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Couldn't topple Seven's first day YouTube or Spotify numbers.
This is wild. His debut single. The group's ceiling is his floor. 😭 Wasting his time, talent and potential as a solo artist is unforgivable. I hope he stays safe and healthy and has some chance of picking up where he left off when this is all over.
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This Reddit post is from four years ago, but it could be from yesterday because they're still doing the same shit to Jungkook that they have been for thirteen fucking years.
Over a decade into their career, all in or approaching their 30's and he's immediately cast back into the role of big dumb baby who worships and was raised by the others. "Look at baby Jungkook dissociating while his hyungs speak, not a care or a thought in that head of his 🥺" gets you 30k likes from ARMY.
Gee I wonder why they aren't talking to him about this:
Not important, we need to talk to him about Namjoon's thighs for the 9000th time. ARMY will throw a party and trend topics on Twitter grossly sexualizing Jungkook when he was a minor. If you're wondering why people who have been in the fandom a long time and care about Jungkook as an individual are over it at this point, this is why. Same old shit. Over and over and over.
Many in the fandom will say "Yes JK, live your life freely!"
Many won't actually mean it. A lot would have to give him the freedom to choose against something they have invested too many personal feelings or their ego in. Some won't even be comfortable acknowledging his expressed desire for freedom. They'll twist his words or set up house in "The company is good". I also don't believe the company is capable of letting them live freely and honestly. That's just not how that company or industry work.
I hope for his sake that things change.
none of you understand the core theme of MDZS, because it tackles a fundamentally unpleasant subject. How debt is coercive, abusive, and corrodes a relationship, even if it might seem like it makes people tied to you. There's a reason that WWX's love confession contains a disclaimer about how his love for LWJ is not because he is indebted to him. There's a reason LWJ does not confess, or push WWX for a relationship. WWX is hypersensitive to the debts he owes, whether to the Jiangs, to the Wens, or even to Jin Ling. LWJ does not want a relationship where WWX feels the need to repay him. Thus, "no sorries, or thank yous between us".
Honestly, the reason a lot of people don't understand this theme is because they are stuck on the idea that WWX owes someone something, anything, they think his sensitivity to debt is something to be encouraged. But, it's not a good thing, and it eats away at him, bit by bit. That's the story of his first life. LWJ is his reward, essentially, and represents freedom from debt, a love that does not contain the subtle and corrosive coercion of debt
Stop Pretending You Know Kim Taehyung / BTS V:
We need to talk about how fake this whole idea of "knowing" idols really is — and how much damage it's doing to someone like Kim Taehyung.
BTS’s content (Run BTS, Bon Voyage, In the Soop, all the VLives) gives fans the feeling that they’re getting some kind of “real,” behind-the-scenes look at the members. but the truth is, it’s all carefully packaged and curated. it’s not some open diary, it’s selected highlights from hours and days of footage. Hybe themselves call it a "curated ecosystem". they're literally telling you: you're only seeing what we allow you to see.
and yet fans and anti fans act like 5 minutes of an edited clip gives them the right to decide who Taehyung is as a person. It’s pure delusion.
the entire system encourages parasocial relationships, fans thinking they personally know an idol who has no idea they exist . it's often a one-sided relationship, built on illusions. then when we add the toxic K-pop culture on top (where idols have to be perfect at all times) and it becomes hell for anyone who dares to be real. Idols who have show emotion or complexity get punished. the second Taehyung shows even a sliver of something that doesn’t fit the "perfect doll" image, people act like he’s betrayed them. it’s disgusting.
Created a Fiction to Hate Him
Tae is one of the most sincere, soulful artists BTS has. And yet the fandom loves to twist everything he does into something ugly.
His love for jazz is mocked like he’s some pretentious wannabe. meanwhile, Taehyung played the freaking saxophone as a kid. he fell in love with jazz as a child. It's not some trend he picked up last week . It's part of his soul. nut fans who only understand pop music and chart-chasing mock him for it, because he doesn't fit their shallow standards
His love for his family is twisted into memes and nasty gossip. The man lost his grandmother (the woman who raised him) and honored her memory while quietly serving his country. And fans still found a way to twist that into something ugly. How dead inside do you have to be to mock someone’s grief. His mother is not a public figure and jet she is used to hate him for loving her to much? when the only time he has adressed her is being thankful for feeding the bts members and being supportive and visiting the members concert.
His natural personality? If he’s shy, if he’s tired, if he’s serious, it’s turned into fan theories. "He's distant!" "He’s arrogant!" "He’s changed!" No, you freaks he's human. Not every second of his life is a performance for you.
and the gaslighting is out of control. rvery time someone gets called out for being cruel or unfunny they hide behind "it's just jokes" or "it’s just memes" ans it's not funny. it's not harmless. it's public humiliation, disguised as “fan culture.”
