we know the axolotl granted Bill therapy before he is sent to be reincarnated in a different time and different form.

In episode 1, we see the Axolotl watching Stanley/bill new form.. After season final where we hear their name from bill requesting to be saved.

Later he does not come back. But we get waddles in the time episode with blendin-see other post for blendin... But here is where it gets suspicious, waddles Speaks mabel name to her. But waddles would not have heard her name unless he was secretly watching the pines family.. or a certain someone bill/stanley.. because even with therapy the axolotl would still need to watch how bill is doing in his new form/reincarnation, As the Axolotl is stated to be bill friend.

As we See both Bill and Stanley are shown to be impressed with mabel weirdness, soft spot for her.. when bill grabbed the kids and landed on mabel name, he dragged out the "yooouuu" while his hand shook in stress showing his bluff.

Bill is shown to lie/manipulate his targets to get what he wants, same with Stanley conning everyone and lieing. Some traits and personality just never go away lol.

Through out the show Stanley is shown warry about waddles.. does not want waddles near him and gets disturbed.. and calls him a fat naked jerk. Hint bill/Stanley still mad about therapy.

So could be bill/Stanley newer form is aware, but plays dumb as only these two are aware of each other.. And Stanley/Bill can't shoo him away because Mabel brought him. Why stanley is shown trying to avoid Waddles when ever he can. As therapy wasn't enough.

Noticed Stanley puts waddles outside when mabel ask him to watch waddles... and he place the doller Bill... on waddles...(hint to his past self-bill) Like saying thx, and please leave.

Also note stanley doing the triangle eye(bill) when he trying to lie to mabel later, After waddles got taken.

Tbh i think Stanley was more disturbed for the pterodactyl then then waddles.. If waddles is secretly the Axololt in other form just like Stanley is hinted to be bill reincarnation.. As waddles was not eaten.. The judgement stare Waddles silently gives Stanley through out the episode lol...Because he lied to mabel, and waiting for Stanley to correct his mistake. Which Stanley does end up doing later. Though there is common clue between a pig and axolotl.

One of Stanley annoyed comments to the waddles, Who goes rolling in the mud after falling down from the pterodactyl.

"Yeah you would injoy this" with waddles injoying the mud.. Oh coincidence? Because Axoltls can live in mud in the wild, burrowing into it for protection and foraging. tbh waddles being the axolotl in other form is low key hilarious while both forms like the mud.

Also note the judgement stare from waddles? Waddles ran to stanley before they fell.. and even glance back at Stanley/bill waiting.

Therapy did go well for bill, or he wouldn't be hinted to come back as Stanley later, as parallels between bill and stanley are strong..

For why Stanley later tells his past self, "Surprised you didn't recognize it." because it's bill's own mind to... Explaining why Stanley already had control of his mind when his past self entered it early on.

Also final clue why think waddles might be the Axolotl.

After Stanley loose his memories... It was waddle touch. That restored Stanley mind... Bill asking the Axolotl to save him!

"quit it waddles, I'm am trying to remember"

Waddles mystery so far

Knew mabel name before ever meeting her, could speak her name.

Guided the lady back home, knew where she lived. because later the lady was impressed with waddles/while he was in soos body. The Axolotl in gravity falls is consider a god.

Episode together with Stanley, hinted he was checking up on stanley/bill progress, not betraying family trust.

Restores Stanley/bill mind final episode. loop/cycle from when bill called for help.. Though the question is will this this loop ever be broken later? If Stanley shakes his older body hand at old age/near death. Making his conscious/soul transfer back to his original body he left behind. Bill was shown to shapeshift. So could take back his human form while avoiding death.

Also side note to stanley eyepatch, with the book of bill.

beside the bills in stanley hands/ 1 eye symbolism to his past self.

see the cracks over bill 1 eye.... reminds me of the eyepatch across his face..

Stanford machine looks further to the left with stanley and the table cloth is brown instead of blue.. coloring mistake?

Also other thing that bothers me, These screws where not screwed in tight...I don't see Stanford being carless about that..

