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Hey shmisky š I know you arenāt very active anymore, so donāt feel pressured or anything to answer this. But I just wanted to say I love your abo fic devotion and have read it multiple times now. Condescending alpha Ford is so good I love him and want to strangle him at the same time.
Iāve wondered for a while though, about one section in chapter 2:
āStan suspected the true reason was the fact he had, quote unquote, allowed his omega to leave and treated his duty so carelessly, and not at all the blatant condescension dripping from his words, or the fact he had put a damned notice in the newspaper informing Stanley Elie Pines, 24, that he could still come to Gravity Falls, Oregon if he needed his alphaās protection.ā
What would have happened alternately, if Stan had actually gone to gravity falls after seeing that ad in the newspaper? For whatever reason, whether to take advantage and hide out from any enemies he may have had for a few weeks, or just to go yell at Ford for his audacity, or to genuinely take Ford up on the offer and try and repair their relationship. What would that have looked like?
Hope youāve been doing well and taking care!
Hii!! After a century I finally answer your ask, dear anon...Ā
Thank you sm for your appreciation š š š Iām glad thatās how you felt with my a/b/o Ford, that was definitely the goal!Ā
The newspaper noticeāI put it there as a joke, kind of to show the ridiculous lengths that Fordās condescension reached. That he exposed Stan like this in an embarrassing and humiliating manner, first by implying that Stan was an omega for every person with two neurons reading the newspaper, and second by implying that Stan wasnāt capable of protecting himself. Itās important to point out here, I think, that Ford didnāt have the slightest idea that Stan was homeless or actually struggling or he would have been absolutely freaking out! No, he was just being his old condescending alpha self, and he wrote the newspaper notice just in caseāthat was what he imagined to be a tempting offer.Ā He was also still angry and bitter at Stan, because Ford is a grudge holding champion, but he greatly valued his self-imposed sense of alpha duty and was very conscious of the fact that he remained Stanās alpha.
What would their reunion have looked like... Well, that would have been alpha!Ford at his worst! He wouldnāt have been humbled by his own failure with Bill (Billās betrayal isnāt Fordās fault, ofc, but Ford himself would disagree) or by Stanās noble sacrifice in Weirdmageddon, so his perceived superiority (one validated by his alpha status) would have been even more deeply rooted in his subconscious. The Ford you know from the fic? Imagine him 10x worse, hahaha. And if (when) he discovered what Stan went through, that Stan had been homeless, suffering... Poor Stan!Ā š
I think this Ford, after the heavy blow of the shock and subsequent enormous guilt, would have become truly, deeply overprotective, not just in his usual, vaguely condescending manner, but in an intense, obsessive, maybe even scaryāas scary as pre-portal Ford is capable of being, that isāmanner. Especially because he would have blamed himself for everything that happened with Stan, even if subconsciously; for not being there to protect Stan when Stan would have protected Ford without hesitation, even as an omega. Stan would have been pampered, but also suffocated, and soon enough things would start getting too much for him, despite his love for Ford. Stan has an inferiority complex towards Ford and because of it he loves feeling useful. If Ford started taking his freedom away to turn him into some sort of glorified housewife in a gilded cage, things definitely wouldnāt have gone well. I donāt know which part of Stan would win out inside his braināthe needy, attached, family-loving Stan who would deep down feel comforted by being taken care of and having daily evidence that his brother still loved him, or the proud, offended, independence-seeking Stan. Even if the latter won out, escaping Fordās protective arms would be quite a challenge when Ford, as I imagine him, has promised himself that he would never let Stan leave his sight again.
And Iām doing fine, yes, thank you! Hope things are great for you too, anon!! š
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fun thing ive never seen anyone else point out but is a neat detail:
ford is very physically incapable of watching stan leave. in all instances of stan "leaving", ford does what he can to physically look away which includes closing the curtains when stan gets kicked out
turning his back like a melancholic hero forced to push his beloved away after he tasked stan to get rid of the journal and just assuming stan listened (always thought it was weird he just. turned like this to stan after telling him to sail away until i realized what he was trying to do lmao)
when he got his big man feelings hurt by stan telling him hes no longer family after ford planned to kick him out (yes he has issues)
and my personal favorite which needs no explanation
i'd chalk it up to coincidences that he has a habit of turning his back or closing his eyes whenever this happens, but it happens too many times for it to not feel purposeful imo. call it dramatic protagonism or supression of abandonment issues, its definitely interesting how much ford cant stand to look at stan "leaving" him, especially since. you know. he's the og leaver between them š
Ford and Stan discuss Fordās feelings for Bill. Stancest.
