Sup, I'm Aaron and typology is my special interest. I'm not the MOST knowledgable and I'm doing this for fun, so please take everything I say with a grain of salt
I mainly use he/him +neopronouns but she/her is chill as well I guess
Requests: Open, I'll type OCs, fictional characters, or even you, yourself !
My interests besides typology include: Pokemon, Fire Punch, Homestuck/Vast Error/Snowbound Blood, a lot of different webcomics (mainly ones that can be found on comicfury), Tomodachi Game, Durarara/Baccano, Heavenly Delusion, Detective Conan, and prolly more :P
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Every day I'm like I wanna use this account more and then never do...EITHER WAY boys are having a typology conundrum so if anyone wants to help out that'd be much appreciated, feel free to dm :3 I am very friendly hiii
I just realized I can put my conundrum here and have people comment instead of just dm-ing BUT I'm mainly confused about whether I'm an e2 or e3...if anyone has good sources on the main differences between e2s and e3s (and also things that cover the insitnctual variants) feel free to send them my way (sniles)
Every day I'm like I wanna use this account more and then never do...EITHER WAY boys are having a typology conundrum so if anyone wants to help out that'd be much appreciated, feel free to dm :3 I am very friendly hiii
I would like to start off that this is PURELY FOR FUN !!! Do not use this as an actual way to classpect yourself, this is just me throwing my interests into a pot and stirring them up LoL
OK NOW THAT THAT'S BEEN SAID:
Classes are based off of enneagram, since enneagrams are basically your biggest flaws/sins, the class you're assigned is meant to be your downfall and meant to challenge you in some way.
You are going to need to know your instinctual variant and enneagram type for this, but IV really only matters if you're a countertype
Down here is the guide on what is what, there is 4 different choices for each enneagram, specifically 2 wings, 1 encompassing the entire number itself (in case you feel like your wing isn't very prominent) and one for the enneagram countertype. If you are the countertype, this will override your wing anyway so you'll be the countertype class!
1w9: Sylph
1: Prince
1w2: Maid
Sx1: Bard
2w1: Prince
2: Maid
2w3: Bard
Sp2: Sylph
3w2: Page
3: Thief
3w4: Knight
Sp3: Rogue
4w3: Thief
4: Knight
4w5: Rogue
Sp4: Page
5w4: Heir
5: Seer
5w6: Witch
Sx5: Mage
6w5: Seer
6: Heir
6w7: Mage
Sx6: Witch
7w6: Knight
7: Thief
7w8: Page
So7: Rogue
8w7: Maid
8: Prince
8w9: Sylph
So8: Bard
9w8: Mage
9: Heir
9w1: Seer
So9: Witch
Example of typing using this system, I was Sp7 with a high 8 wing, this means I'd be a Page!
Now onto aspects! Aspects are basically what encompasses you wholely, so I thought MBTI (specifically cognitive functions) would make the most sense to be used here since that encompasses how you think!
Each type is broken into either perceiving functions (ne/se/ni/si) or judging functions (fe/te/fi/ti). If you feel like you are DEFINITELY an extroverted perceiver (eg you know you're either Se/Ne, but don't know which one) then you'd choose the extroverted perceiving function !
Ne: Time
Ni: Doom
Se: Life
Si: Space
Extroverted Perceiving: Light
Introverted Perceiving: Void
Fe: Blood
Fi: Heart
Te: Mind
Ti: Breath
Extroverted Judging: Rage
Introverted Judging: Hope
Using this system, I am somewhere between Ne and Se, making me an extroverted perceiver, therefore I'm a light player!
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Hiii I'm coming back to this account to say I am going to try to do some more typings later >:3c I've been rereading my typings because I am a self obsessed weirdo and I am the only person with good opinion on typology slash jay. But for real, I plan on doing some webcomic typings maybe? If anyone has any media requests, feel free to send em my way :D I just feel like typing (and the stuff I'm reading right now is very longform so it'd take me a long ass time before I'd feel comfortable typing the characters there LoL)
Transfem Dave is actually really cool from a classpecting perspective with knights whole thing of subverting their aspect and time's very obvious masculine themage but you guys aren't ready for that conversation
Honestly, a good way to describe active and passive dichotomy is that active are the catalysts, they are changers, movers and shakers, they don't stand still. Passive characters, on the other hand, are swept along in the narrative. It has nothing to do with powers, actually passive characters are more likely to be overpowered than an active character, it's about what they do with their powers.
