yet another syscourse blog

1) JKR’s essay and the subsequent hate for her made more people look into gender critical views end up in radfem circles

2) Other events cause mass peaking among radfems. Most recently, the woman who was doxxed by a trans woman (I believe) for blocking the trans woman who made her uncomfortable. Another example was pxr some time back who was run off of tumblr for commenting/making a joke (can’t remember which) about not wanting to fuck a dick as a lesbian.

3) Homophobic abuse and conversion therapy in the name of trans activism causes people to peak

4) Misogyny, silencing of women, and sexual violence in the name of trans activism causes people to peak

5) Seeing women reduced down to their body parts (eg: uterus haver, vagina owner, etc) in the name of being inclusive causes people to peak, especially when opposed to the men who don’t experience the same labelling

6) Other forms of violent threats and abuse in the name of trans activism causes people to peak

7) Lots of people get confused by the contradicting lies about radfems or keeping up with new trans identities which leads them to actually read radfem logic and then they become radfems (know more than one radfem who peaked from hate-reading radfem blogs)

8) Seeing trans women in women’s sports and other denials about the existence/importance of biological sex causes people to peak

9) Since r/GC went down, radfems have found other spaces to come together and radblr has been one of the better ones for community so more people flock here (like I’ve seen two posts about how toxic radtwitter is today)

10) The ‘based on your likes’ function typically shows TRAs radfems because we often run in circles not too far separated from each other (through similar feminist topic posts and cryptos) which makes it look like there’s just a lot of us

Makes sense, I’m tired too lmao. Decided to reply to some of them by number!

Makes sense, I read up on that said essay and it’s..certainly something.

What woman doxxed whom, I feel like there’s needed context here. Lesbians not wanting to take dick is fine and NOT transphobic at all, BUT it depends on context and how you say it.

Source? You can’t just say things and not give me at least a site reference.

Again…source? Thats a very strong statement you’re making that sexual violence has been taken place in the name of trans activism!

There’s a LOT to unpack in this one reply.

Woman are ‘reduced’ down to their body parts due to not all woman having said parts. Not all woman have a vagina, uterus, whatever the fuck.

 also this might come as a shock to you, but intersex people exist and intersex people need to be included, hence inclusive language. (this goes for both ‘men’ & ‘woman’)

It’s the same for men as well, at least in the circles i’m in. i use my fair share of “if someone has a cock” or “ball haver” in replace of something else!

The concept of men and women are societally made anyways, we have given ourselves these labels (cause that’s all they are, labels.)

Sources on homophobic, misogynistic, and otherwise violent threats/comments in the name of trans activism can be found on my side blog @tra-receipts. @opabiniawillreturn’s post ‘cherry picking’ is also an excellent source.

this 'small' handful of people are trans woman, men, gnc individuals (i didnt add this previously but fuck it), and intersex individuals.

That is not 'a small handful of people'.

Let me put this into numbers, which you've probably seen before. Might as well bring it up anyways.

1.4% of the US population ages 13-17 identify as transgender. that's 300,000 individuals. Out of the 1.3 MILLION adults who identify as transgender, 38.5% (515,200) are trans woman, 35.9% (480,000) are transgender men, and 25.6% (341,800) reported they are gender nonconforming. [source]

also, on the comment on intersex people. i myself am not intersex and i'm not Hermaphroditus LMAO. but i can tell you from what intersex individuals have said that if you're intersex you're usually ALWAYS forced into a fucking gender (and sex) role. they're usually assigned 'male' or 'female' despite their sex being unknown! they're encouraged and oftentimes FORCED into obeying a stupid fucking gender role. (ie. getting surgery so that as a 'man' they have as few 'female' features as possible and vise versa.) they're thought to be fucking nuts if they reject said gender role and sex assignment. also. it's not just pussy/cock that get affected. in some situations (i believe) it's the entire body. a person assigned male at birth can 'look like a woman' without transition and going on hrt from the moment said individual is born.

im gonna stop talking because like i said, idk everything and there could be things i said wrong in that segment!

probably the main reason i dont understand it is because i myself am not a woman. although i was afab at birth.

i dont get how these can be so dehumanizing? maybe it's my lack of empathy to see the other side of that argument (i have tried though). or i just don't get it.

i understand this history of women as a whole, woman have been fucked over for lack of better words/terms.

i - as a transman - get very fucking mad and upset that (pertaining to cis non-intersex aka perisex) woman leave us out. that woman USUALLY leave transmen and intersex people with a uterus out of the fucking equation when it comes to abortion, and other misc debates/arguments.

I think you should research more into intersex conditions before coming at me like that and saying shit like most intersex people have their sex forcibly assigned to them when their sex is actually unknown. It is only a very, very small group of intersex people who have disorders which make their biological sex more complicated than male or female. Yes, I understand the idea that many of them have surgeries and take medications to make themselves appear more normal/typical rather than for strictly medical reasons. Yes, I understand that they are still forced to perform the expected gender roles based on their assigned sex as literally everyone else in society does. But most of these people are not forcibly assigned into one category or another as they are easily identified as male or female with a specific disorder. For example, one of the more common intersex conditions is Klinefelter also known as XXY syndrome where boys typically have lowered testosterone levels and sometimes even grow some breast tissue, but they are still recognisably male.

obviously it's not fucking everyone, it's 2022 people are more educated. but there'll still be transphobic assholes.

yes when people talk about abortions, pregnancy's, etc they're talking about EVERYONE that can have them. but a big portion of the time they'll exclude the concept that men (or they'll back track on the topic) that have it and then they'll bitch at men for wanting to talk about that concept and be transphobic.

i've spoke to woman and they've told me i have no goddamn opinion as a man WHEN IM LITERALLY GETTING JUST AS EFFECTED.

