On the killer graph, it was stated that Meenah killed 26 people, but I only recall her killing 12 characters (The alpha trolls). Are you counting her forking dream John? All the deaths caused by the Condesce? Where is the number coming from? Thanks!
oh ye sorry i made that post forever ago and really should have clarified better: all the death statistics are for every version of a character. since theyāre the ones who actually played the game, i consider the dancestors to be the āalphaā version of the ancestors. so yes, itās counting the condesce too.
in all honesty though, saying who is responsible for a death is sometimes difficult and iāve had like one or two corrections since then, so the killer graph is slightly off by a death or two.Ā the actual lists and victim stats are still all accurate tho!
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Although Dave is responsible for most decapitations, doesn't he get decapitated once also?
if weāre talking about this dave:
iām gonna say it doesnāt count since we never saw his his head actually come off. i think throat-slitting is much more likely, especially since it mirrors this:
In Homestuck deaths part one, you list rose fading into oblivion as a death, which is understandable, based on the phrasing. Only problem is that she merges with the other Rose from the main timeline, which she references in a much later panel (somewhere on the meteor I think). It's not really something that needs to be corrected, but I just felt it was worth mention that her death there is dubious.
i actually counted it as a dubious death in the graphs, i just forgot to say so in the original post. fixed now!
John and Jade talk a lot like each other: look carefully. His most distinctive word is āJade.ā
Jadeās most distinctive word is āJohn.ā
Rose speaks the most diversely of the betas. Her most distinctive word is āsession.ā
Dave curses the fifth most of any character. Unsurprisingly, his most distinctive word is āshit.ā
The longer version
Johnās lexical density (a rough measure of word diversity and thus vocabulary) is 8.9%, which is low for his corpus size of 34,000 wordsāheās the second biggest talker in Homestuck after Karkat with 39,000 words. His cursing rate is 0.41%, which is low, and he prefers to use āshit.ā
Jadeās LD is 10.6% from nearly 19,000 words, which is low. Compare John and Jadeās clouds and youāll see the similarity in their speech. Her cursing rate is 0.12%, which is very low.
Roseās LD is , 17.0% from about 21,000 words, which is higher than expected.. Her cursing rate is 0.16%, which is very low.
Daveās LD is 12.6% from about 33,000 words, which is about average for this corpus size. He says the third most of any character in the web comic after John. If itās not obvious, Daveās cursing rate is very high at 2.27%. His lexical weapon of choice is f*ck, making up 40% of all his 758 verbal bombs so far.
All of the dialog was compiled as one big corpus to which each character was compared to using AntConc. The top five were chosen, ignoring any common or interjective words.
Johnās most distinctive words are Jade, dad, Rose, Vriska, and guess.
Jadeās are John, password, woof, Bec, and frog. I usually prefer to remove onomatopoeic words but āwoofā was too cute to not include. Most of the woofs come from the time she chased Jaspersprite down the hallway on the ship.
Roseās are session, Kanaya, grist, question, and null. Three of them all refer to some part of Sburb: the kidsās session, grist of various sorts, and a null session.
Daveās most distinctive words are shit, f*cking, f*ck, dude, and f*ckin. This makes it very apparent how much more he curses than the other betas.
Excluding Johnās own cloud, John is the most frequently mentioned character in all of the other beta kidsā dialog.
aaaa i havenāt posted in forever and i probably still wonāt for a while cause life reasons, but hereās some really rad statistics someone else figured out!
The person who says the most is Rose again, but John beats her if you count writing.
[Act 1] [Act 2]
There are 5599 words spoken/written by characters in Act 3, spread between 21 pesterlogs, 3 commands, 5 letters, and 1 GameFAQ entry. (plus 1243 words from repeated pesterlogs).
The average pesterlog length is 235.8 words, with the longest at 620 words and the shortest at 5 words.
The most developed relationship is John and Rose (big surprise), with 7 pesterlogs and 1150 words (+192 in Johnās letter) between them.
The least developed relationship is Dave and John, with 2 pesterlog and only 15 words between them, all said by Dave.
