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OK now that I think about it, it makes perfect sense why a three thousand year-old woman would knowingly begin a relationship with a mortal man of 25 and give birth to his children knowing full well she was gonna die as soon as she left the very place that allowed her to be that old in the first place. All this time I’ve been tryna wrack my brain as to why Kouka would do something so stupid, but now I realize… why the fuck not? A couple thousand years alone on a big ass planet with only snakes for company has to fucking traumatizing. And like, at the end of the day, her selfishness in choosing happiness with Kankou over the future of her children is absolutely valid in her eyes because she knew… hoe knew she was never gonna get that chance to be happy ever again. The comparison to Utsuro’s history is absolutely stunning because he’s been around for thousands of years on a planet filled with people, and yet, he suffered the same fucking loneliness and depression that ruined Kouka. And he adopted children, took up different monikers, but at the cost of his own sanity. He developed dissociative identity disorder because of years of torture and imprisonment, he tried to walk the line between good and evil and failed, he tried to leave behind a legacy and failed, and at the end of the day, he’s doing exactly what Kouka did but on a larger playing field- putting his own selfish need for happiness and freedom at the cost of the wellbeing of those around him. In Kouka’s case, the major victims were her children, but in Utsuro’s, it’s aboutta be the whole goddamn planet. Jesus Christ.
OKAYYY But can we talk about this heartbreaking parallelism?
Kagura’s first family was broken. Kouka died. Umibouzo’s always gone. Kamui abandoned her. She’s probably spending her days alone in that tiny planet.
In beam saber arc, she probably thought that her second family would be gone too! the way she looked so fucking scared and worried when Gin and Shinpachi have that argument. She probably got a terrible flashback of Kamui and Kankou fighting, her sick mom forcing her weak body to stop the fight, her holding baldy’s leg so he won’t kill Kamui. JUST UGH!!! It’s so heartbreaking I can’t even explain! 😭
I know that the Beam Saber arc, mostly focus on the Shimura’s siblings, specially, Shinpachi’s character development, but goddamn!!!
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The other day I saw someone talk about how Sorachi neglected gintsu after the Love Potion arc so here's my two cents (spoilers ahead):
Short answer: Yesn't
Long answer:
The argument was that Sorachi just dropped the ball on Gintoki and Tsukuyo's relationship that he started writing since… her introduction. And I'm not gonna pretend that LP wasn't the last arc that gave them a ton of development. But I think we've to look at it within the series' context.
Love Potion was the 62th arc of Gintama, spanning chapters 492-496. It was the second to last arc before Shogun Assassination, that began in lesson 502. This meant that it was something Sorachi felt he'd to do before he reached the point of no return. In other words, before the end, he'd to develop the relationship between Gintoki and Tsukuyo and give them some sort of resolution.
Said resolution can be interpreted in two ways. Essentially, something could happen in the future, or nothing would ever happen between them. Nada. But that's not the point of this. OR IS IT??
After that, Sorachi had to address major plot points throughout the next three arcs. Gintoki and Takasugi's fight, the Shogun's death, the Shinsengumi disbanding, Utsuro's rise as the final villain, Kagura and Kamui's showdown, the reunion of the Joui 4...
All of these things were crucial to the plot, but took a long time to unfold. Finally, when Tsukuyo reappeared in Silver Soul arc, a lot of time had passed (lesson 620, over a hundred chapters later). And the first thing Sorachi chooses to do is to have her help Gintoki and make a sex joke. Ok, nothing new in this manga, I guess.
But what was surprising was this one heavy panel that people wouldn't stop talking about at the time, because it really left no room for interpretation. Yes, it was Hinowa who said it, but, again, this was written by someone, and that someone didn't intend this to be a light tease.
Sorachi had no need to do so if he'd already closed the door on future possibilities between them and we already knew she'd feelings for him. And yet, he dedicated several pages to showing the struggle she'd with leaving Yoshiwara to go help Gintoki and the rest of her friends in Kabukicho.
