Have Courage & Be Kind Little Dove

Because like, I recently saw Charlotte and Elizabeth contrasted as the former being pragmatic and the latter holding out for a love match, because she's younger and prettier and thinks she can afford it, and that is very much not what's happening.

The Charlotte take is correct, but the Elizabeth is all wrong. Lizzie doesn't insist on a love match. That's serendipitous and rather unexpected. She wants, exactly as Mr. Bennet says, someone she can respect. Contempt won't do. Mr. Bennet puts it in weirdly sexist terms like he's trying to avoid acknowledging what he did to himself by marrying a self-absorbed idiot, but it's still true. That's what Elizabeth is shooting for: a marriage that won't make her unhappy.

She's grown up watching how miserable her parents make one another; she's not willing to sign up for a lifetime of being bitter and lonely in her own home.

I think she is very aware, in refusing Mr. Collins, that it's reasonably unlikely that anyone she actually respects is going to want her, with her few accomplishments and her lack of property. That she is turning down security and the chance keep the house she grew up in, and all she gets in return may be spinsterhood.

But, crucially, she has absolute faith in Jane.

The bit about teaching Jane's daughters to embroider badly? That's a joke, but it's also a serious potential life plan. Jane is the best creature in the world, and a beauty; there's no chance at all she won't get married to someone worthwhile.

(Bingley mucks this up by breaking Jane's heart, but her prospects remain reasonable if their mother would lay off!)

And if Elizabeth can't replicate that feat, then there's also no doubt in her mind that Jane will let her live in her house as a dependent as long as she likes, and never let it be made shameful or awful to be that impoverished spinster aunt. It will be okay never to be married at all, because she has her sister, whom she trusts absolutely to succeed and to protect her.

And if something eventually happens to Jane's family and they can't keep her anymore, she can throw herself upon the mercy of the Gardeners, who have money and like her very much, and are likewise good people. She has a support network--not a perfect or impregnable one, but it exists. It gives her realistic options.

Spinsterhood was a very dangerous choice; there are reasons you would go to considerable lengths not to risk it.

But Elizabeth has Jane, and her pride, and an understanding of what marrying someone who will make you miserable costs.

That's part of the thesis of the book, I would say! Recurring Austen thought. How important it is not to marry someone who will make you, specifically, unhappy.

She would rather be a dependent of people she likes and trusts than of someone she doesn't, even if the latter is formally considered more secure; she would rather live in a happy, reasonable household as an extra than be the mistress of her own home, but that home is full of Mr. Collins and her mother.

This is a calculation she's making consciously! She's not counting on a better marriage coming along. She just feels the most likely bad outcome from refusing Mr. Collins is still much better than the certain outcome of accepting him. Which is being stuck with Mr. Collins forever.

Elizabeth is also being pragmatic. Austen also endorses her choice, for the person she is and the concerns she has. She's just picking different trade-offs than Charlotte.

Elizabeth's flaw is not in her own priorities; she doesn't make a reckless choice and get lucky. But in being unable to accept that Charlotte's are different, and it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with Charlotte.

Because realistically, when your marriage is your whole family and career forever, and you only get to pick the ones that offer themselves to you, when you are legally bound to the status of dependent, you're always going to be making some trade-offs.

I had a sense that Elizabeth's inability to empathize with Charlotte's decision, and sense of consequently downgrading her whole understanding of her as a person, is quite as much meant to reflect a bit poorly on her--not that it's an awful reaction, but it points up her sense of pride and tendency to pass judgment on others, that are the key weaknesses her character arc tends toward tempering over the course of the novel.

This is factually incorrect.

Sir William Lucas was a tradesman who made a good living and "a tolerable fortune" (not a good fortune, a tolerable fortune) and then sold everything to buy an estate and live a life of leisure when he got made a knight because he made a speech the king liked (chapter 5). Being made a knight gave him all sorts of ideas about what was suitable because (although an amiable man) he is also a huge snob. He would not have sold his business and bought an estate if he hadn't been made a knight, because he would have been much better off to continue in trade. The Lucases are not the Bingleys, they didn't quit trade because they had enough wealth to last for generations.