The most unbalanced relationship is Dave and Jade, which doesnāt have a quantifiable ratio because itās just Dave rambling at Jade for 283 words with no reply.
The most balanced relationship is John and Jade, with Jade only talking 3.2% more than John.
Graphs and breakdown under the cut!
Note: a conversation (as opposed to a pesterlog) lasts until at least one of the participants signs out of pesterchum.
Note the second: I only counted written words that were A) written to someone (even just āthe internetā) and B) actually in the comic (no sbahj or character blogs for you)
John talks, on average, ~23.2% less than his friends during conversation.
Rose talks ~4.1% more than her friends during conversation.
Dave talks ~275.5% more than his friends during conversation.
Jade talks ~37.2% less than her friends during conversation.
Nanna talks ~21.3% more than John during conversation.
Karkat talks 22.5% more than Jade during conversation.
Tavros talks ~55.8% less than Dave during conversation.
Kanaya talks ~33.5% more than Rose during conversation.
John says 758 total words of dialogue. He averages 84.2 words per pesterlog across 7 pesterlogs and 252.7 per conversation across 3 conversations. He also writes 1766 words non-dialogue words total.
John -> Rose: John says 481 words total, averaging 68.7 words per pesterlog across 7 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Johnās minimum (greater than 0) contribution to a pesterlog with Rose is 26 words, and his maximum is 103.
John says ~28% less than Rose during conversation.
He also writes 192 words to her in a letter.
John -> Dave: John writes 185 words to Dave in a letter.
John ->Jade: John says 183 words total, all in one pesterlog.
John says ~4% less than Jade during conversation.
He also writes 283 words to her in a letter.
John ->Nannasprite: John says 94 words total, all in one pesterlog.
John says ~18% less than Nannasprite during conversation.
John writes 1142 words in Roseās GameFAQ.
Dave says 781 total words of dialogue. He averages 130.2 words per pesterlog across 6 pesterlogs and 195.3 per conversation across 4 conversations.
Dave -> John: Dave says 15 words total, averaging 7.5 words per pesterlog across 2 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Daveās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John is 5 words, and his maximum is 10.
John doesnāt actually say anything back, like a jerk, so the ratio isnāt quantifiable.
Dave -> Rose: Dave says 53 words total, averaging 26.5 words per pesterlog across 2 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Daveās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with Rose is 16 words, and his maximum is 37.
Dave says ~195% more than Rose during conversation.
Dave -> Jade: Dave says 283 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Jade also doesnāt respond, because apparently rudeness is genetic.
Dave -> Tavros: Dave says 430 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Dave says ~126%Ā more than Tavros during conversation.
Rose says 1082 total words of dialogue. She averages 108.2 words per pesterlog across 10 pesterlogs and 270.5 per conversation across 4 conversations.Ā
Rose -> John: Rose says 669 words total, averaging 95.6 words per pesterlog across 7 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Roseās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John is 17 words, and her maximum is 198.
Rose says ~39% more than John during conversation.
Rose -> Dave: Rose says 18 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Rose says ~66% less than Dave during conversation.
Rose -> Jade: Rose says 165 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Rose says ~17% less than Jade during conversation.
Rose -> Kanaya: Rose says 230 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Rose says ~25% less than Kanaya during conversation.
Jade says 427 total words of dialogue. She averages 142.3 words per pesterlog/conversation across 3 pesterlogs/conversations. She also monologues(?) 71 words, and writes 43 words.
Jade -> John: Jade says 189 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Jade says ~3% more than John during conversation.
Jade -> Rose: Jade says 198 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Jade says 20% more than Rose during conversation.
Jade -> Karkat: Jade says 40 words total, all 1 pesterlog.
Jade says ~18% more than Karkat during conversation.
She writes 27 words to WV, and 26 to PM.
Nanna says 114 words to John. She says ~21 more words than him.
Karkat says 49 words to Jade. He talks ~23% more than her.
Tavros says 190 words to Dave. He talks ~66% less than him.
Kanaya says 307 words to Rose. She talks ~34% more than her.
