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Welcome to our first ever Leroux Book Club book! This month we are starting with one of Leroux's most famous books:
Le MystĆØre de la chambre jaune // The Mystery of the Yellow Room
Le MystĆØre de la chambre jaune was first published Sept 7-Nov 30 1907 as a serial in L'Illustration and is the first book in Leroux's Rouletabille mystery series.
It was first published as a novel in 1908 and first translated into english the same year by an unknown translator. It was also translated into english in 2009 by Jean-Marc Lofficier and Randy Lofficier with the title: Rouletabille and The Mystery of the Yellow Room.
You can find copies of both the french and english on Project Gutenberg:
I have finished the book and have some thoughts to share!
I'll do these posts divided into two sections, the beginning will be spoiler free and then below the cut I'll put the spoilers, especially since so many of Leroux's books are mysteries.
Spoiler Free Thoughts
The edition that I read was part of the set I thrifted, which was published in Switzerland in the 1960s. It has illustrations which I'll share below the spoiler cut as well.
I really liked the book! I used to read a ton of murder mysteries, to the point that I started getting annoyed with them because I was figuring out what would happen too early or they all started to feel samey, but I found this one to be pretty fun and took an approach that was familiar but not too worn in.
I really appreciated the humanness of the characters and the complexity of the situation. Leroux also has a really cheeky sense of humour and that definitely showed up in this. However, I do still think there were some pacing issues and some things that were very long and explainy. It's hard to say if this is due to it originally being a serial, but at times it felt like there were a lot of explanations for things without anything happening and then everything happening all at once.
Spoiler Thoughts
The book opens in a similar way to phantom, with the narrator asking us to remember some crazy affair and how we are about to hear the full story and learn first hand what really happened all those years ago. I have a feeling this is going to be a pattern of his...
Rouletabille is a fun character, he's an 18 year old genius reporter who somehow manages to charm his way into a crime scene by telling them he's a theatre critic. I thought this was a fun nod to Leroux's work as a theatre critic and also his penchant for pretending to be an anthropologist in order to interview people in jail and share their stories. He even managed to clear a few names this way, and I totally see some of the self insert bits in Rouletabille.
One of the things I loved was how Leroux mentions both Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes and Edgar Allen Poe's The Murders in the Rue Morgue, both authors he's talked about loving. It makes it even funnier in context as the narrator is roasting police detectives, complaining about how everyone now thinks they can solve mysteries like Sherlock Holmes and it's making the police worse at their jobs XD
And of course the incompetency of the police continues throughout, with the narrator and likely Leroux reminding us how many innocents have been thrown in jail as a result.
I also liked how it ended with "justice" but not in the arrest and jail kind of ending but with a more complex situation. The bit where Rouletabille lets him escape and talks about how his justice is different from the way the legal system might see justice is really interesting and also takes into account more what Mathilde would have wanted and preserving some of her dignity in the process.
And those are my thoughts from the first book! I'll be back on the 1st to announce next month's book, but in the meantime I'd love to hear your thoughts as well!
Today I want to talk about a fun book detail from Phantom. The passage in question is from the masked ball chapter:
This ball was an exceptional celebration, given before shrovetide, in honour of the birthday of a renowned illustrator of the festivities of yesteryear, an emulator of Gavarni, whose pencil had immortalized the āchicardsā and the decent of the Courtille. Thus, it must have had a more joyful, nosier, and more bohemian atmosphere than the ordinary masked balls. Many artists were in attendance, followed by a whole accompaniment of models and art students who, around midnight, began to make a huge racket.
Some of the details about the artists were cut from the de mattos translation. Iām assuming this was because they are more specifically french cultural details and references that de mattos or the publisher thought wouldnāt have been obvious to anglophone readers without context. But they are really fun details, so I am going to give them the footnote they deserve (honestly this was a whole can of worms that I was not expecting so please come on this wild ride with me).
In 1878, there was an exhibition of his work at the 1878 World Fair/Universal Exposition, which Victor Hugo was the president of. February 1878 was also Daumierās 70th birthday and there were several articles in the news discussing his work and contributions to French art.
Source: Gallica/BNF
This article was published on Jan 5, 1878 in LāIllustration (coincidentally also the magazine where Leroux would later publish The Mystery of the Yellow Room). It talks about his connections to Gavarni, shares a quote from Balzac comparing him to Michelangelo, and details his love of boating and how he eventually lost his sight.
A series of different characters emerged at this time, each with their own associations and characteristic costume. Chicard was considered to be a very wild and expressive merchant, while Pritchard was more serious. There was also Queen Pomare and Mogador, and the rival of Chicard, Balochard. People began to dress as these characters and throw large parties where they would dance and parade in wild, dramatic, and often crude ways under the anonymity of their costumes.
In 1842 both Gavarni and Daumier illustrated a book called Physiologie du chicard which documents the idiosyncrasies of this character along with caricatures.
Can of Worms 2: What is the decent of the Courtille?
The āDescente de la Courtilleā is essentially a parade that took place in Paris in the mid 19th century that was similar to Mardi Gras or Brazilian Carnival. On Ash Wednesday, people would get drunk and dress up in costumes and then parade from the city gates of Paris down through the streets to Place de l'HĆ“tel-de-Ville.
The first decent was started by the Cirque Moderne in 1822, when they paraded into the city after all the cafes and dance halls closed on Ash Wednesday and their carnival was all packed up. Newspapers and personal accounts from the time describe the event as pure chaos.
Welcome to our first ever Leroux Book Club book! This month we are starting with one of Leroux's most famous books:
Le MystĆØre de la chambre jaune // The Mystery of the Yellow Room
Le MystĆØre de la chambre jaune was first published Sept 7-Nov 30 1907 as a serial in L'Illustration and is the first book in Leroux's Rouletabille mystery series.
