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mike flanagan is anti-horror. grey brown netflix sludge, tenderness without intimacy. his little limp dick narratives are skin deep, no flesh no blood, no honest exploration of the works of art that he's being lauded for willfully misunderstanding. "from the heart and soul of mike flanagan" is oxymoronic and stupid and as trite as his FUCK NOTHING television shows and movies.
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mike flanagan's what if the world was made out of pudding cinematic universe
funny to see that flanagan can't commit to the depth & messy complexity that good stories require both in his adaptions (carrie's mother wasn't evil!! she was just misguided <3 no she was a terrible person who experienced terrible things and then inflicted that same pain onto the one person who she had control over AND looked up to her all in the name of the god who let those terrible things happen in the first place (as a lesson of course. how else will you learn not to sin?) that's what makes their relationship so tragic and layered!! sorry whatever. whateverrrr) AND his original shows. my introduction to him was through midnight mass and the setup was sooo juicy (exploring the thin line between divinity & monstrosity) but it became obvious very quickly that he's only interested in storytelling at a very surface level. not in a show-don't-tell way but like... look at how subversive and scary my work is ooooh rather than really grappling with the weird, fucked up dynamics that pop up in highly religious small communities & families. idk if that makes sense i just remember thinking fuck ok i NEED to know more about the muslim sheriff of this small white catholic island town like. there's sooo much to unpack there but he was so busy trying to tell everyone's story that he ended up telling no one's story imo...? so everyone had to be flattened to archtypes. idk it's definitely one of those ouugh-the-missed-potential shows for me and now i just laugh when i hear him described as a horror darling or whatever (sorry for super long ask!!!!)
noooo donāt apologize! i honestly feel euphoric at seeing so many people agree that heās not the horror auteur heās made out to be. i havenāt seen midnight mass and donāt plan to but i canāt say iām entirely shocked that his issues carry over to his original content. he strikes me as someone who is afraid of making his protagonists truly nuanced or even irredeemable, so they all have to be flattened to archetypes, like you said. i genuinely donāt know why! does he think itād reflect poorly on him? that his audience is so dumb as to think of the charactersā flaws as his own? why get into horror if you canāt stand darkness or uncertainty?
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sounds like ass š©· how much do you want to bet carrie wonāt purposefully kill anyone in this version
i hate this motherfucker so much oh my god. will this series finally be the wake up call for the horror community to stop sucking his dick
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prev I think his problem is that he's a lazy entitled hack, honestly? Remember those parody horror adaptations from a few years ago, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies? I think Flanagan is just as lazy but less self-aware. He doesn't really see the problem with taking a Shirley Jackson or Stephen King original concept, tacking his own crappy half-formed idea onto it, and repackaging it as a creative adaptation. Flanagan isn't really adapting these original works. Adaptations are supposed to use the original material as a springboard into some new creative work. For example, in A Thousand Acres, Jane Smiley adapted the story of King Lear into a new story about a misogynist landowner and the cruelty he inflicts on all three of his daughters. Smiley's adaptation took the source material into account. She used Lear's pride, his patriarchal entitlement, his alternately callous and grasping behavior towards his daughters, and the sorrow and bitterness that drove them into conflict with each other. She maintained much of the character and plot detail, and where she kept it she made sure to account for its effect on the story. Smiley also built something new. Her adaptation focuses on the perspectives of Regan and Goneril, who in her version are heroic survivors. She also highlights the consequences of Lear's selfishness for the land itself. This theme was certainly present in King Lear, but she brings it to the foreground, and transforms it from a war of succession into generational environmental depredation. She also opted to change emotional incest into actual explicit incest, because she was interested in exploring patriarchal abuse of women. Similarly, it would be interesting to see a version of Carrie whose mother is a tradwife influencer attached to a megachurch. Imagine the shower scene as a viral video staged by her mother! Who knows if that would be good, but it would be a creative exploration of the themes from the original: misogyny, shame, exposure, bullying. It would also involve using details from the original - the mother's inability to see her daughter as a person - to explore these themes in a new way. If you "adapt" original work without acknowledging the source material or connecting it to a fully-realized new idea, you're just appropriating. You're using the reputation and quality of a more famous original work to add luster to your own thin premise. It's clear that Flanagan doesn't respect the source material. He turned his Shirley Jackson "adaptation" into a paean to the transcendent love of the nuclear family. He doesn't care about what these original works are trying to say. He just likes the vibes. Spooky British Manor! Spooky Vampire Island! Spooky Telekinetic Girl! It's hard to ignore the source material and use it effectively to build something new (imagine a version of King Lear where he's presented as a good dad), but it doesn't seem like Flanagan is even trying to present a novel idea. His works are atmospheric and competent, but they're just a hash of horror tropes. His Netflix series were more like a collection of vignettes than a cohesive story. This idea is an interesting one, but it's not Carrie, and it doesn't sound like he really plans to think through the horror implications of "a mother who tries to create a private utopia for a sensitive girl who turns out to have telekinetic powers." I think Flanagan doesn't see the difference because nobody ever told him that being a horror auteur is about more than gorging on the classics and then huffing your own farts.