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Page 2659 isnāt technically part of Act 2 OR Act 3, but for the sake of completion, I think Iām obligated to say that Nannasprite writes 285 words to John.
Rose takes the lead in act 2, with a little over 18,000 words spoken and almost 3,000 words written.
[Act 1][Act 3]
There are 10736 words spoken/written by characters in Act 2, spread between 47 pesterlogs, 176 commands, 1 Serious Business Conversation, 2 notes, 1 comic, 4 GameFAQ entries, and 1 blog entry. (plus 910 words from repeated pesterlogs).
The average pesterlog length is 156.8 words, with the longest at 533 words and the shortest at 9 words.
The most developed relationship is John and Rose again, with 24 pesterlogs and 1813 words between them.
The least developed relationship is Dave and Jade, with only 1 pesterlog and 353 words between them.
The most unbalanced relationship is John and the exposition fairy Nannasprite, with Nannasprite talking almost 3 times (2.92) as much as John.
The most unbalanced relationship among players is still John and Dave, with Dave talking a little over twice (2.03) as much as John.
The most balanced relationship is Rose and Jade with Rose only talking 13.2% more than Jade.
Graphs and breakdown under the cut!
Note: a conversation (as opposed to a pesterlog) lasts until at least one of the participants signs out of pesterchum.
Note the second: I only counted written words that were A) written to someone (even just āthe internetā) and B) actually in the comic (no sbahj or character blogs for you)
John says, on average, ~41% less than his friends during conversation.
Rose says ~21% more than her friends during conversation.
Dave says ~69% more than his friends during conversation.
Jade says ~21% less than her friends during conversation.
Nannasprite says ~192% more than John during conversation.
John says 1696 total words of dialogue. He averages 56.53 words per pesterlog across 30 pesterlogs and 339.2 per conversation across 5 conversations.
John ->Rose: John says 656 words total, averaging 36.4 words per pesterlog across 18 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Johnās minimum (greater than 0) contribution to a pesterlog with Rose is 2 words, and his maximum is 92.
John says ~43% less than Rose during conversation.
John ->Dave: John says 380 words total, averaging at 126.7 words per pesterlog across 3 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Johnās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with Dave is 94 words, and his maximum is 172.
John says ~51% less than Dave during conversation.
John ->Jade: John says 444 words total, averaging 222 words per pesterlog/conversation across 2 pesterlogs/conversations.
Johnās minimum contribution to a pesterlog/conversation with Jade is 201 words, and his maximum is 243.
John says ~37% more than Jade during conversation.
John ->Nannasprite: John says 216 words total, averaging 30.9 words per pesterlog across 7 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Johnās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with Nannasprite is 1 word, and his maximum is 71.
John says ~66% less than Nannasprite during conversation.
Rose says 1833 total words of dialogue. She averages 67.9 words per pesterlog across 27 pesterlogs and 611 per conversation across 3 conversations.
Rose->John: Rose says 1157 words total, averaging 50.3 words per pesterlog across 23 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Roseās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John is 4 words, and her maximum is 200.
Rose says ~76% more than John during conversation.
Rose ->Dave: Rose says 393 words total, averaging at 131 words per pesterlog across 3 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Roseās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with Dave is 113 words, and her maximum is 148.
Rose only says ~35% less than Dave during conversation.
Rose ->Jade: Rose says 283 words total, in 1 pesterlog.
Rose says ~13% more than jade during conversation.
She also writes 2975 words across 4 GameFAQ entries at 743.75 words per entry. The longest is 1087 words, and the shortest is 404 words.
Dave says 1571 total words or dialogue. He averages 174.6 words per pesterlog across 9 pesterlogs and 523.7 per conversation across 3 conversations.
Dave->John: Dave says 771 words total, averaging 154.2 words per pesterlog across 5 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Daveās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John is 12 words, and his maximum is 307.
Dave says ~103% more than John during conversation.
Dave ->Rose: Dave says 604 words total, averaging at 201.3 words per pesterlog across 3 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Daveās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with Rose is 185 words, and his maximum is 210.