It was first published as a novel in 1908 and first translated into english the same year by an unknown translator. It was also translated into english in 2009 by Jean-Marc Lofficier and Randy Lofficier with the title: Rouletabille and The Mystery of the Yellow Room.
You can find copies of both the french and english on Project Gutenberg:
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I've tried to start a final stream recap a dozen times and can't seem to find the words, largely because it was so overwhelming and special it feels almost too intimate to talk about it.
In the meantime, I DO want to display (with permission) all the incredible art that people made because it deserves to be seen!! (There were also gifs and edits that I'd feel weird about reposting, but their creators should definitely share them if they are so inclined!!!)
Welcome to our first ever Leroux Book Club book! This month we are starting with one of Leroux's most famous books:
Le MystĆØre de la chambre jaune // The Mystery of the Yellow Room
Le MystĆØre de la chambre jaune was first published Sept 7-Nov 30 1907 as a serial in L'Illustration and is the first book in Leroux's Rouletabille mystery series.
It was first published as a novel in 1908 and first translated into english the same year by an unknown translator. It was also translated into english in 2009 by Jean-Marc Lofficier and Randy Lofficier with the title: Rouletabille and The Mystery of the Yellow Room.
You can find copies of both the french and english on Project Gutenberg:
@whatyouwill: uwe is like if you gave one actor a different script and he acted and sang his heart out but everyone else is doing an entirely different show
@GlassPrism: Also supposedly there were so few seats sold during his short run that his fan club started filling in seats, and that's who is clapping after the title song. They are NOT clapping to cheer on the Christine, they are clapping bc Uwe was about to start MOTN
@Ravens_Reproach: I love that there are two languages present and neither are English [there were Chinese subtitles on this German stream]
@warpweight: the hardcoded subs make me so nostalgic for watching old bootleg dvds on my friend's family's dvd player in like 2001 when it was so exciting to see a MOVIE on a DISC
@Luukfy: I wasn't aware Uwe had a fanclub! Is he big in the German mosicals scene, or famous from cinema or someting else? @GlassPrism: He is HUGE in German musical theater
@paper-faces: im so excited to find out if i love him or hate it, the prediction is hate given the re views. but i do like Choices phantoms. but it sounds like this might be a different Choices phantom then we mean LOL
film rec from Gnoss! @les-gnossiennes-fantomatiques: it's a david lean movie from 1949 called the passionate friends, our boy claude raines is also in it @les__gnossiennes: david lean went through a period where all he did was make movies about middle aged women in unhappy marriages who wanna run off with a posh tall man who makes them think about sex @les__gnossiennes: but halfway through I had to pause bc i was like "this is so much phantom thread aura" but anyway!!
@wheel-of-fish: full orchestra my beloved
@from-aldebaran I have determined these subtitles actually say "Let's receive thy joyous God"
a fact of the day from Celina: the blackface during Hannibal in the show was taken out around 2017
@warpweight: it's pronounced "Ewwww" and then you have to do a silent gag. but only if you're talking about him in this role
@emotionalmotionsicknessxx: she uwe on my kroger
@les__gnossiennes: imagine a whole corporate retreat being held hostage by this man
@whatyouwill: iirc uwe also suffers from the too tight german pants as well @haunted-hideaway: Does he suffer? Or does he enjoy every moment.
@warpweight: the seamstress always makes me think of iconic fanfiction Positions where she's like "what the fuck are you doing to your stockings ms daae" and she's like Ummm nothing. I forget. I have to go
@DanyGiryy: Die spores hahahaah
@warpweight: he sounds like he is rolling a small toy around in his mouth @funeral_lilies: he sounds like an evil magistrate @Ravens_Reproach: composer hand
@GlassPrism: Now imagine that voice coming out of Gerard Butler's face because Uwe did the German dub for the 2004 movie @GlassPrism: Supposedly the 2004 film is why Uwe took the role of the Phantom. He had been asked a lot but always turned it down [lost the rest of message, but he was inspired by Gerard Butler's take on the role]
@Luukfy: damn he sounds so seductive @Zhenyus: Woah so much pervert mist
@haunted-hideaway: The mist is London pea soup circa 1895
@turteltee: SANG MEINE ENGEL SANG
@faceofbiest: Uwe confounds me cuz he's 5'10 but anytime he's standfing with other men for concerts he's the shortest of the bunch but yeah he's giving short king @haunted-hideaway: The Tom Cruise vibe: short, haunted, a little crazy @opera-ghost: is that why he's crazy bc he has like a level of insanity that's disproportionate to his body size
@after-perfect: Did he just spook himself?
@paper_faces: his heavy ass 40s tv make up is sending me @kyannite: they just let him wreak havoc in sephora
@Samwise88: the dude's a living Egon Schiele painting
@warpweight: he's always kind of also giving a little bit of like... looking at the camera and saying "oop! did i do that!" like stop being coy. pop your circle lens out it's not cute in casual wear @wheel-of-fish: warp he fully breaks the fourth wall in final lair
@paper_faces: i love this christine so far. her entire vibe. very expressive. shes clearly entranced from him and was before he even sung in the dressing room
@opera-ghost: i think my ventriloquist dummy is possessed
@GlassPrism: So I think Uwe interpreted Gerik as wanting sex all the time, hence why he reaches for Christine's leg here
@wismoth: I have seen a good crawl in weeks this man better be good about it
@haunted-hideaway: Are we sure he can crawl @Ravens_Reproach: that was a scoot at best @wismoth: UWE YOURE A CREEPY MAN YOU COULD AT LEAST CREEPY CRAWL.
