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So, hereβs the thing: I wouldnβt expect someone who never studied ancient Greek language or culture to understand the concept of xenia (ξΡνια). But itβs one of if not the biggest theme of the entire Odyssey. Fundamentally, itβs an epic about what happens when this Greek law and value was broken, when was that expected or justified or necessary versus when that was an atrocity.
And I think the filmβ¦oversimplified and understated the functions and importance of xenia. At best.
Please see below the cut for a very detailed explanation of what the film gets wrong about xenia, what the practice actually was, why it doesnβt work for Nolanβs ultimate thesis to the film, and the role xenia played in the original Odyssey.
βZeusβs Lawβ
Firstly, xenia is called βZeusβs lawβ throughout the movie, which isβ¦perhaps not entirely wrong, but certainly an oversimplification. Itβs true that hospitality and how you treated foreigners and the obligation to welcome them was technically under Zeusβs purview, since as King of the Gods everything was.
Propriety and courtesy and kindness is not what Zeus was known for, however β frankly, if Nolan wanted to credit xenia to an individual divinity in concept, either Hestia (as goddess of hearth and home) or Hermes (as god of travelers and journeys) would be more fitting.
And really, it wasnβt just about one god; just as hubris is about mortals overstepping or thinking themselves equal to anything divine, xenia is at least in part about mortals being courteous to any fellow man in the name of any god that might have put that person on their path. The only reason to call it Zeusβs law is when thinking about divine retribution, which the Odyssey movie intentionally muddies the waters on by erasing the godsβ consistent direct involvement.
Zeusβs role is in setting the standard kings and leaders must follow, yes. But his connection to xenia is more about punishing those who misunderstand it, andβ¦Odysseus doesnβt actually suffer from that. Or rather, he never suffers undeservedly, and he does benefit from it in the end. He underwent his struggles in getting home due to other people violating xenia, but when he does get home? Odysseus benefits from the fact that those who break xenia are punished.
Xenia among Greeks
Now, letβs get into the actual meaning and consequences of xenia. Because it wasnβt actually about threat of divine retribution β it was about cultural mediation and exchange. Something that gets lost in the filmβs treatment of Greek culture as a monolith (it very much wasnβt at the time), and oversimplification of wartime vs. peacetime negotiations.
ξΡνια was a social code relating to how hosts should welcome any visitors to their home, and how guests should act when welcomed. The expectation is that the host provides good food and drink (to the absolute best of their ability β you donβt just feed them, you give them delicious food and your purest wine and nicest clothes and linens and bed). The guest, after enjoying the hostβs hospitality, will reveal their name and identity and lifeβs story and purpose for their journey. And thatβs where it got political.
Crucial to xenia was mutual peacefulness β if someone comes to you as a peaceful traveler, it doesnβt matter that theyβre foreign. You have to treat them courteously. The movie made it seem like the entire reason you had to welcome travelers was in case they were gods in disguise, but thatβs just not true. Implicit threat of offending a god did mean it was considered smart to treat everyone who hadnβt outright wronged you courteously, but the real point was peace between peoples from different lands, especially different Greek city-states. Because once you or anyone in your family line offered or received xenia to/from anyone in that personβs family line? You could not hurt each other. It was forbidden.
Thereβs a whole scene in the Iliad where a Trojan and Greek soldier both exchange lineages before they fight, to make sure theyβre not breaking xenia, and discover one of their dads played host to another. They then go βok, we canβt fight, letβs trade armor as a friendly peaceful gesture, good luck going to war!β Because xenia established outside war had a different standard.
ΞΎΞ΅Ξ½ΞΏΟ means foreigner or stranger. It also means friend and guest. Xenophobia is literally the Greek words for foreigner and fear mashed together, and it wasnβt a good term in their eyes. Because at least among those who would understand and respect your customs, you had to treat the foreigner/stranger as a guest/friend. Thatβs xenophilia, love of strangers, or the act of being a good host.
The point of xenia is that it forges a peace compact. Critically, it only did so among different Greek civilizations β one polis going to war against another was what xenia sought to combat. Enough people traveling would ensure two city-states didnβt and couldnβt raise arms against each other.
The Exception
I do think this is the part people donβt get, because the movie clearly didnβt understand it either β xenia does not apply between people at war.
Yes, the Iliad has a bit with Glaukos and the armor and the peaceful exchange between people who had ancestral xenia. But the reason they canβt fight is because their families had contact during a time of peace.
If your first time meeting someone is while you try to kill them and pillage their land β or rather, if youβre the βhostβ and theyβre trying to kill you and pillage your land and rape your women β you do not owe them xenia, because there is no peaceful compact to be made. Preexisting relationships must be respectedβ¦
β¦but crucially, the entire Trojan War started because Paris, a Trojan Prince, broke xenia after Sparta welcomed him as a guest.