Tags: abuse recovery; character study; meta in fic form; accurate and in-character to the best of my ability; undeniably spiteful; I needed to get this out of my system; mentioned past triangle/ford (you know the ship); emphasis on āpast.ā
4692 words.
āThis isnāt some dark bible or cursed gatewayāitās the last pathetic gasp of a has-been who fears being forgotten. Bill isnāt a god, heās a needy theater kid in search of a stage. [...] You canāt kill an idea, but you can think of a better one. [...] Iāve found my happiness.ā
āHmm? Oh, sorry, Stanley, I was too busy studying these beautiful translucent scales,ā he gestured to a pile of glittering stuff beneath his microscope, and alright, Stan could admit they were pretty, if only in the safe privacy of his thoughts where he didnāt have any grunkliness to uphold, āthat Nayaraāthe redhead siren, if you donāt rememberāso helpfully gifted us. Who could imagine that they can shed them, after all! Fascinating!ā
In any other occasion, Stan would have asked for some to send their grandniece. This was not any other occasion.
āYou sure... like... anomalies, huh. Monsters. Whatever. According to Dipper, you once dated a siren...?ā
āOh! Yes, yes. I have. I suppose thatās something I have in common with Mabel, despite sirens and mermaids not quiiite being the same thing.ā He chuckled quietly to himself, and Stan knew his brother enough to identify the sheer fondness in that sound. It warmed his heart a little, like a single cup of coffee with sugar, before the Arctic chill rushed in again. āReally charming creatures! I could write an entire book about their matingāā
āDoyoueverthinkaboutBill?ā
āIām sorry, what was that?ā
Stan grunted. He didnāt believe in no god, double negative and all, but a mysterious force in the universe seemed to really hold it against him sometimes. Which was ridiculous, because Stan was innocent. Could it be that wretched pink lizard? Paul Bunyan would never.
āDo you. Ever think. About Bill.ā
Fordās sweet disposition changed almost instantly. Stan didnāt need to see his face, not when his shoulders visibly tensed. Guilt wormed its way in his stomachāhe hated to be the one ruining his brotherās good mood, but he had been in a terrible one himself, ever since...
āStan. You know I do.ā
Stan cringed. Yes, he knew. He was the one to comfort his brother every time he woke up from a particularly vicious nightmare, sweating cold. Ford had learned to abandon most of his paranoia, but it had been a struggle all of its own to convince him a gun underneath his pillow was not, in fact, necessary. Bill had probably traumatized him for life, but at least that trauma could be managed with time.
āYeah, I know. I donāt... I donāt mean it like that.ā
āHow do you mean it, then?ā His tone now had a curious edge to it.
āI mean... If you still miss Bill,ā Stan whispered, steeling himself for the answer.
āSorry? I couldnāt hear you.ā
āIf you still miss Bill!ā He had to remind himself not to shout. Ford wasnāt the one with the hearing problems, between the two of them. āI know, I know, you told me that I shouldnāt ever touch TicTacāTokTikāthat strange hellish app Mabel likes so much, ever again, but! But I couldnāt help but be curious! I wanted to know what more they were saying! I knew it would be bullshit, okay? But I wanted to know what kind of bullshit! And guess what! I found out!ā
āOh, Stanley...ā Ford had turned to look at him now. There was emotion in his eyes that could almost be pity, as if they were saying, Strangers on the internet, Stanley? Really?
Stan really didnāt need his judgement now. Especially not when Ford was supposed to be the focus of that conversation.