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thank you so much for fighting in the war on mike flanagan. i found it so egregious how he named a character in netflix the haunting of hill house after shirley jackson but had the in-universe version of the book authored by a male character. like just evil
yes! not to mention how the character of shirley cheats on her husband, when it is well known that shirley jacksonās husband was a serial cheat and that she was very upset and humiliated about it. a genuinely evil writing decision!
such a relief to come across other bloggers that don't like flanagan ššš I truly do not understand how he keeps getting the rights to adapt these classics when it's clear he doesn't give a shit about them! he's just pathologically unable to engage with any upsetting themes whatsoever! sorry ik I'm preaching to the choir here but the Carrie situation is actually driving me insane
iām so glad iām not alone here lmao. heās got name recognition now! i find it hard to imagine he has to keep āadaptingā classics when he clearly does not want or have the capacity to!
it is unfortunately a wake up call for me. i didn't mind when this happened with hill house because (although i wish it was called something different) i thought that it was separate enough to just feel like its own fully original thing that's just referencing the book. and that the themes it DID have to offer were worth telling and well executed. but then he kept going and it's been a grim dawning realization of 'oh it's not because it was his first project it's just something he does full stop.' similar to like 'oh it's not that he wants to explore those themes specifically, it's that he DOESNT want to explore all these other themes.' this last thing has just... made the pattern clear to a point i can't ignore, which is a bummer. (the pattern is a bummer tbc not the fact that i've registered it)
yeah once you notice it, itās hard to ignore. i know original projects are notoriously hard to produce, but damn, heās famous enough now. surely he can stop attaching himself to horror legends at this point!
The Carrie show sounds bad, but pretending that haunting of Hill House and haunting of Bly Manor werenāt incredibly beautiful is wild. And also, at the end of the day, these are just stories and thereās no reason to have so much vicious hatred for one guy just cause he doesnāt tell stories you like. I hope you have a good day!
theyāre serviceable as entertainment but they arenāt so beautiful when you consider the stories they bastardized. the haunting of hill house is a novel that is, at its very roots, about familial and social isolation. eleanor has no one who cares for her, no home to call her own. she spends the first 30-some years of her life caring for a mother who does not love her. she lives with her sisterās family, who she mutually resents. she leaps at the chance to go to hill house, to be special, to belong. she does not have a happy ending. whatever walks at hill house, crucially, walks alone.
the show does not respect jackonās story, it is not in conversation with it. it frankly takes great pains to trample on everything that makes the novel what it is. as someone who loves shirley jacksonās whole body of work, who has read at length about her fraught relationship with her own mother and with family and the expectations placed on the women of her time, i cannot see the show as anything but insulting and misogynistic.
i canāt speak about bly manor because i havenāt read the turn of the screw, though iāve heard similar complaints from those who have.
what difficult themes do you think mike has trouble with the most
anything you might find in gothic fiction such as familial abuse, incest, period typical misogyny/racism/homophobia, etc. pretty much anything that isnāt pretty and easily resolved in 8 episodes, and that can make for more deeply flawed relationships and characters

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I'm trying very hard not to fall into the whole illiteracy crisis thing but the number of times I have been like "Here is my stance on this very basic thing, with the extremely basic, almost childishly unnecessary caveat that there is an exception of X circumstance" only to have people be like "SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH X SITUATION? WHAT ABOUT IN CASES OF X? HAVE YOU CONSIDERED X CIRCUMSTANCE?" I am very close to bypassing "literacy crisis" and devolving directly into fascistic modes of thinking e.g. thinking you "people" are lower than dogs to me
Like I am genuinely stunned at how often I have to be like "I don't care if you think bad thoughts as long as you don't DO bad things" "So you're okay with people doing bad things?" I am okay with you, specifically, getting slowly crushed by a steamroller over the course of 8 excruciating hours while your weeping loved ones watch in horror, except I suspect you don't have any
Like I feel insane at how often I have to screenshot my OWN POST, HIGHLIGHT THE RELEVANT SENTENCE, and reblog while going "Read this again but slowly." Why the fuck are you commenting if you're gonna be like "Okay so admittedly, did not read this." Do what every adult does on this site and like the post while lying to yourself that you'll return to it to read it more carefully later and then forget it exists