You can read WLB over at @whatlurksbean it's very good....I've been wanting to give them some typology for awhile cuz ooog I love how these characters are written so much
Spoilers for the comic btw! (Putting it under a read more cuz oh my god it's long. Sorry. Also this gets progressively lazier so. Ewps)
Trout:
I have three different possible enneagram typings for Trout, I see her either as a 6, 9 or a 4, with a slight preference for the 6 typing. Though she does seem to feel the general melancholy of a 4, prioritizing her problems and victimizing herself, she doesn't seem to feel envy whatsoever, which makes me think she just has a strong 4 fix instead of it being her core.
9 was my best guess for awhile, she seems to merge with a group heavily and needs validation from those around her, but when I think about it she's much too "active" to be a 9. Though she does (somewhat) numb herself, she doesn't do it enough for me to think it's her core...
As for 6, to me, she comes off as a phobic 6 who defers to authority to get what she wants. She lives off the validation of the group before anything else, and is very much a yes-man, deciding that the safety she gets from the group is the most important thing in her life, even at the expense of other's lives.
One could make an argument that that is 9-core, numbing herself to everyone else's problems, but 9s don't numb themselves outwardly they do it inwardly. A 9 wouldn't care about their problems, focusing on merging with their group while ignoring themselves, while a 6-core is more likely to focus on their own safety and well being over everyone around them.
As for MBTI, she seems to be a textbook fe-ti user. Her fe is very obvious, she cares more about other's validation than having her own opinions (fe>ti/fi) and doesn't seem to have her own set of morals, shown when she lets Tusk die just because she was scared of the backlash.
As for si/ne or ni/se, I'm not exactly sure. At first, I was pretty sure she was an si user, but when I think about it more that seems to have been based off of different si stereotypes, but Ni-dom Trout also doesn't make much sense...
I am going to go with Si-dom just because she doesn't show much Ne OR Ni, but shows plenty of Si/Se and I couldn't see her as Se inferior
For psychosophy, she is DEFINITELY 1 or 3F. I am going to go with 1F due to her seeming confident in her physics early on. She's a good hunter and seems more likely to stay in "reality", but later her physics placement becomes insecure due to the assassination attempts.
For the rest of psychosophy, 2E is a given due to her people and group oriented nature. She listens to groups and succumbs to peer pressure, but her emotions were also much stronger before the assassination attempts, which is why I'm going with 2E instead of 4E.
3V and 4L also make sense to me, she doesn't seem to care much about logic but is VERY insecure about her volition. She wants to be seen as a good leader, and often debates whether she'll end up like Thresher.
As for classpecting, I think doom makes most sense for her...doom is both about literal "doom" (shown in like. Gestures at her entire life) but also in restriction. Just like life players are about growth and overcoming burdens, doom players live with these burdens and seem to be tied down. In Trout's case, this is shown with how much she values the group over everything else. This in and of itself is a burden to her, she is being tied down by a prison of her own making
For class, I'm gonna just go with heir. She seems to perfectly embody the Doom aspect, and is more passive than active so. Yeah
Final Typology:
ISFJ - 6w7 - 649 - FEVL - Heir of Doom
Sturgeon:
For enneagram, she is definitely a 5. 6 is also a possibility, but 5 just seems to make more sense. She watches from the shadows, not playing a spotlit role (unlike Trout) but still effecting everything with her knowledge. She's a gatherer of knowledge, and though she can interact with other cats just fine, she has a preference to watch, which is often shown when she watches the graveyard. She wants to know everything, both to feel usefull and because she "refuses to be stupid", so 5!
For the rest of her tritype, she definitely gives off the vibes of an 8-fix, especially earlier in comic. She has her own (very strong) opinions, and often needs to be in control, shown all the times she tells Trout what to do. Also 3, just because I cannot see her as either 2 or 4-fixed LMAO
Sturgeon is so te-fi user, but is definitely in the middle axis with both. She has pretty proper usage of both, having strong, internal beliefs but also being very duty and efficiency oriented. As for Si/Ne or Ni/Se, she shows much more Ni-dom to me. She lives in her own head, often to the point where others are confused by her behaviors. She doesn't show much Ne, either, having a more "one-track mind".