Nolanβs Odyssey makes it seem like perhaps the whole saga is punishing the Greek heroes and Odysseus especially for violating Zeusβs Law/xenia through the Trojan Horse trick. But likeβ¦they didnβt? The Greeks didnβt come to Troy in good faith as guests, they came as armed conquers determined to see Ilion burn. And the concept of soldiers disguising themselves as civilians (or hiding inside a horse) being likeβ¦a war crime or violation of ethics? Was not a thing by Greek standards.
Very notably, one of the (cut) scenes with Helen in the Telemachy sees her recount how she helped Odysseus when he snuck into Troy before the horse trick β she helped him disguise himself as a local/refugee and gather intel before sneaking back to the Greek ships. And thatβs never treated as morally questionable β helping Odysseus sneak around and deceive the Trojans is unambiguously a good thing that Helen did, in fact.
TL:DR, the point is β people trying to burn your city do not count as guests, conquerers do not think of the people they plan to rob rape and kill as hosts. Xenia does not apply to people at war, and the idea Odysseus should feel guilt for his trick with the horse because it was a violation of βZeusβs lawβ is laughable. The Greeks wouldnβt have cared! Thatβs not ever a source of angst or guilt in the source text, despite xenia being such a central theme.
Utility of xenia in the Odyssey
The biggest purpose of xenia was that observing it ensured peace. Neither guest nor host poisons or hurts anyone else, not directly or by proxy through hurting their family and friends. When the guest leaves, in exchange for their story, the host also should them off with valuables, ideally gold. Xenia was a way to encourage non-violent contact between different people, and stimulate exchange of information and valuables between different settlements.
Notably, where xenia is practiced, the standard for violating it is high. There are many myths about people who did things that were weird or unpleasant but not an outright violation, and therefore had to still be treated with courtesy and respect as guests.
The reason Penelope and Telemachus canβt kick the suitors out isnβt because sheβs a helpless woman and heβs a helpless child β their political positions are shaky, yes, but thatβs not the core issue. Rather, itβs because while the suitors have been rude, and wildly overstayed their welcome, they havenβt actually broken xenia. Eating and drinking their food and wine for years instead of days, being mean to the slaves, having the bard tell stories that hurt Penelopeβs feelings, all of that is bad but not transgressions worthy of breaking xenia over. Legally, Telemachcus and Penelope have to let these assholes stay and treat them courteously, because the suitors are abusing the spirit of the law but not violating the letter of it.
The suitors donβt actually break xenia until their attempt to kill Telemachus, and then when they try to refuse to welcome a poor traveller who should be entitled to all the same luxuries theyβve taken.
Thatβs a huge part of the motive for Odysseusβs disguise. He shows up as a beggar dressed in disgusting rags because he knows these immature assholes will abuse him over it, and he knows that once they do he can legally kill them and get away with it in the eyes of the gods. Thatβs the point of the first feasts and the challenge and almost everything Odysseus does upon arrival to Ithaca.
Fully half of the Odyssey is Odysseus already having returned home, but acting like a guest, so he can see who respects xenia (and is therefore loyal to him) vs. who breaks xenia (and is therefore deserving of death). And Odysseus actively works to slot the suitors and many of his own slaves into the latter category, so he can kill them and know that heβs not breaking custom, that he isnβt incurring further divine wrath. And Athena helps him do it, so he can get his glorious revenge. Thatβsβ¦pointed.
Conclusion
Odysseusβ attempts to exploit xenia for his own gain β implicitly in Books 5-12 and more explicitly and maliciously in Books 13-22 β are missing in the film adaptation. I think thatβs in part because Christopher Nolanβ¦isnβt interested in that side of Odysseus. He wanted the story of a tough tortured war hero finally returning home and repenting for his wrongs at war. He didnβt like or focus on Odysseus the witty schemer, the master of tricks and lies. And Nolan certainly didnβt want Odysseusβ return home to center on a blatantly bitter and violent, arguably unnecessary revenge ploy, as it did in the epic poem.
But the fact of the matter is that the last half of the original poem is Odysseus struggling to find an excuse to break xenia. He doesnβt want to send the suitors peacefully home β which he at least nominally could. Thereβs a threat that they physically overpower him, but that requires the suitors to openly break xenia. Which thus far those who did by conspiring to kill Telemachus have done only in discreet ways, and many have not done at all.