The Lucas family income from their estate + the money left from Sir William's business dealings is less than the Bennet family income. Exact figures are never stated, but it's implied in a lot of places throughout the story. For example, in chapter 9, Mrs. Bennet tells Mr. Bingley that Charlotte has to help with some of the cooking/food preparation in ways that the Bennet girls don't, because the Bennets have better (and probably more) servants. The Bennet girls don't have to work like the Lucas girls do, because the Bennets can afford not to. Remember what a snob Sir William is, and that he is willing to sacrifice income so that they will be "gentry" and not work. If there was any way he could afford enough servants so the girls didn't have to help in the kitchen, he would do it as a point of pride. (Note: the Bennet girls would still be doing a lot of work within the house; sewing clothes, mending things, making a lot of the nicer decorative things in the Bennet household, etc., etc. But they do NOT do any of the heavier work of cleaning, and they do NO cooking whatsoever. But the Collins girls help out in the kitchen sometimes....)

The other thing to remember, when comparing Elizabeth's situation to Charlotte's, is the Gardiners. Mr. Gardiner is in trade, which is a slight social step down from the Bennets' status as landed gentry. BUT. Mr. Gardiner makes a shit-ton of money. He has enough money to take lengthy, expensive vacations and invite Elizabeth along; and he has enough money that Mr. Bennet thinks it's believable that he paid at least five times the Bennet annual income to get Wickham to marry Lydia. Mr. Gardiner is LOADED. And we know he really loves his nieces, especially Jane and Elizabeth. He's got enough money that supporting them would be no sacrifice, and he loves them enough to do it without begrudging it. No such wealthy and compassionate relation is ever hinted at for the Lucases. For all that Mrs. Bennet wails about their fate after Mr. Bennet dies, the worst possible outcome for Elizabeth is much better than Charlotte's most likely outcome if she didn't marry Mr. Collins.

Chapter 22 gives the Lucas family reaction to Charlotte's engagement: "The whole family in short were properly overjoyed on the occasion. The younger girls formed hopes of coming out a year or two sooner than they might otherwise have done; and the boys were relieved from their apprehension of Charlotte’s dying an old maid. Charlotte herself was tolerably composed. She had gained her point, and had time to consider of it. Her reflections were in general satisfactory. Mr. Collins, to be sure, was neither sensible nor agreeable: his society was irksome, and his attachment to her must be imaginary. But still he would be her husband. Without thinking highly either of men or of matrimony, marriage had always been her object: it was the only honourable provision for well-educated young women of small fortune, and, however uncertain of giving happiness, must be their pleasantest preservative from want."

Small fortune, that's how the text describes her. Which, in this case, means "still in the gentry class but without the money to back it up." She's not a revolutionary, she doesn't want to overthrow society, she doesn't want to be rich, she just wants an "honorable"/respectable place in society, and she wants to be "preserved from want." Getting married is the only way she can have a decent life, and even marrying a man she doesn't like is better than the life she will have if she doesn't marry. And look at her family reaction! They all know who Mr. Collins is, how fatuous and self-centered and boring and condescending! They know as well as Charlotte does what kind of a man he is! Not one of them gives a shit what her life with him is going to be like. Elizabeth is the only person in the entire book who is shown to care what Charlotte's feelings are, and what her life with him will be like.

And sure, Sir William's estate is not entailed! That doesn't mean he's going to divide it among his children. It barely supports one family in the appropriate style. If it's divided, it's not going to support any of them. English tradition is primogeniture (and Sir William is a very traditional man): if there are sons, the ENTIRE estate goes to the eldest son. If there's enough money, the younger sons get an education for a middle-class profession so they can support themselves and the girls get dowries. The younger siblings have to fend for themselves (with hopefully enough to launch them); only the oldest son gets the inheritance, which means that the inheritance gets preserved through the generations. But the younger siblings only get educations/dowries IF there's enough money after the eldest son is provided for ... and the Lucases barely enough for the eldest son and the family he will one day have. If Charlotte even has a dowry, it's smaller than Elizabeth's, and that's a big if.

Charlotte has no money of her own, nor any prospect of ever inheriting it. While her parents are alive, they will support her. After that, her brothers will (and possibly her sisters, if they marry well). But that doesn't mean they'll be nice about it. "Unpaid servant/nurse and the subject of scorn" was pretty typical for how spinster sisters got treated. Think Anne Elliot from Persuasion, except that Anne actually had it pretty good as spinsters went: her father and sisters despised her, but there was enough money for them all to live comfortably on (even with Sir Walter's debts), and Lady Russell and the Musgroves like and respect her. Reread that bit up there from chapter 22 about the Lucas family reaction to her engagement, and ask yourself if Charlotte's treatment as a spinster sister would be as good as Anne's was ... and Charlotte has no Lady Russell to help her.