āSo. Do you miss Bill or not?ā
āShort answer: no.ā
āNo, what?ā
āNo, I donāt miss him. Iām relieved heās gone.ā
āStanford. Be honest with me.ā
āI am. I donāt miss him. Sometimes I do miss the being whom I mistakenly thought he was, in my utter blindness and naivety. Not his true self, not whom he really was.ā Ford sighed. āThe being whom I thought he wasāI am free to admit it nowāwas especially fashioned to enchant me. It reminded me a lot of you, Stanley, in a period of my life where your absence was especially felt, down to the very nicknames you called me. Sixer, Fordsy.ā He made what Stan was Pavlov-conditioned to identify as a self-deprecating noise. āI see it now. He took advantage of my loneliness, of how much I missed my brother and human companionship. He was imitating you, not fully, but at least a little. I am ashamed of how well it worked.ā
Stan could feel his own cheeks warming. Ugh. Not the time to be a sap.
āBut that isnāt news for you, is it, Stan? I told you about how I always needed that second, that other person. You, and then Fiddleford, and then Bill, and then even poor Dipper.ā
āThatās not it.ā
āWhat is it, then?ā
āI want to know: Billās true self, for you, is...?ā He didnāt finish, hoping his brother would understand the opening to elaborate.
Ford looked puzzled again.
āYou have read my old Journal 3, havenāt you? Itās exactly as I have described him in there, both visibly and in blacklight: a monster, a screeching, graceless lunatic, an angular psychopath. The good guy he pretended to be never really existed, and it was that nonexistent good guy whom I once thought I loved, if only in an obsessed, quasi-religious sort of way.ā
Loved. Past tense.
That was enough, Stan thought. It was more than enough reassurance. Any reasonable person would be satisfied with that and not continue to push further, not with something that clearly made their brother uncomfortable. Again, Stan was not a reasonable person.
āBut what if he became that?ā
āHuh?ā
āWhat if Bill became exactly that, Ford. The good guy you thought he was. For real, this time.ā
āHe wonāt.ā He had never heard Ford sound as certain of something. āThereās no hope for a being like him, Stan. Heās irredeemable.ā
āPretend with me, okay? Indulge me, like you say.ā
āWell, then... good for him, I suppose. It would mean the Axolotlās therapy worked.ā
āAnd?ā
āAnd, what? Stanley, if youāre not clear with me, I canāt know what you mean. Communicate, remember? Imagine Mabel is here. Imagine her saying what you know she would say if she knewāā
āCan it, Poindexter! What I want to know is if you would forgive him!ā
āThe Axolotl? Thereās nothing to forgive, really. Do you mean it in a classic āGod wasnāt here when I needed itā way? No worries about that. I understand that, in the end, the Axolotās ways are not our ways and things would have turned outāā
āNot the fucking lizard, you dumbass genius! Bill! Bill! Would you have forgiven BILL!ā To hell with the no shouting policy.
Ford tilted his head like a confused dog. He had seen that gesture on the twins, before. It was cuter on them.
āMe... forgive... Bill...?ā he repeated, dumbfounded.
Stan nodded.
āStanley, do you have a fever? Are you drunk?ā
Stan shook his head.
Something too quick for Stan to identify passed like lightning through Fordās face.
And then he smiled.
āAlright, then,ā he said in a far, far too cheerful tone. āIāll just have to be a liiiittle more specific, Stanley! Just a little bit.ā His smile didnāt reach his eyes. An almost manic expression he had never seen on Fordās face. āWhat do you want me to forgive Bill for?ā
āIāI dunno, theāthe wholeāā
āFor deceiving me? For making me distrust my brother and my friend? For traumatizing poor Fiddleford? For haunting my dreams and giving me sleep aversion? For controlling my body like a puppet and bruising it all over? For threatening to commit suicide with it just because he could? For using it to ruin my reputation with the townsfolk? For tattooing it without my consent as a sign of ownership? For making my eye bleed, driving a nail through my hand, and making me eat live spiders? For persecuting and terrorizing me? For pulling my bones out of their sockets and subjecting me to excruciating pain? For threatening to erase my memories and messing with the meaning of words in my brain? For calling my brotherās number and threatening to commit suicide? For ruining my entire goddamn life?ā
Stan was impressed, it nothing else, with how quickly Ford was able to name all of those things. Did he keep a mental list? Less impressed, however, with the clear annoyance behind them. Directed at Stan? Uh-oh.