Like, crucially, the original epic poem does introduce suitors who were more decent in their conduct, even if they did still eat Odysseusβ food and try to court his wife. Theyβre not all evil people who have to be killed for his own safety. Some would just fucking leave if they knew the king was in fact alive. Some would accept that since Odysseus is back to be King again, the Ithacan suitors should return to their houses and the foreign suitors return to their city-states. Some of them would respect xenia and make up for their wrongdoing. Thereβs a dichotomy when the suitors die β some, like Antinous, go down fighting and cursing Odysseus and Telemachus, but others try to apologize. They promise to repay the guest-gifts and food and charity they abused and respect xenia and go in peace. Odysseus tells them βnope, too late, die.β
I get why instead of the brutal slaughter of many men who beg for mercy, Nolan frames the final battle against the suitors as a desperate, almost losing struggle for Odysseus. But in the epic poemβ¦itβs just him taking advantage of the fact he finally tricked them all into really breaking xenia, and taking revenge.
The entire epic poem was about xenia β not in the context of war, either.
The Telemachy is the first four books of the Odyssey, focused on how Odysseusβs son sees xenia exploited in his own home, but benefits from it immensely when welcomed as a guest in someone elseβs.
The Apologoi or Wanderings are books 5-12 (Calypso, the Phaeacians, Aeolus, Polyphemus, the Lotus-Eaters, the Lasteygones, Circe, and the Underworld) and see Odysseus arrive at foreign islands where he tries to exert xenia over and over again. He meets good foreigners who do exactly as they should, dangerous foreigners who instead respond with sinister temptation or outright violence, and people who arenβt foreigners at all but divinities, and therefore arenβt bound to mortal customs like xenia.
The Mnesterophonia or Murder of the Suitors is Books 13-24 β fully half of the Odyssey is Odysseus having already reached Ithaca, but now using xenia both to test peopleβs loyalty and morals, and to contrive an excuse to kill them if they fail to uphold the custom.
Given all thatβ¦I think Christopher Nolan owed it to the Odyssey to learn the true meaning of xenia, and to at least try to depict it with the nuance it deserves.
ohhh my god I just fact-checked, Nolan actually DID cut the "Nobody" scene from his Odyssey movie. Mfer that is like cutting the Father reveal from Star Wars. Let me speak in a language you understand this is like not dressing Batman up in his suit. "It was not possible to work it in" the TikTok musical with a budget of $4 and a scratched Hamilton CD managed to work it in in SONG form, step up your FUCKING GAME
As someone who has written academic papers about the role of disguise and deceit in the Odyssey β Nobody is so damn important.
Prior to this point, when Odysseus tries to exercise Xenia (ancient Greek guest rites/hospitality code), he did what he was supposed to do. (Well, we think so anyway β notably, the most famous books of the Odyssey are told by Odysseus, who isnβt exactly a reliable narrator.)
But when Polyphemus kills and eats some of the men, the game changes. The Cyclops makes it clear he has no intention of abiding by Zeusβs laws, and will cannibalize the lot of the men. So, Odysseus responds in kind β he breaks Xenia and lies. He introduces himself under a false name as part of a trick. Polyphemus then breaks Xenia again β he tells Nobody heβll be eaten last, and that is the Cyclopsβ guest gift to him.
Odysseusβ transgression is clearly the lesser one. The Nobody trick works. It gets Odysseus and most of his crew out of the cave alive.
But, crucially, before leaving Odysseus sheds his disguise. He admits his true identity, in detail, so he can boast of his achievements and add vanquishing a Cyclops to the list. And it bites him in the ass spectacularly.
The only reason why Polyphemus can curse Odysseus, can bid his father Poseidon to curse the man who blinded him, is because he now knows who did it. If Odysseus had kept his mouth shut, he might have safely made it home from there. But while a big part of why the Nobody disguise vs. real name reveal is showing Odysseusβs hubris, itβs not just about that. Itβs also about the start of a pattern that hurts him more than it helps him.
From this point in the Odyssey on, Odysseus lies about his identity constantly. And sometimes it protects him, but more often itβs a detriment or at least unnecessary. Heβs lying about his identity primarily to people who are on his side β a kindly loyal swineherd, his son, his faithful wife, his ailing father.
The last one is especially damning, because happens when Odysseus has already killed the suitors and returned home and reunited with the rest of his family sans disguises. He knows from everyone else that Laertes never betrayed him or his legacy, but was mourning his son and heartbroken for almost a decade. Odysseus has publicly declared his return to everyone else β his father doesnβt know because heβs living in squalor remotely. But Odysseus doesnβt tell his father who he is. He makes up a fake identity and tells a story implying Laertesβ son is dead. And when Laertes bursts out crying, then Odysseus drops the charade and finally admits who he really was.
