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I think its really weird how jax was the one to handle it worse and eventually abstract after being told everyone one in the cast was not actual real people and brainscans because like... thats literally reafirming the lies and coping mechanism he developed with the "everyone is a cartoon character and you are all my playthings XD" monologues he had on episode 6 like if anyone was supposed to actually be happy everything was fake it was supposed to be him.

like a good chunk of his crisis were triggered by remembering his real world out of the circus stuff he should be overjoyed he was not the same person as leeroy jenkins or whatever he is called.

This show writing is so ass oh my god

nomariafantasies

I feel the need to reblog this because this take is pretty ass. First, you confuse Jax's coping mechanism for his actual worldview. He neither genuinely believed nothing he did matters, nor he believe that it would mean that what he did would be okay. Coping is just that. A lie is just that. He knew it wasn't true, that it didn't justifiy what he did, and I think if you actually thought that way, then I think TADC is a little too complicated for you. "He said nothing matters, but he's stressed out that things DO matter? Um, bad writing!" Second, if he is triggered by his REAL MEMORIES of things he ACTUALLY DID in the real world, that means he still did them, and the fact that he is only a brain scan means there is literally NO WAY TO FIX WHAT HE DID, which includes apparently killing his mother. Jax is once again reminded of all the shit he did, that he always knew was wrong, and now escape is genuinely impossible and he will have to live it, so he abstracts.

Do you not remember that he was also pissed that Caine lied to them about the buttons to begin with, even though he consciously pressed the button that should have kept them in? That he joined the others in trying to escape anyway?

Jax is scared to confront reality, but he's even more scared at the idea that there is nothing he can do to make up for what he did, which si echoed in his last scene, where he cries that it's far too late. How is this ass writing? You fell for the facade, and that's the story's fault? The complicated character does seemingly contradictory actions under one consistent throughline, and that's bad writing?

I hate when people try to outsmart something but they put less than the bare minimum of thought into it.

#tadc #jax #tadc jax

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Idk I feel like its kinda questionable and in bad taste to specifically make the Mr. Raging-Mygony Van Mascule character transfem coded.

Its like everytime a man is a homophobic jerk people insist he must be secretly gay and taking it up on the ass.

miasma-my-asthma

Well well well, and now they even made him fantasise about sexually harassing and manipulating women while making transphobic jokes, would you look at that. Sure thats great rep everyone Im sure this will age well

nomariafantasies

I think trans women should be able to write trans women who aren't just objectively perfect soapboxes/representation checkmarks designed only to ward off people who would hate them anyway, and instead make them nuanced (like characters typically should) with critical flaws that should be worked on and avoided as the story is obviously indicating, actually.

"Woah, hold on. Is Jax TADC a problematic person? Tsk tsk, history will not look kindly to people who make stories more complicated than Teletubbies.

"made him fantasize" they're literally intrusive thoughts. The point is that those are thoughts that are bad that Jax knows is bad.

#tadc jax #tadc

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frostops

Frieren is the new attack on titan

frostops

I say this with the utmost contempt

frostops

Is this very obviously racist show racist? Who’s to say?

nomariafantasies

If Frieren is racist for saying "the race that looks human are only deceiving you and should be genocided", how is Attack on Titan the same kind of racist for saying "the race that looks like monsters are actually human, deserve to be treated like humans, and genocide is wrong?" I don't disagree with your take on Frieren but that's precisely why saying Attack on Titan is an "obviously racist show" in the same vein doesn't make any sense whatsoever lol. Apparently you believe the author is a Japanese nationalist, which is silly and unsubstantiated, but also, like, Frieren and Attack on Titan do practically the exact opposite ideas, if not entirely different ideas to begin with.