āStanford, I didnāt meanāā
āNo, no! Let me guess!ā The fake cheerfulness was grating in Stanās ears. āFor deceiving and possessing Dipper? For leaving a message to Mabel threatening Dipperās suicide? For hunting me down in the multiverse? For taking advantage of Mabelās feelings? For mocking one of my deepest insecurities? For humiliating me publicly? For turning me and the townsfolk into statues? For torturing and electrocuting me? For attempting to blackmail me? For turning Fiddleford and five more people into tapestry? For threatening to kill the three people I love the most in the world, for wanting to destroy the entire planet, for relishing in human agony, for being one of the most feared beings in the entire multiverse and terrorizing other dimensions to the point that their inhabitants were afraid to pronounce his very name?ā He took a deep breath, as if recovering his energy. As if getting ready for more. āForāā
āStanford, Iām sorry, okay? I really am! You donāt have to keep listing shit!ā
Especially not shit Bill had done to his family. Stan wanted nothing more than to bring him back and kill him ten times over.
Something in the tone of Stanās voiceāor the fact he was offering a sincere apology, and those didnāt come easy to himāmust have finally snapped Ford out of it. His visible anger gave way to deep-seated exhaustion.
āOh, Stan, no. No. Iām sorry. Remembering all those things... I couldnāt help but... take it out on you. I forget myself sometimes. It wasnāt fair and I... I apologize.ā
āItās all good. I didnāt mean to offend you, I just...ā He didnāt know what to say.
āYou didnāt offend me, Stanley,ā Ford assured, even though he was now rolling his eyes. āI was angry at him, not at you. I am just surprised with how forgiving you are.ā
āForgiving? Me? Oh, that triangle can fucking rot, Iāā
āNot towards Bill. Towards yours truly! See, only a few months have passed since we decided to sail away together and youāre already forgetting the forty years I spent holding a grudge against my own twin brother for two mistakes he never even meant to make? Have you forgotten, perchance, the kind of unforgiving bastard I am?ā The grin on Fordās face was genuine, now, and Stan had to smile at that. āMabel hasnāt forgiven him. Mabel. You saw her drawing about what she would do to him if she ever saw him again. And you think I would? Me, of all people?ā
The unbidden image of Mabel eating the demon like a crunchy nacho came to Stanās mind, and yeah, he was fully laughing now.
āFrankly, it sounds like you donāt know me at all,ā added Ford in a mock-hurt tone.
āOh, you shut your yap! I do know you, okay! Itās just that... those people on the internet...ā
āI havenāt observed a lot of insightful, sensible discussion on this inter-net.ā
āInternet,ā he corrected, just for the petty satisfaction of being the one to point out his brotherās mistakes for once.
āYes, yes. An impressive pool of human brilliance.ā
Stan really could do without the sarcasm.
āAs I was saying,ā he continued, perhaps a little too defensive, āthose people on the internet... they seemed to think you would feel...ā He swallowed. āIncomplete. Without the... dorito.ā
And just like that, any remaining anger vanished from Fordās face.
āOh, Stan.ā His brotherās tone was very, very familiar, now. Guilt. Fordās best buddy since Weirdmaggedon and the bane of Stanās life. āIāmāI didnātāā He seemed to fumble with his words. āIām sorry, I didnāt realize you were feeling neglected.ā
āThat Iāwhat?ā
āStan. Youāre one of three people I love the most. The most important person in my life. You know that, or at least I hope you know that. Iām sorry I havenāt demonstrated that in forty years, Iām sorry Iām not being as loving as you perhaps thought you would be, but I promise you, Iāll do better. Youāll never again think Bill was more important than you, because he never, ever was, and Iāll make sure that we learn how toāā
āFord, what the fuck! Iām not feeling neglected!ā
Fordās eyes widened at that. Mabel was right. He did indeed look like a startled owl.