The force of Stanley smacking the table shouldn't have made the screws pop out so easy.. implying someone else might have tempered with Stanford machine before Stanley arrived, and he got the full blame.

Also stanley put the screws back in and close's the panel. yet when stanford uncovers his project it's already loose... showing someone off screen came back and took the panel off. because Stanley is seen moving away from the table and never hits it again when he makes his exit, so he didn't knock the screws and panel out again..

I know Blendin vanished after the time baby was killed.. Could he have investigated through the time baby death afterwards who bill is(trying to take him out)- which leads to Stanley/reincarnation eventually? or blendin contacted someone for help!?

Could this mean it might have been Blendin!? There also the screw driver Soos found when he was a kid.. Not sure if Blendin took it back.

But Blendin clue, he aware of Bill/Stanley.. when go back and check Stanley childhood area.

Can see the message "Blendin was here" on the boards... Also Stanley punching the boards in a upside down triangle...More hint he is bill reincarnation. Bill comment the universe is upside down...

Also if Stanley is bill reincarnation which I think is possible, If they are paralleling each other.. Then could this mean someone else caused the accident to bill home world, which destroyed it. and he accepted the blame.. just like his newer reincarnation Stanley thinking it was his fault. (since both had strange parallels to each other-and hinted to be each other. And the axolotl granted bill request to come back in a other form-book confirms he got sent to therapy before he is to be reincarnated. And he can still come back in the past after therapy as Stanley. Since the axolotl states bill can come back in a different time- meaning Stanley pines hints.

So if the machine was indeed tempered with by Blendin. Bill mentions in the books he can't remember fully what happens and blacks out. but he thinks everyone ok... Could hint Blendin investigated where bill originates or got someone help-Since blendin is shown to take revenge...So he could went to other time baby alive/parallel world.

Why his focus is more on bill/stanley(newer reincarnation) watching.

Also this sounds like bill accidently did something and takes the blame, but it might been someone else tempering with bill home world which set it off to be destroyed. Or they managed to control bill powers, why he blacked out. Almost like he got possessed.

They mention the eye doctor, to take bills sight of the 3rd dimension. And bill actually warned stanford about it, though Stanford took it as bill sending someone to come to take his eyes. Bill dark sense of humor and remembering his past.

Maybe the eye doctor was similar to the blind eye cult. Since both are implied to wipe the memory.

????

That kissy experiment number. While In Huggy memories when it flashes fast, The scientist calls him experiment 1172? emphasis on the 2 at the end. A error or...

it looks intentional clue!? (trying to figure this out, the 2 was emphasized in the memory at the end..)

For example, the 1995 year date where they talk about rich. And the books confirm they record over the vhs tapes/temper with the true year date.... As seen in kissy missy video that her video is a copy of the the original security tape. So we won't see the true year date because of this.

So back to 1995 tape for rich. (if not the kid getting promoted)

This clue us the tape could have been much older, and re edit later/re recorded over the original to make rich look still alive in 1995 because.. It would line up with 1991 with the talk about promotion. And sending Stuart to promote rich in order... After Lieth and Eddie talk.

Also a other red flag Rich voice is heard as one of the prototype hunters in the hour of joy in sisters vhs (huggy speaking)... soo that points to 1995 being tempered/re record video wiping the original timeline year date if it's re recorded later in 1995.

In the 1995 they say head of shipping for rich, but if noticed from the notes..

Rich calls himself head of shipping, yet he not because he still demoted in the notes.. So rich was still giving himself the head of shipping title even though he was not in charge at the time. Fits in character because he was calling everyone to stupid to do there job! lol

So lieth and eddie are aware of their head of shipping, currently demoted... mockery to rich self title.. and plan to make rich disappear/look bad.

Avery also mentions the 90's here in the note.. so rich was still demoted this time frame.. while he calls himself head of shipping.

To me this makes more sense with the video/re record clue. So Lieth Pierre and Eddie talk was before the 1990's then the original video is wiped/erasing the original year date, as they re record it again. with more edits....

story flow makes more sense when put it like this.