The problem is not simply that in Frieren, there is a race of humans who look like monsters. The problem is, in Frieren, the "nits make lice" ideology is completely unconstested. Even if you somehow think Attack on Titan has the same ideology (it does not), it very much contests such ideas.

frostops

You think it’s unsubstantiated that the author of attack on titan is a Japanese nationalist? Like I think you could make a case that his nationalism affects his story less than some people argue (though I wouldn’t make that case) but him being a nationalist is pretty cut and dry.

frostops

Regardless my point wasnt that the flaws of frieren and aot are identical but that the discourses surrounding them mirror each other. People like you ignore the writing on the wall.

nomariafantasies

They're not the same discourse for the crucial fact that people absolutely do not deny that Attack on Titan is Saying Something. No one goes "well they're just monsters", "oh, it doesn't mean anything", everyone knows those monsters Represent Something. Everyone has a genuine take on the Rumbling as if it was a real-life act of genocide. I wish Frieren discourse was like Attack on Titan because even the fascists who think Attack on Titan is fascist will admit to being fascist and make it easy lol To this day they're mad that the story isn't the fascist power fantasy they wanted it to be.

Attack on Titan discourse is people arguing about What, Exactly, It All Means with no ignorance of the story being political wherever it lands. People who defend it against accusations of fascism have a comprehensive idea of why. They aren't ignorant of why someone could read it and think otherwise, they just believe the actual story and its politics wouldn't, couldn't support that.

You say "hey, the Eldians and their situation resemble Jews in the Holocaust", and responses are "it's anti-Semitic (derogatory)", "it's anti-Semitic (positive)", or "it's very obviously critical of the Holocaust", but never "erm, no it's not, they're Just Eldians." Frieren discourse is fascists hiding behind people who will rather believe the story they like is saying "nothing" than even consider that it is Saying Something.

You say "hey, the demons are written like how racists describe minorities", and responses are "so you think black people are demons?"

frostops

“Nobody goes there just monsters” “but never ‘erm, no it’s not, they’re just eldians” looks it’s fine if you never played attention to aot discourse while it was ongoing but if appreciate you not saying things I saw happen in real time never happened.

nomariafantasies

I have been arguing about Attack on Titan for 5 years at least. I have been in the trenches, from the "Akatsuki no Requiem", "Eren is Historia's babydaddy" fan theories, to the first spoilers of the final chapter, to the anime ending, and even today. I have argued with and around self-admitted Nazis, liberals, progressives, even casual fans, etc. That is just not how Attack on Titan discourse goes lmao. Anyone who bothers by the series' politics and ending are not people who are going "oh, it doesn't mean anything." It's very much about What It Means. Opinions vary on that, sure. But no one pretends it is somehow removed of political context. Not the "Attack on Titan is fascist (derogatory)" people, not the "Attack on Titan is fascist (affectionate)" people, not the "Attack on Titan isn't fascist" people.

The people you're referring to are vanishingly rare. Like, maybe, at the very beginning, in 2013? Sure. But the series' political context evolved very quickly. I'd say the basement reveal was where basically all discussion became exactly about how political it is. It's unavoidable.

Again, compared to Frieren, where people would get cagey about Frieren being a racist even in the literal, in-universe context, it is not the same, not at all.

#attack on titan #frieren #sousou no frieren #frieren: beyond journey's end #shingeki no kyojin

frostops

Frieren is the new attack on titan

frostops

I say this with the utmost contempt

frostops

Is this very obviously racist show racist? Who’s to say?

nomariafantasies

If Frieren is racist for saying "the race that looks human are only deceiving you and should be genocided", how is Attack on Titan the same kind of racist for saying "the race that looks like monsters are actually human, deserve to be treated like humans, and genocide is wrong?" I don't disagree with your take on Frieren but that's precisely why saying Attack on Titan is an "obviously racist show" in the same vein doesn't make any sense whatsoever lol. Apparently you believe the author is a Japanese nationalist, which is silly and unsubstantiated, but also, like, Frieren and Attack on Titan do practically the exact opposite ideas, if not entirely different ideas to begin with.