@lonlonranching: you twist him too much and he literally comes to life
@-Aldebaran-: Modern poto au Five Nights at Erik's
@warpweight: uwe is a haunted doll on facebook marketplace that the seller claims has taken real lives. thiago is a value village barbie still in the box. never opened or played with and yet also completely devoid of value
@turteltee: oh fun fact: it's realy hard to native english speakers to differentiate between U and Ć. So I have been practice with Uwe's name and Scwhul (Gay) and SchwĆ¼l (Humid) @faceofbiest: also fun fact "Kroger" means "tavern-owner/inn-keeper"
@Luukfy: he sounds so particularly threatening in this one, especially when he is more soft spoken
[the shadow behind the \o/ballet\o/] @GlassPrism: Keep in mind that's usually a dancer, not the actual actor @GlassPrism: Yeah the actor is up high somewhere or getting ready to be put in the Angel
@paper_faces: carlotta i feel like a lot of this production has been low energy and i keep wondering if its cuz its a different language but 1. ive seen german boots before and 2. idk idk @GlassPrism: They probably looked out and saw half the audience was the Uwe fanclub paper_faces: LMFAO omfg... thats not funny bc its probably true @GlassPrism: Honestly yeah bc I remember Operafantomet saying that the theater was pretty empty when Uwe was on but the minute an understudy/replacement was announced, it was PACKED
@-Aldebaran-: His hair looks like one of those very ancient cloth towel dispensers in equally ancient reststops, where the towel is just an infinite loop that keeps recycling
@paper_faces: oh shit rare grape spotted this is awesome @faceofbeast: he is more grape than man lilles @ChristineSoCal: fruit of the loom guy @paper_faces: @lillies the giant blue guy up front. hes bacchus the (roman?) god of wine i think
@carlottadefender: is this star princess really pale or just washed out by the light [photo courtesy Celina:]
@opera-ghost: me on my clown jet:
@opera-ghost look at my pilot dog im gonna die
@64feet: yeah i dont know what was up with the german wishing dresses but theyre all super flat behind @-Aldebaran-: It bustled away
@turteltee: ES IST VERRUCKT @turtletee: same
@Ravens_Reproach: This Christine is ready to bolt. It's 4:50 and she has reservations at the crypt at 5.
Stream film recs include: Repo! the genetic opera; The passionate friends (1949)
@maroogaly: It's illegal to be that beautiful @-Aldebaran-: Her face is so classic...classical somehow @dimmedghosts2: she does not know what an iphone is @opera-ghost: she's a weeping angel
[the filmer breathing sounds] @-Aldebaran-: Someone is wheezing from floating face down across the ocean [a forever relevant @muirin007 childhood fic reference]
@Firedragon20: angel of farter @TheEggSaysTune: neither @turteltee: it's pretty much the same as English. Hey are you my daddy? nah wait. no. you're just the guy in my mirror.
@paper_faces: this phantom makes me unironically uncomfortable so i guess hes doing his job?
@paper_faces: pingi sounds different! @opera-ghost: he has a cold @-Aldebaran-: A cold what
@maroogaly: She's like every beautiful woman I've ever met lusting over a mid virgin nerd
Ravens_Reproach: I love that he makes Christine dom in his self insert fanfic
@maroogaly: We are ovulating in this Chilis tonight
@maroogaly: Too many cycles have synchronized we can't have bad phantoms when we're ovulating it turns us into terrible humans
oh! how he yanks her by the hand when she feels his mask through the hood for the first time!
@paper_faces: MEIN LIEBE
@lit-ari-ture: Wait.....so do I actually dislike Uwe? lol
@paper_faces: i was so into it until he yelled slightly BEFORE she grabbed the mask/wig I CANT @-Aldebaran-: Premature unmasking is not uncommon in Phantoms of this age
a lot of people commenting after PONR on how Uwe is not as bad as they remembered him to be
@Firedragon20: HE LOOKED AT US DIRECTLY
@beyond-this-illusion: Do the Germans believe in soaking their Raoul???
@marumotto: He really said "German Jim Halpert" and looked at the campera
@haunted-hideaway: I like it when Raoul struggles and it's not even some kind of kink thing. I just like seeing him getting strangled. @paper_faces: haunted no need to explain to us of all people
@Ravens_Reproach: What he lacks in height he makes up for in rudeness
@Firedragon20: the shorter you are the more freakier you get I know from experience
@turteltee: get on the floor you little freak
@Luukfy: backing away scared of her!!! yess, get him christine!
@lit-ari-ture: It's giving Rumpelstiltskin?
@kyannite: this christine is the meme where the guy is pinned up against the fence [also an amazing phanart by @platycerium-bifurcatum, thank you @lizzie-boredom for finding it!] [Upd. there's one more by @polariie!]
@Forestscribe4: looks like she dug him out of the garden. i hug my potatoes too
@turteltee: here's the question. Is Uwe's phantom able to do Beneath the Moonless Sky?
@dimmedghosts2: he is a cockroach that refuses to die
@after-perfect: I don't necessarily agree with all his choices, but I can see what he was going for with a guy who never really learned how to human
@Luukfy: i thought he was really good! not my headcanon interpretation, but i loved this as a take on the role
@opera-ghost: i thought he was perfect and i agree with every choice he made. in fact he should have made more choices. i believe in uwe kroger's right to choose
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So...recently I (sort of accidentally) thrifted a whole pile of Leroux's books that I've been wanting to read for ages, and I thought it would be really cool to share them with people and start a kind of book club!
