Wait the book of bill appearing to Ford first is fucking HILARIOUS actually. Ford literally killed Bill less than a month ago, and Bill's still banking so hard on him getting him out of therapy that the book shows up in Ford's stuff MULTIPLE TIMES. Girl the situationship has been over for thirty years give it up π
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And if you came here thinking this is a safe space to rant about unibrows, click away.
You're weird!
What I'm talking about is Molly's acting choices when it comes to Claire's facial expressions. There's been a lot of debate about whether those off looking moments are intentional or not. Personally, I think those are intentional because directors are able to pick out layers and inconsistencies like that.
I'll tell a story of my experience taking an acting for film class:
I had a short scene with my scene partner (who had asked me out outside class) and in the scene he was threatening to kill me and I was really scared of him. But somewhere in that scene I broke in my head and just thought "yeah, right". Just for a split second, I didn't even think I facially cracked or anything.
After the take, the director called me and asked if something was going on between me and the guy. I said no, why? He responded "you do look scared, but you also look like you're turned on by that and we need to take you being scared seriously." I was gobsmacked. I didn't even like the guy like that and that's how that scene came off. Directors notice these things.
So back to Claire. I've commented a number of times that Molly's acting choices as Claire is one of the things that gives an uneasy feeling about her character. There are times when her expressions seem a little too "painted on". And a lot of viewers have wondered if her whole shenanigans with Carmy is supposed to be some sort of subtle parody of cheesy romance flicks, and for good reason. From her almost unnaturally enthusiastic, desperate looking show of interest and affection sometimes, to the here-I-am-I'm-so-love-interest way she's portrayed, just feels off.
First of all, her setup already makes one a bit uneasy. The way she seems to suddenly show up and her presence seems to upset the balance of things. Then, the way she is exalted by the Berzattos to be this wonderful, perfect thing immediately opens her up for suspicion, mostly due to media experience with setups like this. We all know the saying "if it's too good to be true, it probably is". The way everyone keeps constantly harping on her being so great and so nice and so awesome seems a little like a deliberate signal for scrutiny.
So scrutinize we have and scrutinize we will continue to do. I have talked about how her demeanor, the things she says and the way she acts feels very off in this meta and this meta.
Season 4 gave Claire a larger role for better or worse and it's been a wild ride and just as strange if not more. This season her expressions have been quite interesting to observe. I want to collate and break down my observations and interpretations so far by scene in a reverse order of her S4 arc.
I previously talked about her final scene with Carmy which leaves a clear opening for them to resume their relationship and how she seemed to have switched personalities in the two-call scene with Carmy in Green here. One thing the show would do is leave clues and Easter eggs that can help explain the hidden layers of a scene. They do this in this scene by Carmy asking her "Same person, different people?" about the sick kid who threw up on Claire in the same scene where she seemed to have switched 2 different personalities.
Bears is another episode she's heavily featured in. This episode sees her in a festive Berzatto setting weaving her way through the event to show the audience her familiarity with the family and deepen her lore as Carmy's "chosen" one. But one scene that sticks out to me (apart from the other obviously disturbing stuff) , is the scene where Richie and Frank are going on about how Eva talks about the other non stop.
Turns out Richie was lying to Frank but a look crossed her face in that moment (pictured at the header) that could be read as a number of things, but for me it looked like that conversation touched a nerveβ like it was something she was familiar with. Makes me wonder if Carmy did that β talk about Syd a lot while with her? We know that Carmy did the same thing with Syd once which even got a reaction out of her. And Syd has since explained that she found it inappropriate for him to have brought his friend(s) outside of playing video games "into the gameplay and sleepover of it all" ie, Carmy bringing Claire into the restaurant and working menus with her. So did Carmy also talk about Syd an inappropriate amount to Claire? We all know how he's had that back and forth transference forever. If so, that would explain this next scene.
In the episode Sophie, I pointed out how her expression kept changing from a seemingly concerned or friendly look to a different more hostile demeanor towards an unaware Syd in the hospital scene. But why play nice if she has reservations?
Another way I believe the show leaves clues is by using another scene to hint at what is happening in the scene- like Jess telling Richie that Frank is just trying to "get in her [Eva's] good graces for now" by getting her stuff, which comes after Syd runs into Claire. And of course, after this encounter, Syd calls to tell Carmy Claire is great, just like the rest of the Berzattos have. This is a change from Syd who previously had not been very forthcoming when it came to Claire.