The problem is not simply that in Frieren, there is a race of humans who look like monsters. The problem is, in Frieren, the "nits make lice" ideology is completely unconstested. Even if you somehow think Attack on Titan has the same ideology (it does not), it very much contests such ideas.

frostops

You think it’s unsubstantiated that the author of attack on titan is a Japanese nationalist? Like I think you could make a case that his nationalism affects his story less than some people argue (though I wouldn’t make that case) but him being a nationalist is pretty cut and dry.

frostops

Regardless my point wasnt that the flaws of frieren and aot are identical but that the discourses surrounding them mirror each other. People like you ignore the writing on the wall.

nomariafantasies

They're not the same discourse for the crucial fact that people absolutely do not deny that Attack on Titan is Saying Something. No one goes "well they're just monsters", "oh, it doesn't mean anything", everyone knows those monsters Represent Something. Everyone has a genuine take on the Rumbling as if it was a real-life act of genocide. I wish Frieren discourse was like Attack on Titan because even the fascists who think Attack on Titan is fascist will admit to being fascist and make it easy lol To this day they're mad that the story isn't the fascist power fantasy they wanted it to be.

Attack on Titan discourse is people arguing about What, Exactly, It All Means with no ignorance of the story being political wherever it lands. People who defend it against accusations of fascism have a comprehensive idea of why. They aren't ignorant of why someone could read it and think otherwise, they just believe the actual story and its politics wouldn't, couldn't support that.

You say "hey, the Eldians and their situation resemble Jews in the Holocaust", and responses are "it's anti-Semitic (derogatory)", "it's anti-Semitic (positive)", or "it's very obviously critical of the Holocaust", but never "erm, no it's not, they're Just Eldians." Frieren discourse is fascists hiding behind people who will rather believe the story they like is saying "nothing" than even consider that it is Saying Something.

You say "hey, the demons are written like how racists describe minorities", and responses are "so you think black people are demons?"

#attack on titan #shingeki no kyojin #frieren #frieren: beyond journey's end

frostops

Frieren is the new attack on titan

frostops

I say this with the utmost contempt

frostops

Is this very obviously racist show racist? Who’s to say?

nomariafantasies

If Frieren is racist for saying "the race that looks human are only deceiving you and should be genocided", how is Attack on Titan the same kind of racist for saying "the race that looks like monsters are actually human, deserve to be treated like humans, and genocide is wrong?" I don't disagree with your take on Frieren but that's precisely why saying Attack on Titan is an "obviously racist show" in the same vein doesn't make any sense whatsoever lol. Apparently you believe the author is a Japanese nationalist, which is silly and unsubstantiated, but also, like, Frieren and Attack on Titan do practically the exact opposite ideas, if not entirely different ideas to begin with.

The problem is not simply that in Frieren, there is a race of humans who look like monsters. The problem is, in Frieren, the "nits make lice" ideology is completely unconstested. Even if you somehow think Attack on Titan has the same ideology (it does not), it very much contests such ideas.

frostops

You think it’s unsubstantiated that the author of attack on titan is a Japanese nationalist? Like I think you could make a case that his nationalism affects his story less than some people argue (though I wouldn’t make that case) but him being a nationalist is pretty cut and dry.