āNo? I thought that perhaps this whole conversation stemmed from your low self-esteem. It was the only explanation why you would think I was feeling incomplete when my real soulmate and adventure partner is right in front of me. Bill couldnāt ever compete against you.ā
Paul fucking Bunyan.
āStanford, Iām not having a self-esteem crisis.ā He sighed. āI am worried about you, because I happen to know that many... abuse victims... have mixed feelings about their abusers, and... um. thatās, uh... thatās valid, you know. Totally valid.ā
āDo you? How do you know that, Stanley?ā He raised an eyebrow. āWho āabusedā you?ā
āStanford, again, I donātāā
āPa... Of course!ā Ford spat, brows furrowed, protective rage all over his features. āPa was your abuser. Iāve never associated this particular word with him before, but now I see it. I really do. Iām so sorry, Stan... Iām sorry I took me so long to see it...ā
āPa wasnāt an... an abuser! He just didnātāā
āSee! Defending him even now!ā Ford ran a hand through his face. āStanley, I know that this happens. You are the living proof of that. Dipper told me about how you talked about Paās ātough loveā approach, as if it was something you were grateful for.ā
āWe are talking about you, Ford!ā
āAre we? Because I think weāre talking about you. I think youāre projecting your own experiences with abuse onto me and expecting me to feel as you do.ā
Wow. Candid as ever. Some of his hurt must have shown on his face, because Fordās face softened.
āIām sorry, Stan. That was mean. But whatās up with that kind of talk? It almost seems like youāre the one going to therapy, with that... uncharacteristic wording.ā
āAlright, alright, you got me!ā
Slight surprise flashed across Fordās face. An arched brow was quick to follow, a knowing ācaught you with your hand in the cookie jarā glint in his eyes.
The pomposity. The audacity. Stan would bet his ass Ford couldnāt guess the truth in a million years.
And that was why, obviously, he crossed his arms. Exactly like the petulant, immature child Ford thought him to be. Because he wasnāt that.
āWell?ā
Oh, to hell with it.
āYou know I like writing my own Duchess Approves stories, right? And I might or not have mentioned it to Soos and he might or not have told me itās apparently called āfanfictionā and that thereās a big public on the internet for that, so I asked him to teach me the basics. Turns out there was a fandom of Duchess Approvesāif you donāt know what a fandom isāā
āStan. To the point.ā
āWell. People were saying that the Duchessā mother was a ānarcissistic motherā and an āabuserā or something and using all kinds of shrink talk and that got me feeling weird because her mother was just... she was just like Pa.ā
āAnd?ā
āAnd I may or not have created a self-insert fanfiction with characters based off all the people I knew and written about our whole love story in the guise of an AU. Alternative Universe, you know. Like a different story from the original.ā
āAnd?ā
āAnd the fans are getting weird about you and the triangle.ā
Ford laughed, looking tired but genuinely amused.
āOh, only you, Stan...ā
āNo, really! They loved the plot and that made me over the moon! Like wow, people really like what I write? Soos was right! They made fanart and everything!ā
āCongrats!ā Pride was added to Fordās amusement. Stan felt like a petted dog.
āThey adored your relationship with that godsforsaken demon and kept drawing you two smooching and at first I was like āughā and āyikesā but then I was like āalright,ā you know, ācause that had been my own fucking fault for writing it based on my stupid fucking life. I was not going to take it personally, I decided after the third our fourth fanart. They all thought it was fictional, and... and I suppose you did have a relationship with Bill, right? So to each their own.ā
Ford didnāt seem very surprised. Nor impressed. Nor offended. Stan supposed that the Thirst Comments Incident had left him thoroughly desensitized.
āBut?ā
āBut then it started getting out of control! Now some of them are pretending Bill was just a silly little clown or a poor lonely misunderstood soul who just wanted some lovināāā
āClassic case of delusionāā
āāshoving even his most horrifying actions under the rugāā
āPeople do the same for corrupt politicians, donāt they? One just needs enough charisma and lying skills, so I doubtāā
āāand twisting everything I write for their own sick purposes andāand theyāre saying that I meant things that I most definitely didnāt mean! Theyāre seeing clues and parallels where I didnāt intent them to be at all and now... now everything is fucking fuel!ā Stan was aware his desperation was seeping into his voice, but he didnāt care. Ford had to know. āNo matter how much I try to make it obvious that you are totally over Bill! For real, Poindexter, I tried, I swear I did! I tried answering their comments, I tried making a disclaimer, I triedāā
Ford started laughing again, now, which was more annoying than endearing.