On the first of each month (starting this June) I'll make a post announcing the book for the month with links to public domain copies and translations into English if they exist. (Please feel free to reblog with links to other languages if you have them!)
Just reblog the month's post (I'll keep it pinned) with your thoughts and and I'll do the same when I'm done! I'm super interested in what everyone thinks, and of course if you have a cool edition or illustrated version, definitely share pics!
@wheel-of-fish graciously provided me with these photos of a prop program for Il Muto. I was looking at the page on the left and noticed what looked like a faded stamp in the right corner.
It was vaguely familiar and made me think of the stamps that the french archives use to mark their scans. And since we know that phantom has used actual archival material to make their props in the past, I figured down once more to the BnF we go!
Aaaand sure enough!
There it is! Stamp and all! It's a real advertisement from June 6, 1867.
Thank you so much fish for letting me share these pictures! If anyone else has any phantom props with material like this, and you want me to go poking around in the archives to see if I can find their origins let me know!
(also if you missed it, on the Il Muto side of the program, they gave Maria in universe credit as the designer of Il Muto)
Thiago Arancam, Giulia Nadruz & Fred Silveira (SĆ£o Paulo 2019)
Check out the better notes located here from @marumotto
Stream notes dedicated to @greenstripedcat
You know it's gonna be good when @wheel-of-fish starts us off with this:
@from-aldebaran: He is handsome, I'll give him that, in a Madame Tussaud kind of way
@eaggesalat: is his talent being passive?
Mirror Entrance:
- @or-what-you-will: phantom of the reverb
- @dimmedghosts: he is the director of a public school
- @after-perfect: The voice echoing through the train station telling you absolutely nothing about which platform you should be on
- @ravens-repine: Drive thru ass voice
- @warpweight: he's giving TTC garbled stop speaker. he's giving fucked up fast food drive through speaker
Title Song:
whatyouwill: he's giving "my mom made me do the school play"
warpweight: the petulant 14 year old pissed off that he got a big role in the play because he's like "i want to go play FIFAAAA this is GAY"
@wismoth: ist giving "yes i can hit notes for technical reasons but I fuckin hate that I'm here so I'll do it but no one's gonna like it"
paper_faces: is he gonnaā¦ move? whatyouwill: paper_faces no
@kyannnite: his physicality is giving Less Than Nothing
dimmedghosts: hes the guy that didnt do anything for the group project except say thanks at the end
wismoth: not even a modicum of hand
@almostemilyy: she's doing remarkably well at making chemistry with white bread
Ravens_Reproach: Broken Disney animatronic
almostemily: how is he giving NEGATIVE hand
kyannite: LACKLUSTER CAPE SWISH
warpweight: "THIS IS MY MATTRESS ON THE FLOOR I WANNA HAVE SEX ON OR WHATEVER. FUCK THIS"
kyannite: i half expect to look up and he has sweatpants and jordans on
wismoth: hes giving "I sprayeda lil axe in here to make it smell good. sorry."
MOTN:
Ravens_Reproach: He's giving me Death of a Salesman and I want to be the Salesman
dimmedghosts: he looks like a halloween decoration on sale
@mysticaldesign: no because why does he literally look like he's from one of the high school productions on youtube where you're like "wow he's talented for a 14 year old just a bit awkward"
@marumotto: only portcullis without a standing ovation
leeringsatyrs: He's so uninvested
wheel-of-fish: ok that was hand I guess lit-ari-ture: Nice hand?
after-perfect: Had to go get my laundry; I didn't miss Thiago having an Actual Emotion, did I?
His stupid little walk after Christine faints:
@litloverscorsetlaces: It's giving bare minimum lol.
@stephistopheles: "THERE SHE FUCKING GOES."
warpweight: WHAT CAN YA DO
after-perfect: That is a man who has done this scene 20 000 times and is Over It
motelpearl: honk shoo honk shoo
almostemily: I don't even want to see him crawl. he's negative sexy.
@lizzie-boredom: Some phantoms would have vape flavors named after them. This guy has a flavor of Robitussin
I Remember/STYDI:
warpweight: if he had heelys hed just be sliiiiidin on by
@haunted-hideaway: This phantom is the guy who decorates his room with an air mattress, a tv that sits on the box it came in and a camping chair. bam. doine.
Mask Removal Reactions (so bad we watched it twice):
Lizzie_Boredom: Amazing he didn't bother to catch her when she fainted. Because she's sure af carrying this whole show. Drum kick.
mysticaldesign: (worms slowly over)
TheEggSaysTuneAGAIN: 30 minutes later
wismoth: this crawl doesn't even work on me (<--- that's crazy coming from moth)
opera-ghost: yesss whatever rhythm you want king
warpweight: it's like his whole body has dentist mouth freezing
-Aldebaran-: Come we must slowly and blandly return
@flora-gray: That was such an "Eh, never mind"
Buquet/Notes:
Flora-Gray: Finally, someone with some rizz: Joseph Buquet
wheel-of-fish: his notes are written on the back of a napkin
warpweight: his dull ass Sent from my iPad ass emails
kyannite: this erik owns a radioshack and then gets really into crypto when it goes under
@mirrorbride: sent from my LG smart fridge
Stephistopheles: Even if the performance falls flat, the chat never does
dimmedghosts: this phantom bought NFTs
kyannite: this phantom uses yahoo lets be real
almostemily: hotmail? more like hotmale. not thiago tho
haunted-hideaway: This phantom is still using Alta Vista
Lizzie_Boredom: This phantom loves 2 1/2 men
dimmedghosts: yknow what this phantom LOVES using ai to "compose" music
Lizzie_Boredom: AskJeeves
@motelpearl: he reminds me of these dreams i have where im trying to walk but my legs just move torturously slow
Stephistopheles: He has less charisma than the hat stand
maroogaly: you can almost hear that at one time he might have given the vaguest of fucks. A lacroix of fucks, if you will
kyannite: thiago has less energy than the little robot dogs they used to sell to kids in the 2010s
Il Muto:
warpweight: it's like he's an insect trapped in tree sap. but instead of
opera-ghost: he lingers like a head cold
lit-ari-ture: Is it wild that I'm already wondering what next week's stream will be? @glassprism: But I have 5 other boots of him!
