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Messy sketch of their fursonas

5. What type of dynamic do you see them having? Are they fluffy or steamy? Are they soulmates or doomed to fail?

6. Which character developed feelings first? And is there a specific moment or way this could've happened?

7. Which character confessed their feelings first? And how was it? What did they do? How were they feeling?

8. What was their first date like?

23. Is marriage something thats in their future? Do they want to get married? Do they not want to get married? Do they break up before it happens?

25. Try and think of either 3 silly or angsty headcanons for them as a couple? Depending on the dynamic of the ship, could be anything at all. If you cant think of 3, thats fine.

Oooh, fun!

5. What type of dynamic do you see them having? Are they fluffy or steamy? Are they soulmates or doomed to fail? Definitely not doomed to fail! Childhood friends to lovers, probably leaning towards soulmates. Although, I think I'm pretty loose about throwing that term around. If they are well matched, I'm calling them soulmates.

6. Which character developed feelings first? And is there a specific moment or way this could've happened?

Gerda developed feelings first, I think. My perception is that they fit together so naturally and were so young when the shards lodged in his eye and heart that neither of them were really thinking about love or romance at that time. However, after Kai disappeared, it changed for Gerda. She could finally understand what she was missing without him. I also think the act of searching for him would also have forged those feelings and made them stronger. I also think that they both grew up during her journey and were young adults when they reunited.

7. Which character confessed their feelings first? And how was it? What did they do? How were they feeling?

I want to say Kai. Gerda knew she loved him, but I don't think she would want to tell him until he was fully settled back into being himself. However, I think that their renewed relationship is a big part of Kai's healing from his time with the Snow Queen, and, while Gerda's love for him is very sweet and uncomplicated, his is intense and full of guilt. I imagine him crying to her one night about how he doesn't deserve her or all the trials she experienced to bring him back, and somewhere in there admits that he's realized how much he loves her. Maybe Gerda is the only piece of his old life that he forgot completely while he was away, and that's because she was such an integral part of his unfrozen heart. His heart could not be frozen and hold Gerda inside of it.

8. What was their first date like?

I think they took a lovely walk around a garden or a greenhouse. Maybe they went to a nursery and bought some plants and took them home and repotted them together, just like they did with those roses when they were small.

23. Is marriage something thats in their future? Do they want to get married? Do they not want to get married? Do they break up before it happens?

Yes, I think they will get married.

25. Try and think of either 3 silly or angsty headcanons for them as a couple? Depending on the dynamic of the ship, could be anything at all. If you cant think of 3, thats fine.

Kai checks in with Gerda almost obsessively to let her know where he is and when he's coming home because she is overall very well-adjusted, but she does still carry some scars over his disappearance. So he gives her frequent updates. In a modern au, this would be texting, location sharing, etc. In a more historic setting, it would be a detailed itinerary of his plans for the day and where she can find him.

Kai often feels the most angsty about his time with the Snow Queen when he is very happy, and when the weather is sunny and beautiful. He knows that if it weren't for Gerda, he would still be trapped there and he knows how much she went through the get him back.

I can't help but picture them how they were in the video I watched as a child that introduced me to the Snow Queen, so basically two blond adults dressed in something akin to Norwegian bunad. Possibly with way too much rouge on their cheeks?

When I move past that and picture them in a modern au, I picture Kai with kind of a skater boy style and shaggy, dark blond hair at the start. And maybe we can give him brown eyes. Perhaps the one that gets the shard can turn blue??? Or get a blue spot??? After he goes to live with the Snow Queen, he dresses in sleek suits and has his hair slicked back. He doesn't smile after he gets pricked with the shards, and he walks around with his head down for the most part. Very angry and sullen.

All of my art till now of my babies

Given the themes of sexual agency in JSHK, it's not surprising to see sex referenced by the art. Some of the most obvious ones are a few between Hanako and Nene:

As you can see, these are all dessert, so I initially thought dessert in particular represented sex. However, I couldn't find any AidaIro art of Mitsuba and Kou, another primary couple, sharing dessert. What I did find...