Later, when Charlotte talks to Elizabeth about it, she says: "I am not romantic, you know. I never was. I ask only a comfortable home."

Charlotte's goal, her grand ambition, is not wealth, it's not the Longbourn estate, it's a comfortable home. And she thinks that being shackled to Mr. Collins for the rest of her life is more likely to bring her that comfortable home than being a spinster living with her family.

I also think you're wrong about the book--and Elizabeth's!--ultimate conclusion on Charlotte. Elizabeth's initial reaction is very negative, yes ... but one of the book's major themes is Elizabeth learning that her initial reactions aren't always right, and that other people have different thoughts and needs and personalities than she does. The book doesn't admire Charlotte for her decisions, but it does have compassion for her situation.

That this combination of self-effacement (because she's willing to kowtow to fundamentally worthless people) and arrogance (because she fundamentally doesn't care about them, and thus doesn't mind that they impose on her) is a pretty shitty way to be.

Where are you getting the arrogance from? There's never an indication that she's arrogant or uncaring! Willing to kowtow to fundamentally worthless people, yes, but that's the social reality of her life. That was how society worked! You were supposed to dance attendance on your "betters" even if they're stupid, awful people. If you didn't suck up to them enough, there could be very real negative consequences. The book is not criticizing Charlotte, it's criticizing that aspect of society. (Which is a constant theme in Jane Austen's books, consider Sir Walter and Elizabeth's fawning over Lady Dalrymple in Persuasion.) Charlotte is in a lot more vulnerable position than Elizabeth is, financially and familialy.

If either of them are arrogant, it's Elizabeth. Elizabeth is the one who fundamentally doesn't care about Mr. Collins and Lady Catherine and thinks herself above them. Elizabeth is the one who's always mentally rolling her eyes at them and thinking about how awful they are. Charlotte shrugs and accepts them, and doesn't judge them, and urges Elizabeth to be less arrogant about them, and accepts the reality that they have power over her and her family.* She bows to the dictates she can't get out of, and arranges the household so that both she and Mr. Collins are happy. He's very happy, and she encourages him to do things he likes; the fact that those things take him away from home a lot benefits her as well, but it's not like she's hurting him or making him unhappy, she's literally encouraging him to do things he likes to do.

*Clergy, in those days, were basically appointed by the local richest person in the area. Mr. Collins is the parish priest at Hunsford because Lady Catherine personally hired him. She can't fire him! He's secure in that job for as long as he lives! She can make his life uncomfortable, but she can't get rid of him--that's why a particular parish is called "a living" for the priest in question. Clergy was also one of the most common professions for younger sons of gentry, because there were only a few respectable ones. BUT just being a clergyman didn't guarantee you an income; you needed a rich person to say "yeah, I like that guy, I want him as my priest" and give him the living. And the only people rich enough to do that that anyone in her family knows (so far as we know) is Lady Catherine. So by dancing attendance on Lady Catherine, she is also angling towards securing a decent future for one of her brothers. Clergymen didn't make a huge income, but they were comfortable if they had a parish of their own and weren't just a curate somewhere. Lady Catherine's patronage could easily be the difference between "comfort" and "poverty" for one of her brothers in the future.

If I'm not mistaken Elizabeth even observes that she and Charlotte can never be as close as they once were, now that she's gained a greater understanding of who her friend is and what she's willing to put up with for money.

It is true that Elizabeth observes that she and Charlotte can never be as close as they once were. But it's not that Elizabeth thinks Charlotte is greedy or arrogant or a bad person! It's that Elizabeth has realized they're actually a lot more different than she thought they were.

At the beginning of the book, Elizabeth's basic understanding of the world is that her perceptions of people are always right, and her understandings of situations are always correct, and that of course she knows better than everyone else. She's a sheltered 20 year old who is very intelligent, and like many smart 20 year olds hasn't really figured out that other people can see things differently, and have different needs and wants, without being bad or stupid. A lot of the book is about Elizabeth learning that. Charlotte is a good person and very intelligent, and Elizabeth likes her. Therefore, at the beginning of the book Elizabeth assumes that Charlotte must agree with Elizabeth on all fundamental matters because Elizabeth's perception of all people and situations is Right.

Prior to Charlotte's engagement, they have conversations where Charlotte quite plainly says that she disagrees with Elizabeth very fundamentally about marriage and courtship, and Elizabeth brushes it off and assumes she doesn't really mean it. After Charlotte's marriage, Elizabeth has to grapple with the fact that Charlotte was being honest with her the whole time, Elizabeth just wasn't listening because she didn't want to hear it. This doesn't mean that Charlotte is bad or greedy! It just means that she and Elizabeth are different. And Elizabeth has, up until this point, refused to see it.