after-perfect: Thiago marathon would be a great insomnia cure
whatyouwill: return of the reverb
paper_faces: guys im not gonna lie im actually really bored i didnt know it was possible to feel this way about this production
dimmedghosts: same Rachel almostemily: I am bored too lol, chat is fun tho
mysticaldesign: i blame thiago. i imagine he sucks out the energy from everyone else, vampire style
GlassPrism: Thiago is proof that a person can have negative energy
-Aldebaran-: Phantom of the Meh
opera-ghost: ha ha. this amuses me. ah ha
justsilence: the laughā¦ā¦ā¦ that's how my students laugh when i try to tell a joke in class
Stephistopheles: Ah. Ah ha ha. Ha. Haha.
@carlottadefender: I kind of feel bad for the filmer. imagine going to all the trouble to record a whole boot and your phantom has about as much substance as wonderbread
Lizzie_Boredom: \o/ or whatever
AIAOY:
paper_faces: omfg am i finally gonna feel an emotion
GlassPrism: See this is a boot where you're guaranteed to appreciate Raoul
lit-ari-ture: Is the first time I'm rooting for Raoul?
Ravens_Reproach: You don't understand Raoul. He's so boring, I can't go back!
mysticaldesign: the darkness she's so scared of is the black void that is thiago's charisma
kyannite: i gave you my boredomā¦
-Aldebaran-: And in this labyrinth where night is bland
kyannite: she's everythingā¦ thiago's not even ken
lit-ari-ture: "Those pleading eyes that both threatened and were bored."
-Aldebaran-: Meanwhile Thiago is asleep in the angel
carlottadefender: It's a little funny that Thiago throwing a temper tantrum and getting his alternate fired is more in character as the Phantom than anything he's done on stage
warpweight: maybe we'll get lucky and he'll fall
dimmedghosts: thiago is probably vaping behind the angel
opera-ghost: he's up there tweeting about how he's the first phantom that ever had a harness in the angel
lit-ari-ture: Just give us a decent kiss and we're with you Raoul
opera-ghost: i wish he'd do a line lowkey like maybe he'd give us something
motelpearl: hes doing every downer simultaneously
lit-ari-ture: Order your fine horses, please save me from the bore
Reprise:
wheel-of-fish: the spotlight comes on and he's on his phone
warpweight: i gave you my nothingā¦. made your none take winggggg
justsilence: he's just like standing man emoji-ing his way through this my god
@backlitmademoiselle: this is some ben crawford without some og fans in the audience energy :(((
whatyouwill: he's not growling at them he's growling because he's annoyed he has to be on stage again
Intermission Courtesy of @opera-ghost: Link
wheel-of-fish: oh wow, who all is taking notes paper_faces: @fish youll find out at the end
Back to Strim:
@mirrorbride: why does this stream feel like its at least 90000 years long
@phaptomoftheopera: Iām so scared thinking about how uncunty his red death is gonna be
lit-ari-ture: Deflated codpiece
phaptomoftheopera: anti cunt
Flora-Gray: "Why isn't he sexy" -Aldebaran-: Flora lol "I paid for sexy"
-Aldebaran-: The Red Rash
warpweight: he's like cold leftover rice noodles. oatmeal dried into cement on the bowl. mouthful of flour. PLAIN rice noodles to be clear bc reading that back i was like oh fuck i could fuck those up
Ravens_Reproach: "I'm so glad that boring guy in the walls is gone!"
opera-ghost: sauceless
-Aldebaran-: Society exiled him because he was so dull
Ravens_Reproach: He had a heart that could hold the world but he decided he didn't wanna motelpearl: he had a heart that could hold gary indiana
-Aldebaran-: Even the mannequins on the stairs are asleep
wheel-of-fish: he looks like he's uncomfortable in the costume and trying to adjust
backlitmademoiselle: once in a while he growls & it does not make up for anything else but at least he growls for a sec
warpweight: he's likeā¦. he comes to work one day like "i forgot my nonslips!" and all day you're like It could be today. It could all be over today
after-perfect: Not only did we not miss you, we'd kinda forgotten you existed TBH
Stephistopheles: Ha ha ha ha
Ravens_Reproach: He's actually been here the whole time, he was just too boring to notice
Notes II:
lit-ari-ture: Last person awake by the end of the stream gets to choose the next one? lol
opera-ghost: ari im staying up till 6am so we can stream ted keegan God Bles
Stephistopheles: "Per my last email"
@motelpearl: i had a terrible coworker who stormed out on the last day & said "this is overrated. im going to move to alberta and work at tim hortons" & that is thiagos energy
Stephistopheles: He's giving office manager the week before his retirement
kyannite: this is how i sound replying to my student's 20 emails about something thats in the first paragraph of the syllabus
Ravens_Reproach: giving I'm calling about your opera's extended warranty energy
dimmedghostss: this rik is a landlord
Stephistopheles: He's a telemarketer
Ravens_Reproach: crash out, girl. you deserve it.