Lieth pierre and eddie talk about promoting rich there head of shipping(problem employee because of how outspoken he is) , then they send Stuart to promote rich.

Narratively this is the correct time line clue imo, it felt off because rich was already promoted.. but with the temper/re record date throwing many people off to the correct timeline-sequence order.. I think this is what happened.

Rich head of shipping, his self title.. fitting he repaired himself with duct tape and ropes-tools used in shipping... Huggy and rich are linked from the start of chapter 1, lore wise with rich/huggy.. It was that stupid year date edit re-record clue. Rich called huggy a stupid toy.. ah karma lol.

Also Rich is not a stupid person, he played dead here. They said darth vader for huggy.. so was wondering if he talk..and sister tape clue us he can... if darth vader clue is for huggy, Then that means he was seen as a father figure to someone.. possible the kid who the player. and why the kid has regret about huggy/rich..

Also From chapter 1-2-3-4- we been getting lore about rich, being a good guy, but also him having a very bad extreme angry temper... yeah huggy was very pissed/bad temper after we made him fall. Rich/huggy smashing things in anger...

He took it so personal, love him but holy hell... he been chasing us this entire time... lmaaaaooo

I have been waiting to see rich help us...

Finally looks like rich will join our side, because as rich stated

"My wife says i'm a lovely man, but i got control my temper for her"

It's finally time now for rich to help us... patty calmed down rich from killing us.. and prototype stabbed his wife infront of him... Prototype has unleashed a bigger monster, and not one that got demoted twice again by falling off the ledge because of us.. lol

Rich and patty(wife clue) is matching up to huggy/kissy lore.. game basically hinting it to us... everyone sleeping on stupid sibling theory, while huggy/kissy canon are a couple.. gawd you guys are making it weird. 😭 and also killing merch of the romantic two. Rich and patty being hinted as huggy/kissy and also married in game clue.. at least the romance is real like there toy versions!!!

Also for the 2, emphasized at huggy/rich memories... showing there something not revealed...

maybe this clue us

Btw he escaped through the shipping area/knowledge of his work place, Our self proclaimed head of shipping rich still proving everyone who works here are idiots who don't know what there doing.

He went to search for his wife, he heard patty his wife name with the memory clue when the scientist says 1172, and possible her experiment number mention together in the memories.. Why he stands menacingly letting himself get captured after he escaped and murder everyone in rage after hearing them say patty name. Why he stood still.. because patty was not home...

already explained patty in a other post. as even they try to hide patty marriage hint a year later by calling her patty hall, instead of patty lovitz.. just like the above tape-re record tempered with clue..

Also maybe we will get a prequel of poppy playtime, but with us playing as Rich in prequel dlc? Rich notes mention he is aware of the murders/missing people.. he mentions to keep your head low/not draw attention to yourself, he turned his head low/not to draw attention as huggy detail after he got stabbed.. Not to let the prototype know he still alive..

But prequel of rich would be good, and we get to see the real dates/and rich eventually becoming huggy. Also Elliot ludwig was still alive around the time rich demotion to promotion, 1985-1989

I wonder, if Rich knew what type of person Elliot was.

Wanna talk about patty hall, and riley and the discard bigger bodies of kissy found in the toy graveyard.. chapter 4.

The bigger bodies of kissy missy found in the trash area near riley, clues us those where not the final versions of kissy missy. So it confirms there was more bigger bodies of kissy before. Riley looks to be smaller version of the kissy missy, though she dies to.. As her journal last message from her shows us riley hid the key with her ,which is found in her corpse later.

Patty hall on the other hand is hinted to be the adult worker/kissy missy who survives after being turned into a toy.

In game lore we get documents that state Patty hall was sent to storage B 1991

And it's confirmed years later kissy missy is retrieved from the same storage B in 1995. The one we see in the tapes..