āI take fandom very seriously, okay?ā
āI can see that.ā
āTheir arguments started getting to me! Some of them were really well-worded and smart-sounding! Like as if it was you talking to me, with āevidenceā and stuff! So I thought that maybe, just maybe, they knew what they were talking about, perhaps...ā perhaps more than me, he didnāt say, because that would be ridiculous. They couldnāt know Ford more than his own twin brother and lover, right? Even though Stan hadnāt lived with Ford for four entire decades...
āHm-hmm.ā
āAnd I answered your questions, so now get back on track, nerd.ā
āAre you sure I am the nerd here?ā
āStanford.ā
āAlright, alright. Just looks like youāre stressed over nothing, thatās all.ā
āStanford, you donāt understand! They seemed to consider your relationship with Bill more important than your relationship with... with your family!ā
Ford raised an eyebrow. Ugh, his brother knew him too well.
ā... Than your relationship with me,ā Stan admitted through gritted teeth. āYes! You were right! I was feeling insecure all along and Stanford Pines is always fucking right! Satisfied?ā
āNot if it makes you suffer, no. You do know they are wrong, certainly...?ā
āWell, y-yes, but...ā
āIn my own experience, it really is like you saidāsome abuse victims do feel like that, and itās... itās āvalid,ā or whatever the kids are saying. Itās valid if you feel this way about Pa! But the contrary is also true and also valid. I am being completely honest with you when I say I do hate Bill.ā
āYou know what they say, though, right? People in general, I mean, not just on the internet. Hatred is close to love and all that. The contrary of love is not hatred, but indifference.ā
āOh, yes, and what an indubitably sensible perspective that one is. I was feeling very loving towards Bill when I was fantasizing about and orchestrating his death and humiliating downfall at my hands, and similarly, naturally, feeling very hateful towards the you and the children when I was willing to give up the entire universe for a slim possibility to save you.ā
āYou... you did hate me, once!ā
Ford sputtered.
āHate you? Hate you? Are you insane? I have never hated you, nor Fiddleford, for even a second! Nor did I ever thought I did!ā
Oh.
Those were news. Stan could address them later, though.
āIām not that emotionally unintelligent, Stan.ā
āFordāSixerācan I call you Sixer?ā
āOf course you can. And Fordsy, too, even though it annoys me. Iāll be damned if I let Bill ruin anything else for us. I donāt want nothing related to him ever remaining a taboo.ā
āSixer. Can you, uh, explain exactly how you feel about him as if Iām dumb? āCause I kind of am.ā Ford opened his mouth, probably to reassure Stan of his nonexistent intelligence, but he continued. āJust... be clear. No sarcasm, okay? It would put an old manās mind at ease. You know what Mabel would say to that, too.ā
His brother didnāt miss a beat.
āStanley. Stanley, I loathe him. I fucking despise him. Iām over him, but Iām not indifferent. You saw, with my initial reaction to his book, that Iām not indifferent. I canāt bring myself to be indifferent, even if indifference is the commonly accepted āopposite of love,āā he included air quotes, then, also rolling his eyes to make sure Stan knew how stupid he thought that was, ābecause he utterly and thoroughly ruined my life and traumatized me. Iām but human. He made me afraid of my own shadow for decades. He will always remain my enemy, it would be foolish to pretend otherwise. Itās really that simple.ā
āAnd... and before the betrayal?ā
āItās complicated. Have you ever had a religious experience?ā
Stan shook his head no.
āDo you even have to ask?ā
Unless the whole thing with Paul Bunyan counted, that is...
āHe was like a god to me, and not only in the āpowerfulā sense. He was my Muse. I worshipped him. I was obsessed. I donāt know if that counted as love, Stan, but letās say it did, for the sake of simplifying things. Letās make it easier for you to follow, letās say I ālovedā him.ā He sighed. āI thought I loved him religiously at least, and... after reading his book, looking back...ā His voice grew quieter.