Hybe’s Editing Games
fans are given only pieces of the puzzle and still assume they see the whole picture. Tae is being judged on 30-second snippets of heavily edited shows and out-of-context memes. and yet Hybe sells these snippets as if they were raw truth.
Just remember: genuine authenticity is not what the cameras capture; it’s what happens off-camera. but fans rarely get to see that unfiltered reality. the difference between true authenticity and Hybe’s marketing is huge
Tae can release a solo album, speak humbly about his life, or smile quietly, and some in the fandom will punish those things because they clash with the caricature they’d built in their heads.
The Reality You Refuse to See
Kim Taehyung is gentle.
He is thoughtful.
He is creative in ways that words barely do justice.
He makes music not to dominate charts, but to heal.
He loves his family not for the public eye, but because they are the core of who he is.
He chooses to remain soft in a world that constantly punishes softness.
And yet, for all this beauty, he is still treated like he’s wrong.
You criticize him for being too real.
You punish him for not playing into the idol fantasy 24/7.
You tear him down simply for breathing in ways you can’t control.
But the truth is:
Taehyung never owed you a damn thing.
Not his smile.
Not his vulnerability.
Not his endless patience.
Not his art.
Not his soul.
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Nine years and the same old same old every time Taekook breathe. People ran here with literal anti/neighbor narratives based on misinformation wanting answers from Taekookers. Chill out or just leave. You are looking for 100% confirmation that they are together and no one here can provide that for you. Taekook can't even provide that for you if they are together. It's not going to change anytime soon so you might as well find a hobby elsewhere instead of being stuck on this rollercoaster that makes you miserable so much of the time. You don't get to celebrate the highs and then do everything you can between those moments to drag everyone down into whatever emotional mess you're going through. You're a vampire. You take and take and take and then when you're not getting "fed" you help feed anti narratives instead. You do nothing good for anyone involved. Some can't even see Taekook interacting normally without catastrophizing and ranting about the worst possible interpretation of everything completely unrecognizable from the actual reality because you have to reach for it.
Just...what are you doing here? What are you trying to accomplish? Why do all this and then act like others are forcing you to be here? It's like you want to punish other Taekookers for not feeling bad. Seriously, go find something healthy that fulfills you and stop leeching off other people and their relationships.
Jk fitting in Tae’s arms as if it’s his home..
Watching this video in loop since this morning
Some Tkk hugs..
the only thing that annoys me and I know it’s irrational and irrelevant but still jejejd that everyone who doesn’t look deeper thinks Jungkook and Jimin are the closest of them all, the best friends, or a couple. Cause from AYS, Jimin always mentioning JK in his social media activity during military service, them enlisting together and out of the military immediately allegedly back to traveling and filming. And now that KIG video etc. from the outside it looks like they are the closest duo and always hang out. And we know it’s just not true at all. And that is just frustrating idk 🤷🏽♀️
Hi anon!
Yes, I have to admit this bugs me too at times (not Jm mentioning him btw, I’m fine with that). I’m always glad with our space around here where we understand Tae and Jk’s closeness. Tae and Jk’s closeness has been topic of such hateful conversations that this has become a tender spot for me.
I love him. I love him. I love him.
For those who hadn't seen it, he wore a hat that said "Make Tokyo Great Again". I laughed but...yeah I knew it would probably start a conversation especially after another idol just had a huge scandal about an Instagram post during the election. I'm very glad he spoke up about this so quickly. Also the way he said once he found out he threw that hat in the trash. 😭
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none of you understand the core theme of MDZS, because it tackles a fundamentally unpleasant subject. How debt is coercive, abusive, and corrodes a relationship, even if it might seem like it makes people tied to you. There's a reason that WWX's love confession contains a disclaimer about how his love for LWJ is not because he is indebted to him. There's a reason LWJ does not confess, or push WWX for a relationship. WWX is hypersensitive to the debts he owes, whether to the Jiangs, to the Wens, or even to Jin Ling. LWJ does not want a relationship where WWX feels the need to repay him. Thus, "no sorries, or thank yous between us".
Honestly, the reason a lot of people don't understand this theme is because they are stuck on the idea that WWX owes someone something, anything, they think his sensitivity to debt is something to be encouraged. But, it's not a good thing, and it eats away at him, bit by bit. That's the story of his first life. LWJ is his reward, essentially, and represents freedom from debt, a love that does not contain the subtle and corrosive coercion of debt
I wish I could get as excited as everyone else but after the last couple years watching the fandom become what it is now, it feels like they're returning to a different kind of prison. From being treated like property of the SK government to being treated like property of the fandom, who tries to exert just as much will over them and their lives. The group activities shove them back in a box and get done at the expense of their dreams and goals for themselves as individuals. I'm very happy for them personally being out because fuck conscription but I will never be able to look at that fandom the same way again. I hope they have peace and true freedom soon.