In LP she realized she was in love, but she still felt embarrassed and stupid because of it, and Kyuubei had to tell her hey, it's ok. Throughout the series, although Tsukuyo loves Gintoki, she often needed reasons to be with him. Sometimes it was because of her duty as Yoshiwara's guardian, sometimes because she's with her girl friends, sometimes even Hinowa created these reasons. But this chapter addresses how dumb it is. In LP arc, Gintoki was around just because.
In other words, at this point, Sorachi continued to develop their relationship, even after that arc. But did something else happen?
Well, after a while, when Gintoki was resting peacefully on his futon, Sorachi has Tsukuyo conveniently trip over a damn bottle containing alcohol right next to the guy, all during a dialogue explaining how in times of power outages and such, the population increases. So the joke here was that they would fuck and Gintoki would get her pregnant like heyooo? (ch. 628).
But that would be it? Their last moment being a high-caliber sex joke before the end of the manga?
The thing is... the manga didn't end there lol it lasted about 70 more chapters. Here Sorachi once again needed to address some loose plot ends before finishing the series that took priority, like Gintoki and Takasugi's bond and what would happen with Shouyo/Utsuro.
We might think that there're no loose ends between Gintoki and Tsukuyo anymore. We already know she's in love with him, so why bother?
HOWEVER Sorachi once again decided to hit us with something (and quite sappy this time, in a good way)...
When they meet again, there's a flashback in which Gintoki leaves and Hinowa asks Tsukuyo why she didn't follow him (ch. 686). She replies that she decided to stay because yes, she has a duty, but the main reason was to tell him what had happened in his absence... LITERALLY THERE WAS NO NEED FOR IT TO BE SO CHEESY, but then again Sorachi wanted us to know what Tsukuyo had gone through and he wanted Gintoki to hear it too.
This is another way to show how real and deep her love is and how she understands what Gintoki is going through on a fundamental level. Sorachi wanted to show how Tsukuyo knows that Gintoki needed to embark on his journey alone, otherwise he wouldn't have disbanded the Yorozuya. She knows that it's important to him that someone be there and update him on what has happened, so that he feels connected to everyone again. And Sorachi chose that someone to be Tsukuyo, making explicit how she's an anchor for Gintoki here.
This time it wasn't because she needed a big reason or because she felt stupid, it was her own decision, which is huuuge for her and what could happen.
So now that she knows for sure he's in Edo, she's going to help him with everyone else. There's also the idea of endings and new beginnings that Tsukuyo talks about, which could also apply to her dynamic with Gintoki, but that's a talk for another day.
The last thing to mention is when they're at the terminal and Sacchan teases Tsukuyo about the man she loves... You know, the woman who's been stalking Gintoki since the beginning... And it's really dumb, because everyone is saying these heartfelt lines, talking about how they want to reach him, how they want to help him... and Sorachi, instead of having Sacchan tell a dirty joke about herself, like she always does, has her say something about how Tsukuyo should fuck Gintoki, or vice versa, does it matter at this point? (ch. 699).
And it's not just a sex joke as before. Contrary to the sentiment expressed in lesson 620, here Tsukuyo intends to go on living and see Gintoki again, which is something said by herself.
From what I can tell, Sorachi wanted to keep giving their relationship some form of development right up until the end. Even after committing to an open ending, the fact that he kept their dynamic in mind, even with limited interactions, just to push it forward in some way is honestly kinda sweet, ngl.
Tsukuyo isn't a character Sorachi uses a lot, probably because she's not as available as the rest of the cast living in or near Kabukicho. And yet, almost every time she appears, he develops the bond that Gintoki has with her. You can tell that some scenes, heck, even some lines, are quite deliberate to be read romantically.
If anything, we could say that the real problem was that we didn't get much from Gintoki in the last stretch, which I think could be attributed to both the in-universe context of the series and the time constraints and difficulties Sorachi faced in finishing Gintama.
(Sorry this ended up being so much longer that I intended lol.)
TL;DR: It's not that he forgot, Sorachi just had bigger priorities. In any case, he still threw in scenes JUST to show how he didn't forget and develop their relationship a little more.
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