For psychosophy, she is definitely confident logic and volition, and for placement I'm gonna go with 1L and 2V. Yes, she does order Trout around, but she obviously cares about other people's input and isn't afraid to have her ideas be challenged (even if she usually thinks she has the best decisions around).
3E due to emotional constipation LoL, and 4F because that's all that's left! She doesn't seem to care about physics at all so this makes sense LoL
For classpecting, I'm gonna go with the mind aspect, maybe? She's very logic oriented, but not in the more "action" focused way of the light aspect. She cares about the future and is always coming up with plans which seems to follow the mind theme pretty well...
As for class, she is definitely a mage. Unlike seers, mages learn actively, meaning they often have to go through trial and errors with their aspect before they can get all the knowledge they need.
Final Typology:
INTJ - 5w6 - 538 - LVEF - Mage of Mind
AND FINALLY, Hake:
Hake is for sure a 9, he numbs himself from his problems by focusing on others, shown in his entire relationship with Tusk. He also definitely has a 7 and 2-fix. He doesn't have the general "hero complex" of an so7 or the love need of a 2, because I can't see any other head/heart triad type fitting him.
For MBTI, definitely another fe user. though this time I think it's his dominant function. I'm also pretty sure he's on the Ni/Se axis with the way he prioritizes physical experiences. He's never really shown too much in his head, and often gets excited at the prospect of certain activities such as fighting, preferring it to more menial tasks like hunting. I'm gonna go Se>Ni though, so I'mma say he's Fe/Se
Psychosophy, he is DEFINITELY 2E and 4V. He gives zero shits about his place in the hierarchy, even if he does inadvertantly use it to his advantage when helping others. His 2E is also shown with how much he listens and cares about others, being both confident with emotions, but still listening to others.
I would say 1F and 3L but tbh I'm not exactly sure LoL
For classpecting, he definitely comes off as a knight...usually I prefer to choose aspect before class but this just seems obvious. He's somewhat insecure (which hasn't been fully explored but I am sensing the foreshadowing LoL) and cares more about helping others than taking care of himself.
For his aspect, I could honestly see any, but I'm gonna go with Blood (Karkat moment). Unlike a breath player, blood players are tied down by their bonds. They need other people and care about others more than they'd ever care about themselves.
Final Typology:
ESFJ - 9w1 - 927 - FELV - Knight of Blood
I was gonna do Tusk but I'm getting tired so. I'll just leave my conclusion and might come back and write the reasoning later LoL
Tusk's Typology: ISTP - 6w5 - 683 - LFEV - Bard of Life
I'm rereading Shaman King and I like it SO I wanted to type them! I'm only on chapter 60-something, so I'll only be doing charas that have appeared so far in my reread. I'll be covering MBTI, Psychosophy, and Classpects !
Yoh Asakura:
For his MBTI type, I'm unsure whether he uses fe or fi...his morals aren't really talked about, and most people type him as fi because of this. Yes, I would say he has a lot of morals, and I do agree they come from internally (he has a habit of helping people even tho everyone around him tells him not to), BUT I honestly think his si is MUCH higher than his fi.
Yes, he's moralistic and kind, but first and foremost he is about reminiscing (idk if that's the best way to put it). He sees the past in a very subjective light, always gazing at the stars, living in the moment but not in the way an Se user would, he doesn't live in the moment he breathes in the moment. He's silent, steady, he lets the moment pass around him, instead of trying to directly influence it.
Because of this, I think he's ISFJ (Si-FI) though if you're a PDB-truther and only use IEIE stacks, I think Si/Fe>Si/Te, so, either way, ISFJ.
