Tomoe/Nathalie, but I feel like we haven't seen much of them for very similar reasons. As refreshing as it would be to see their perspectives, it opens them up to affecting the status quo and I guess we just can't have that.)

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I really don’t know how to feel about Lila being Tomoe’s daughter.

Like… why? How? Who is her father? Does she even have one? Is she a sentibeing?

I forgot how much I loved this bit...the subtle acting with the tone and the small movement of head 👏

But logically speaking, Creation can only heal some stuff. It would be great in repairing wounds or other physical damage, but most diseases would be beyond its power to fix. For those, you would want Destruction to purge the pathogen.

Although even then, it's not quite as clear cut seperation. Some diseases like scurvy (caused by a deficiency in vitamin C) would be healed by Creation, while some injuries like a bone that set wrong (which would need to be rebroken) would need help from Destruction.

It gets even more complicated when you learn how the body itself deals with those things.

Injury recovery is mainly a process of repairing the damaged tissue, unless inflammation gets involved and then the first priority is to destroy any invaders that come inside through the broken skin.

The first line of defense for our immune system are macrophages and neutrophils which work to destroy intruders. But there's also the complement system with is insane and also definitely falls under Creation's domain. Nevermind how long term immunity is the result of our body having an archive of antibodies for every possible disease ever.

She can "create" a huge gaping hole in someone's body. She can "create" an absence of memories. She can "create" a past/present/future where whatever she wants happened.

ML keeps trying to be hard magic without the thoughts required. Then they come up with soft magic patches, but try to pretend that they aren't.

But logically speaking, Creation can only heal some stuff. It would be great in repairing wounds or other physical damage, but most diseases would be beyond its power to fix. For those, you would want Destruction to purge the pathogen.

Although even then, it's not quite as clear cut seperation. Some diseases like scurvy (caused by a deficiency in vitamin C) would be healed by Creation, while some injuries like a bone that set wrong (which would need to be rebroken) would need help from Destruction.

It gets even more complicated when you learn how the body itself deals with those things.

Injury recovery is mainly a process of repairing the damaged tissue, unless inflammation gets involved and then the first priority is to destroy any invaders that come inside through the broken skin.

The first line of defense for our immune system are macrophages and neutrophils which work to destroy intruders. But there's also the complement system with is insane and also definitely falls under Creation's domain. Nevermind how long term immunity is the result of our body having an archive of antibodies for every possible disease ever.

She can "create" a huge gaping hole in someone's body. She can "create" an absence of memories. She can "create" a past/present/future where whatever she wants happened.

ML keeps trying to be hard magic without the thoughts required. Then they come up with soft magic patches, but try to pretend that they aren't.

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