Also she was put in the shelf, hint to patty punishment for being disobedient after she was turned into kissy for miss coloring the toys. The shelf clue hints they where retraining her to listen/obey/listen to commands. She was not allowed to move on her own, unless commended.. even the tapes clue us with her patiently waiting in obedience..

Also they would not kill off there toy designer, which is important clue. that she might be the one who created huggy and kissy designs... And they also turned her into the recolor/female version of huggy. Kissy missy.. her own toy she designed!

Patty hall is linked with sabotaging the paints, when you go to the room to recolor the hand/can hear the same theme to kissy missy introduction later.. not coincidence that a room with paints has the same mystery tune as patty/kissy lore hint.

Also Patty hall was more passive even when she protested, she didn't harm anyone and only miss colored the toys in protest! Clue that was trying to find her husband Rich. As confirmed in game Rich had heart note for patty, and He mentions wife..

Also important for more evidence to kissy being patty beside above mention clues.. The cardboard cutout of kissy spells her name "Patty" in a slowed down version. Patty name is heard..

F---fffooooorrr---P----aaaa----ttty can hear in the slowed/broken voice. Patty

same tear mark, on patty hall documents and kissy.. 3 hints so far that it's her.

Like this game was supposed to end chapter 5, and most of the in game clues tells us she patty hall, btw should be patty lovitz from rich comment hint... but documents don't show lovitz as her last name..showing playco tempers with the vhs tapes, documents

In the books they mention they re record over the original tapes, so this means we are not getting the correct year dates clue! because a newer version was recorded over the original! tempering with the dates and editing footage out they don't want seen.

Chapter 5 confirmed the prototype was hunting huggy, wanting him dead....yet huggy before chapter 3 was loyal to him..

When huggy sees kissy it's like he and kissy are having a argument why she still down here instead of up where it's safer for her..

Then the big clue

She reaches for his missing arm.. and he backs off like he telling her he fine..

He lost his arm defending her from the prototype!! Kissy showing thanks, and also relieved he still ok after he chased the prototype off her.

was curious, so sped it up, reversed his growl sounds..

"Leave me, Go"

"loose my self...???" or he can't control his anger.....

"leave my home"

what do you hear?

chapter 4 confirms they make up stories/document to cover up for the missing people as they are alive.

gonna point out obvious red flag here how butchered the timeline is from playco intentionally sabotaging the timeline in some of the documents year dates. so if you trust the document from people who admitted to faking a missing person as alive, or would you trust clues left from the previous people alive before the vanished in game?

1991 patty sent to storage B-- kissy missy

Did you notice?? 2 red flags here.

1985-1989 note from rich to patty time frame below, when he got demoted time frame!

Rich sos to patty, this was decoded as saying "please help me" to patty by user on reddit.

So this line up with patty sabotaging the toy colors looking for rich clue in the 1985-1989 which is much early then 1991's, there also one more detail save for below that shows how faked the document is in patty document for example.

Here is a other big red flag!!!

1990 this tape about promotion.

Noticed anything off?

Rich says wife-- but look at the documents from patty getting punished in 1991..

IT SAYS PATTY HALL

Not Patty Lovitz!!! in the 1991 punishment

Rich is not the guy who goes around cheating on his wife....

I am gonna trust rich and patty over the admitted fake documents/year dates that been admitted into this game. the butchered time frame above with the document proves this, they also tried to cover up rich and patty being married!!

I think the intentional clue of year/dates from playco faking documents for the missing workers was the missing clue to the players!

also more shady stuff concerning rich/timeline.

1985-1989 he goes missing, since patty sabotages the paint toy colors from the note clue from rich after much early, when rich got demoted time frame. the promotion tape that says 1990 looks like the year has been tempered with because rich says wife yet 1991 shows patty with her last name and not Rich last name! and the kid tape i am betting much early then 1991.

Also since patty sabotage the paint on the toys, i have noticed beside her being linked to kissy, the room where you go to create the green hand/paint has the same music as kissy introduction later, beside carboard cut out spelling her name patty.