Which leads me to the big one. The scene in Scallop where Carmy goes all out and sprints to Claire's like something out of a Disney movie after a perfect day at The Bear.
The first odd but interesting thing about this whole sequence is how this "big moment" is interrupted by some comedy. Instead of Claire, Ted comes out (in a red robe, no less) and he and Carmy have this hilarious back and forth (although I must say I got the comedy of it all on the second watch. On the first watch I was just pissed off that I had to stomach Ted of all people, while already having a bad time. Also, it was Carmy that made this scene actually funny and Jeremy's comedy chops are not to be overlooked). Carmy first thinks Ted is hanging out with Claire and he has to clarify that he's with Kelly, then he has this whole speech about how he loves Kelly now and he's stomach is all f*cked up like he's in a Disney movie with Carmy responding hilariously. One of the aims of this moment is probably to create a faux plot twist that is quickly resolved in a bid to make the scene a little more interesting (because clairmy is boring) but, to me, this interlude feels like a subtle dig on what is happening in that very scene. It's very Disney, it looks grand but it's hard to be taken seriously.
After this, they have their grand argument. I'm not even going to talk about how they try to recreate the alleyway stare from S1. One thing everyone has been asking is what the heck was happening in this scene. It was all over the place for no clear reason. It looked like this big, very needed confrontation but it felt completely lacking in meaning and emotional weight. When Carmy tells her he loves her multiple times, it sounds like he doesn't mean it (either that or Jeremy himself doesn't believe it. And Jeremy is a f*cking great actor who's won multiple times for this role for a very good reason).
But we're focusing on Claire. While Carmy, even while undecipherable, had some variant of a constipated look the whole time, Claire's expressions and her dramatic arc were all over the place. It felt abrupt, inorganic and a bit overly dramatic even though it wasn't really doing much (but of course maybe I'm just biased).
What struck me at first was her reaction to Carmy telling her that he loved her. She was taken aback by the him actually going there but she quickly seemed to reject the notion by her initial reaction. Showing him she doesn't really believe him. But as Carmy goes further in his love confession speech she seemed to almost break a smile. But the timing of that almost smile feels very oddly placed and while it may seem like a delayed reaction to him saying I love you, it also just looks like she's breaking character.
Because her whole schtick feels like some form of performance.
Let's step a little back to the beginning of their scene again.
Claire pictured looking not very emotionally engaged
She comes out while Ted and Kelly try to turn him away and tells them it's ok. He tries to get her to have a talk with him and she gives (very understandable excuses). After the second try he seems actually ready to leave it at that but she quickly changes her mind knowing that and knowing him. She says she has to get something from inside and goes in. On the other side of the door she does this
On a surface level it looks like she's overwhelmed by him just showing up at her door and has to center herself so that she can be neutral and level headed while finally having this really necessary talk with her estranged boyfriend. Makes a lot of sense, right?
But it also looks like one of those little routines an actor will do to quickly get into character. We learned that in acting class. The specific one I liked was; you shake your head and limbs, then stay still, take a deep breath, become nothing, become the character. That sharp head bop? Looks like she just summoned the other Claire.
What further convinces me of this is her next actions when she comes out to meet him. If she was doing all that behind the door to calm herself down and be ready for the conversation, she would at least hear what he has to say before a reaction, right? Well, not this Claire because once she's on the steps before he's even able to say anything, she hits him with the dramatic one eyed tear
That's not the same Claire that went back in to go get something. That Claire couldn't be more detached emotionally. This Claire came out swinging. Even Carmy was a bit taken aback out by the theatrics
She has to further explain to him anyway that this is really hard for her and he better do the right thing. So of course, with the right push he does "the right thing" and they have this whole conversation that is supposed to be intense and emotional but just feels empty and looks ridiculous. The actual subject matter is confusing and even her "scary but also incredible" speech is supposed to be profound but it just leaves him looking stunned and not even in a good way cause he still looks constipated as hell. But it's good enough for her. She looks like she got the reaction or result she wanted. She looks like she's happy with her riveting performance because she suddenly smiles again looking coy and all that. Then she abruptly ends the conversation asking him to find some quiet, or peace (in my opinion she did that because the Faks convinced her she is peace). She doesn't let him say anymore and shuts the door on him. End scene.