nomariafantasies

I've heard many arguments about this. The most substantiated one is a series of tweets he might have said very early when making the story on that learned towards apologia for what Japan did to Korea (and even then, it is entirely possible while writing the story that he leaned away from those views; he actively talked about how while the ending of the story never changed, his approach to it did, and he speaks of Eren like he was a part of himself he hated); the other arguments are basically just making comparisons between the story and history under the assumption he does so as a nationalist (i.e. this element is in the story because he thinks nationalism is good, regardless of whether the story, in-universe or narrative, thinks it's a good thing). The only other claim with any weight is one character being drawn after a soldier from the Russo-Japanese War (though many people are under the assumption that he was a WWII soldier, which he wasn't). But the author's own explanation of why he was inspired by him explicitly does not include the fact that he very likely committed war crimes, but that he actually denounced those views and actions. Which might be a whitewashed account of the real man, but I seriously doubt a hardcore Japanese nationalist would admit a soldier for regretting and renouncing Japan's war crimes, especially when their ideology is more denial and (paradoxically) justification. The actual story he wrote, as the author's biggest case for his political views as he's written nothing else and he's pretty reclusive, makes no sense as a nationalist work unironically. It does have fascism in it, like how Wolfenstein has Nazis, but they are presented to be criticized. Maybe you can see the sympathetic elements of characters like Floch or Eren himself as sympathy towards fascism, but I definitely see it as simply making the case that fascists are human, for better and definitely worse, not justifying their actions. It's very much against the idea that people are just born evil or even that they can't change despite their environment. It especially doesn't make sense in comparison to Frieren. The biggest difference is that its fascism isn't acknowledged or challenged as such, which makes it seem like, well, the author genuinely believes that. Frieren is like if Attack on Titan never moved past its initial premise, with all the fascist implications (again, in the sense that the setting literally has fascism in it) never even being acknowledged as such; normalized and rationalized as a natural and therefore harmless state of the world. I'll concede that Attack on Titan can lack tact or it's a little too brazen with its metaphors and analogies (though I'd rather a story be like "so what if the jews did have tails? The Holocaust was wrong, full stop" than "oh, well, they weren't literally monsters, so it's only technically wrong"), but it definitely isn't the same as Frieren, which also lacks tact but like in the way that someone says a slur out of genuine ignorance.

#attack on titan #shingeki no kyojin #frieren

frostops

Frieren is the new attack on titan

frostops

I say this with the utmost contempt

frostops

Is this very obviously racist show racist? Who’s to say?

nomariafantasies

If Frieren is racist for saying "the race that looks human are only deceiving you and should be genocided", how is Attack on Titan the same kind of racist for saying "the race that looks like monsters are actually human, deserve to be treated like humans, and genocide is wrong?" I don't disagree with your take on Frieren but that's precisely why saying Attack on Titan is an "obviously racist show" in the same vein doesn't make any sense whatsoever lol. Apparently you believe the author is a Japanese nationalist, which is silly and unsubstantiated, but also, like, Frieren and Attack on Titan do practically the exact opposite ideas, if not entirely different ideas to begin with.

The problem is not simply that in Frieren, there is a race of humans who look like monsters. The problem is, in Frieren, the "nits make lice" ideology is completely unconstested. Even if you somehow think Attack on Titan has the same ideology (it does not; like, it fundamentally wouldn't make sense as a story if it did lol), it very much contests such ideas.

If Attack on Titan wrote that flashback with the demon child, it'd have the whole village arguing about whether it's right to kill the demon before the protagonists kill it. Then, later in the series, the same situation happens, only the perspective is flipped and you would be forced to reckon with whether the initial scene was the right thing to do.

#attack on titan #frieren #sousou no frieren #shingeki no kyojin

Dipping my toes into Frieren demon discourse but I saw a comment in a post, where someone says that seeing the whole "they may look and act human, but they're not, they're actually monsters" as problematic is wrong because seeing the demons as human or human-adjacent would fall into "zootopia levels of icky representation",

and I am enamored by the idea that "the other is non-human and should be destroyed, yes, even the children" is okay, preferred even, but "just because they're different doesn't mean you should be racist (the most problematic interpretation of Zootopia) is "icky."

Zootopia is icky for suggesting that the tiger on the train just wants to go to work; what would be better representation is that he be shot on sight for being a tiger (which are ontologically evil, of course; anything who is not me is evil).

I would wonder what world you'd have to live in where that makes sense... it's this one, of course.