Also patty being the toy designer, means she would created huggy and kissy toy design earlier... She is important to the story, just like Rich who her husband hint. Them turning her into one of her popular toys design and also her husband.

in chapter 5 sister vhs tape you can hear rich voice, iconic voice to rich. so he been turned to huggy/clue much early then what the dates are telling us.

Like lore wise huggy/kissy line up to rich/patty as explained.

It's only some of the staged year/date that throwing this theory under.. but as pointed above at the not adding up clue in the year date with patty hall and rich clue... yeah this has been going on much longer...

!????????? oh my god...!!! RICH!???? It's the same gruff voice as Rich!!??

He was holding out on speaking!!! to us!??? oh ffs!

welp looks like this confirms rich is turned into huggy if that is his voice which sounds like rich, and turned into a toy.. Since this seems older with kissy and poppy running from the prototpe in the hour of joy.. huggy acted as the prototype security and hunter.... and oh look rich voice in the off screen toy not seen looking for poppy and kissy..

yeah great timeline/headache 👍 everyone believing the 1995 tapes as rich lovitz, though it only said mr. lovitz!! So the kid clue, and huggy darth vader clue.. Rich last audio voice was heard in 1991-huggy escapes 1992.

So this confirms to me that 1995 was not rich lovitz, but confirms to be the kid!! With his last name getting promoted... no need to get double promotion if that was rich, which looks not to be the case anymore.

Yeah no wonder Huggy/rich spies when he hears his voice when we play his vhs tape not enough both huggy/rich introduced chapter 1 and have lore linked to each other!! Anyways already explained huggy=rich theory, can check my other post.

Also if listen to the rich 1991 tapes with the kid, he was singing/humming the same tune in the Chapter 5 - VHS Tape #1 "Experiment 1170: Executive Showcase"

The same tune rich hums as the huggy tape/background music..

looks like this is before poppy put in the case, and later kissy calms down when she with huggy.. since she fine after as she helped us..

So clue rich calmed down patty (wife clue) after poppy put in the case, Kissy did start crying after she heard rich voice in above clue. because she patty/wife of rich.. no wonder she was upset..

Looks like he can talk when he tries!? Also looks like kissy has trouble speaking...Maybe why rich signal in screams for her and does not talk.. to make her feel better. ❤️

Patty hinted to have F in her grades early childhood as a orphan while growing up as adult (cardboard clue says f for patty), so hint she more slower to learn, while Rich is very outspoken about how smart he is/he shown us... He is a total sweetheart for sticking up for patty!! This would fit Rich character with the growling/scream signal for patty.. since she unable to speak. and she shown very insecure about it.

Since that is rich voice heard in the tape, shows he managed to speak, they where not kidding when they said he very intelliegent, while he leads the other hunters searching for poppy.

small update: btw if did not know, saw comment that this was decoded as saying "please help me" from rich to patty, beside his wife clue. which would explain patty sabotaging the paint colors for the toys trying to help rich/find him.. from narrative it points to rich and patty linked with huggy/kissy though some of the timeline is still messy unlss some of it staged, from the clue chapter 4 about workers making it seem the missing are still alive. also patty should have the last name lovitz in the 1991 report punishment but it still says patty hall.. so proof the company covering up rich and patty marriage clue. or she would been named patty lovitz. This shows tempering with the timeframe dates. meaning she had rich last name lovitz before 1990's.

Who's the stupid one, Lieth pierre or Rich who took it personally.

Rich is shown to be the handy man/knowledge of how the entire place works, even knows the full map/layout out with the shipping area..Rich always mock the entire company as idiots who can't do their job.. showing Rich has higher level intelligence..

Rich/huggy lore makes more sense since they are introduced the same chapter together... with how this guy has solo/survived.. and also made lieth pierre the head of security look like a total moron. When Rich used his knowledge of the shipping/vent area and escaped. He also killed security out of revenge that was after him. Rich is shown to pride himself on being smarter then the idiots running the company.

He also fooking repaired himself with duct tape and ropes.. His shipping experience when he was human/rich. someone need to over lay rich angry voice over huggy... it perfect match.. i can't..

