Starz

I feel like Stan and Victor are the same. Two sides of the same coin if you will. BUT, In the sense that they're both just scared kids.

Victor is in the BowersGang, and Stan is in the LosersClub, Antagonist and Protagonist, that sets them apart already BUT it doesn't erase the fact that with canon info we have (Either it be Books or the Movies) both of them are considered 'Scaredy cats'

In the Movies (And the book? Haven't read it through fully) Stan is fearful of everything going on, he doesn't want to believe that everything Pennywise is doing is real and just wants to spend his summer normally and is in denial about a lot of it. Hell after they get out of the house when Eddie broke his arm he hops on his bike and is the first to leave, almost instantly. He literally stands outside the house scared once all the others decide that they'll help defeat Pennywise before finally deciding to go in with the others and overcoming that fear.

In the book Victor is shown to be more of a doormat with his friends (mostly Henry) And a lot of the stuff Henry does, Victor doesn't agree with, he'll speak up or object to it sometimes, but he never really does anything to actually STOP what Henrys doing and tends to go along with it instead (The book points that out several times) Vic is scared of Henry, the things he does and stuff he says but never actually stops him due to that fear. BUT, at one point, while Vic does remain fearful, he does manage to have one good moment where he warns Bill, Richie and Bev of Henrys deteriorating sanity, unfortunately he doesn't exactly overcome that fear like Stan (kinda) does since he still stays with Henry after. While the two of them definitely wouldn't get along (Maybe at first...) I feel like the BowersGang and Losersclub definitely have some parallels between some members that can and SHOULD be talked about more often. I feel like it'd open up ideas to more certain dynamics and more in-depth analysis with some characters.

I refuse to see it any other way, like he looks EXACTLY like her. He gets his eyes, hair color, freckles, and mannerisms from her. Bonus points if he has siblings and all of them look just like their mom too, almost as if their father wasn't even in the room when they were conceived.

(+Reddie in the BG)

A lot of people treat them like grown ass adults and act as if they aren't as immature and childish. They may be older than the losers but they aren't THAT much older and I feel a lot of people forget that.

Bullies sure, but masterminds making a 20 step plan on how to kidnap and kill someone? Probably not! They're just doing shit without a second thought or thinking about the consequences! Their plans don't even work out half the damn time and Henry can barely read I highly doubt he's gonna be thinking for DAYS on how to attack someone, he's just gonna do it when he sees them and improvise from there.

Not to mention, it's fine to write them actually having fun! No not drinking and smoking and talking about sex, I mean actually hanging out, going to the movies and the arcade or hanging out in a pool or just running around, they're bullies most of the time but I'm sure they have at least a FEW moments where they aren't. (At least the moments when Henry isn't being a dick) But they're allowed to have fun too.

And don't get me started on the whole Nsfw/Smut fics and the implications of sexual themes. I've seen several people say they don't sexualize the losers or like implying anything sexual with them cause they're "too young" But will turn around then sexualize and slut out the Bowersgang. Hypocritical no?

They're like 1-3 years older than the losers, still the same age range, and still all underage. Some of them being slightly older doesn't mean they aren't kids anymore, slightly more mature? Sure, but adults? No!