Was art of Mitsuba and Kou sharing Burgers and Fried Octopus Balls (takoyaki). In other words, you could say Mitsuba and Kou like sharing their meat with eachother...

ANYWAY. So the literal yaoi couple share meat with eachother, and the symbolic yuri couple share sweets with eachother. Let's confirm that those sweets also include the candy and fruit that are prevalent in the art:

Nene is wearing lollipops. Hanako is eating a lollipop. Hanako is eating Nene. You get it.

The orange Nene is kissing here straight up looks like a vulva. She's not even holding it right for it to be the lips from a face. Nothing more to say really.

So if sweets are pussy, what's with the ikimen juice stand? Sure, some of the ikimen might be butch lesbians, but I don't think all of them are, and juice is sweet so... oh, oh, I get it now. I think this one is best explained by the fact that I once saw a vibrator marketing itself as a juicer. You could say its a juicing stand.

Some miscellaneous supporting food art including Nene feeding the screen a cookie, Tsukasa looking at a sundae, Aoi and Nene serving cupcakes, Natsuhiko cheering on Sakura serving sweets, and Nene looking lovingly at candy the color of Hanako's eyes. It's always girls who are offering sweets, while others admire it.

While outside of the manga, food often references sex, I don't think that's true within the manga. Instead, some form of cannibalism is often sexualized. There's Hanako eating the mermaid scale, Mitsuba being forcefed, Hakubo eating Sumire. Sex being symbolized by cannibalism is likely because society demonizes sex for women, for queer people, for mixed race couples, especially if you were otherwise supposed to have a pure, sacrificial marriage to god.

If supernaturals represent impure, e.g. queer, people, and cannibalism represents sex, then in a society that views sex as something that taints you, having sex with an impure person turns you impure, or in other words, eating a supernatural turns you into a supernatural... which has pretty much been confirmed by the manga at this point. Maybe it has to be both the flesh and lifeblood, maybe there are even more steps, but it's definitely in line.

Now here are some rough pieces. Tsukasa and Yugi-sensei are both characters known to be affected by the entity, or pit god, that represents lack of sexual agency.

It's been implied several times in the manga that Tsukasa sexually assaulted Hanako, and this goes right along with that. Or, speaking the cannibalism-as-sex language the manga speaks, perhaps Tsukasa forcefed himself to Hanako, which could explain why it took time to get his body working at the beginning of the manga. I think there's also a possibility that Tsukasa represents Hanako's suppressed sexuality, though I don't think he's going to turn out to be like Shijima, because his literal story is also valuable to the themes: the more popular younger sibling with big emotions, both positive and negative, who never learned boundaries, including sexual. In any case, Tsukasa feeding Hanako cake he's clearly reluctant to eat is representative of this.

The bloody-looking dessert serving as a backdrop for Yugi-sensei leading Nene in a dance where she looks dead inside... certainly does a great job of representing lack of sexual agency.

Questions I haven't figured out to my satisfaction:

If cannibalism is sex, doesn't this mean Mitsuba's situation amounts to "fuck or die"? 

This could represent sex work, needing to earn a living in order to survive, but that doesn't quite explain the hunger, does it? Sex addiction? Idk, I don't think I'm fully grasping the nuances of what's being symbolized here, feels like it's on the tip of my tongue... Hm, maybe Mitsuba has freaky kinks now and is ashamed? Ashamed of being attracted to Kou and other "pure" non-supernaturals like that. People who are sexually exploited often have that experience.

What's Mitsuba doing in the juice, penetrating fruit with his spear? 

Well, maybe sex work, but his facial expression here doesn't seem to match his feelings about that situation. Maybe I'm being too particular about what foods represent what kinds of sex, but besides this the pattern seems very consistent... Comp-het?

It can also be said (and from what I have seen, it is something that does happen) that part of the jshk fandom rejects and ignores the theories that the interactions between the twins hide something beyond the fraternal because they're brothers and shouldn't be seen as such.

So,

Using the analogy of "If character A were the opposite gender of character B, then everyone would support their romantic relationship, but since A and B are the same gender that makes them just good friends and 'romantic' is just a thing." part of the community", one could deduce that if instead of brothers, Aidairo had chosen to be childhood friends, would the majority of the fandom more easily accept their interaction as something more than brotherly?

