* just sits here *

Correct! They actually tried before, but TAG's hands were tied because SH wasn't unionized.

Words cannot describe how much I fucking hate her, some of the fans she's cultivated and the platform she abuses so spouting her harmful bullshit.

It was a RAPE JOKE a fucking rape joke. Pent was clawing himself away shouting no no "wait stop", shouting as he finally entered the room he was dragged to. How fucking depraved are to you do this kind of mental gymnastics. Where the fuck is the actual supposed joke according to these two cunts so common place, they talk like its a common trope joke?!

Fuck off Vivienne and whoever the fuck the person she qrted. Depraved naaiers thinking this. CONSENT CAN BE REVOKED AT ANY TIME and he clearly revoked it and in a desperate way aswell.

I responded a bit snappily due to her tone and being told to fuck off; our conversation became less heated the moment her tone got kinder. I told her I appreciated her for that, while still fundamentally disagreeing with her portrayal of the topic. I apologize for any rash or cruel things said in haste, but I was (and still am) frustrated with her constant dismissal of victims.

While assault is terrible regardless of its extremities, being forcefully kissed is not on the same level as being coerced into a sexual relationship. Not all victims/survivors have the same experiences and acknowledging that does not rob Vivzie of her victimhood. The truth of the matter is, the woman has never been financially pressured into having sex with someone, and she comes from a rich, privileged background. She does not have the experience of being so poor that she is forced into selling her body to survive.

Aight, so she says that doing these calls really pulls down her mental health and such, and she wishes to find another way to talk with people and get suggestions AFTER something bad happens on vc. While I get that these sorts of things can be taxing to some already suffering from mental health issues, this seems like a lie cause she ends up doing them anyway in the patreon server. Also, it seems to be such a waste of money to people who pay a pot to even get special perks and to be on the server.

Vivziepop either should’ve owned up to inserting her noncon fetish into Hazbin Hotel or should’ve never put it there in the first place. However, she wants to have it both ways and gets mad when she’s told she can’t.

This. The problem isn't Viv (and Raph's) noncon kink or their ships, it's how their overall handling of SA manifested in the show, and how Viv responded when called out on that.

Didn’t Hunter say that both Far-Fetched and Lackadasiy suck?

She trashed it when they won at the streamies, like full-on celebration

I say this is Karma for acting like a fucking ass. And is that Rae (someone else who works for Viv) I see at the top right there? "Jigo"

Viv:

Okay so this was based specifically off of reading a fic where two different canon female love interests were written off as "cheating bitches" despite neither of them being unfaithful to the male love interest in canon, so...that, for one thing.

A non-exhaustive list of things that make me think the author really doesn't like women that much:

Women regularly being described using derogatory language (bitch, slut, etc)

Major female romantic rivals being written off as cheating, abuse, gold-diggers in an out of character way (for fics)

Female characters being described as shrill, hysterical, etc

Male characters being written in negative ways by giving them traditionally/stereotypically feminine traits (e.g., overly submissive, especially to an "overly assertive" female character)

Transmisogyny

Fridging female characters

Relationships between two women (usually two cis women, when genitals are relevant to the conversation) being erased or existing only as an afterthought while m/m relationships are a major focus

Female characters being derided or "getting their comeuppance" for being popular, being attractive and aware of the fact that they're attractive, liking/caring about fashion, being "overly" interested in men, etc

"Not like other girls" narratives

Male characters' bad behavior towards women being erased, minimized, or treated as somehow the women's fault

Male characters being given primarily positive traits while female characters are given primarily negative traits

Including or focusing on only male characters

Female characters only existing to be rivals or cheerleaders for male characters and their relationships with each other

Female characters actively accepting and even welcoming abusive behavior from their male love interests

Female characters being presented as inherently treacherous

"Look everybody, Chai says fiction doesn't necessarily equal reality and that people shouldn't he harassed over what they like in fiction, get him!"

Five minutes later...