Huggy/Rich same anger screaming/hitting objects outlash.. Knowledge of the layout/mechanics. Huggy surviving this long shows he rich based of the previous clue mention before.

1995 tape, it's the kid... they did say darth vader for huggy... damn poor player being chased by there angry father figure who does not recognize him.. to bad for rich.. rich taught his adoptive son to be smarter and survive.

seen the player is rich theory, or this toy who side character will be rich.

Huggy screaming "I"ll *****$%% Kill you"*growl screaming in rage*

breaks and hits stuff trying to get to us.. navigates through shipping/company like a pro. Same behavior as rich, and now even more dangerous because leith made him into immortal toy..(if he survives) wouldn't be surprised if rich killed lieth pierre in the hour of joy..

The player=rich feels like self insert, when the player has never shown any unholy rage like rich/huggy (only toy that matches rich)

already explained rich wife previous patty/kissy to calm him down.

He got cheap shotted because he let his guard down around his wife patty.

1995 tape, for Mr. lovitz must be the kid rich adopted, explains the darth vader comment about huggy.

Also if listen to the Chapter 5 - VHS Tape #1 "Experiment 1170: Executive Showcase" music background. It's the same tune that rich was humming in 1991 tape with the kid..

So music/hint Rich with huggy.

Rich lovitz was already promoted by stuart. Chapter 1 revealed Rich name, 1995 tape says lovitz is getting promoted but now does not include rich name.... do you see the problem here?

Lieth and eddie are talking about promoting someone who was not promoted. like rich is still low worker?? and there note from avery previous praising rich for his promotion from stuart in the 1990's...

To me this points to the kid, taking on Lovitz last name. And him taking Rich Advice to be smarter when handling things.. The kid is taking Rich advice and being seen as a hero by the other workers..

Lieth pierre does not like this, and also hints he can make mr. lovitz disappear as not the first time(rich) and explains why Lieth pierre more fixated on Huggy(rich) because he was very loud and outspoken against the company as idiots. Lieth made sure to break rich in as security...

Year date tapes for Rich

Security Camera: Rich + Avery Huggy toys are introduced. Nobody in this stupid company knows what they're doing. I swear, I haven't seen a single box in its place since they started flooding the storehouse with orphanage junk.

1984 or after

demoted Security Camera: Rich

1984 or after

promoted Stuart & Rich 1990 or after

Management: Rich with the kid

Rich gives the same similar speech to the kid like Stuart did for him.. sound like Rich was about to retire and pass the mantle to the kid/he might adopted.

1991 or after

The 1995 tape with lieth pirre and eddie planning to ruin the kid image.. After he takes on Rich last name.. like they had no problem revealing Rich name chapter 1, then they tip toe on chapter 5 and only say the last name? instead of the full name? like it's not hard.. unless there trying to miss lead the readers...

Around the time the huggy toys are made. Rich is reported.. Someone in security over heard Rich mocking the company.. so news gets to Lieth pierre... who later makes him vanish after talking to the kid...

Why?

Rich might tried to talk to lieth pierre on the kids behalf, Because can hear Rich deep breathing to calm himself down, when he listens to the kid was being bullied.. So can see him try to talk to Lieth pierre only to get punished/turned by Lieth pierre.. knowing Rich temper.

Note: avery and boys are glad rich got promoted around 1990's. So with the kid tape around the year 1991 Rich voice is last heard..

with the report, around the 1990's

So something happen to Rich after he talked to the kid... I think he lost his temper around Lieth pierre, if the kid got in trouble.. or is found out.. and Rich agree's to take the punishment in the kid place without knowing what would happen to him.

The player shows regret about huggy.......

Then lets get to

1992, huggy escapes

we have not heard rich voice on any tapes after the 1991 kid tape...plus 1995 promotion talk is red flag since rich would already been promoted head of shipping.. Huggy knowledge on escaping through the shipping area=Rich hint. He also mocking Lieth pierre as a idiot after escaping.

