An interview with an Illustrator! Meet Saskia Cameron!
As part of this process we were meant to visit a working illustrator, you know buy them a coffee, watch their working processes, have a chat. Sadly due to a certain pandemic we were unable to go visit Saskia in her studio at Banks Mill. BUT she was kind enough to answer some questions that Ellie Gratrick and I had, so get ready for another Q and A blog!
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How did you get into illustration?
I studied illustration at Edinburgh College of Art - I had done a foundation before that and honestly I don't think I really got the opportunity to try enough stuff there, I wish it had been a bit less narrow! I knew I liked drawing and I was good at it, and I was too impatient to do animation at the time, so I picked illustration! But I think overall it was a good choice - what I really love about illustration is how good it is at transcending boundaries, and now I dabble in textiles, graphic design, all sorts.
Top 3 illustrators that inspire you?
Oh man this is a hard question.
work - I work a lot in woodcut and lino myself and it's great seeing that someone else is out there doing that too. It's a weird medium to work in nowadays as it can really restrict how you work to a deadline, but usually if a client wants it they're willing to put up with those restrictions.
is a really great illustrator in the truest sense of the word - his work is clever and clearly communicates concepts visually.
is brilliant, his work always pushes me to loosen up and open my horizons about what drawing and narrative can be.
Honestly although I do look at a lot of illustration, I think the most important thing is to have people who AREN'T illustrators to inspire you, don't get stuck in an echo chamber of your own discipline. Other creative people who really inspire me are:
(graphic designer, illustrator, art director, allsorts man)
(graphic designer artist type - he's prolific and so creative)
Palefroi (this is arguably illustration, but they're a collective of two, and focus on print, art, installations, small press and animation)
And that's just contemporary people - I like to look at a lot of stuff from the past as well, and if you asked me next week I'd probably have a different list of people!
When you create a new illustration, what is your process?
Research > rough exploratory sketches > thumbnailing > work up a couple ideas > pick one and refine it into the final thing.
What's your favourite thing to draw right now?
I'm really into drawing people's gardens at the moment, especially those ones that are really overly 'done' you know, with sculpted hedges and garden gnomes and stuff. I just think they're really weird.
Is illustration your sole income or is it managed around another job?
Nope! My illustration work has always always been wrapped around at least one other job. This has varied from cafe/bar jobs, to admin jobs, to teaching. At the moment, I teach part time on the
graphic design course at Nottingham Trent.
Most illustrators I know work other jobs most of the time - it's pretty standard, especially at the start of your career. Personally I like this, I think I'd go a bit crazy if I was working alone on my own work all the time. I try and stay open to what my working week looks like, because at the end of the day I need an income, and freelance work can come and go. For me, I don't plan to ever go full-time freelance - I don't like the pressure it puts on my work, it can suck the joy out of it when you need it to provide all your food and shelter.
Honestly I still consider myself fairly early career, I'm only 26 and it can take a really long time to carve out a creative career, particularly if you don't come from a wealthy background that can offer you a safety net. I worked full time my first year out of uni as a studio assistant, then went from that to working 3 jobs, then did a masters at Glasgow School of Art and now I've moved back home to Derby and until recently I've been working 3 jobs again! Wrapping an illustration career around that has been tough going, so for me it's only now that I feel I have the time and space to start making this all work properly.
If illustration is an income, is the work you produce mainly through commissions/selling prints/etc?
Mostly commissioned work! I need to develop more of a passive income, and I'd like to get into selling work more. So far it's mostly practicality that's been stopping me, as I've moved every year for the past 4 years. I'm hoping to be a bit more settled soon!
Do you find putting your work out there on Instagram helps? And whatâs your attitude towards social media?
There's no good answer to this.
Yes, it helps. I've had a fair bit of work come through Instagram - and most art directors/clients out there look at it even if its not their main way of finding illustrators.
But it's not the be all and end all, the work I've had through it is just a product of having my work out there in the world for people to see - that's the important part. So exhibitions, physical and digital mailouts, networking in person, all of those things are just as likely to find you work.
Social media is good for getting seen, but it can be a bit of a sinkhole. My attitude is to use it but not get too reliant on it - really I should be a lot better at updating mine, but I find real life gets in the way a lot! Thanks for reminding me to actually get organised with that.
Do you find it more productive having a separate studio space vs working from home?
Oh my god yes. But as a caveat - I have never had the luxury of a dedicated space at home. I think if I lived somewhere with a spare room I could convert to a studio it would have a pretty similar effect.
Studios vary a lot too - I'm on my own in this one, but usually they're shared spaces. I think my dream scenario is to find shared studio space so I have other creative people around me to bounce ideas off and keep me motivated!
I think however you work, it is important to get out now and then. Either for a walk or for your second job, whatever it is.
If you can say What are your ambitions or future projects?
My current plans are a bit up in the air at the moment with the corona virus!
As I was saying above - I'm finally getting into a position to push my illustration career a bit, so I'm working on getting some new, self-directed work together. I'd like that work to be a bit multi-discliplinary, and to involve making work to sell so my income is a bit more diverse.
I have a lot of big ambitious plans, but for this week I'm just focusing on keeping alive the commission that came in last week - I know it could be a difficult few months ahead and it could be my last in a while. After that, at least I'll have a lot of time to work on personal projects, so hopefully at least my portfolio will benefit! I have a collection of illustrations that I'm working on putting into a book of some kind, and I'm starting to work on getting a collection of prints, textiles and objects together over the next 6 months to start an online shop!
I'm looking to get into a more permanent work/home/life set up soon, but who knows -
life looks like it's being put on hold for a while.