For his psychosophy, he's a pretty obvious 1F and 4V, preferring the physical realm and being as comfortable as possible with little care for his volition, preferring to follow others. 2E and 3L also makes sense, he listens to others emotions and is always there to listen, 3L doesn't make as MUCH sense but that's what we're left with LoL
And for classpect, DEFINITELY a breath player, honestly I could 100% see heir of breath, both because he's A. Very passive and B. Protagonist classpect /j
But for real, I'm thinking either heir of breath or sylph of breath, but I'm leaning towards sylph. He's actively trying to free the other characters (speciifcally Ren) but doesn't steal from others like a rogue
Full Typing:
ISFJ (Si/Fi) - 9w1 - 972 - SCUAN - FELV - Phlegmatic-Sanguine - Neutral Good - Sylph of Breath
Manta:
Manta is for sure also an Si user, just like Yoh, but for very different reasons. Of course, he's very cautious and prefers the known to the unknown, but more than that he learns from what he knows. He takes his experiences and revelations from his senses, and puts it to practical use, which SCREAMS Si/Te to me. He's not as aggressive with sensing like an Se user, his more "down to earth"-ness comes first and foremost from his Te.
Also he's SO te/fi axis. Specifically, he has incredibly unhealthy fi at the beginning of the story. He's selfish and only uses his Te, referring to his dictionary as the truth of the world because it's verified facts.
For psychosophy, he's probably 1L and 2V, he HAS a dream and isn't afraid to go for it, but early on in the story he specifically listens to others and ignores his own wants. His entire story is about how he feels like he doesn't have a dream or purpose in life, which makes me think process volition, but I think it's stronger than a 4V would be. Also 3E and 4F I think. No real reasoning behind this, I'm just guessing LMAO
As for classpect, definitely a mind type. The mind-heart dichotomy makes a lot of sense for him, he has no identity and only looks at things through the scope of what is true. For his class, I'm not exactly sure, I think page would make a lot of sense but NOT mixed with mind...If I were to pick something good to go with mind I'd honestly say heir of mind makes most sense, with mage of mind and page of heart being a close second
Full Typing:
ISTJ (Si/Ti) - 6w5 - 694 - RLOAI - LVEF - Melancholic-Phlegmatic - Lawful Neutral - Heir of Mind
Anna:
I think her Te is very obvious, but I'm unsure if it's dominant or not? I don't see much Ni or Si tbh so I'm leaning towards yes. As for ni or si, I think Ni, but I'm not sure? I haven't really dived deep into her personality, but I think she shows more intuiition than sensing in general so idk...also se>ne I think.
For psychosophy, DEFINITELY 1V and 3L, I'm gonna say VFLE, her 1V is obvious, always pushing those around her to be better and having a general leader like impression on everyone. For 3L, I'm mainly saying this because I cannot see her logic as process, so 3L's what's left LMAO
Classpect is tougher, part of me wants to say rage but that doesn't make much sense to me. Time or doom would actually work better I think, but I'm leaning towards Time. Not much is known about time, this is mainly vibe typed LMAO. I'mma go Mage of Time
Full Typing:
ENTJ (Te/Ni) - 3w4 - 351 - RCOEI - VFLE - Choleric-Melancholic - True Neutral - Mage of Time
I'm tired of explaining so I'mma just put the rest as just their type and come back and write about it later LMAO
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Noticed u reblogged homestuck stuff and I've been reading summer vacation so I must ask...if the two main charas had classpects, what would they be? And do u know ur classpect (sorry for classpect questions I'm autism)
NEVER BE SORRY THIS IS SUCH AN INTERESTING QUESTION. i love using classpects as a form of media/character analysis so:
marion is a maid of doom. she causes doom, i literally can't elaborate more because i would spoil the WHOLE COMIC. she's also very pessimistic in most aspects and tends to be a reality check for kaz. i'll be honest this was a REALLY HARD pick for her-- other options i was considering for her are sylph and rogue. marion is also quite literally doomed to fail-- low grades, a lack of motivation and anxiety about growing up dooms her to never leave her home, even though the choice is hers to leave. she also dooms others in the comic, caused by her choices. marion's moon is derse.
kaz is a knight of breath. she uses her personality and flexibility to get what she wants. she quite literally breezes through life without much struggle, and tends to be personable and easygoing. she's good at making friends wherever she goes because she's pretty perceptive and adaptable in social situations. she is a protector for spoiler reasons. she also visibly weaponizes her upbeat side to get marion to drop a negative topic multiple times in the comic already. kaz's moon is prospit.
i'll give you a freebie too-- kirby is a bard of hope and he's prospit. take that as you will JKFHDJSKF
i'm personally an heir of time! thank you for the ask !!!