If they were just childhood friends who grew up together and their relationship is the same as it is currently in the manga, perhaps the entire fandom would say, and it wouldn't be something crazy or misplaced, that there's not just friendship between the two; perhaps a one-sided love, or a childhood love that ended badly. Maybe there would even be more posts of parallels between hananene and amane and tsukasa.

I would like to know your opinion ^ . ^

Just thoughts derived from insomnia and how I love to find three feet for the cat. And since I love to see the relationships of some characters in another light to see if it's just my interpretation or if there is something more.

P.D.: ilove your theories and analysis.

Do you want me to be completely honest?

I have been very cautious when talking about this subject precisely because it is such a taboo.

It's not about gender, but about being brothers, it's not something natural or accepted, it's strange to think or talk about it in a general context, most people have brothers and know that the love they feel for them is fraternal.

So this forbidden love causes a lot of strangeness, even if it is in fiction.

But yes, I'm happy that the fandom is finally seeing that there is SOMETHING STRANGE in their relationship, it's not just brotherly love, right?

It does not seem.

Tsukasa blushes when he is with Amane, when he talks about him. Hanako also blushes when he is around Tsukasa. The way Tsukasa touches Hanako, panels where they are almost kissing, Hanako under Tsukasa in a suggestive position while Tsukasa puts his hands on Hanako's lips. The way Hanako looks at Tsukasa, whether when he was pointing at the stars or when he ran to hug Amane.

There is more evidence of romance than of a healthy sibling relationship. The way Tsukasa didn't care about anything other than fulfilling Amane's wishes…

But what about Hanako, what must he have been like with Tsukasa?

The general idea that goes through my head sometimes is that the twins fell in love with each other. For Tsukasa, in a more innocent way, that kind of love that he still doesn't understand and doesn't know how to differentiate from brotherly love, everything for him is just love.

For Hanako…. this is more problematic, Hanako is not innocent, he knows what kind of love he feels for Tsukasa, and maybe because he realizes that it is wrong, forbidden, he just buried this feeling inside his chest. Even though he felt love and desires, he seemed to want to be the "perfect" brother, as we saw in the PP arc.

Most analyzes of JSHK symbolism point to a romantic love between them, and in some cases, unilateral. An innocent twin and a pervert, opposites but with similar desires.

I always wonder why Hanako has such a latent sexual desire, as if he was repressing an old desire, and when Kako revealed this in front of Tsukasa, Hanako blushed intensely!

He literally wanted to die again, so why was he so blushing because of Tsukasa? It doesn't make sense if we don't think about the desires he might feel about Tsukasa, and because it's something shameful and forbidden, he feels bad.

"I want Tsukasa, but he's my brother, we can't! It's wrong…."

He blushed more with Tsukasa than with Nene, even when Nene kissed him on the cheek, the moment he blushed the most with her, it didn't surpass the way he blushed with Tsukasa, even his HANDS were blushed.

Think with me, Hanako wants to stop time to do any kind of perverted things, who could he stop time with so he could do whatever he wanted without anyone knowing?

He already did perverted things with Nene without needing to stop time, he can even try to do perverted things with random people, since no one sees Hanako because he's a ghost

But he couldn't touch these people even if time stopped, because in order for him to touch them the other person must be supernatural, have a sixth sense or a bond with Hanako, as in the case of Nene, Kou.

So WHO was the person he was talking about?

Touching Tsukasa with time stopped… Would it lessen Amane's guilt if Tsukasa didn't know? Hmm…..

He likes to do things in secret because he doesn't like to feel guilty, he does things knowing it's wrong, and that's why he does them in secret.

This would also explain why he was so embarrassed when Tsukasa found out that he wants to do perverted things, it was as if Kako had revealed to Tsukasa that Amane had this type of desire towards him.

A forbidden desire that Amane hides, touching Tsukasa, but he can't, so would he wish time would stop so he could do what he wants, because he believed Tsukasa would never know, would it be the only way to alleviate his desire?