Stephistopheles: "Don't make me be on stage with him again"
warpweight: he's representation for people who don't want to come in to work today
motelpearl: i cant even make seepage jokes cause hes so dry
Wishing and onwards idk it was hard to pay attention:
GlassPrism: I mean do we want this Phantom to be daddying?
Stephistopheles: I don't want him to be anything lol
opera-ghost: this phantom is like creepy uncle-ing
warpweight: far from my slumbering gazeā¦ā¦
opera-ghost: team ten feet pole
dimmedghostss: how does she have the energy to perform when her coworker is an actual demon from hell
wheel-of-fish: this is such a good one-woman show
lit-ari-ture: Wandering child so lost, so helpless. Yearning for my blandness.
opera-ghost: opens his coat and asks her if she wants to buy a watch
GlassPrism: Amazing how he sounds bored even here
warpweight: EH SOUNDS LIKE CARTOON FRANKENSTEIN
after-perfect: Tossing fireballs like the kid in back of the class flicking spitballs
wheel-of-fish: no buts haunted-hideaway: I like that fish neither uses her powers for good or evil. she uses them for butts.
Ravens_Reproach: His acting is butt
warpweight: he moves like. if you were real busy in animation school and did not have time to think out a homework assignment before starting it, so you just kind of make a character wobble around and hope it looks like there's some reasons behind why they're doing any motion they are doing
Ravens_Reproach: Mom, come get me. I'm not having fun anymore.
-Aldebaran-: Thiago is a rite of passageā¦.the passage of time
PONR/Final Lair/I Don't Care:
motelpearl: i am NOT ovulating
paper_faces: oh he is on stage now
dimmedghostss: this guy doesnt know where the clit is
Ravens_Reproach: He's given me menopause
warpweight: LIKE HES LIKE "EW I TOUCHED HER"
TheEggSaysTuneAGAIN: chastity belt and all
lit-ari-ture: Doing the absolute least
warpweight: he's gonna sit on this bench like he's at a bus stop i just know it
whatyouwill: imagine her and swm
backlitmademoiselle: she's me against every straight guy i've ever had to workshop a scene with
-Aldebaran-: Thought he was making an acting choice with the shaking hands, but that was just the camera
opera-ghost: yeah why does his body have erectile dysfunction
[THE WORST MASK REMOVAL IVE EVER SEEN - he looks bored then walks off, looks behind him, arms kinda flinging but with no direction, then half ass grabs her]
warpweight: he had to take a call
after-perfect: Oh no, I've been exposed as the Phantom. Oh no.
warpweight: literally he ison the phone with his car insurance rn like "you have the wrong number"
Ravens_Reproach: Love me or somethingā¦
haunted-hideaway: I love how we keep backing up to the most egregious parts instead of the best parts with this boot.
warpweight: FROM BIRTH TO DEATH IT'S JUST A SHRUG
GlassPrism: There's some weird pauses and silence here
-Aldebaran-: Down once more to the dungeon of my mild annoyance
wheel-of-fish: I think he briefly forgot he was performing
lit-ari-ture: We're almost done everyone!
kyannite: oh man you saw my face again. thats supposed to upset me i guess
kyannite: 10 more minutes. only 10 more minutes
lit-ari-ture: He really does sound so constipated sometimes
warpweight: honk shoo ass performance. snork mimimi ass
carlottadefender: the raised voice was maybe a tiny bit of something. first time in recorded history
after-perfect: What's there to rescue her from, Thiago can't be bothered to do anything to her
Ravens_Reproach: Lust does not exist in this man
TheEggSaysTuneAGAIN: salt and peper is too much spice for this guyy
motelpearl: omg he reminds me of how my stepmom puts so much oil on potatoes but no seasoning & undercooks him so theyre like hards and oily and flavourless
warpweight: this faceā¦ which earnedā¦. a mother's shrug and nothing
wheel-of-fish: barb looking sassy back there
Ravens_Reproach: it's in your lack of soul that the true distortion lies
justsilence: your haunted face holds no horror for me now it's in your soul where the true blandness liesā¦
Stephistopheles: Lol He's boring himself
GlassPrism: You can actually feel the energy being drained from the other actors
whatyouwill: dont kiss him christine
GlassPrism: I feel like Thiago thinks pointing is all one needs to do to be acting
wheel-of-fish: point and raarr
Ravens_Reproach: Girl gave everything, he gave limp fish
hamster-: i always love seeing people be disappointed in thiago for the first time
-Aldebaran-: The mob was going to storm the lair but they lost interest
warpweight: HES LIKE "GOOD NOW I CAN GET SOME WORK DONE. FINALLY"
after-perfect: And now he will sit down, cover himself with his cloak, and bore himself to death
dimmedghostss: he doesnt compose warp, he uses AI
carlottadefender: this is about to give "christine I tolerate you"
motelpearl: now he can get back to organizing his greige paint samples
opera-ghost: christine i dont have adverse feelings tooooowardssss youuuu
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ACT I:
Hannibal:
@Stephistopheles: I really don't know when I became such a Carlotta simp lol
-Aldebaran-: `I can think of two reasons Steph
after-perfect: RIP Carlotta you would've loved reporting your employer to OSHA three times a week
@opera-ghost: i would be gentle as a lamb and she could do whatever she wanted with me
On Elephant Shenanigans:
AngelofMusicals87614: I got to imagine at some point in the 40 years Phantom has been around, they had to have done more than just Drink inside that Elephant
-Aldebaran-: Wine Elephant vs Cards Elephant is the new Far Reaching vs Fathering
@warpweight: they are exploring each other's bodies in the elephant
Freckle Meg is in this boot! (and Raoul was 47(!) per Celina)
@wheel-of-fish: OH I FORGOT ABOUT FRECKLE MEG
@or-what-you-will: FRECKLE MEG
backlitmademoiselle: freckle meg :)))))
@forestscribe4: this boot is freckle meg?! she's so beautiful
Mirror Scene / Title Song / MotN:
whatyouwill: he's giving "my mom made me do the school play"
kyannite: come through the mirror is u want 2 i guess. or dont idc
almostemily: how is he giving NEGATIVE hand
Ravens_Reproach: He's giving me Death of a Salesman and I want to be the Salesman
-Aldebaran-: She faints not because the Bride is a mannequin but because she realizes Thiago is
After First Lair:
lit-ari-ture: Since when are we ever EXCITED for the office scenes?