#frieren #sousou no frieren #frieren: beyond journey's end #zootopia #fantasy

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every new clip or manga cap i see of frieren is just ultra mega hitlerism and a bunch of weebs going "this is so based we should kill more minorit- i mean demons without question"

nomariafantasies

This post is very funny, namely because they somehow watched Attack on Titan and think it's about how the literal Nazis in the story are right. You can even use Attack on Titan to demonstrate why Frieren fumbles its messaging; namely that it is extremely obvious when the characters in AoT spout Nazi rhetoric, it is recognized as Nazi rhetoric (and bad). Eren and the people who became Nazis in his name are supposed to be wrong and in the wrong. The fact that characters say "genocide is right" is clearly not an endorsement of genocide. But unfortunately it's harder to say for Frieren, because the story does not want to say that she is wrong about anything. When she says "genocide is right", the story and setting are actually designed so that she is right.

Attack on Titan is written up and down that you're not supposed to be comfortable with what is all-but-said to be fascist rhetoric: both because it comes from a hateful place and also because it's based on ideas that aren't even true in the setting.

Frieren is written so that you are supposed to take characters at their word because every character has an "objective" yet incurious view of their own world. Even the demons understand that they're demons, in that they only eat people because they are evil.

Knowing the difference between what a character says and what the actual point is is very important when reading a story.

bizbiz

Trying to articulate why I don’t like the new game Dispatch without using pejoratives (cape shit, millennial coded, libbed up), but why I can’t get it out of my head. I think that’s because it has the potential to be good and isn’t.

I like a good gritty deconstruction of the superhero genre, and I like this is the police. Seemed like a no brainer to pick this one up. When I got it though, I was frustrated by its unwillingness to establish stakes, utilize its R rating to establish any edge, or paint characters outside of bland archetypes.

First rule of storytelling: establish a conflict, then solve it immediately. You play as a superhero without any powers, but then your mech suit is destroyed and you’re suddenly just a civilian. Does reckoning with that sound interesting? Well don’t worry, the superhero corporation will build you a new one. There’s a privatized super powered police force that’s run like a corporate office? No it’s okay they’re not sinister. Oh shit my blossoming romance with my superpowered boss becomes complicated because she’s dating Superman? Nevermind it’s alright she broke up with him on her own 20 minutes after you learn that. Rebellious cape on your team calls you a fraud and a loser nepo baby? Nah it’s alright you help her one time and she falls in love with you. These are legitimately interesting set ups but the game is just incapable of letting them lie for a second or going into any depth that disrupts the cutesy, irreverent atmosphere. To me it speaks to a classic anxiety that the game has, that it’s very worried that nothing it’s saying is interesting or valuable. If it just committed to any one of its plot threads and dug into what was there I feel like you could tell a much more engaging story.

That brings me to the second problem I have with this game: why bother getting the R rating if you’re not going to use it! Characters swear, there’s a bit of blood and a bit of tits. It’s fine to not go whole hog on ultra violence, but the story that the game tells is extremely tame. A game trying to comment on the superhero genre and contemporary American office life could really benefit from a bit of venom! You could also make a more serious narrative from the interpersonal drama and the trauma and psychological impact that being a superhero would have, or the impact of being a civilian in a world of fantastic and extremely dangerous powers. But again the writers seem self conscious, so we’re stuck with a middle ground where we’ve got the elements of the gritty realist superhero (blood and tits), and the elements of an introspective character study (mental illness interacting with superpowered vigilantism) but the game just flits around the surface, adapting the signifiers but not any of the depth. The characters remain bland cut outs that bring to mind that post about DND podcasts.

The writing isn’t good, the jokes were about 50/50 hit and miss the first 2 chapters but the next part it was more like 30/70. It’s frustrating because I could imagine it being good if it just had a clear voice and direction, or something it wanted to say.

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Smitten and Hero are my favorite voices. (⁠◔⁠‿⁠◔⁠)

The voices just look exactly the same, they just wear different hats. Lmao (Totally not because I don't want to come up with designs.)

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