Stan understood. The romantic ārejected exā undertones of that book were very hard to miss. Bill was about as subtle as a bull in a china shop.
āI might indeed have loved the personāsorry, the triangleāI thought he was, once, and he was the center of my stupid galaxy, and thatāthat was a beautiful but cheap illusion. An illusion that was very, very painfully shattered and cost me very, very dearly.ā
āI know. Iām sorry.ā
āAny love that I could have retained for him in spite his initial deceptionāany sympathy in spite of his gut-punching betrayalāwas gradually but completely destroyed by Bill himself, poisoned by my own hatred and resentment, and eroded until nothing was left. I have loved him for two years, and hated him for thirty. Now I look back and only feel pity for the wide-eyed, dreamer boy that I was. I mourn what could have been, had Bill not been... well, had Bill not been himself.ā
āHe didnāt get over you, yāknow. Bill, I mean. His pathetic little book left that very clear.ā
āOh, yes. I do know. Thanks to you, I now see that it was pathetic. And desperate. And deluded. Guess he finally realized what he lost.ā He smiled again, although it looked more like baring his teeth, and something cold flashed in his eyes. āGood. I want him to suffer.ā
Perhaps Stan should be alarmed, but he wasnāt. He felt like he was truly relaxing after a good while, a knot undone in his stomach.
āI did wonder, you know. While in the multiverse, I hated him so much, and I often wondered if I hated him only because I didnāt allow myself to feel nothing else. I am very, very good at ignoring and repressing my feelings, Stan.ā His brother chuckled, as if he and Stan were sharing an internal joke. His feelings for Stan, he realized. Those were the ones Ford repressed. āSo, deep down, I wondered and wondered and wondered. I wasnāt sure I didnāt love him at all anymore until the moment I had to kill him. I was shocked to look inside and find no regret, no fear, no remnants of love. All that was gone, lost forever in a distant past. There was only the bleak determination to rid the world of his evil. You werenāt there, of course, but Dipper was. You can ask him. My hand didnāt tremble. I didnāt hesitate. I didnāt flinch. I was proud of myself for that.ā
āI justāDipper mentioned once as we were having breakfast that... that you cried after his defeat, and I thought... maybe... I didnāt know what to think, really, but after all I saw and read in the Duchess fandom... I was feeling unsure.ā It was still hard to talk about his feelings. āThatās why I came to ask you.ā
āI did, Stanley. I cried for you. It was a bitter victory, because I lovedāI love youāway more than I have ever hated him.ā
Woah. Stan could feel the glitter of those damned scales getting to his eyes. They were watering.
āI supposed I shouldnāt have given him the honor of a funeral, even a mock one with dear Mabelās witty disrespect, but... I wanted to. I wanted closure. To revolve my life around my loathing towards him was to revolve it around him all the same, but I wanted visual proof that this chapter of my life was overādead along with him. It might not be over for him, but hah! Thatās not my business. Not anymore.ā
Stan didnāt think it was possible for him to relax more, but it was. Oh, thank Paul Bunyan.
āAnd Stanley... promise me you wonāt give those people on the internet the time of day, alright? If thereās one thing I learned the hard way, itās that human beings, smart or not, always see what they want to see. I have been exactly like this once, remember? Twisting everything in my reality to fit my worldview. You could make my post-Weirdmaggedon characterāā
āThe term is āpost-canonā... by the way.ā Stan supplied, trying to sound casual and non-nerdy. āAnd his nameās Duke Oglebottom.ā
āAlright. You could make my... āpost-canonā character... Duke Oglebottom... hunt down and viciously stab Billās characterāā
āCount Billiamāā
āCount Billiam? Seriously, Stan? Anyway, you could make post-canon Duke Oglebottom hunt down and viciously stab Count Billiam twenty-three times and they would stillāā
āāship them, yeah. And think theyāre meant to be.ā Stan sighed. āThey would.ā
āShip them? Ship them to where?ā
āItās, like, wanting them to be together. People just really, really like yaoi.ā
He didnāt tell Ford, but there were definitely people shipping Duke Oglebottom with his long lost twin brother, the humble but dashing stable boy, too. Those freaks. He was proud of them.
