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so I heard the complete episode and this is complete bullshit

Of course it is.

Also, I wonder if they think all the times their fave puts down Misha’s acting is a good look?

Wait… no, they’d cheer it on.

Wish I was making that up. You aren't allowed to just be a fan of your own fave, Jared NEEDS to be included or they think it's fair game to attack you.

Rupert Giles. Uther Pendragon. Dr. Frank N' Furter. Anne Elliott's terrible dad in Persuasion. A much nicer dad in the classic lesbian romcom Imagine Me & You.

There was literally no role he didn't 100% commit to.

As awful as he may have worded it, he literally made a point to say the opposite of this during that purcon answer so this is just an odd comment to me

I get using that fan interaction to prove he doesn’t remember parts of the show (because the script does literally say that when Dean says “that’s not who I am” to chuck, he is thinking of what Cas said) but I don’t really see how you can use it to prove that he’s uncomfortable with it

Thanks for sharing.

I don’t think he’s seen more of SPN as a whole than J or Misha. However, he does remember some episodes/scenes that he has mentioned. I don’t know what it is about those that make them stick in his memory, but there are some.

I have no idea what he meant by it only having an impact on their relationship when he was answering the fan in the auto line vs what was written on the script. Perhaps he didn’t view the change in Dean’s perception as a self-esteem? Self-perception is different from self-esteem and maybe that’s why he answered it the way he did and those people commenting on twitter don’t get that? I don’t know. I’m just guessing.

Just a random "did it effect his self esteem?" wouldn't do much to spark deeper thoughts.

I also just don't think the confession did anything in particular for his self esteem. Esp as he probably spent plenty of time beating himself because Cas died saving him. Maybe not so much he couldn't move on and try to live a worthy life but he was still trying to "earn" it.

I don't think Dean would have suddenly felt he was "worth it". Lifelong emotional damage doesn't tend to work that way. One more person you love dying doesn't make you go "hey you know what? I get it now. I'm worthy".

I feel pretty sure part of the reason he couldn't rest in Heaven is because he STILL didn't feel worthy.

As awful as he may have worded it, he literally made a point to say the opposite of this during that purcon answer so this is just an odd comment to me

I get using that fan interaction to prove he doesn’t remember parts of the show (because the script does literally say that when Dean says “that’s not who I am” to chuck, he is thinking of what Cas said) but I don’t really see how you can use it to prove that he’s uncomfortable with it

Thanks for sharing.

I don’t think he’s seen more of SPN as a whole than J or Misha. However, he does remember some episodes/scenes that he has mentioned. I don’t know what it is about those that make them stick in his memory, but there are some.

I have no idea what he meant by it only having an impact on their relationship when he was answering the fan in the auto line vs what was written on the script. Perhaps he didn’t view the change in Dean’s perception as a self-esteem? Self-perception is different from self-esteem and maybe that’s why he answered it the way he did and those people commenting on twitter don’t get that? I don’t know. I’m just guessing.

Just a random "did it effect his self esteem?" wouldn't do much to spark deeper thoughts.

I also just don't think the confession did anything in particular for his self esteem. Esp as he probably spent plenty of time beating himself because Cas died saving him. Maybe not so much he couldn't move on and try to live a worthy life but he was still trying to "earn" it.

I don't think Dean would have suddenly felt he was "worth it". Lifelong emotional damage doesn't tend to work that way. One more person you love dying doesn't make you go "hey you know what? I get it now. I'm worthy".

I feel pretty sure part of the reason he couldn't rest in Heaven is because he STILL didn't feel worthy.

His first handler looked at the art and looked at me like "uh are you sure you want him to see this?" And i looked at her like "oh come on" so she gave it to jensen who took it and his face went "oh-oh". He showed it to his other handler and said "hey! is this the one you hung in your appartment?"

Then my interaction with him went like this:

Me: i didn't got the time to ask you a question during your panel, can i ask it now?

Jensen: ...

Me: okay so i wanted to know if you think castiel's confession had an impact on dean self-esteeem?

Jensen: Self-esteem? No.

Me: Yes, yeah self-esteem.

Jensen: No no. It only had an impact on their relationship.

Then he looked at me checking my reaction, probably expecting me to say something but i panicked, took the art, said thank you and immediately left. I turned over after 2 feet and he was still looking at me.

so I heard the complete episode and this is complete bullshit

Of course it is.

Also, I wonder if they think all the times their fave puts down Misha’s acting is a good look?

Wait… no, they’d cheer it on.

