oldmanmacbeth

Users wont suffer from their unhappiness. Users will still be able to choose which artists they want to work on their coin. If they don’t like it, they can choose a different artist. 

http://www.cremation.com/pet-cremation-search/cost-of-pet-cremation/ :^y

Here, our vets don’t even do the cremations. They have to send the pet out to a cremation service

These typically don’t come with any respectable container for the ashes either (such as an urn), other than a plastic cup. 

I can for sure say that he did get his cat cremated, and it’s pretty shitty to post this before doing a god damn google search while someone’s grieving. 

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also chaos made a comment about fixing cats-- here it used to be about 80 dollars and tax, then 30 extra for meds, now the price is over 350-400 dollars. Took about that much to get my rabbit fixed too. :^V

They have services here that charge 40, but they have to ship the cat out to do it. Our town is too small to economically run the program locally. 

If it’s the wiki as a whole…I’m not sure what you’re talking about, since it appears intact for me? Are you sure you’re going to http://aywaswiki.com/?

I just looked here to see if it was still maintained at all since the shop list still shows the old NPCs. I was wondering if la boutique was the old clothes of the world.

When you agree to their rules, you agree to give them their right. That agreement is not the refusal situation itself, but the right to give first refusal in a later agreement. The actual act of refusing the offspring is not the same agreement as giving them the right to do so.

I get the site needs rules, but between stricter and stricter breeding/customs and more and more rules it’s starting to feel more stifling than anything.

Between that and users screaming for people to quit ((spoiler alert they have been or have you not noticed people quitting in droves and a lack of submissions, on top of that I’ve noticed an increase in casual lurkers with the people left onsite heck I’m nearly to that point)) I’m concerned for the site.

YES users can get heated, but that’s on both sides. Guys don’t act like defending the site gives you some shield and free pass to get even more aggressive. I keep seeing that, it’s some real toxic stuff and doesn’t help.

Right now I think tempers are high because we keep getting more restrictive rules every time we take a breath. We’ve gotten so much negative that has mad the site that much more complicated to play. I was already afraid of being banned of some weird rule. Now I’m TERRIFIED.

None.

Not even one.

I understand if people are suddenly realising they never considered if they wanted their rules to be anything other than permanent and timeless, and they want to give leeway to people in the event of them being on hiatus for an extended period of time… but that is always a right they’ve had, but never thought about or exercised.

There are no site rules you will be immediately banned for - except for severe breeches, for example (but not limited to) posted explicit pornography, DOSed someone and posted their details on site, botting Adventure or games…

Just take one darned look at the banned users forum and you’ll realise that the first page spans TWO YEARS. That is how infrequently we ban people - and the bans there are in the majority people who broke the rules repeatedly, were excluded, and then broke the rules again by trying to sneak back! It’s been seven months since anyone has been banned for excessive use of resources.

The problem is all this cropping up, this is going to make people nervous about it regardless because basically we’re being bombarded by all this. You can’t reasonably expect a group of people to be told hey this is a thing and regardless of intent this is a hard site rule and no one freak out. Many people made statements based on the idea that it wasn’t. And there’s no just opting out. People are trying to blanket opt out and being told they can’t.

The site didn’t communicate correctly to SO many users and now it’s up to the users to fix it. Again.

This is a rule I was even aware of before the post. The post was just made because people hadn’t considered what should happen when agreeing to breeding rules. 

Like I’ve read your points and I definitely understand. This post is far from just about this though honestly. I feel like the site has been adding rules or very vague and it often falls on us to know what is meant and to do the correct thing in all cases.

Also as far as the only matters if it’s reported also isn’t clear, I happened to notice later it’s clarified but yet again it’s in the comments and not the news post itself. I’ve noticed a lot of answers being given in places you have to get lucky for, and it’s rather hit and miss what gets a news post or a news post edit.

I think the worst of this change being that it’s still really confusing what they mean and instead of clarifying in the news you have stuff in comments and on the AC.

I’d also like to mention that the “not reported” thing isn’t something that needs to be clear. It’s still against the rules. It’s along the lines of “you’re only in trouble if you get caught breaking the law”. :^s

You can get wrapped up if you pay too much attention to the AC, the comments, and miss-information. The discussions tend to draw up a atmosphere of charged negativity. 

For me this confirmation wasn’t negative. I felt it positive because this actually protects the users’ rights they have of their pets. As someone who is on hiatus often for health reasons (longer than 6 months), if suddenly my pet/breeding/species rules didn’t matter, that would be an infringement on my rights and be really upsetting. 