As explained previous on my theory to Rich=huggy. Same anger/issue hitting objects in anger, and screaming in anger... and the patty connection to Rich being is wife.... anyways

chapter 5 revealed, the mutation progress/growth

the year date is not shown, but the mutation progress is shown fast growth of humans being turned into toys..

so if the 1995 is the kid(name unknown) with Rich last name.. trying to rally the workers, after taking rich advice.. Also trying to find where Rich went.. while getting support to get the company investigated.

could mean the kid is aware rich is missing.... why eddie and lieth want him gone.. Hinting Rich might have taken the fall for the kid.. if the kid was blamed later and found out..

Can see the kid be the player, because he the only one shown to care about Rich, and the player seems to have a connection to huggy... guilt about something..

Also with them promoting Lovitz, kid clue... he would also have vacation days...missing the hour of joy..

Also they mention huggy was similar to darth vader..

well, if rich=huggy and player/kid that adopted.

Don't think much people realized.

The broken sound the cardboard makes, says F---fo--oo-rr P--aa--tty

F- for patty

Her name patty is mention in the cardboard.. can make out and hear it.. more confirmation she is kissy!

To me this points out Patty was originally a orphan who grew up in the company. When she a adult she later works in playco, Then later she fell in love with Rich. Also explains rich soft spot for the orphans. Because of patty background of being one.

From the note clue, Rich demotion workplace. he drew a heart for her.

So wife clue. Don't see Rich cheating on his wife, while leaving heart notes for patty/kissy. So around the time frame rich got demoted he met and fell in love with patty, they later get married.. After promotion when the huggy toys are introduced.. he turned/goes missing.

Explains why patty was trying to find clue to where he went missing by sabotaging the toys color.

1991 she is reported. and sent to storage b where kissy later made.

also for the huggy date. 1992 he escaped to check on his house clue.. after trying to find out where his wife is.... I think that the reason he let himself be caught for why he stood motionless... because patty was already turned.. he realized... kissy calms down huggy...

anyways

Just side note, to my other theory on both them being rich and patty. As it's confirmed from Rich he try to do better for his wife/his temper and calm down.. That not coincidence patty/kissy calming huggy-rich

As for the 1995 tape, I think that the kid who took on rich last name. It make no sense When rich already has lore foreshadowing linked with patty who is kissy.

The player seems to have a connection to Huggy. Shown to us and implies the player regrets something with the monster nightmare huggy chasing us.... like he left behind someone close to him. maybe his father figure...

Rich first vhs tapes, has the missing year date, when talking about the huggy toys, 1992 we see huggy escape... So the huggy/rich tape would been a early year.

Rich is shown mocking the company as idiots who don't know what they are doing in the vhs tapes. Rich anger/temper and out lashing and hitting objects is the same as huggy bad temper/out lashes and hitting objects trying to get to us.. Also the player does not show any outlash/anger issue as rich..so it's not him. The player has been very calm beside escaping the toys trying to kill him.

The huggy toys show up around the same time Rich was promoted, and also he soon reported (this is where he turned into huggy possible)

Notice how Huggy escapes through the shipping area... Rich work area! He would know all the secret paths/short cuts.. through the entire company! He was very open to mocking the company as idiots.. and when he later escaped he also mocking leith pierre as a idiot to and killing leith pierre security team that was out to capture him in the woods.

There is also a note from security stating they heard rich mocking the company.. So could be clue Leith pierre the one who got him turned into huggy..Leith pierre does mention chapter 4.. not the first time he made someone disappear.. Also huggy voice taken... So rich can't complain/the company shut him up perma...This also shows why Leith has huggy under his control.. because of rich wife. why Rich became obidient lap dog for pierre/security (more below)

Like when play Rich tape, huggy can be seen silent/spying on us.... Also note how he knows how to navigate the entire shipping area... because he is rich clue. like tell me, who else got early build up to the huggy toys and the shipping area?? no one beside rich???

he even self repaired himself in duct tape/ropes which Rich would used in shipping.