Sam’s voicemail: If this is an emergency, call my brother.

Dean’s voicemail: If this is an emergency, leave a message or try my other phone.

Once Dean expresses annoyance about dogs, and it isn't really even about dogs as much as it is about dog fur and dog smell.

Hell, I have a dog, and dog fur and dog smell are definitely annoyances.

But I digress.

So those supposed real Dean fans (read: actually Sam fans) ignore all of the other developments we see regarding Dean and dogs and cling to one thing he said once upon getting his car back (and coming back from freaking Purgatory)...why?

So they can give Sam something else (in this case, Miracle the dog).

You know what Sam got that Dean didn't? Shielded by his father for as long as he could from monsters and how his mother died. He got teachers who saw something in him even as he was bouncing from school to school. He got such a good education that he got a free ride to Stanford. He got friends in college and a girlfriend and he got to have normal social interactions like parties and dorm living. He even got a girlfriend or two during the run of the show, one whom he cared about so much that he brought her back from the dead. Then he got married, had a kid, and lived a good, long life.

Dean was six when he shot his first gun. Two years after he watched his mother die in a fire. He was 11 when he built his own gun. He got left in jail for stealing food...for Sam...and then he got taken away from the safest place he had known since he was four years old. He got his ass whooped when Sam ran away as if it was his fault. He was so mentally (and probably physically) abused that he looked at Sam going to college as abandonment, and he cowered around his father, even when he became a man who could take him in a fight if necessary. He got meaningless one-night stands, and then the one relationship he had on screen that really worked, they pretended wasn't really happening. Then they killed the person closest to him and left him to die on a rusty nail.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Okay, this made me emotional. I never understood why i disliked sam and this post made the reason so clear.

Dean really gave it all up. Really i mean dean went to hell for his sake and gave up so much. It wasn't just john, it was dean who literally sheileded him in their childhood from monsters for as long as he could. He, himself was a child, trying to protect sam.

His whole life, he took care of sam, in ways nobody could. I mean nobody gave a fuck about sam, it was only dean, fighting and protecting him even from his own fuck ups. He had let go of his own girlfriends for his sake. His first girlfriend, he let go so as to go and take care of him. Even during lisa, he went ahead and chose him. He let go of benny. He let go of castiel, the only person he loved so deeply to save his fucking ass. He cooks for him, saves him and treat him like a child even during season 15. He was literally pampered as much as one could be in that situation. Dean is like a helicopter hovering over his ass and taking care but in return dean gets nothing but more expectation. Sam doesn't return that care but feel no shame in asking it for more. He rejoice when he realizes how much dean loves him, but won't even make an effot to try find his brother if he disappeared.

His stans are same. They expect dean to lay his life for sam, so he lives a little more comfortably. How dare he get a dog. Its sam who deserves everthing.

“weird favoritism” I feel like favoring the actor that is better at performing a wide emotional range, doesn’t destroy the set and creates good on-screen chemistry with the other actors instead of constantly messing with them, isn’t that weird

People have the strangest takes. This is what happens when you don’t understand character development, etc.

“Real Dean lovers” 🙄 Real Dean lovers understood his arcs and development.

The entire point of giving Dean the dog was Dean needed something to believe in. That’s why the dog’s freaking name is Miracle FFS.

I will never not laugh at Sam stans who seem to really not understand why Dean was the writers’ favorite and I love pointing out that were Jared a better actor maybe things would have been different. But you put Jensen and Jared next to each other and to most people the one who shines is Jensen. Them’s just facts.

Ffs, first they want to take Dean’s job application and give it to Sam. Now it’s his dog. Man can’t have nothing.

I believe [not direct quote] that he wished he could keep him but he was on the road too much?

But yeah Dean cant have anything without it been given to Sam

Dog Dean Afternoon was season 9.

Miracle showed up in season 15.

Also even ignoring that explanation, season 3, he loves dogs as seen in his reaction to the golden retriever. Season 4 he's KILLED by Hell Hounds. Season 8 he says no dogs. Season 9 is Dog Dean afternoon. Season 15 he's thrilled to find a dog alive after every other living thing in the world disappears

It would make sense as you all point out as character development that Dog Dean Afternoon helped him rediscover his love of dogs.

He also always liked animals - in season 2 Tall Tales one if Loki's victims was a professor involved in animal experiments and Dean was basically like well he deserved it. In season 3 I think it was with the witches, he was like "why do he rabbits always suffer for it".

The man is just sitting there. How does he even make that look perfect? 🔥