OK I'm gonna make an analysis post (This is Radiken's typology alt hi)
BUT I have very many thoughts about these classpects, but I'll start with an overall analysis of each (this is purely speculation and my own opinion! My opinion heavily differs from other's and since classpects are so subjective, I might be wrong)
Maid of Doom: Maids are like. The opposite of a destruction class in my opinion, they actively have little of their aspect so they have to create it as compensation, whereas a prince would have too much of their aspect and have to actively destroy it.
In this, we can assume that a maid is someone who creates a literal doom, though this isn't necessarily a negative thing. Doom is just as much about healing as life is, but in an emotional sense more than a physical sense. Doom players are people who understand the negative of life more than the average person. They're not necessarily negative people, but they usually are pessimistic but at the same time idealistic, wanting to make things better. They're practical and actively want to help.
In the case of a maid of doom, they'd be someone who's probably had a less than eventful life, but would consistently self destruct (which seems to be a major theme in the story based off of Kirby's classpect). They would break the things around them. They're still helpers and healers, wanting the best for others but actively destroying their chances to help the people around them.
They might be a negativist, feeling like the world is a self-fulfilling prophecy where everything inevitably gets worse and feels like everything's their fault, but they keep the habit of destroying because it's all they know.
Doom can also be about a sense of control, so you could think of their destruction as a way to have control, to have power over something, though this the "doom means constraints" is mainly a theory that I've mixed opinions on :P
As for knight of breath, knights are a class of protectors and self loathing invididuals (?) which might not be the best term for it but like. I mean people who take care of themselves less, not because they're inherently selfless but because they don't see themselves as worthy of protecting.
Knights are also known as one of the most insecure classes, especially revolving around their aspect. It's often theorized that knights lack their aspect, but I don't think that's true, their insecurity with their aspect comes from how it's used. Knights only know how to harness it as a weapon, they do not have a positive relationship with their aspect as they see it as something to be used and not something that's part of their being
Breath is about freedom, specifically freedom from bonds. This doesn't make breath players anti-social or introverted, but the need to be free from the expectations and judgment of others.
In this case, a knight of breath would be insecure over their bonds with others, feeling the need to keep as many people as close as possible without realizing what they need to do is give them freedom. A knight of breath would probably feel constrained, unable to realize they don't necessarily need to surround themselves with others to be happy, and no matter how much they love the people around them, that freedom is the most important virtue to them.
They would literally protect others with freedom as a construct, which I think fits Kaz considering how they reacted to Kirby's absence. They immediately decided he just needed to be free from his constraints, and they understand that on a deeper level (even if not overtly).
This also works well with the maid of doom, as Marion would most likely self destruct by forcing contraints on herself while Kaz is trying to break those constraints. It might be a tug of war (in which the winner will likely ascend first) but, yet again, this is just a theory about doom LoL
I went into bard of hope in the comments, but I'll go over it here as well!
Bards are a passive destruction class, in my opinion meaning they destroy without realizing it. In the case of a bard of hope, they'd be destroying faith.
The thing is, bards have so much of their aspect inside of themselves, but they passively destroy it, so it looks like they have none. Take Gamzee as an example, dude is FULL of rage (as shown during murderstuck) but unknowingly destroys that shit, putting on the visage of a calm religious person.
In this case, my theory is one of these two things: Bard of Hope Kirby is self destructing, feeling like they've lost all hope in humanity and decided to run away because of this
Or
This is Kirby "ascending" (metaphorically), finally stopping destroying their hope and deciding this was the best course of action, having faith in the universe that he'll end up somewhere better.
AS FOR THEORIES AND SPECULATION REGARDING THIS:
-Marion is going to hurt someone (in a literal sense). This could be anything from a major injury, accidentally hitting someone, or even straight up murdering someone. She'll probably feel BAD about it tho LoL
-Kaz is going to be one of the people witnessing what Marion did, and is going to try and cover for them
-Kirby is either doing real bad or real good, there's no real inbetween. I wouldn't be surprised if they found him and he was straight up dead, or if they found him and he was living the life of his dreams...really depends which route we're taking LoL
-Destruction will play a major role in this and specifically the destruction of oppressive systems
-I think the ending will be somewhat happy, though more likely bittersweet. Optimistic is a better term for this, more like the characters are going to go through terrible shit but the ending is like "Things r only gonna get better !"