There was no utility to that lie. No loyalty to test. No hidden threats to worry about. But Odysseus still instinctively lies to his beloved father about who he is, only dropping the charade when he sees the damage itβs doing to his relationships.
Because at this point, lying is pathological for Odysseus. He canβt seem to stop doing it. Because with Polyphemus, a lie protected him and the truth hurt him. That is the point of the β Nobodyβ disguise.
β The confrontation in utrh is Jason trying to find proof that Bruce loves him.
β The confrontation in utrh is Jason trying to find proof that Bruce loves him, because ever since he came back from the dead, he's only seen proofs (plural) that Bruce doesn't love him. The Joker is still alive. Batman has a new Robin. The first thing Bruce said to him when he came back is "Thinking what we do is a game is what got Robin killed." (The first thing Bruce said after Jason removed the bandages and revealed that he's "Jason" in Hush. Bruce didn't know that he was the real Jason. Still, that's what Jason first heard from him.)
β¬οΈ His reaction when he: (1) Knew that Joker is still alive (2) Knew about the new Robin, Tim Drake (3) Heard Bruce's victim blaming sentence (4) Heard Bruce said that be just can't
For someone who stated to be "angry when he came back," his reactions is a lot of crying. Angry crier Jason my beloved.
"Jason was angry when he came back" I wouldn't even deny that, because he was, and who WOULDN'T be pissed about that hello. But can we NOT sum up all of his feelings and emotions and reactions since he came back collect into a ball and call it "angry." He was feeling hurt, betrayed, dissapointed, deppressed etc. Look at him just crying out his eye balls. Look at him when he found out about Tim Drake. I heard Bruce or Dick very much sum up his reactions when he came back to "he was angry because Bruce didn't avenge him." Can we not. Average dc treatment for Jason Todd. "He is angry" and that's all we need to know, let's just put aside all of his legitimate reasons for being angry and any other emotions.
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In this issue, Batman is contacted by a secret agency to help find a human bomb that was contained within the agency and which, with the help of an agent, managed to escape and plans to blow up Gotham.
Throughout the time Batman spends with Officer Kelly, the officer calls the human bomb names like freak, creature, and even devil. Batman ignores him and refuses to participate in the dehumanization.
The search becomes much easier after small, contained explosions begin to occur near Batman, guiding him. Batman follows them.
The agreement with Kelly was that he wouldn't try to fight the human bomb or disarm it, but only find them and call Kelly's men to deal with it. But at this point, Batman is very suspicious of Kelly and disobeys him.
Batman finally finds them, strapped and contained in a protective suit and connected to machines. They tell Batman that they were expecting him, that they had heard stories about him, and that he seems much less frightening and softer than they had thought.
He find out that the human bomb is an innocent eighteen-year-old woman named Rebecca, kidnapped and held prisoner by the army to study her metagene to potentially create weapons. They manage to escape together from the army.
They watch the sunset and Rebecca tells him her story, she tells that she will eventually need to return to the base, she's too dangerous to be free.
Batman begins making promises that he will make a deal with the agency, that they will no longer treat her as if she were subhuman, that they will have to let her go out when she feels like it.
Batman fights again against some agents who were looking for them, wanting to take her back. Batman tells them that he is allowing her at least one full day of freedom, but one of the agents explains that without the machines that were connected to her at the base, Rebecca cannot survive.
Batman then returns to where he and Rebecca were and begs her to go back to the base, saying that she won't have much time left alive there. But Rebecca knew all of this and had already made her choice.
Bad Jaybin Comic: Im so MAD π‘π‘ at the WORLD π and CRIMINALS therefore im going to PUNCH THIS MAN REALLY HARD!! π‘ Bruce cant Save Me with his wealthy because I am #ontologicallyevil. I should stay dead
Good Jaybin Comic: If I don't get attention in .5 seconds I'm going to do hijinks Bruce can't even think up. While being extremely 12 years old.
Bad red hood comic: im the angry failed robin and im super angry all the time. π‘π‘π‘ have I mentioned my favorite brother tim and how bruce is right and i should stop killing people
Good red hood comic: I spent four months planning and enacting a scheme to ruin bruce's life because he systemically failed gotham and left my death unavenged. Also I killed a nazi and blew up black mask with a bazooka lmao π
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bad jason comic: i feel NOTHING but rage, i have to kill EVERY wrongdoer like that guy who just jaywalked, maybe next ill announce again how i got myself KILLED and how EVERYTHING since has been entirely absolutely 100% my fault
good jason comic: this wasnt the original plan but itd be really funny if this worked anyways yall wanna see me do a flip