Like chapter 1 introduced them both to us. Rich/huggy having the same bad temper/out lashing and hitting stuff when angry.. Also they both can navigate through the shipping area/entire company.. Rich was not a idiot. Huggy was praised for his high intelligence. Hinting a adult was used and not a child... Rich binding his time/temper..

ok now onto this recent tape, that shows us 1995 year below, Rich is revealed to be Lovitz last name.

Also there a blue/yellow sticky note near this tape, the same colors as huggy. like chapter 1, with the vhs tapes colored in huggy colors.

honestly this can debunk rich=huggy

BUT there two things that needs to be considered.

In the previous Tapes, Rich seemed close to one of the kid workers, Who Rich might have adopted! As the kid takes on Rich last name Lovitz... This could be the player.. trying to find his missing dad rich!

2. Also have to remember.. The company has made up lies/stories where the missing workers went.. confirmed in chapter 4.. even Pierre says it's not the first time someone went missing and they made up cover story. So how many vhs tapes... are scripted/staged? like the worker is still alive..

Like, there is already ground work already built up with all the small clue to link rich to being huggy!

Same bad temper/anger issue/hitting objects

has a note to call patty with a heart.

it revealed he has a wife, so patty is his wife clue from the note.

He states he is trying to calm down his temper for his wife

huggy bad temper is calmed down by kissy.

patty is implied to be kissy, after she miss colored the toys. making her the pink version of huggy.. showing her husband vanished before her.. why she miss colored the toys trying to see what happens with people who got reported... her husband was reported and he vanished...Also kissy cardboard at the end can hear her say "F--foor---P--aa---tty F For patty... So patty could been orphan who grew up in playco and started working there once she a adult.. She soon meets rich in the company and they both get married. Explaining Rich heart note to patty to them early dating.

In the memory tapes/battery area can hear huggy breathing grumble sounds...sound like a older man..he can't use his voice..as his voice is mutated after being turned into a toy.

Rich showed a soft spot for the orphans.. huggy memories go to rage when he starts to understand the smaller toys where the children in the memory clue.....

huggy intelligence would be adult.. not a child.. Rich was shown to be smart.

leith pierre seems to have a personal grudge against Rich, from when Rich mocked the company..and why leith took huggy as head of security tool. beside helping with shipping.. huggy long arms/strength to move boxes/shipping.. beside security.

Rich/huggy mention early hidden year date not shown in the first chapter, 1992 he escape, later 1995 Is possible the kid who taken on Rich last name... He is doing what Rich taught him...Standing up for the workers who are abused/missing like his father Rich.

So unless these clue are all random bs that go no where with no payoff later chapters..

like building up the clue with rich and patty heart note in his work place, and later confirms he has a wife who he try to calm down for.. and kissy revealed to calm huggy specifically!! leith pierre is a bastard if this is true. he was already one..but damn his personal grudge against Rich.

Remember Rich was looking out for the kid/he might adopt.

Like huggy and kissy are canon married mascot couple.. I honestly don't see the company using the bigger bodies with children also Huggy intelligence is that of older adult/rich hinted.. maybe the smaller versions.. but not the bigger ones...

Rich comment there are smarter ways to do things to the kid/hint his adopted son...

Huggy-high intelligence/obedience/waiting.

if his son follow rich example, question is he was adopted.. or he took rich last name.. Since the kid in the tapes seems to respect/see Rich as a father figure to him.

So this might be the player...

chapter 1 revealed rich name, chapter 5 only mention rich last name, like they could said rich lovitz. instead of dragging it on, if it is him, or the kid who he might adopted. and using his last name. chapter 5 they could confirmed it.. why drag this on.... and keep it vague....

Also important, Rich was already promoted by Stuart, wouldn't they say double promotion for Rich? Also Rich got reported around the huggy toys line up release(clue he vanishes around that time) imo it looks like the kid is getting promoted in 1995 , or they would been saying rich due for double promotion.. they made it sound like rich was not promoted already.