Dave says ~54% more than Rose during conversation.
Dave ->Jade: Dave says 196 words total, in 1 pesterlog.
Dave says ~24% more than Jade during conversations.
He also writes 136 words in his blog, and says 1 word out loud to the Rambunctious Crow.
Jade says 730 total words of dialogue. She averages 182.5 words per pesterlog/conversation across 4 pesterlogs/conversations.
Jade->John: Jade says 323 words total, averaging 161.5 words per pesterlog/conversation across 2 pesterlogs/conversations.
Jadeās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John is 126 words, and her maximum is 197.
Jade says ~27% less than John during conversation.
Jade ->Rose: Jade says 250 words total, in 1 pesterlog.
Jade says ~12% less than Rose during conversation.
Jade ->Dave: Jade says 157 words total, in 1 pesterlog.
Jade says ~20% less than Dave during conversation.
Nannasprite says 630 total words of dialogue, all to John. She averages 70 words per pesterlog across 9 pesterlogs, all 1 conversation.
Nannaspriteās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John is 7 words, and her maximum is 174.
Nanna says ~192% more than John during conversation.
Dad says 45 words to John in a note.
Bro says 13 words to Dave in a note and 74 in a comic, for a total of 87.
fedorafreak says 27 words in 1 Serious Business Conversation.
wellPressedAttire says 24 words in 1 Serious Business Conversation.
officeurchin1280 says 9 words in 1 Serious Business Conversation.
grayslacks66 says 5 words in 1 Serious Business Conversation.
WV says 967 words to John. He averages 5.5 words per command across 176 commands.
Spoilers: The one who speaks the most in act 1 is John. Itās John. Shocking, I know. But hereās some statistics anyway:
There are 3258 words spoken/written by characters in Act 1, spread between 28 pesterlogs, 1 Serious Business Conversation, and 1 note from Dad (plus 13 words from repeated pesterlogs).
The average pesterlog length is only 113 words, with the longest at 516 words and the shortest at 2 words.
The most developed relationship is John and Rose, with 23 pesterlogs and 1734 words between the two of them.
The least developed relationship is John and Jade, with only 2 pesterlogs and 139.
The most unbalanced relationship is John and Dave, with Dave talking almost twice as much (1.9) as John.
The most balanced relationship is John and Jade with John talking only ~7% more than Jade.
Graphs and breakdown under the cut!
Note: a conversation (as opposed to a pesterlog) lasts until at least one of the participants signs out of pesterchum.
John says, on average, ~43% less than his friends during conversation.
Rose says ~75% more than John during conversation.
Dave says ~90% more than John during conversation.
Jade says ~7% less than John during conversation.
John says 1143 words total. He averages 45.7 words per pesterlog across 25 pesterlogs and 163.3 per conversation across 7 conversations.
John ->Rose: John says 630 words total, averaging 33.2 words per pesterlog across 19 pesterlogs and 210 words per conversation across 3 conversations.
Johnās minimum (greater than 0) contribution to a pesterlog with Rose was 2 words, and his maximum was 89.
Johnās minimum contribution to a conversation with Rose was 46 and his maximum was 509.
John ->Dave: John says 441 words total, averaging at 88.2 words per pesterlog across 5 pesterlogs and 147 per conversation across 3 conversations.
Johnās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with Dave was 21 words, and his maximum was 131.
Johnās minimum contribution to a conversation with Dave was 81 and his maximum was 229.
John ->Jade: John says 72 words total, in only 1 pesterlog.
Rose says 1104 words total, all to John. She averages 50.2 words per pesterlog across 22 pesterlogs and 368 per conversation across 3 conversations.
Roseās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John was 1 word, and her maximum was 157.
Roseās minimum contribution to a conversation with John was 74 words, and her maximum was 949.
Dave says 839 words total, also all to John. He averages 1677.8 per pesterlog across 5 pesterlogs and 279.7 per conversation across 3 conversations.
Daveās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John was 23 words, and his maximum was 259.Ā
Daveās minimum contribution to a conversation with John was 235 words, and his maximum was 345.