I am just incredibly proud of them. My first thought when I saw the pic. These 1,5 years of service and separation that was looming over their heads all of 2023, and then to actually live it. Being separated for the first time in forever like that. And here we see them, looking healthy and happy spending time together, getting glimpses of them coordinating their vacation times, making sure to prioritize their bond and each other. Like, they made it. Almost home 🏡 I am just so happy for them, and I assume this all made them even stronger. What a test and they seemed to have overcome it wonderfully 🫶🏼
Hi anon!
Ah… all those negative anons coming here to claim or complain or whatever about Tae and Jk not having been seen together can honestly just go hide in a corner right now.
Ofcourse they meet and spend time together. It’s them! It’s what they do 😭.
So proud! So happy! Almost done!
the holy grail types of fanfic
Add in a sprinkle of angst and humour and I'm cancelling everything else to read it!
"30 years old isn't old man" what privilege do you live in where your life expectancy is far past 30 years
This post blindsided me so bad I spent a full minute staring at it in shock
Somehow you got an anon from an ancient sumerian
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for me, nothing at all changes about jiang cheng’s end-of-canon circumstances by the reveal that he distracted the guards that led to his capture by the wens after the lotus pier attack and the reason for it is simple: you can’t be redeemed by something you did before you committed your wrongdoing. the change of character and growth needs to happen after you fucked up. his prior “good” choices/“heroic” acts do NOT make him a better person in hindsight because he went ahead and acted like a piece of shit later on, anyway. it’s like saying a murderer should be pardoned because they saved a bird from dying ten years ago or that they donated to charity that one time, “omg look they had a good heart <3”. even the text treats it like this afterthought, contextually, because by the time any of it would be revealed—it’d have been way too late for anything to change. a history of violence and hate cannot be erased nor reduced by an action taken in good faith (if not good sense) before this history ever began.
redemption happens as a response to your choices in the aftermath of your fuck-ups (or in some cases, the narrative effectively nullifies the wrongdoing itself which leads to a blank slate/redemption; but that is NOT the case with jc), not as callback from the distant past when you were perhaps a less shitty person. many think jc revealing this “secret” would be significant in some way. but... how exactly would you expect wei wuxian to react to this revelation? show gratitude after jc’s choice inevitably led to the loss of his golden core? be happy that his once-buddy cared for him before jc contributed to his death and the death of the wens and the death of countless other innocents? imagine someone once close to you lied and betrayed your trust and say, framed you wrongfully so you got jailed. later, they recount how they kicked your bully in the balls when you were both in school. okay...? how the FUCK does that change anything? you are STILL in jail?
jc’s prior good will means nothing after the bridges he’s burned to the ground, burying them twenty feet under. and he knows this. he knows that revealing the truth will make no dents. wei wuxian won’t have a better view of him just because of it. jiang cheng’s actions do not gain a softer edge. the redeeming action has to come after the tragedies he has helped with and participated in. he’s not magically a better person with this context. he’s just as who he was before. because what we are evaluating his morals on was not his supposed love/care for wei wuxian but his actions. his violence. his hatred that targetted people unjustly. these do not change. these don’t go away. these should not go away. these should not be as easy to go away. that’s all.
It is perfectly acceptable in Taekooker spaces to say Tae is the only one who faces problems with the company or hurdles during his releases and it's getting really depressing that so many Taekookers are seemingly just using Jungkook and don't actually pay any attention at all to him. Or they lowkey buy into the privileged company & fandom fave narrative to explain to themselves why he pulls much bigger numbers than the rest of the group on every platform, which is equally depressing. I know Jokers are like 99% pjm and Taekooker spaces are more balanced overall, but it's hard to find any space where Jungkook isn't being treated like this. Every JK-biased or solo (not akgae) can give you a long list of how the company has fucked up his releases and treated him like shit. The only way to be a Taekooker and not know about this is by only paying attention to one side of your ship. He was the last member to get a real solo MV. Euphoria should have been his, but you know no one uplifts the OT7 agenda better than the baby that was "raised" by the group. Adding BTS to the credits of his solo songs is sabotage. Adding BTS credits to his solo songs after you see them blowing up on streaming platforms is textbook sabotage. Giving him a few days to promote Seven while sick and still forcing him to take time away to film a travel show is sabotage. Doing the same thing during his extremely limited Golden promotions is sabotage. They took him to Japan for a couple of very lowkey Golden promotions squeezed in between more travel show filming and flew him out one day before MAMA where he could have actually had a chance to promote Golden on a big stage and accept the awards he earned. I don't want to hear anything about others being the only ones to get limited promotion when he released his album and had to enlist five weeks later.
I can acknowledge how terribly that company has treated both of them. It's infuriating. But if you can't, just say you're a solo and go. If this shrinks Taekooker communities by a significant percentage it's fine, because at least I'll know the people left support and care about both of them.