āYatch? Like a boat? Are they that interested in sea adventures?ā
Stan sighed.
āForget it.ā
āWell. No matter. My point is that people would still see what they want to see.ā
Ford get up from his chair, then, holding Stanās face with both of his wide hands.
āStanley, you might not believe this, but the void left in my heart by Bill, if there ever was any, has long been filled. By the children. By you.ā He pressed a chaste kiss to Stanās forehead, then to both his eyes, then his nose, and finally, his lips. āAnd if you canāt believe that, believe this, at least: even if I ever forgave him for the innumerous, terrible things he did to meāwhich, rest assured, I sure as all hell wonātāIāll never forgive what he did to whom I love. If he ever attempts to hurt you, Mabel, Dipper, or Fiddleford, any more than he already has, Iāll rip him apart.ā
Stan shuddered. His nerdy brother really could be scary when he wanted to, not that he would ever admit it. Again, privacy of his thoughts and whatnot.
Not to be dramatic but I would die for you (I love your meta posts so much and the character study in your fics are chef's kiss, my personal favorite being the omegaverse one and how you worked on how different Ford's perspective of Stan as a person would change drastically if he was a omega)
Well HELLO anon thank you soso much!!!!! That was a lovely ask to get!!
I actually wouldnāt consider my omegaverse Ford to be 100% in-character (that was kiiind of self indulgent, I must admit š) but my Fords always have that healthy dose of protective condescension in them because itās a trait canon Ford has that some might dismiss or find annoying but I happen to find delightful š Love your enthusiasm about it!
I have a question. Why in "What people often get wrong about young Ford" you wrote that Caryn failed to defend Stan? I mean, you wrote your other meta that she didn't intervene when Stan was kicked out... like, she didn't even try. Like, you understand what I am trying to say? By the way, I loved the post and I love your analysis. You are brilliant.
And second, when we say someone āfailed [to do something]ā in English, itās not always implicit that this person actually tried to do it and had that attempt frustrated.
It can also mean that it was something this person should have done but didnāt do (nor attempt to do), such as in Carynās case:
I get your confusion because in Portuguese (my first language), for example, it isnāt like this ā āto failā would indeed imply an attempt. English is just weird sometimes.
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Omg ok I think I found another extraneous detail that I can wildly contort into something that feeds my sick Stancest needs.
Stanās fanfiction.
So hereās an excerpt of official audio from Alex:
The setup is that the duchess cheats on the duke with this self insert āstable uncleā. Ok what youād expect so far, he self ships himself with the attractive female lead, and his romantic rival is a very well spoken duke with whom he has some mutual disdain for (hm⦠well spoken and antagonistic toward him, I wonder if thereās anyone he drew real life inspiration fromā¦?)
As a side note, I would like to point out that he describes the affair as āforbiddenā implying that forbidden love is an appealing idea to him...
But what makes this really interesting is the title of his fanfic. Which is this:
The DUKEāS Temptations, not the stable uncleās or even the duchessās temptations. The DUKEāS. Now this is a little odd considering that this duke character isnāt his insert character but rather a RIVAL to his insert character. The assumed scenario from the audio would be that the focus is on the duchess having an affair with Stanās insert, but this suggests that the focus would shift and that the duke himself is tempted into an affair.
Given that the dukeās speaking patterns sound awfully similar to fordās as well the petty jabs at each other sounding just as familiar, I think itās safe to say that the duke is the ford insert character.
And being that the title is what it is, I really donāt think itās a stretch to say that the duke must become the main love interest for stanās insert. I mean Stanās character must remain the protagonist right? It would be odd for him to write an insert fic without his own romance being the main focus.
So there would be a change in attitudes on both sides. Literally enemies to lovers. Two men who come to understand each other amid their competition and develop a mutual passion that runs much deeper than their contempt ever did. A forbidden and dangerous affair. A temptation that neither can resist. Wow. Soos needs to needs to upload this to ao3 asap. I wanna read this now.