While I was thinking about how this entire thing from Claire reads fake to me, I realized that one of the reoccurring motifs of this season has been acting. Actors acting in movies, playing other characters. Richie asking Carmy if his sadness was performative. Richie watching Ridley Scott's interview about planning a scene with actors (which I think is a self insert of Storer trying to say everything is on purpose and he knows what he's doing). This same episode is the one where Michelle is reintroduced to the audience as an actor and Richie also wishes he had become an actor. Syd reveals down the line that her mom was an actor. She sees herself on an acting stage and trying to run away from performance in her dream also. The reference to acting and performance this season is so very strong and I think it's very much on purpose and very layered as in every other motif in any other season.
The theme of performance versus real is spread throughout all the characters this season- because we all have a way we show up that's different from the way we would if we had a choice. We see a different side of everyone. The way Syd shows up to Shapiro is different from how she shows up to Chantel. Carmy this whole time has been hiding the fact that he fell out of love with cooking.
But there's also a question of how well you really know a person. Carmy thought he was Mike's best friend and ended up finding out he didn't know him at all (did anyone catch the flash of anger in Mike's face in that throwback scene?). The fact that Claire and Carmy have known each other forever has been brought up many times as grounds for why they belong together. But does Carmy really know her? And it probably doesn't even matter, but, what might she be hiding or what is it that makes her unable to be who she really is?
*unfortunately this posted before I was ready to post so forgive it's unfinished-ness
canβt stop thinking abt the only time we see carmy wear a The Beef tshirt is when he cooks dinner for claire. you know, the piece of clothing he refused for all of season 1 (when their restaurant was Actually called that) and asked everyone else to switch OUT of (to white shirts and blue aprons).
something something claire fundamentally does not allow carmy to grow as a person + represents carmyβs backsliding into his past something
I love Syd and Iβm so curious about herβ¦ and the one thing Iβve really been thinking of is how she told Carmy that one bad catering event sunk her business (the Hawaiian rolls substitution). It just seemed odd to me that ONE mishap ruined her but then I got to thinkingβ¦ did it ruin her or did she give up? We know Carmy self-sabotages but I think Syd does, too.
She has seen the kitchen absolutely fall apart, has seen Carmy scream and yell, seen the other staff at each other⦠but when does she quit? When she directly causes the meltdown with the preorders. Syd cannot handle her own failures. And instead of sticking around to try to sort out the mess, she runs.
Itβll be interesting to see how that works in the SydCarmy future because Carmy is a βI will go down with this ship regardless of who hit the icebergβ person and Syd is a βI hit the iceberg and Iβm the first on the lifeboatβ person.
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Listen, Claire chased Carmy. Carmy gave her the wrong number on purpose and she still pushed her way into his life. She essentially forced him to accept her which is what has happened to Carmy his entire life. Heβs basically never chosen anything for himselfβ¦ heβs just had people push and poke and prod him into βdecidingβ (not deciding, just doing whatβs expected). He became a top chef to spite his brother. He inherited The Beef. He inherited an entire staff. Nothing was what he chose.
I used to be a hater, but Iβm actually obsessed with the idea of Claire as a literal, physical representation of Carmenβs past that he carries around with him now. Specifically because of S2E5 when theyβre doing introductions and because Carmen brings Claire with him whenever he does do shit during the renovation.
Everyone in the room knew Claire except for Sydney. Natalie knows his past, Richie knows his past, even Fak off screen - he knows Carmenβs past too. When his past introduces itself β wearing a bullet necklace btw thank you to @currymanganese for pointing that out eons ago β Carmen realizes heβs gonna have to acknowledge itβ¦ But he still canβt quite meet Sydneyβs gaze to do that. He introduces Claire to everyone but Sydney, downplaying it like sheβs an old friend and not the past that hunted him down quite literally.