In the case of people complaining about this, they basically want to throw away the rights of the original user to make a buck off a pet they don’t want with rules they agreed to (I don’t know how to phrase this less harshly). 

To me it’s always been pretty clear that when the TOS says you must abide by all agreements, this means to abide by them to the word. I think it’s been like that for over 5 or 6 years, if not, since 2010.

The newspost did say they’re writing a KB article on it though, so there will be that.  

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I get the site needs rules, but between stricter and stricter breeding/customs and more and more rules it’s starting to feel more stifling than anything.

Between that and users screaming for people to quit ((spoiler alert they have been or have you not noticed people quitting in droves and a lack of submissions, on top of that I’ve noticed an increase in casual lurkers with the people left onsite heck I’m nearly to that point)) I’m concerned for the site.

YES users can get heated, but that’s on both sides. Guys don’t act like defending the site gives you some shield and free pass to get even more aggressive. I keep seeing that, it’s some real toxic stuff and doesn’t help.

Right now I think tempers are high because we keep getting more restrictive rules every time we take a breath. We’ve gotten so much negative that has mad the site that much more complicated to play. I was already afraid of being banned of some weird rule. Now I’m TERRIFIED.

None.

Not even one.

I understand if people are suddenly realising they never considered if they wanted their rules to be anything other than permanent and timeless, and they want to give leeway to people in the event of them being on hiatus for an extended period of time… but that is always a right they’ve had, but never thought about or exercised.

There are no site rules you will be immediately banned for - except for severe breeches, for example (but not limited to) posted explicit pornography, DOSed someone and posted their details on site, botting Adventure or games…

Just take one darned look at the banned users forum and you’ll realise that the first page spans TWO YEARS. That is how infrequently we ban people - and the bans there are in the majority people who broke the rules repeatedly, were excluded, and then broke the rules again by trying to sneak back! It’s been seven months since anyone has been banned for excessive use of resources.

The problem is all this cropping up, this is going to make people nervous about it regardless because basically we’re being bombarded by all this. You can’t reasonably expect a group of people to be told hey this is a thing and regardless of intent this is a hard site rule and no one freak out. Many people made statements based on the idea that it wasn’t. And there’s no just opting out. People are trying to blanket opt out and being told they can’t.

The site didn’t communicate correctly to SO many users and now it’s up to the users to fix it. Again.

This is a rule I was even aware of before the post. The post was just made because people hadn’t considered what should happen when agreeing to breeding rules. 

While I think the rules are too strict in some places, I do agree with the reminder about the breeding rules though. It’s not like it was anything new and it’s important to protect the rights of users.

I mean I guess the site is getting a facelift and that’s good for everyone, but dang I feel like it’s going to need it at this rate because it’s going to need new members.

Look, I get the site needs to change to grow. That being said I DON’T think the site needs to keep making customs and breeding ((predicts/on site artists)) stricter and stricter let alone without actually keeping up the KB and having a DETAILED set of info about how every single thing works at this point.

I keep seeing more and more complaints from people about how suddenly SURPRISE with no warning something no longer passes and there was little or even NO word on the change. Yet the site continues their stance of ‘ignorance is no excuse’. Which is fair when it’s even possible to know, but most if not all of the times I see this it has been LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW IT WAS CHANGED. There’s NOTHING about it anywhere.

The site can’t seem to afford to make the core gameplay more fun, it’s not getting enough user content to keep pet collecting at the forefront, and with this cracking down more and more with no real clarification without having to put in the work/funds and then if it doesn’t work a sorry too bad so sad I don’t see the appeal of trying to do much predict/edit wise anymore.

My gut says BC/Dates are in for a storm if what I read is true, especially BC which is going to get up to HBC times I feel like at this point even without coins coming out.

Staff fails to compare the site with other successful contemporary games to see what the flaws might be (in this case, over-complexity; which also, in-turn weakens accessibility) and instead think the solution to this is more KB articles rather than to remedy the system. 

Granted, KB articles will solve a lot of problems when they’re in place, but the complex nature of the site is still its downfall. 

We all like free things handed to us or easy to get each day-- I know I do for sure!---but little sacrifices such as this help improve the game’s overall play system!

That’s right valkyrieslament, I’ll rant on anon all I want because at least people will still pay me money because I put out quality work and it will stay that way.