Like I said, this I'd speculative cuz I only just finished the first book! Won't go into detail, I'll just leave their type. This is mainly to see how much my opinions on the characters change the more I read! I'll try to do one of these after everytime I finish a book in the series (only if my opinion changes)
Question marks are behind any vibe typings/guesses
If your still doing classpects, could you maybe cook up something for a prospit dreaming Thief of Breath? Blogs that do this are just such a dying breed and I seriously need some help bouncing ideas around for a character of mine; thanks in advance for your help!!
I NEEDED TO DO THIS CUZ I USED TO BE A PROSPIT THIEF OF BREATH HEYYY >:D
Thieves are one of the easiest classes to understand, they literally steal. They're selfish, but not necessarily unkind or unlikable.
Breath is all about freedom, most breath players are leader like without even realizing it but this is just because they're constantly searching for something better.
In the case of a thief of breath, they would literally hoard that freedom. They would steal it, pushing others down, taking their movements and tying them to reality. Their head would constantly be in the clouds, at least after they start stealing more of their aspect.
Originally, they might come off as static, not able to move without "stepping" on other's freedoms. Like all thieves, they don't think twice about what they're doing, and this goes doubley for a thief of Breath, who's always on the move whilst tying others down
In the case of a prospit user, they'd be heavy idealists hiding a secret cynical side covering it up by stealing breaths trademark optimism, they believe time heals all wounds, and would more likely work on their own problems rather than try to fix a broken world (this is mainly from my experience as a prospit dreamer, prospit and derse are very open ended when it comes to speculation, so take this all with a grain of salt)
I just checked realm of the elderlings on PDB and the fool is typed as an e4? Bro is as 7 as they come from what I've seen, absolutely no envy or melancholic-nature, but also I haven't read too much RotE but like. Is it cuz he's quirky? Cuz he's #different? Cuz he's got gender?
I'm gonna try and make a speculative mbti post about this series later, but I wanna finish the first book before I do so (shouldn't take much longer)
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I just checked realm of the elderlings on PDB and the fool is typed as an e4? Bro is as 7 as they come from what I've seen, absolutely no envy or melancholic-nature, but also I haven't read too much RotE but like. Is it cuz he's quirky? Cuz he's #different? Cuz he's got gender?
I'm gonna try and make a speculative mbti post about this series later, but I wanna finish the first book before I do so (shouldn't take much longer)
Stuff about knight of time? That’s my classpect and I wanna know more abt it
Another toughie, mainly cuz (unlike most aspects) time is incredibly open ended, I wouldn't even necessarily call it multi-faceted it just straight up can be about pretty much anything, since time in this case is more of a concept than an actual personality.
The way I differentiate time is that it's about the conrete, physical reactions and stimuli. This includes things like death, the passage of time itself, etc. While time is more about observing what is real, space is about making what's not (terraforming the literal space around them)
In this case, a knight of time would probably be "out of it" so to say, having a hard time with physical realities. This doesn't mean they're dissociative, they are just insecure physically, they probably fear death for themselves or might even just not realize the full scope of death itself. They wouldn't really know their place in the world, preferring to blend into the background and not be noticed (since time is an incredibly "warm" aspect to use the words of a different classpect analyzer who's name I forgot ? I think Optimistic Duelist but I could be wrong).
Another thing is that knights fundementally lack their aspect, or at least feels like they do. A knight of time would feel they lack common sense or groundedness, this is most likely an insecurity for them but not always. In the case of Dave, though he is incredibly insecure he's not insecure in his aspect, actually he's quite confident, but doesn't notice how much it lacks in his life. He's able to weild it like a knife, but (unlike an heir) it isn't a fundemental part of his life. He uses it, and that's about it, he doesn't want to understand it more, he actively dislikes it due to insecurities hidden deeper in his psyche, if that makes any sense? Kinda got off topic but, basically what I'm saying is -> Knights are insecure but not necessarily BAD at their aspect, actually they're quite good at weilding it but only know how to USE it, not understand it