One of the interesting things about the book, structurally, is that her reassessment of Charlotte--the realization that she misunderstood her friend in a lot of ways--happens at roughly the same time as her reassessment of Darcy. She has thought worse of Darcy than he deserved; she has thought she and Charlotte were more alike than they actually are. While she first realizes that she and Charlotte are different when the engagement is announced, she doesn't really get to see and understand the difference until she's staying with her for a couple of months in Hunsford. Seeing her with Mr. Collins and Lady Catherine and her own household, Elizabeth learns how Charlotte can be content with her life (even if it's not one Elizabeth could stand), and thus why she thinks the way she does. And realizes it's not wrong, just different. And then, towards the end of her stay, Darcy proposes and writes the letter and she learns she was wrong about him, too.

Does he end up with the wife he probably dreamed of? Well, no. He'd hoped for someone prettier. But he does end up with a sensible, amiable woman who encourages him to enjoy life in ways that are suitable to his station (outdoor walks! tending his garden!) and who probably makes an excellent parson's wife, specifically. She's likely to be thrifty and careful; she knows how to manage a small household well; part of her duties are to circulate among the poor and ill of the parish bringing small comforts such as food or herbal remedies she makes herself, or books. Charlotte is a calm and steady person not given to excess at all; she has excellent manners and can comport herself as well with Lady Catherine as with anyone in the parish. She's likely to make him appear, to his parishioners, as if he himself is more steady and sensible than he is, because he'll be associated with her and her personality.

Then, after he inherits the Bennet estate, she has her own deep social connections. Her father or brother will be one of the foremost people in the area (despite his small fortune); he will have built-in acquaintances and familial connections all over the area through his wife. (For her, being able to eventually move home was probably a big bonus of marrying him; for him it's also a bonus, though. As good as if he'd married Elizabeth? Probably not. But better than any other realistic option.)

Warnings: rape/non con, slavery, sex slavery, sacrifices, violence, torture, abuse, victim blaming and in universe racism including antisemitism, eugenics.

Ships: mairon/celeborn/galadriel, isildur x oc, elendil/miriel/gil-galad, celebrian/elrond, sauron/galadriel/elrond/celeborn/celebrimbor/finrod (noncon/one sided), adar/cirdan, arondir/brownyn and background finrod/luthien/beren.

Summary: In this universe Mairon, Maia of Aule is not seduced by Morgoth but Morgoth is still very much in love with him. So in love that he is taken by him but there is still a Sauron, once named Curumo by the elves. Thousands of years later in Rhûn a silver haired elf and his infant daughter find Mairon and in their slavery, a new family is found amongst horror and loss

Elsewhere, Curumo finds a new form in the wreckage of the War of Wrath and finds himself in love with more than one. He will stop at nothing to keep them safe. No matter what.

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The worst part of Erik's creepy thoughts about Celebrimbor is how you can see a reflection of how certain people are going to react. "Of course the descendant of Feanor would have tempted Sauron". Ugh. The best part about the founding of Rivendell is that all those people are banned entry.

I'm glad that Celebrimbor can craft a little bit again. I imagine that he has bouts where he can make things, interspersed with long periods where even stepping foot in a forge makes him panic.

In some ways, Erik kind of reminds me of Mrs. Norris from Mansfield Park. Like her, he is officious and uses propriety as an excuse to be controlling.

Poor Bjorn! The thing is, he is soft, and that's lovely. We know that Freyja is going to be big mad about people hurting her baby brother. But after thinking about it, I think Astrid might be the one to fly off the handle upon initial discovery. (I think the adults might want to protect Freyja from the knowledge).

I can completely see her simply clocking Erik with a right hook if she walked in on this training session. Celebrian wisely picks up Bjorn and walks away to let Astrid get her aggression out. She's already coming up with excuses in her head that they can give to Sauron.

Aww! Mairon cuddling Bjorn and giving him back his toys was so cute. I love it!

Yesss!!! Adar is reading Sauron for filth, and I am SO here for it!

I think there was a time when Adar had a certain amount of sentimentality about the name that Sauron gave him. Some subconscious part of him was uncomfortable, but that was buried pretty deep. Over the years, the discomfort grew until eventually, the betrayals just piled up too high to ignore, and it morphed into something that inspired grief and shame.