When the secret was revealed, Amane felt the guilt and shame for his desires strongly.

Should I also mention the sexual connotation between eating and being devoured? Hakubo and Sumire? It was explicitly a sexual scene between the two, and well, Hanako will probably have to devour Tsukasa in the same way, so sexual connotations continue here.

So, let's go to the scene of Hanako's intense crying when he sees Tsukasa kissing Nene.

Did he see the two people he is in love with kissing? And him being left out of it?

So, let's conclude, maybe this will all lead to a three-way relationship, if Nene accepts, of course. Hanako seems to be in love with both of them, and with the way things are going, we're going to see more of Amane showing love for Tsukasa.

See his look in these two situations:

It's the same look…. in one panel he tells Nene that he's happy because she was the first girl who said she liked him, in the other panel he's talking about Tsukasa.

Same tender look, same look, SAME LOOK

BUT

It's just ONE of the possibilities, maybe it's just another one of those things that some manga authors put in, you know, to tease and give false clues, maybe it's just "ah, that's just a joke, they're just very close brothers" and nothing happens.

Aidairo created a game in which there were twins in love with the same girl, they also had a suggestive relationship between them, but nothing explicitly romantic was shown between them.

This is what I think will happen in JSHK, there is all this evidence that their relationship is romantic, but in the end it won't be anything canon, just suggestive moments.

I don't think Aidairo will have enough courage to put a romantic relationship between canonical brothers???? I doubt it, I would challenge her if I could, because I definitely don't believe she would put that on! Because it would be very brave of her to do that!!

Neither the romantic relationship between the twins nor the relationship between three. Tsukasa will probably disappear, Nene will stay with Hanako for a while and Amane will disappear too, Nene (if she survives) will be sad for a while and then forget.

It will be?

Everything is still hazy, I'm wandering between the two paths, do they love each other romantically or is it just Aidairo's joke?

I have no idea the answer, because the evidence is getting stronger and harder to ignore….

This manga has a huge emphasis on eating and food. It’s interesting that this question is posed by the character known for being a good cook.

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Comment from @hanakoisshort

"Could u explain and talk about the 2 first pictures please"

The two pictures:

Not long ago I received an ask about the connection between "eating" and "sex" that exists in JSHK in a very metaphorical way, if you're interested in seeing it, just click here

I will confess that I postponed creating this post a long time ago, but I realized that we need to talk about this. A lot of people ask me about their relationship, so I felt the need to be completely honest with my point of view about them.

Content warning: incest, cannibalism, sex

Important notes: This post exists solely for the purpose of analyzing the behavior and relationships between the characters, it is not a ship, nor an encouragement to do the same as them. Nothing I say here demonstrates my personal preference about the situation, again, it's just an analysis.

You must have already realized that the relationship between the twins is not an ordinary relationship, right? You must have found at least one or two strange behavior between them, but you chose to let it go, maybe this is a twins thing?

It will be?

Let's remember a little about what I said about the link between sex and hunger, Aidairo tends to use a lot of scenes referring to sex quite frequently and also talks explicitly about cannibalism, it's common for you to notice that cannibalism is also a metaphor for sex, like in the scene between Hakubo and Sumire, I explain it better in the post I mentioned.

Let's remember that supernaturals like to devour, eat, whether other supernaturals or humans, especially humans. It is quite obvious that the sexual connotation between the one who devours and the one who is devoured has to do with the characters' relationship.

So let's focus on the twins' relationship. They were born human, they know what it is to love and how relationships between humans work. Unlike someone who was born as a supernatural and has no idea how it works (like in the case of Hakubo).

Despite this, Tsukasa spent more time with the supernaturals than Amane, who only became close to the supernaturals later, and in addition, he encountered them very early. At four years old, Tsukasa, like any other child, doesn't really know what is right or wrong. He learned from that creature, and one of his principles is that you should be able to do whatever you want, even if it's selfish.

So, in the first phase of Tsukasa's life, we always see him blushing around Amane, it's really very common. He has a great love for his brother, but he doesn't really know what kind of love it is. He's just happy with what Amane offers him, while Tsukasa offers everything, even himself. Then, he returns as a supernatural, he returns home with that thing rooted in his chest.