Anyway, on to the post.

Disordered doesn’t mean broken.

I’ve seen countless other anti-endos try to drill the fact to the wall that we are not broken just because we are disordered, and that just because we say “we have a disorder,” “we have been hurt,” “we are survivors,” “we are in pain,” you do not get to put words in our mouths and call us broken for us. You do not get to say that we are less than you because of what we have survived.

We are the opposite of broken. We have been hurt and abused and ignored but we still function and we still continue. We still exist, traumatized and demonized as we are not only by our abusers, but by society, by people like you who say these things. Whether you like it or not. We’re not broken because we’ve had to make do with what we had. And we’re certainly not broken because we did an amazing goddamn job of it.

Do not call me broken.

My therapist and any other therapist who treats DID would say and has said the same things to their patients over and over and over in an effort to erase what society has and what you have taught us. It hurts us to see ourselves as broken because we are not. It hurts us to see ourselves as broken because it is demotivating. It makes us feel as if we are less than those who “aren’t”. And it’s not fucking true.

And we aren’t even the ones pushing it. The one that is making us believe we are broken and that is calling us broken and being horrifically fucking cruel and ableist is you.

You say nothing about us —the ones who have survived, and the ones who have been hurt, and the ones who have seen what you can’t imagine, and the ones who have done exactly what is normal and natural for us to do in response to that harm— by calling us broken and treating us as lesser. You speak volumes about yourselves and the type of people you are.

• this user can’t understand things properly or spell properly due to dyslexia so give them a minute if they don’t understand •

An idea like this does not support people with DID/OSDD. It does not support non-disordered or non-traumagenic plurals. All it does is further misinform people about DID. The fact that the supposed founder of a plurality non-profit is promoting such an uneducated and harmful idea is so incredibly disappointing. Especially because this is shortly after the horrifying reveal of a new stigmatizing horror-trope film about DID. Talk about awful timing.

In their twitter thread, which you can find here, Stronghold System claims that people should stop saying trauma causes DID because the DSM-5 only clarifies that DID is “associated” with trauma rather than caused by it. This is an absolutely bizarre claim to make.

The etiology (causation) of DID is something that has been the subject of decades of debate, dedicated research, and a massive amount of studies. There are thousands of studies of various types that conclude DID is posttraumatic. Current research into the etiology of DID describes it as an early onset posttraumatic disorder that it is caused by overwhelming experiences in childhood.

It’s not hard to look up these current, up-to-date studies. So the fact that Stronghold System sources a single diagnostic manual that was published almost a decade ago as reason that trauma doesn’t cause DID is…bizarre. The DSM-5 (and any published book for that matter) is not based off of current research. Not only are there multiple diagnostic manuals, the DSM not even being the most prevalently used one, it also isn’t meant to reflect what it’s like to live with DID, the research on DID, all the different presentations of DID, etc. It’s a diagnostic manual–a tool to be used by clinicians who are diagnosing patients.

Stronghold System continues their argument by saying that it would be unethical to conduct experiments and truly prove that DID is 100% caused by trauma. I agree with them on this…but I find this a rather strange reason to say that DID isn’t caused by trauma? After all, the same could be said for PTSD. We cannot conduct an experiment to prove that PTSD is 100% caused by trauma. Why is Stronghold System not making this same argument about PTSD’s etiology?

Furthermore, just why is it so bad to say that DID is caused by overwhelming experiences? The DSM-5 saying “associated” is a pretty flimsy reason for such a bold claim. I don’t see anything harmful that comes from talking about a disorder’s causation.

DID’s & PTSD’s etiology doesn’t mean that therapists have to demand a patient to expose their entire trauma history. It doesn’t mean that people diagnosed with DID/PTSD should dig up repressed memories of trauma. Hell, there are people out there with genuine DID/PTSD who don’t want to call what they’ve been through “trauma” and/or what they’re experiencing “DID/PTSD.” None of that changes or invalidates the fact that both DID & PTSD are caused by overwhelming experiences.

The people in the wrong are the people who take the trauma causation to extremes in order to attack people (via forcing people to dig up trauma, forcing them to identify with labels they don’t want to, attacking people who don’t identify with those labels, etc.). It’s NOT the people who are just innocently talking about what’s known to cause these disorders.

At the end of Stronghold System’s thread, their entire argument falls apart when they make it about syscourse.

This isn’t about the etiology of DID. This is about validating that which is not DID: non-traumagenic & non-disordered plurality. But the idea that “DID is not caused by overwhelming experiences” does not validate non-DID/OSDD plurality. The vast majority of these plurals express that they do not fit the criteria for a dissociative disorder. They do not see their plurality as being DID or any  disorder for that matter. Respect that and don’t go “opening up” DID in order to include them in something they don’t want to be included in.

Spreading misinforming and invalidating ideas about DID in order to make people without DID feel more valid is not the way to support anyone. And it should ESPECIALLY not be used for discourse points. I’m sickened to see this behavior in the founder of a plurality non-profit.

I was given permission to reupload this very important post on inner community harm by calioninspires from instagram/twitter! Click here for their instagram post which has image captions.

This is an open invitation to share your experiences with inner community harm on this post, but please do so respectfully. I’m sending my love and support to anyone who has been bullied or harmed by these issues. 💜