Adar getting to a point where he can be genuine as he expresses indifference is such a victory. I can't tell you how much I loved the way he looked at Sauron and acknowledged Curumo was someone that he loved, but also that he doesn't feel anything for him anymore.

He's absolutely right that Curumo might dismiss his claims on a surface level, but that somewhere deep down, he is going to internalize this moment. Because I think that even when things were at their worst, Curumo always believed that he would have Adar. Suddenly being stripped of that assurance is probably terrifying for Sauron.

The Galadriel scenes were heartwrenching. Watching her try to reconcile the memories of the child she remembers. That horrible realization that she doesn't know how to be a mother to the woman that Celebrian grew into during their separation. She isn't even sure if she has the right to try, but at the same time, she wants to connect to her so badly!

To have her family back is like this ultimate fantasy come true, except that it's all distorted, because she doesn't quite know how to fit into the family unit that they have become.

It was such a touching moment when Mairon was the first to realize all the uncertainties that Galadriel was struggling with and provide comfort. How he was the one to open the door, welcome her inside, and tell her that it wasn't her fault.

It's a perfect bookend to the next scene where Galadriel, Celeborn, and Mairon have grown so comfortable with each other. Obviously, things aren't perfect because of where they are and the circumstances. But there's affection and tenderness. There are plans for the future. Which is honestly a huge step, Even if they feel like pipe dreams to them at the moment.

Erik was partly a (not entirely conscious) consequence of thinking about a person who is an absolute fanatic true believer but also…doesn’t believe. Or believes in the version of their deity that best serves them (I’m not even sure he’s met Sauron before. I mean he will and he will not enjoy it but). And partly that’s because it has been thousands of years of absence!

And yes. Not sorry you have been banned from Rivendell because your vibes suck enjoy getting muddy and cold (honestly the land around Rivendell would do this for free) - Olorin will absolutely delight in doing this later.

Astrid would Kill Erik if she had seen this (she might still stab him on the way out honestly) and she would be correct (I have people lining up to kill Erik - @nocompromise-noregrets has an OC who really wants to for example) and YES. Bjorn is a little softie who gets upset about plants needing to be pruned sometimes (he will not be hearing the end of that one from his sister).

Galadriel really really did break my heart there. Because she absolutely does not think she has any right but if her daughter wants her there she will be there (and OW). Also I will be drawing this out but the way she and Celeborn have to learn each other all over again (and the way that in a horrible way the captivity makes it easier because they understand each others trauma far more if that makes any sense?) and it just worked for Mairon to be the bridge there. Because they bond over their mutual Celebrian and Celeborn love and then…(though Mairon absolutely did take one look at Galadriel and went ‘….oh FUCK I want to marry her too’)

Armand (Assad Zaman) / Heathcliff

a. i spent 16 years in orthodox day school, i guarantee i’ve learned a fuck ton of gemara.

“Ascending Jacob's Ladder: Jewish Views of Angels, Demons, and Evil Spirits” by Rabbi Ronald Isaacs

“A Treasury of Jewish Folklore” by Nathan Ausubel

“Divination, Magic, and Healing: The Book of Jewish Folklore” by Rabbi Ronald Isaacs

“Elijah’s Violin & Other Jewish Fairy Tales” by Howard Schwartz

“Gabriel’s Palace: Jewish Mystical Tales” by Howard Schwartz

“Golem: Jewish Magical and Mystical Traditions on the Artificial Anthropoid” by Moshe Idel

“Jewish Magic and Superstition: A Study in Folk Religion” by Rabbi Joshua Trachtenberg

“Magic, Mysticism, and Hasidism: The Supernatural in Jewish Thought” by Gedalyah Nigal

“Mimekor Yisrael: Selected Jewish Classical Folktales” by Micha Berdyczewski

“Miriam's Tambourine: Jewish Folktales from Around the World” by Howard Schwartz

“Next Year in Jerusalem: 3000 Years of Jewish Stories” by Howard Schwartz

“Ritual Medical Lore of Sephardic Women: Sweetening the Spirits, Healing the Sick” by Isaac Lévy and Rosemary Lévy Zumwalt

“The Bride Who Argued With G-d: Tales From the Trea­sury of Jew­ish Folklore” by Hava Ben-Zvi

“The Diamond Tree: Jewish Tales from Around the World” by Howard Schwartz

“The Encyclopedia of Jewish Myth, Magic & Mysticism” by Rabbi Geoffrey W. Dennis

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