Jade says 67 words still to John (crazy, I know). She averages 33.5 words per pesterlog/conversation across 2 pesterlogs/conversations.
Jadeās minimum contribution to a pesterlog with John was 15 word, and her maximum was 52.
Dad writes 9 words to John in a note.
grayslacks66 says 58 words in the Serious Business Conversation.
wellPressedAttire says 30 words in the Serious Business Conversation.
officeurchin1280 says 4 words in the Serious Business Conversation.
2busy4this says 4 words in the Serious Business Conversation.
just a heads up that Iāve got some life stuff going on right now and all my current requests are for extremely long term stuff like āhow many panels does each character appear inā so things might be a little slow for a while. but if anyone has any requests that donāt include every single character, Iād be happy to do a few of those to fill the void.
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Homestuck Deaths Part 3: The One With the Actual Statistics
There are 211 deaths of named characters in Homestuck, plus however many aradiabots and ghosts died.
The only characters who never die in any form are PM, Serenity, Casey, GCat (Ambiguous ending for sprites and ghosts notwithstanding), and possibly Squarewave, Sawtooth, Vodka Mutiny, and Liāl Seb. And Janeās dad, depending on whether you consider him a version of Johnās dad or not.
On average, each character dies about 2.37 times.
The main 22 players, however, die an average ofĀ 5.18 times each.
Also fun fact: 16 people get decapitated in Homestuck, and only 2 of them are Dirk. The other 14 are: Jack Noir (2), Hegemonic Brute (2), Diamonds Droog (1), Crowbar (1), Sawbuck (2), Black King (1), White King (1), Aimless Renegade (1), Violent J of ICP (1), Spidermom (1), and Hussiebot (1).
actually no, because 'dream phantomā was the term I was using for when a living person died while dreaming in a dream bubble. I only singled those deaths out because I was pretty on the fence over whether dying in a dream even counted as actual death, even if that dream DID take place in a physical location. Dreamselves are actual flesh and blood people who die and leave a corpse behind, so I just counted them as regular old deaths.
Hey, on that unrequited cruch thing, I think you forgot how eridan had a crush on nepeta and actually asked her out but nepeta ended up refusing!
Youāre right, I did! Iām not sure why, I know exactly where he says that, I guess I was just distracted. Thanks for telling me, I changed the list and the charts. Canāt do anything about the animation though.
These letters, combined with Roseās final GameFAQ entry (238 words), are all the words written or spoken by characters in the pages between acts 4 and 5. So the total non-narration word count between the Kid arc and the Troll arc is 1025.
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The Condesce -> Helmsman (she was āenamored of himā)*
Bonus leprechaun romance:*
Itchy/Die (horseshoe pot of gold)
Clover/Doze (rainbow red balloon)
Fin/Trace (heart diamond)
Crowbar/Cans (moon star)
Clover -> Spades (unknown)
Clover -> Caliborn (unknown)
Clover -> Caliborn (star heart horseshoe)
Lil Seb -> Clover (heart clover)
*Not in the charts because they werenāt explicitly romantic enough, or were most likely a joke. The ones between players are in the little animation tho
okay so i got requests for this one, and then dropped off the face of the planet because it took me 78 years to finish. So without further ado:
There are 21 confirmed and 52 teased <3 relationships, 6 confirmed and 12 teased <3< relationships, 7 confirmed and 2 teased <> relationships, 4 confirmed and 6 teased o8< relationships, and 6 confirmed and 8 teased relationships that arenāt in one specified quadrant.
Karkat wins the āmost loveableā award, having been in relationships with 3 different people (<> with Gamzee, o8< with Jade, unknown with Dave) and been crushed on/flirted with by no less than 7 different people (<3 from Nepeta, Eridan, Cronus, Meenah, Davepetasprite, o8< from Kanaya, and Something with Terezi)
Eridan manages to beat even Cronus for āMost desperateā with 9 unrequited Crushes.
Finally, (Vriska) wins āmost broken-heartedā with 6 different relationships that are now over. Vriska only had 4 relationships.
All of these relationships are listed in the long version, here.