kyannite: never thought i would look forward to buquet
@flora-gray: Finally, someone with some rizz: Joseph Buquet
During Il Muto:
wheel-of-fish: he reminds me of the energy vampire in what we do in the shadows
@litloverscorsetlaces: Was Thiago at least a good colleague?
GlassPrism: He got his own alternate fired
Brazil would show what cast you were getting when you bought tickets So everyone started buying the days the alternate was on He noticed
On the Roof / AIAOY:
Ravens_Reproach: You don't understand Raoul. He's so boring, I can't go back!
Lizzie_Boredom: "I gave you my mind blandly"
Aldebaran-: And in this labyrinth where night is bland
lit-ari-ture: Order your fine horses, please save me from the bore
Intermission:
courtesy of @opera-ghost (and it SLAPS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTm4NXtU514&t=3s
dimmedghosts: ok reading some brazilian reviews and apparently thiago broke a bone in one of the shows, he shouldve fuckinf died instead
Flora-Gray: do you think when he broke that bone he went RARRRRR
opera-ghost: do we know which bone he broke and how
Ravens_Reproach: It was his acting bone
lit-ari-ture: We know he did NOT break a leg
ACT II:
CARNIVALLLL! (Masquerade)
phaptomoftheopera: Iām so scared thinking about how uncunty his red death is gonna be
lit-ari-ture: Deflated codpiece
after-perfect: The red mild illness
Flora-Gray: "Why isn't he sexy"
-Aldebaran-: Society exiled him because he was so dull
motelpearl: he had a heart that could hold gary indiana
NOTES II:
motelpearl: i had a terrible coworker who stormed out on the last day & said "this is overrated. im going to move to alberta and work at tim hortons" & that is thiagos energy
Stephistopheles: He's giving office manager the week before his retirement
Ravens_Reproach: giving I'm calling about your opera's extended warranty energy
warpweight: crazy that when you are acting you can make choices and those choices change how the audience perceives your character and the story that character is in
HUGE if true
-Aldebaran-: Warp he had to say "clever friend" and he hates to lie
Wishing:
kyannite: she is carrying the love triangle like atlas
-Aldebaran-: Okay now here is the payoff, some actual caring and emotional and wonderful talent
Ravens_Reproach: Could the boot just be this scene
TheEggSaysTuneAGAIN: all that work and then nothing the next scene
(My connection started getting funky here unfortunately and missed the rest - Thiago killed my internet and I am seeking financial compensation)
Point of No Return:
warpweight: don't want to say i've been forced to this point by thiago because that makes it sound like i would reject a piangi in any other situation when that is just untrue. he is a baddie. but usually i'm busy politely coverign the foam in my mouth with one hand because of the Basement Tenant so
backlitmademoiselle: she's audrey hepburn against almost every leading man of her career
Unfortunately this is where things cut out, and I had to face the reality of watching this stream alone and I was too weak, but I believe a few others were also taking notes! @paper-faces
This is the fifth post in my phantom cosplay series! Each post will explore a different part of the phantomās suit, some historical fun facts that I learned while researching it, a few mishaps along the way, and tips about how to source pieces yourself. Hopefully they will make things a bit easier for those of you looking to do your own cosplays.
Keeping with the order of getting dressed, Iāve covered the dress shirt, trousers, waistcoat, tailcoat, and now finally we are doing the hats and shoes.
Iām not going to do a post on the cloak because I sort of haphazardly cobbled it together, rather than sourcing it, but you can read about how I did that here.
This post will cover both the fedora and the mausoleum hat, the phantomās boots, and the ring.
Fedora
In act one the phantom wears a fedora. I personally find this to be a fascinating choice of hat because of its political and cultural implications.
In the late 19th century, hats that were acceptable for men to wear with white tie/formal dress were top hats and opera hats (same as a top hat but it collapses for storage). Erik wears a top hat in the book, so the musical choice is a bit more unique and anachronistic.
I got my fedora at H&M. Make sure you measure your head size with the mask on or at least leave some extra room for the mask. I got a medium sized hat, which fit me fine, but then I got home and realized that it absolutely did not fit over the mask, so I had to go back and exchange it for a large.
There are lots of wide brimmed fedoras available from all sorts of places in all sorts of price ranges. I found one at a local antique shop. It didn't have a ribbon, but Iāll probably get one from a craft store and add it. Etsy and eBay both usually have quite a few vintage fedoras as well.
Mausoleum Hat
The phantomās hat in act two is a feathered hat, and itās very dramatic. This is my favourite hat. Itās also a felted hat like the fedora, but itās got long, iridescent rooster feathers. This hat is also a fascinating choice, because like the fedora, itās not one of the standard menās hats that is approved for wearing with formal dress. And like the fedora, during the late 19th century, this is also a womanās hat.