Sydney tries to get him to focus on the present, what theyβre doing in the here and now, but Carmen keeps getting stuck in the past. βNo one eats this shit,β when Donna is making the seven fishes, but when Carmen makes the menu with Claire, thatβs one of the things he includes. They need a liquor beer and wine license, but he rushes it in with Claire, one of a few things Sydney questions that Carmen dismisses. Carmen goes to a party with Claire and tries to rewrite the past and become someone new, but said past then asks him why he tried to escape. βWhy did you give me a fake number?β He brings that past with him to The Bear, the dream he shared with his brother, and we fall directly into my setup here where Carmen tries to pretend the past doesnβt exist while dealing with [checks notes] an energy problem. Not enough energyβ¦ being putβ¦ into The Bear.
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Amazing.
Anyway, this all makes the conversations in S2E8 and S2E9 more damning than they already were. Sydney has been trying to create a space where there was trust, where they could work together, but Carmen wouldnβt play in it. So, when he introduces that past to Marcus and misrepresents it, Sydney gets frustrated. What do you mean, βfriend thatβs a girl?β You couldnβt even introduce Claire to me, so what does that relationship MEAN to you because it canβt be insignificant if youβre building our menu with her.
βI just need your focus like you need mine.β (βI understand.β)
The real nail in the coffin on this metaphor is the fridge and the door handle. His past comes knocking when heβs in the throes of a professional panic attack, angry because the moment he finally wants to live on the present he gets himself locked in the physical representation of his mind. And now Carmen has no means to keep the past at armβs length. Heβs powerless to keep his past from collapsing onto the present.
He said he wanted to start fresh and have honest partners, but he carried the past with him and injected it into everything. He wasnβt honest with himself, the past (Claire), or his partner. He didnβt start fresh.
I am a supporter of the concept, βDisliking media does not equate to bad writing/bad media,β so believe me when I say that I genuinely think it would be bad writing for The Bear writers to have Carmy end up with Claire.
Call me biased because I want him with Syd, but do you expect me to believe that heβd be better off with someone he likens with being set on fire, over his business partner who validates his feelings but does not fail to call him out and defends him fervently? What character development have we seen in Carmy when he was in a relationship with Claire? Everything has literally been three steps back whenever he was with her. The writers cannot be serious nowβ¦
In all honesty, I would rather watch Carmy end up single than be with Claire.
on my first watch of the bear i was lowk an unrequited sydcarmy truther or liker or whatever .. it was probably alr in motion .. sumth like carmy fell first but is taking a whiiiileeee till he actually realizes it and gets to that oh moment . till then he suffers under a strange turmoil without a label. a strange solace from the thought of sydney . no name for it . it is weird. but whatever . it is there . it just is. like sure sydney makes me feel this and that and that i want her to have this and that but. whatever you know. i respect her a lot that's why . typa beat . all until it gets to that oh . till the oh . that's why
sydney would probably not even consider it . too locked in. too oblivious . too avoidant. probably unaware . no thoughts of it whatsoever . Would however probably develop feelings on her own too later than him (hence unrequited for a while) .. but she will not look at it in the eye . she will feel the strange shift but will ignore it . deny it till it does not exist . it's not real if i don't look at it or speak of it or acknowledge or feel it . i don't feel it . whatever that is . anyway . till one day she just completely shatters . breaking like an overflowing aquarium. a growing balloon bursting . a kettle's scream . i imagine it comes at such a mundane event . she gets that strange pang on her chest again and it just clicks and she is now forced to look at it . to acknowledge that, indeed, u felt something just then . ensues a mess of fuck everything fuck my stupid life fuck fuck fuck fuuuuuck instead of an oh moment . she'd hate it so bad. Probably
such a mess. such a mess . the spectrum of realizing u had a crush .. one end experiencing some slow relief and the other completely losing their mind. cinema. cinema
bosses + brother issues + trauma + emotional incapacity to properly display their affections to a coworker of theirs they're technically glued to the hip to everyday yet still feel so out of reach
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If nothing else, you have to give Gooseworx and the Amazing Digital Circus crew credit because they're all very online people and 100% had to know that making a show whose basic premise is "what if a bunch of people who are all fundamentally a bit exhausting to hang out with were forced to hang out with each other at gunpoint" was a fandom discourse bomb waiting to happen, and they did it anyway.
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every once in a while I remember that there are people who came to AO3 from video game fandoms, where they were set up to think "rated E for everyone" - except on AO3 it's