He would now have the same hunger that supernaturals have. So let's travel a little to the future, we see Amane with suspicious injuries on his neck, cheek, mouth

Yes, mouth

So….

The rope marks on the wrists.

We still see Tsukasa blush when he looks at, or talks about Amane.

What is Tsukasa's favorite snack?

Does it seem to make sense?

When Amane transformed into Hanako, he began to demonstrate strong sexual desires for Nene, and perhaps, who knows, the desire to literally devour her, as he is a supernatural. The human part desires her sexually, and the supernatural part wants to satisfy his hunger.

Why is Hanako's appetite so strong? He holds back so much it's obvious.

So, about Tsukasa. He once told Nene, blushing, that they two are the same, this right after she said that she liked Amane, romantically speaking.

So let's talk about how apparently in love Tsukasa is with Amane. Yes, in love. In a romantic way.

I know, it's weird to think about, but we have some evidence. And believe me, he's not the only one. Amane also appears to have romantic feelings for Tsukasa.

The way Tsukasa usually touches Amane/Hanako, the way he usually blushes when he's around him,… Oh, let me show you more explicitly

So, to complement, let's talk about Sumire and Hakubo. Sumire saw Hakubo as her husband from the beginning, and she treated him as such ever since. We saw throughout her arc that their relationship worked that way, even if Hakubo didn't quite understand (after all, he was born supernatural, and had never learned about love). Hakubo has killed several times and none of them were in the same way as he did to Sumire.

There is a clear and obvious sexual connotation in this scene, it is the moment when he asks to take her as his wife, she is initially scared, and the way he does it, the way he likes, devouring every little piece of her.

She was his yorishiro, and to destroy her he had to devour her.

Do you know who else is a yorishiro?

Tsukasa

And who owns this yorishiro?

Hanako.

Tsukasa apparently doesn't want them to intrude at a time when it will be necessary to destroy him. Sakura made Yashiro see what happened to Sumire after she was devoured, but she did it hidden from Tsukasa (Apparently)

Tsukasa wants to resolve this between them. So, if Nene doesn't remove Tsukasa's seal, Hanako will have to devour him.

Yes, in the same way as Hakubo and Sumire.

Can you see better now?

How about if I show you this art from chapter 100

Doesn't that mean Hanako will have to devour him? Remember the sexual connotation of the scene. The way Hanako is positioned over Tsukasa, the way Tsukasa's hand is touching his lips….

This position, Hanako likes it a lot…. Who does he use this position with most often?

Besides being the same position in which he killed Tsukasa, isn't this a suggestive position for sex?

Hahaha, I think you understand now.

Amane and Tsukasa feel human and supernatural desires, the hunger they feel (but don't usually show) exists, we often see them yearning for each other, what kind of things didn't Amane do to meet Tsukasa's needs?

So, Amane being Tsukasa's "snack" could refer to the fact that he used to eat Amane at certain times (without gravity) perhaps to satisfy his desire and Tsukasa not hurt other people (when they were 12/13 years old)

After all, it doesn't matter, he always forgives, isn't that what he said?

A relationship of love, resentment, unrequited desires, passion.

So, in summary… Apparently the twins are or once were in love with each other, or at least feel a strong attraction between them. The desire that exists in them is reflected in a sexual way or through hunger. As humans and as supernaturals. They are like Hakubo and Sumire, one day Hanako will devour Tsukasa, so, if we take into account the metaphor that "eating" is similar to 'Sex', you can imagine what will happen between them.

Remembering again, this is an analysis of their behavior. Unfortunately I wasn't able to include all the photos I wanted due to the image limit

Initially, this is the impression it gives about their relationship. I didn't mention the AUS, nor the extras, which emphasize this even more. I also didn't elaborate on this in more depth because I don't know if you would feel uncomfortable about it.

It may be that in the future more information about them will appear and refute this… impression about their relationship….

Anyway, I'm going to stop here (although I have many other things to explore about this topic) because this is a response post, so I hope you didn't feel uncomfortable with the content.