In late 19th century Europe, elaborately feathered hats were considered feminine and generally only worn by women. This had been the case for quite some time. Regardless of whether he made it, stole a historical/costume hat, or bought it at a hat shop, it is a style that was only worn by women at the time. I wish I could ask Maria why she chose to give him such an elaborately feathered hat, considering the historical context (if you know more about this please tell me, Iām so curious!).
My feathered hat I got on eBay. Itās a bit of a crazy story though. It was 3am, and I was haphazardly browsing eBay listings for āblack feathered hatā, not expecting to find anything really, and I saw this hat. Itās a listing Iād seen before but never really given much thought to because it was a little over $100 usd and outside my budget. I jokingly texted a friend āhey tell me itās a bad idea to spent $120 on a hat for a cosplay.ā My friend asked to see the hat so I sent pics. A few minutes later my friend messaged back, ābuy the hat.ā
Turns out the hat is a āstyled by Jack McConnellā original. I had no idea what that meant. But my friend filled me in. He was a famous hat designer based out of NYC who made hats for movie stars, celebrities, and other famous people, in particular during the 1950-80s. Museums display his hats and hat collectors spend hundreds on them. Needless to say, I bought the hat.
The only slightly sad thing is, someone tried to superglue the feathers together at the base. This has made them really fragile and prone to snapping off. A few months after I got it, I took it to a hatter in NYC on a trip, and they managed to reattach some of them, but advised against replacing them to keep the hatās integrity intact. They also told me it was worth way more than I paid for it, which was surreal to hear. Iād love to find out who it was originally made for.
I also asked operafantomet if she knew where the phantomās feathered hat inspiration came from, to which she mentioned it might be a cavalier hat. Iād also be happy to hear if anyone else knows more about this!
So yeah, thatās the crazy story of how I got my feathered hat. Iām still kind of in disbelief š I try to use it mostly for indoor cosplays now, to prevent the feathers from getting further damaged by the wind. I bought a hat box to store it and travel with it as it is rather fragile. Itās a weird shape, but I found that it fit in a wide brimmed cowboy hat box. I got a hard case because the first one I got was soft case and didnāt do a great job of protecting the hat. I also keep my fedora in it underneath the feathered hat, and sometimes my mask underneath both hats so that none of them get crushed while travelling.
This makes it a bit tricky for me to provide good feathered hat recommendations though. Iām not really aware of a place where you can get them reliably aside from keeping an eye out on Etsy or eBay and hoping something comes up. I do know some people have made their own by getting a wide brimmed felt base and attaching rooster feathers, which might be faster than waiting for listings to show up.
Genuinely, though, if anyone has advice on this, please share so more people can find hats! Itās such a fun hat!
Boots
The phantom has a pair of black leather boots that lace up the front. There are a bunch of great posts operafantomet made detailing the story behind the boots and providing lots of examples. Some phantoms have red linings in their boots, but otherwise there is a lot of variation. Some are lace up only, while others have zippers.
Iām going to be up front and say that I donāt recommend getting second hand shoes, just because shoes have wear patterns which can cause the shoes to have uneven wear between the pair or compromise the integrity of the shoe. When someone elseās wear pattern is different from yours, it can make your feet, knees, and hips sad. Even if the wear pattern isnāt bad, if you donāt have good cushioning it can still hurt your joints. At least for me, I chose to buy new shoes because Iām hypermobile and my joints get mad if I have bad shoes.
Ok disclaimer done, now letās find out where we can get shoes. I got mine at a general shoe store at the mall. They have zippers because I hate having to tie my shoes, even though zippers arenāt historically accurate. I wanted to get shoes that Iād wear in my daily life and not just for cosplay so that I could justify spending enough to get decent shoes that would get worn more than 5x a year.
If you want to find replica boots, Historical Emporium has some, both leather and faux leather. Itās fine if you canāt find them at replica stores though. This is still a style they make today, so generally looking up menās dress boots should get you lots of options in a variety of price ranges. I also recommend going in person to try on the shoes rather than ordering online though so you can get a feel for them (Iāve had really bad luck ordering shoes online in general).
If you get leather boots, there are polishes and sprays you can put on them to help keep them in good states or to waterproof them. I admit I havenāt really used any of this with my boots, but I havenāt had any issues yet aside from having to wipe off some scuffs. Do be warned though if you live somewhere that gets a lot of snow and uses salt to treat the roads/sidewalks, the salt will destroy your shoes, so plan accordingly if you have to travel through snow.
Ring
The phantom's ring is often a type of signet ring, which was really common for men to wear throughout the 19th century, but there's also a ton of variations of what phantoms actually wear. Operafantomet has also covered this with a few posts, if you want to read more and see more examples of phantom rings.
Because of this, you've got a lot of leeway with choosing a ring. I chose to go with a gold one because I thought it was a fun nod to the book. I got my ring off of Amazon because I'm allergic to a bunch of metals and I wanted to make sure that I got something hypoallergenic. This one wasn't that expensive, I think it was around $20 because it's just steel with a bit of an onyx stone in it.
You can find these just about anywhere you find jewelry. There are some really elaborate and fancy antique rings that go up on Etsy and Ebay, some of which can be very expensive. If you buy a ring online, you'll need to know your ring size. There are charts you can find online that tell you how to measure your finger (usually with a piece of string that you wrap around and then measure). You can also go into just about any jewelry store and ask them and they should do it for free, even if you're not buying anything from them. I did that at a mall to get my size.
You can read more about historical hats and shoes on Gentlemanās Gazette, but like usual take the tone with a grain of salt because it can be judgy/elitist.
And that is all! This is the last post in this series! Weāve covered the whole suit as well as the shoes, hats, and ring, and thereās a bonus post on the cloak that I linked above. Iām always happy to answer questions or hear what other tips and ideas you have if you want to share!
